What do you think is the worlds best military?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.EboyLOL

Front line....:D

Yu can sweep the floors on a base, while everyone else is kicking ass! YAY!!!!

USA- Most advanced. A jet can shoot a target halfway across the country and still hit it. Tanks have computer controlled aiming that measures drop, speed, etc so the tank almost never misses. Infantry have all sorts of cool gadgets.

China- Biggest numbers. For every US soldier, there is 3 Chinese soldiers. Who needs technology when you can just overwhelm the enemy?

Russia- Cheap, fast andreliable. A Russian mig cost nowhere as much as a USA F-18. Russia can produce 10 missiles in an instant. Although Russia can't stand alone, army isn't big enough.Russia would be a great friend for producing weaponry.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.NicktehImperial

Front line....:D

Yu can sweep the floors on a base, while everyone else is kicking ass! YAY!!!!

Or go to prison and be a RAPE QUEEN!!!!

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.NicktehImperial

Front line....:D

Yu can sweep the floors on a base, while everyone else is kicking ass! YAY!!!!

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.LJS9502_basic

Front line....:D

:lol: In a draft you get basic quick and off you're shipped.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.Bourbons3

Front line....:D

Yu can sweep the floors on a base, while everyone else is kicking ass! YAY!!!!

Or getting blown up! Or being a RAPE QUEEN!!!

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"]Not really... like you and LJS said (which I only just learned), they wouldn't believe me if I was gay and ship me off to boot camp, and then God knows where.NicktehImperial

Front line....:D

Yu can sweep the floors on a base, while everyone else is kicking ass! YAY!!!!

Or go to prison and be a RAPE QUEEN!!!!

What's basic training,like a month or so? And where did you serve? EboyLOL

Nine weeks I believe.....and Fort Bragg.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="crusher2002000"]

u honesty don't think if the us invaded china that china would not take everyone available and try to stop it? this is china u do what ur told

NicktehImperial

And you're doing one of two things...training or sending untrained soldiers into combat. Either way...doesn't matter. In addition, we'd have allies if it came to it.

You just worded my thoughts.

Depends, if China attacks first then yes if US attacks first then they probably have most of the world against them

[QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

The light is starting to come to me and I'm thinking that if we got in a war with China( assuming it was like pre-iraq when we could support a fresh war), we would loose because of their sheer numbers ASSUMING that it was a war on their land.

I'm talking on the infantry front though. I know for a fact that our airforce would be unparalleled. My dad said on the news a couple days ago, US and Israel did an airstrike over Kuwait and took out their AA system which was supposed to be the best in the world and we didn't loose a single jet. Thats pretty good...

Guiltfeeder566

In my personel opinion. China would lose, because it would just be more soldiers for our guys to kill.

In fact, it would almost be like the perfect war for the US and its allies....

You don't understand, the Chinese probably aren't horrible like the terrorists in Iraq. they're probably average, and an average skill force with TONS of men can over run EXCELLENT men with smaller numbers in comparison.

How about when we bomb them to oblivion, close in on em with our legions of carriers, then send elite Marines, Rangers, Airborne ETC into their country,our guys are designed for that....

China's Second Artillery Corps has over 1000 ballestic missiles and 70% of them can be nuclear tipped and thus China CAN retaliate. You will need a lot more than just bombs to defeat China, the country is huge. If America couldn't bomb Vietnam to submission, how can it bomb China which is like 30 times the size.

You forget that the US is tied for 3rd with China in size. Raw numbers mean little in modern warfare, where infentry is as reliant on tanks as they are on infentry. If the US got a stable foot hold in China and a solid supply chain running it would steam roll anything short of an equal quality force. We were outnumbered in Iraq tank for tank and still decimated them with almost no heavy armor losses.

Ah then the Chinese would use guerilla tactics which would OWN the Americans

Their really is no other answer to this question than the US military. How many other countries in the world sport god damn FLEETS of carriersin peace time and maintain more than 6% GDP-to-military spending at all times? It's not even a question. CaptHawkeye

My dad was in the MArines and said they have machine guns that shoot grenades.

[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

The light is starting to come to me and I'm thinking that if we got in a war with China( assuming it was like pre-iraq when we could support a fresh war), we would loose because of their sheer numbers ASSUMING that it was a war on their land.

I'm talking on the infantry front though. I know for a fact that our airforce would be unparalleled. My dad said on the news a couple days ago, US and Israel did an airstrike over Kuwait and took out their AA system which was supposed to be the best in the world and we didn't loose a single jet. Thats pretty good...

hojobojo

In my personel opinion. China would lose, because it would just be more soldiers for our guys to kill.

In fact, it would almost be like the perfect war for the US and its allies....

You don't understand, the Chinese probably aren't horrible like the terrorists in Iraq. they're probably average, and an average skill force with TONS of men can over run EXCELLENT men with smaller numbers in comparison.

How about when we bomb them to oblivion, close in on em with our legions of carriers, then send elite Marines, Rangers, Airborne ETC into their country,our guys are designed for that....

China's Second Artillery Corps has over 1000 ballestic missiles and 70% of them can be nuclear tipped and thus China CAN retaliate. You will need a lot more than just bombs to defeat China, the country is huge. If America couldn't bomb Vietnam to submission, how can it bomb China which is like 30 times the size.

You forget that the US is tied for 3rd with China in size. Raw numbers mean little in modern warfare, where infentry is as reliant on tanks as they are on infentry. If the US got a stable foot hold in China and a solid supply chain running it would steam roll anything short of an equal quality force. We were outnumbered in Iraq tank for tank and still decimated them with almost no heavy armor losses.

Ah then the Chinese would use guerilla tactics which would OWN the Americans

After MANY MORE of them died....

I think antiamericanism is brewing....

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]Their really is no other answer to this question than the US military. How many other countries in the world sport god damn FLEETS of carriersin peace time and maintain more than 6% GDP-to-military spending at all times? It's not even a question. NicktehImperial

My dad was in the MArines and said they have machine guns that shoot grenades.

Not as important, since an automatic Grenade Launcher is more relevant to tactics rather than strategy. Though note worthy indeed.

[QUOTE="hojobojo"][QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

The light is starting to come to me and I'm thinking that if we got in a war with China( assuming it was like pre-iraq when we could support a fresh war), we would loose because of their sheer numbers ASSUMING that it was a war on their land.

I'm talking on the infantry front though. I know for a fact that our airforce would be unparalleled. My dad said on the news a couple days ago, US and Israel did an airstrike over Kuwait and took out their AA system which was supposed to be the best in the world and we didn't loose a single jet. Thats pretty good...

NicktehImperial

In my personel opinion. China would lose, because it would just be more soldiers for our guys to kill.

In fact, it would almost be like the perfect war for the US and its allies....

You don't understand, the Chinese probably aren't horrible like the terrorists in Iraq. they're probably average, and an average skill force with TONS of men can over run EXCELLENT men with smaller numbers in comparison.

How about when we bomb them to oblivion, close in on em with our legions of carriers, then send elite Marines, Rangers, Airborne ETC into their country,our guys are designed for that....

China's Second Artillery Corps has over 1000 ballestic missiles and 70% of them can be nuclear tipped and thus China CAN retaliate. You will need a lot more than just bombs to defeat China, the country is huge. If America couldn't bomb Vietnam to submission, how can it bomb China which is like 30 times the size.

You forget that the US is tied for 3rd with China in size. Raw numbers mean little in modern warfare, where infentry is as reliant on tanks as they are on infentry. If the US got a stable foot hold in China and a solid supply chain running it would steam roll anything short of an equal quality force. We were outnumbered in Iraq tank for tank and still decimated them with almost no heavy armor losses.

Ah then the Chinese would use guerilla tactics which would OWN the Americans

After MANY MORE of them died....

You forget id some foreign country invaded China every CHinese person would fight them and guess what have have over a billion population and a huge country to hide in.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"] What's basic training,like a month or so? And where did you serve? LJS9502_basic

Nine weeks I believe.....and Fort Bragg.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="hojobojo"][QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

The light is starting to come to me and I'm thinking that if we got in a war with China( assuming it was like pre-iraq when we could support a fresh war), we would loose because of their sheer numbers ASSUMING that it was a war on their land.

I'm talking on the infantry front though. I know for a fact that our airforce would be unparalleled. My dad said on the news a couple days ago, US and Israel did an airstrike over Kuwait and took out their AA system which was supposed to be the best in the world and we didn't loose a single jet. Thats pretty good...

hojobojo

In my personel opinion. China would lose, because it would just be more soldiers for our guys to kill.

In fact, it would almost be like the perfect war for the US and its allies....

You don't understand, the Chinese probably aren't horrible like the terrorists in Iraq. they're probably average, and an average skill force with TONS of men can over run EXCELLENT men with smaller numbers in comparison.

How about when we bomb them to oblivion, close in on em with our legions of carriers, then send elite Marines, Rangers, Airborne ETC into their country,our guys are designed for that....

China's Second Artillery Corps has over 1000 ballestic missiles and 70% of them can be nuclear tipped and thus China CAN retaliate. You will need a lot more than just bombs to defeat China, the country is huge. If America couldn't bomb Vietnam to submission, how can it bomb China which is like 30 times the size.

You forget that the US is tied for 3rd with China in size. Raw numbers mean little in modern warfare, where infentry is as reliant on tanks as they are on infentry. If the US got a stable foot hold in China and a solid supply chain running it would steam roll anything short of an equal quality force. We were outnumbered in Iraq tank for tank and still decimated them with almost no heavy armor losses.

Ah then the Chinese would use guerilla tactics which would OWN the Americans

After MANY MORE of them died....

You forget id some foreign country invaded China every CHinese person would fight them and guess what have have over a billion population and a huge country to hide in.

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

I think antiamericanism is brewing....

NicktehImperial

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]Their really is no other answer to this question than the US military. How many other countries in the world sport god damn FLEETS of carriersin peace time and maintain more than 6% GDP-to-military spending at all times? It's not even a question. NicktehImperial

My dad was in the MArines and said they have machine guns that shoot grenades.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

I think antiamericanism is brewing....

EboyLOL

It's practically everywhere these days

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"] What's basic training,like a month or so? And where did you serve? EboyLOL

Nine weeks I believe.....and Fort Bragg.

[QUOTE="hojobojo"][QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

The light is starting to come to me and I'm thinking that if we got in a war with China( assuming it was like pre-iraq when we could support a fresh war), we would loose because of their sheer numbers ASSUMING that it was a war on their land.

I'm talking on the infantry front though. I know for a fact that our airforce would be unparalleled. My dad said on the news a couple days ago, US and Israel did an airstrike over Kuwait and took out their AA system which was supposed to be the best in the world and we didn't loose a single jet. Thats pretty good...

NicktehImperial

In my personel opinion. China would lose, because it would just be more soldiers for our guys to kill.

In fact, it would almost be like the perfect war for the US and its allies....

You don't understand, the Chinese probably aren't horrible like the terrorists in Iraq. they're probably average, and an average skill force with TONS of men can over run EXCELLENT men with smaller numbers in comparison.

How about when we bomb them to oblivion, close in on em with our legions of carriers, then send elite Marines, Rangers, Airborne ETC into their country,our guys are designed for that....

China's Second Artillery Corps has over 1000 ballestic missiles and 70% of them can be nuclear tipped and thus China CAN retaliate. You will need a lot more than just bombs to defeat China, the country is huge. If America couldn't bomb Vietnam to submission, how can it bomb China which is like 30 times the size.

You forget that the US is tied for 3rd with China in size. Raw numbers mean little in modern warfare, where infentry is as reliant on tanks as they are on infentry. If the US got a stable foot hold in China and a solid supply chain running it would steam roll anything short of an equal quality force. We were outnumbered in Iraq tank for tank and still decimated them with almost no heavy armor losses.

Ah then the Chinese would use guerilla tactics which would OWN the Americans

After MANY MORE of them died....

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. If your enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both arms tied behind their back.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]Their really is no other answer to this question than the US military. How many other countries in the world sport god damn FLEETS of carriersin peace time and maintain more than 6% GDP-to-military spending at all times? It's not even a question. CaptHawkeye

My dad was in the MArines and said they have machine guns that shoot grenades.

Not as important, since an automatic Grenade Launcher is more relevant to tactics rather than strategy. Though note worthy indeed.

I think its called a Mark 19.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"] What's basic training,like a month or so? And where did you serve? EboyLOL

Nine weeks I believe.....and Fort Bragg.

During a major war with a draft...it would undoubtedly be shorter...depending on how quickly they needed troops. I was Military Intelligence.....and as such...that is what I did.

we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. Ifyour enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both armstied behind their back.

CaptHawkeye

The Romans never had problems ith insurgencies, but they ****ing nailed people to the cross and set them on fire... So harsherness=no insurgencies.

If the US was harch though, the world would turn on us...

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"] What's basic training,like a month or so? And where did you serve? LJS9502_basic

Nine weeks I believe.....and Fort Bragg.

During a major war with a draft...it would undoubtedly be shorter...depending on how quickly they needed troops. I was Military Intelligence.....and as such...that is what I did.

I thought you were a Curist?

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. Ifyour enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both armstied behind their back.

NicktehImperial

The Romans never had problems ith insurgencies, but they ****ing nailed people to the cross and set them on fire... So harsherness=no insurgencies.

If the US was harch though, the world would turn on us...

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. Ifyour enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both armstied behind their back.

mig_killer2

The Romans never had problems ith insurgencies, but they ****ing nailed people to the cross and set them on fire... So harsherness=no insurgencies.

If the US was harch though, the world would turn on us...

Sorry, don't let my obsession with the Romans ruin a good military disscussion.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. Ifyour enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both armstied behind their back.

NicktehImperial

The Romans never had problems ith insurgencies, but they ****ing nailed people to the cross and set them on fire... So harsherness=no insurgencies.

If the US was harch though, the world would turn on us...

Sorry, don't let my obsession with the Romans ruin a good military disscussion.

The US military is by far the most powerful on Earth. Nothing else even comes close. The size of it's Navy and Air capabilities is unmatched, along with one of the largest and best trained army's as well.

we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. If your enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both arms tied behind their back.

CaptHawkeye

We were talking about what would happen if US and China got into a war

I think the U.S. has the best military.Travo_basic

Post count +1?

I would say Russia is the first, followed by the brits and the US. Sure looking statistically you might disagree. But look at it this way, russian military machine is more efficient, reliable, and much cheaper. a Mig-29 is still a better plane than the F-15, F-16 and F18, and costs 2x less to produce, same goes to the AK-74. Then Russia has more military history than the US, The US is too young to have a comparable military history to Europe. Europe has long standing traditions and proven standards for its generals. Than the Russians aren't afraid to get dirty, I mean look at Iraq vs Afganistan, The Russians didn't care a lot about civilians, if they got info that there were enemies hiding in a village they would just bomb it. This thread is really pro American, and it is clearly visible that the American propaganda machine is doing its job pretty well. muscleserge

WTF?

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. If your enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both arms tied behind their back.

hojobojo

We were talking about what would happen if US and China got into a war

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. If your enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both arms tied behind their back.

hojobojo

We were talking about what would happen if US and China got into a war

1: US military defeats chinese military with very few casualties

2: Insurgency involving millions of people expels US military occupation forces

3: China is thrown into another bloody civil war

4: chinese defectors invade Taiwan

5: US navy carries out strikes in south east china

6: this goes on until another government is established

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]I would say Russia is the first, followed by the brits and the US. Sure looking statistically you might disagree. But look at it this way, russian military machine is more efficient, reliable, and much cheaper. a Mig-29 is still a better plane than the F-15, F-16 and F18, and costs 2x less to produce, same goes to the AK-74. Then Russia has more military history than the US, The US is too young to have a comparable military history to Europe. Europe has long standing traditions and proven standards for its generals. Than the Russians aren't afraid to get dirty, I mean look at Iraq vs Afganistan, The Russians didn't care a lot about civilians, if they got info that there were enemies hiding in a village they would just bomb it. This thread is really pro American, and it is clearly visible that the American propaganda machine is doing its job pretty well. NicktehImperial

WTF?

The US military is by far the most powerful on Earth. Nothing else even comes close. The size of it's Navy and Air capabilities is unmatched, along with one of the largest and best trained army's as well.

Donkey_Puncher

I would say Russia is the first, followed by the brits and the US. Sure looking statistically you might disagree. But look at it this way, russian military machine is more efficient, reliable, and much cheaper. a Mig-29 is still a better plane than the F-15, F-16 and F18, and costs 2x less to produce, same goes to the AK-74. Then Russia has more military history than the US, The US is too young to have a comparable military history to Europe. Europe has long standing traditions and proven standards for its generals. Than the Russians aren't afraid to get dirty, I mean look at Iraq vs Afganistan, The Russians didn't care a lot about civilians, if they got info that there were enemies hiding in a village they would just bomb it. This thread is really pro American, and it is clearly visible that the American propaganda machine is doing its job pretty well. muscleserge

The most efficient? The Russians are notorious for being incomptetant, reason being why they fell apart.

[QUOTE="hojobojo"][QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. If your enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both arms tied behind their back.

mig_killer2

We were talking about what would happen if US and China got into a war

[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"]we're talking about the insurgency too?

if there was an insurgency then the US WOULD lose.

Um, dude. Insurgency is an issue of occupation. If your enemy has forced you into a position where you need to resort to guerilla tactics to merely SURVIVE, then you definantly haven't won the "Best Military" title.

It's also rather stupid to judge the capabilites of the US military upon wars which they clearly forced themselves to fight with both arms tied behind their back.

hojobojo

We were talking about what would happen if US and China got into a war

1: US military defeats chinese military with very few casualties

2: Insurgency involving millions of people expels US military occupation forces

3: China is thrown into another bloody civil war

4: chinese defectors invade Taiwan

5: US navy carries out strikes in south east china

6: this goes on until another government is established

I second that. But I could aimagine a bit of a larger scale land war for some reason, IDK.

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

The US military is by far the most powerful on Earth. Nothing else even comes close. The size of it's Navy and Air capabilities is unmatched, along with one of the largest and best trained army's as well.

muscleserge

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

The US military is by far the most powerful on Earth. Nothing else even comes close. The size of it's Navy and Air capabilities is unmatched, along with one of the largest and best trained army's as well.

muscleserge

And yet russia can't do the same to chechnya...

The US has already defeated the Iraq military, if you want to talk about guerrilla warfare, that's for another thread. Go troll somewhere else.

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

The US military is by far the most powerful on Earth. Nothing else even comes close. The size of it's Navy and Air capabilities is unmatched, along with one of the largest and best trained army's as well.

muscleserge