What do you think is the worlds best military?

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]Ummm, I think that the British Navy is the worlds largest navy......TheWalrusBeast

Your logic impresses me....

Ya and the British Navy isn't the largest, the US navy takes top place with the Russians at a distant second.

#1West Coast Navy - US

#2East Coast Navy - US

[QUOTE="crusher2002000"]

u honesty don't think if the us invaded china that china would not take everyone available and try to stop it? this is china u do what ur told

LJS9502_basic

And you're doing one of two things...training or sending untrained soldiers into combat. Either way...doesn't matter. In addition, we'd have allies if it came to it.

You just worded my thoughts.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Thats not true. Where did you get these statistics?

NicktehImperial

the cia factbook

Manpower available for military service:
males age 18-49: 342,956,265
females age 18-49: 324,701,244 (2005 est.)

That's the population available...that's not the actual military.

Here you can...Read

u honesty don't think if the us invaded china that china would not take everyone available and try to stop it? this is china u do what ur told

Well, just ask around GS, I'm sure these brave young men are ready to be drafted.....

[QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]Ummm, I think that the British Navy is the worlds largest navy......EboyLOL

Your logic impresses me....

Ya and the British Navy isn't the largest, the US navy takes top place with the Russians at a distant second.

#1West Coast Navy - US

#2East Coast Navy - US

Yeah, people shouldn't underestimate the US Navy, theres a reason there hasn't been a Naval battle since double u double u too....

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]Ummm, I think that the British Navy is the worlds largest navy......NicktehImperial

Your logic impresses me....

Ya and the British Navy isn't the largest, the US navy takes top place with the Russians at a distant second.

#1West Coast Navy - US

#2East Coast Navy - US

Yeah, people shouldn't underestimate the US Navy, theres a reason there hasn't been a Naval battle since double u double u too....

Well there has plenty of times (ex-Falkland Island 1982), just not with the US Navy.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]Ummm, I think that the British Navy is the worlds largest navy......TheWalrusBeast

Your logic impresses me....

Ya and the British Navy isn't the largest, the US navy takes top place with the Russians at a distant second.

#1West Coast Navy - US

#2East Coast Navy - US

Yeah, people shouldn't underestimate the US Navy, theres a reason there hasn't been a Naval battle since double u double u too....

Well there has plenty of times (ex-Falkland Island 1982), just not with the US Navy.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Thats not true. Where did you get these statistics?

DivergeUnify

the cia factbook

Manpower available for military service:
males age 18-49: 342,956,265
females age 18-49: 324,701,244 (2005 est.)

That's the population available...that's not the actual military.

Here you can...Read

u honesty don't think if the us invaded china that china would not take everyone available and try to stop it? this is china u do what ur told

Well, just ask around GS, I'm sure these brave young men are ready to be drafted.....

You could refuse, and go off to jail, but then you'd get raped in prison, a bit worse then war actually.

You could move to Canada or something, but if to many people do that, our frosty friends up north will have to deal with tons of poor peopl on their streets. They'd be kicked out of Canada.

Or you could hide in the wilderness, a good choice for soe people, for most, no....

With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
DivergeUnify

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Thats not true. Where did you get these statistics?

NicktehImperial

the cia factbook

Manpower available for military service:
males age 18-49: 342,956,265
females age 18-49: 324,701,244 (2005 est.)

That's the population available...that's not the actual military.

Here you can...Read

u honesty don't think if the us invaded china that china would not take everyone available and try to stop it? this is china u do what ur told

Well, just ask around GS, I'm sure these brave young men are ready to be drafted.....

You could refuse, and go off to jail, but then you'd get raped in prison, a bit worse then war actually.

You could move to Canada or something, but if to many people do that, our frosty friends up north will have to deal with tons of poor peopl on their streets. They'd be kicked out of Canada.

Or you could hide in the wilderness, a good choice for soe people, for most, no....

are you saying rapists are national service deserters?

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
EboyLOL

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Thats not true. Where did you get these statistics?

my_name_is_ron

the cia factbook

Manpower available for military service:
males age 18-49: 342,956,265
females age 18-49: 324,701,244 (2005 est.)

That's the population available...that's not the actual military.

Here you can...Read

u honesty don't think if the us invaded china that china would not take everyone available and try to stop it? this is china u do what ur told

Well, just ask around GS, I'm sure these brave young men are ready to be drafted.....

You could refuse, and go off to jail, but then you'd get raped in prison, a bit worse then war actually.

You could move to Canada or something, but if to many people do that, our frosty friends up north will have to deal with tons of poor peopl on their streets. They'd be kicked out of Canada.

Or you could hide in the wilderness, a good choice for soe people, for most, no....

are you saying rapists are national service deserters?

People get raped in prison.

You were probobly taught of the horrors of war, but the horrors of prison, thats a story for another time.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
EboyLOL

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Thats not true. Where did you get these statistics?

NicktehImperial

the cia factbook

Manpower available for military service:
males age 18-49: 342,956,265
females age 18-49: 324,701,244 (2005 est.)

That's the population available...that's not the actual military.

Here you can...Read

u honesty don't think if the us invaded china that china would not take everyone available and try to stop it? this is china u do what ur told

Well, just ask around GS, I'm sure these brave young men are ready to be drafted.....

You could refuse, and go off to jail, but then you'd get raped in prison, a bit worse then war actually.

You could move to Canada or something, but if to many people do that, our frosty friends up north will have to deal with tons of poor peopl on their streets. They'd be kicked out of Canada.

Or you could hide in the wilderness, a good choice for soe people, for most, no....

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
NicktehImperial

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
EboyLOL

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

why not?

The best military is the one that never has to fight.foxhound_fox

Its probobly better off we continue to do that though. My dad was in the MArines and was in Mogadishu rescuing American and European hostages, and he said they were supposed to kill any Somalians who got in their way. Sometimes violence must be used to save others.

The best military is the one that never has to fight.foxhound_fox

yeah but we are talking combat wise...

Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:EboyLOL

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

The best military is the one that never has to fight.foxhound_fox

That's not true.....

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
my_name_is_ron

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

why not?

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

The light is starting to come to me and I'm thinking that if we got in a war with China( assuming it was like pre-iraq when we could support a fresh war), we would loose because of their sheer numbers ASSUMING that it was a war on their land.

I'm talking on the infantry front though. I know for a fact that our airforce would be unparalleled. My dad said on the news a couple days ago, US and Israel did an airstrike over Kuwait and took out their AA system which was supposed to be the best in the world and we didn't loose a single jet. Thats pretty good...

NicktehImperial

In my personel opinion. China would lose, because it would just be more soldiers for our guys to kill.

In fact, it would almost be like the perfect war for the US and its allies....

Warmongering Americans :roll: there should be no more war just peace

no matter what no one will say the USA because like half of the people on this site are british. personally, USA or China is the best. USA = the best quality. China = more people with average technology so it's a toss up.Dopemonk736

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:LJS9502_basic

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

... ****

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:LJS9502_basic

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

They'll put your ass in prison then! If Eboy claimed gay then he'd go to prison as a RAPE QUEEN!

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
EboyLOL

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

why not?

I thought a few of them were in Iraq and there were stories about other soldiers wanting them to leave(And a few of them were actually murdered.). I thought they could join, but were advised not to because of the idiots already there.

Or have they really banned it? How can anyone be that scared of diversity? :|

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
EboyLOL

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

why not?

no you silly! it's because clearly in a war situation a gay soldier would be eyeing you up rather than the enemy! because of course any gay man wants to have sex with any straight man... dur...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:NicktehImperial

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

They'll put your ass in prison then! If Eboy claimed gay then he'd go to prison as a RAPE QUEEN!

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
fatzombiepigeon

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

why not?

I thought a few of them were in Iraq and there were stories about other soldiers wanting them to leave. I thought they could join, but were advised not to because of the idiots already there.

Or have they really banned it? How can anyone be that scared of diversity? :|

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]no matter what no one will say the USA because like half of the people on this site are british. personally, USA or China is the best. USA = the best quality. China = more people with average technology so it's a toss up.DivergeUnify

It was very different back then. I agree somewhat, but it depends on where the battle takes place. If it's in the middle of a big insect infested trap ridden bog, then yeah, we lose. But if it's in a small chinese village with little surrounding jungle, our updated technology might give us an advantage. I wouldn't know though, since I'm not a general. Or in the military yet.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
fatzombiepigeon

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

why not?

I thought a few of them were in Iraq and there were stories about other soldiers wanting them to leave(And a few of them were actually murdered.). I thought they could join, but were advised not to because of the idiots already there.

Or have they really banned it? How can anyone be that scared of diversity? :|

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="AKS_74U"]Also, The Russians dont have top of the line equipment..Because Ukrainians use the same weapons as them the Ukrainian army is like the Russian army but ALOT smaller (Obviously)..And belive me Russian troops know how to fight, You should see what the Russian soldiers have to go through in training...They know how to fight..Actual hand to hand combatAKS_74U

Hand to hand combat? Has there been a war within the last 300 years where hand to hand combat played a significant role?

I mean like martial arts.Like kicking people in the heads n stuff lol

to hell with our air force, navy, and nuclear weapons. russian soldiers can kick people in the head...n stuff. they win.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:EboyLOL

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

They'll put your ass in prison then! If Eboy claimed gay then he'd go to prison as a RAPE QUEEN!

no they would put you in prison for avoiding the draft, and in that case, they wouldn't take your word for it if you were homosexual.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]no matter what no one will say the USA because like half of the people on this site are british. personally, USA or China is the best. USA = the best quality. China = more people with average technology so it's a toss up.fatzombiepigeon

It was very different back then. I agree somewhat, but it depends on where the battle takes place. If it's in the middle of a big insect infested trap ridden bog, then yeah, we lose. But if it's in a small chinese village with little surrounding jungle, our updated technology might give us an advantage. I wouldn't know though, since I'm not a general. Or in the military yet.

[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] With a draft, you wouldn't have a choice.
DivergeUnify

Orly? You can go to prison and be the rape queen!

why not?

I thought a few of them were in Iraq and there were stories about other soldiers wanting them to leave(And a few of them were actually murdered.). I thought they could join, but were advised not to because of the idiots already there.

Or have they really banned it? How can anyone be that scared of diversity? :|

That's what I thought.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:Dopemonk736

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

They'll put your ass in prison then! If Eboy claimed gay then he'd go to prison as a RAPE QUEEN!

no they would put you in prison for avoiding the draft, and in that case, they wouldn't take your word for it if you were homosexual.

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:EboyLOL

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

They'll put your ass in prison then! If Eboy claimed gay then he'd go to prison as a RAPE QUEEN!

no they would put you in prison for avoiding the draft, and in that case, they wouldn't take your word for it if you were homosexual.

which is avoiding/dodging the draft. you are creating an excuse to avoid the draft.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

The light is starting to come to me and I'm thinking that if we got in a war with China( assuming it was like pre-iraq when we could support a fresh war), we would loose because of their sheer numbers ASSUMING that it was a war on their land.

I'm talking on the infantry front though. I know for a fact that our airforce would be unparalleled. My dad said on the news a couple days ago, US and Israel did an airstrike over Kuwait and took out their AA system which was supposed to be the best in the world and we didn't loose a single jet. Thats pretty good...

TheWalrusBeast

In my personel opinion. China would lose, because it would just be more soldiers for our guys to kill.

In fact, it would almost be like the perfect war for the US and its allies....

You don't understand, the Chinese probably aren't horrible like the terrorists in Iraq. they're probably average, and an average skill force with TONS of men can over run EXCELLENT men with smaller numbers in comparison.

How about when we bomb them to oblivion, close in on em with our legions of carriers, then send elite Marines, Rangers, Airborne ETC into their country,our guys are designed for that....

China's Second Artillery Corps has over 1000 ballestic missiles and 70% of them can be nuclear tipped and thus China CAN retaliate. You will need a lot more than just bombs to defeat China, the country is huge. If America couldn't bomb Vietnam to submission, how can it bomb China which is like 30 times the size.

You forget that the US is tied for 3rd with China in size. Raw numbers mean little in modern warfare, where infentry is as reliant on tanks as they are on infentry. If the US got a stable foot hold in China and a solid supply chain running it would steam roll anything short of an equal quality force. We were outnumbered in Iraq tank for tank and still decimated them with almost no heavy armor losses.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Dopemonk736"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:Dopemonk736

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

They'll put your ass in prison then! If Eboy claimed gay then he'd go to prison as a RAPE QUEEN!

no they would put you in prison for avoiding the draft, and in that case, they wouldn't take your word for it if you were homosexual.

which is avoiding/dodging the draft. you are creating an excuse to avoid the draft.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Dopemonk736"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Nick, they don't let homosexuals into the army. Of course, you knew that :roll:Dopemonk736

They wouldn't ask you....and in the scenario you're talking about...they don't take your word for it.;)

They'll put your ass in prison then! If Eboy claimed gay then he'd go to prison as a RAPE QUEEN!

no they would put you in prison for avoiding the draft, and in that case, they wouldn't take your word for it if you were homosexual.

which is avoiding/dodging the draft. you are creating an excuse to avoid the draft.

yes but you can;t be thrown in prison for not joining the army because the army themselves object to your lifestyle

Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.EboyLOL

Front line....:D

[QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

The light is starting to come to me and I'm thinking that if we got in a war with China( assuming it was like pre-iraq when we could support a fresh war), we would loose because of their sheer numbers ASSUMING that it was a war on their land.

I'm talking on the infantry front though. I know for a fact that our airforce would be unparalleled. My dad said on the news a couple days ago, US and Israel did an airstrike over Kuwait and took out their AA system which was supposed to be the best in the world and we didn't loose a single jet. Thats pretty good...

Guiltfeeder566

In my personel opinion. China would lose, because it would just be more soldiers for our guys to kill.

In fact, it would almost be like the perfect war for the US and its allies....

You don't understand, the Chinese probably aren't horrible like the terrorists in Iraq. they're probably average, and an average skill force with TONS of men can over run EXCELLENT men with smaller numbers in comparison.

How about when we bomb them to oblivion, close in on em with our legions of carriers, then send elite Marines, Rangers, Airborne ETC into their country,our guys are designed for that....

China's Second Artillery Corps has over 1000 ballestic missiles and 70% of them can be nuclear tipped and thus China CAN retaliate. You will need a lot more than just bombs to defeat China, the country is huge. If America couldn't bomb Vietnam to submission, how can it bomb China which is like 30 times the size.

You forget that the US is tied for 3rd with China in size. Raw numbers mean little in modern warfare, where infentry is as reliant on tanks as they are on infentry. If the US got a stable foot hold in China and a solid supply chain running it would steam roll anything short of an equal quality force. We were outnumbered in Iraq tank for tank and still decimated them with almost no heavy armor losses.

Iraq's terrain was basically asking for massive aerial bombardment by F-15's over and over again. The Iraqi Airforce had like 50 planes and their ground force was already defeated the second American bombers began bombing. The Iraqi forces had no AWAC, spying satellites, or even effective AA systems.

How will America gain a stable foothold? I don't see any country bordering China in which America can amass a huge army thus the only way to land in China is via an amphibious assualt which is extremely hard to pull off considering China has 2/3 of its total forces concentrated in the east.

Nick, you do an outstanding job displaying your lack of knowledge of all things military each time you post.towel_

What did I say so stupid?

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.LJS9502_basic

Front line....:D

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.EboyLOL

Front line....:D

:lol: In a draft you get basic quick and off you're shipped.