I prefer ninjas. Why doesn't the poll have ninjas?
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I've got my trusty crowbar. You know, just in case I wake up to find my home swarming with headcrabs.
GTALoco
Ah, you have the Freeman Security Plan. I heard it's 99.9% effective against a Combine invasion of your personal space...
All of them and more. :D
I'd prefer a shotgun though for basic home defense. I shoot trap and sporting clays from time to time, so I have some experience and I find shotguns very comfortable.
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]I'll never own a gun unless I move to an area that doesn't have a non-existent crime rate. I'll probably have a baseball bat around for playing baseball, though. Or I'll sneak into the kitchen and grab a big carving knife.Infinite-Zr0Yeah.....agreed 100% The saying, 'I'd rather be caught with it, than be caught without it' comes to mind. or the saying "rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it." but seriously a Shotgun... the sound alone of the pump would for most cases be enough to scare away a common criminal, and if that dosent scare him away a .12 gage buckshot to the face will :D
I have a rather large knife my grandfather once owned... He got it in Mexico and it's old. The blade is worn but near the tip is still pretty sharp. I have it stuffed between my mattress.
[QUOTE="GTALoco"]
I've got my trusty crowbar. You know, just in case I wake up to find my home swarming with headcrabs.
Raikoh_
Ah, you have the Freeman Security Plan. I heard it's 99.9% effective against a Combine invasion of your personal space...
Combines killed my mother and raped my father :cry:[QUOTE="GTALoco"]
I've got my trusty crowbar. You know, just in case I wake up to find my home swarming with headcrabs.
Raikoh_
Ah, you have the Freeman Security Plan. I heard it's 99.9% effective against a Combine invasion of your personal space...
I definitely have peace of mind knowing that I'm secure against attack by hostile extradimensional aliens.
A tactical shotgun, or a handgun with hollow-point rounds. Anything else would be endangering the neighbors because of bullet penetration.
You do know there is home defense ammo for rifles, too right?A tactical shotgun, or a handgun with hollow-point rounds. Anything else would be endangering the neighbors because of bullet penetration.
Guppy507
[QUOTE="Guppy507"]You do know there is home defense ammo for rifles, too right?A tactical shotgun, or a handgun with hollow-point rounds. Anything else would be endangering the neighbors because of bullet penetration.
Infinite-Zr0
It's still high powered and much much higher velocity. Besides, I'd want knock down power in this instance, and a .223 or something similar doesn't have that. A hunting round does such as .308, but that's impractical. You want something fast to aim, and short enough so you don't get hung up on corners. Shotgun is the obvoius choice because you don't have to be a good shot.
You do know there is home defense ammo for rifles, too right?[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="Guppy507"]
A tactical shotgun, or a handgun with hollow-point rounds. Anything else would be endangering the neighbors because of bullet penetration.
Guppy507
It's still high powered and much much higher velocity. Besides, I'd want knock down power in this instance, and a .223 or something similar doesn't have that. A hunting round does such as .308, but that's impractical. You want something fast to aim, and short enough so you don't get hung up on corners. Shotgun is the obvoius choice because you don't have to be a good shot.
I'm not talking about whats better to use here. I'm just pointing out that saying bullet penetration from 'anything else' can endanger neighbors is just ignorant. And you apparently used, must less seen, home defense ammo for a rifle. Also considering a .223 hollow jacket will be more than enough to 'knock down' any would be robber. And obviously I'm not talking about hunting rifles.I have a shot gun that I keep lying around. It doesn't actually work, but it makes the scariest "ka-chink" noise when you use the pump action. If I really needed a gun I would probably grab a shot gun out of my gun safe. The only problem with that is that it takes me about 30 seconds to get the key and get a gun out of the safe and loaded, All else fails I keep a knife in my bed stand.
[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"] You do know there is home defense ammo for rifles, too right?Infinite-Zr0
It's still high powered and much much higher velocity. Besides, I'd want knock down power in this instance, and a .223 or something similar doesn't have that. A hunting round does such as .308, but that's impractical. You want something fast to aim, and short enough so you don't get hung up on corners. Shotgun is the obvoius choice because you don't have to be a good shot.
I'm not talking about whats better to use here. I'm just pointing out that saying bullet penetration from 'anything else' can endanger neighbors is just ignorant. And you apparently used, must less seen, home defense ammo for a rifle. Also considering a .223 hollow jacket will be more than enough to 'knock down' any would be robber. And obviously I'm not talking about hunting rifles.A .223 isn't heavy enough to literally knock a person on his ass, and that's what I'd want, so then he wouldn't be able to take a shot at me after I shot him.
[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"] You do know there is home defense ammo for rifles, too right?Infinite-Zr0
It's still high powered and much much higher velocity. Besides, I'd want knock down power in this instance, and a .223 or something similar doesn't have that. A hunting round does such as .308, but that's impractical. You want something fast to aim, and short enough so you don't get hung up on corners. Shotgun is the obvoius choice because you don't have to be a good shot.
I'm not talking about whats better to use here. I'm just pointing out that saying bullet penetration from 'anything else' can endanger neighbors is just ignorant. And you apparently used, must less seen, home defense ammo for a rifle. Also considering a .223 hollow jacket will be more than enough to 'knock down' any would be robber. And obviously I'm not talking about hunting rifles.And what's more, a higher caliber round from something like an AK (.308 I believe) even if it didn't hit on the first couple shots, that amount of noise in a small space would make some crackhead trying rob/kill you **** himself.
And what's more, a higher caliber round from something like an AK (.308 I believe) even if it didn't hit on the first couple shots, that amount of noise in a small space would make some crackhead trying rob/kill you **** himself.
mechworrior762
I'm assuming this guy is competent. :P AK is 7.62x39, same size as .308, but less gunpowder.
I'm not talking about whats better to use here. I'm just pointing out that saying bullet penetration from 'anything else' can endanger neighbors is just ignorant. And you apparently used, must less seen, home defense ammo for a rifle. Also considering a .223 hollow jacket will be more than enough to 'knock down' any would be robber. And obviously I'm not talking about hunting rifles.[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="Guppy507"]
It's still high powered and much much higher velocity. Besides, I'd want knock down power in this instance, and a .223 or something similar doesn't have that. A hunting round does such as .308, but that's impractical. You want something fast to aim, and short enough so you don't get hung up on corners. Shotgun is the obvoius choice because you don't have to be a good shot.
Guppy507
A .223 isn't heavy enough to literally knock a person on his ass, and that's what I'd want, so then he wouldn't be able to take a shot at me after I shot him.
What does that have anything to do with "A tactical shotgun, or a handgun with hollow-point rounds. Anything else would be endangering the neighbors because of bullet penetration." ? And I didn't know a pistol can knock people on their ass. Interesting...[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"] I'm not talking about whats better to use here. I'm just pointing out that saying bullet penetration from 'anything else' can endanger neighbors is just ignorant. And you apparently used, must less seen, home defense ammo for a rifle. Also considering a .223 hollow jacket will be more than enough to 'knock down' any would be robber. And obviously I'm not talking about hunting rifles.Infinite-Zr0
A .223 isn't heavy enough to literally knock a person on his ass, and that's what I'd want, so then he wouldn't be able to take a shot at me after I shot him.
What does that have anything to do with "A tactical shotgun, or a handgun with hollow-point rounds. Anything else would be endangering the neighbors because of bullet penetration." ? And I didn't know a pistol can knock people on their ass. Interesting...Ever seen a .45 ACP?
What does that have anything to do with "A tactical shotgun, or a handgun with hollow-point rounds. Anything else would be endangering the neighbors because of bullet penetration." ? And I didn't know a pistol can knock people on their ass. Interesting...[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="Guppy507"]
A .223 isn't heavy enough to literally knock a person on his ass, and that's what I'd want, so then he wouldn't be able to take a shot at me after I shot him.
Guppy507
Ever seen a .45 ACP?
There you go going off tangent again. Seems like very post you make, it starts a different debate on a different day. FYI .45 ACP is no where near a standard as pistol calibers. So that argument is moot Maybe if in your original post you said "a .45 hangun" or something along those lines then you would have some validity. But you simply said "a handgun with hollow-point rounds"[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"] What does that have anything to do with "A tactical shotgun, or a handgun with hollow-point rounds. Anything else would be endangering the neighbors because of bullet penetration." ? And I didn't know a pistol can knock people on their ass. Interesting... Infinite-Zr0
Ever seen a .45 ACP?
There you go going off tangent again. Seems like very post you make, it starts a different debate on a different day. FYI .45 ACP is no where near a standard as pistol calibers. So that argument is moot Maybe if in your original post you said "a .45 hangun" or something along those lines then you would have some validity. But you simply said "a handgun with hollow-point rounds"Handgun implies a lot. .357 MAG, .45 MAG, .45 ACP, .454 Casull (sp?), etc...
I'm not debating anything, in the very beginning I was just stating some other reasons I wouldn't want a rifle, not necessarily directed at you in a debating form. After that I was just ignoring your personal attack on me, and bringing up a different points in your various other posts.
There you go going off tangent again. Seems like very post you make, it starts a different debate on a different day. FYI .45 ACP is no where near a standard as pistol calibers. So that argument is moot Maybe if in your original post you said "a .45 hangun" or something along those lines then you would have some validity. But you simply said "a handgun with hollow-point rounds"[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="Guppy507"]
Ever seen a .45 ACP?
Guppy507
Handgun implies a lot. .357 MAG, .45 MAG, .45 ACP, .454 Casull (sp?), etc...
I'm not debating anything, in the very beginning I was just stating some other reasons I wouldn't want a rifle, not necessarily directed at you in a debating form. After that I was just ignoring your personal attack on me, and bringing up a different points in your various other posts.
Yes, handgun does imply a lot. Thats why your "Ever seen a .45 ACP?" statement isn't valid. I don't see where you're getting at. And you are "trying" to actively engage in this debate, but you go off tangent every time. I'm trying to stay on topic, but then you feel the need to bring up unrelated points. Read the posts, you can see how your posts have little to nothing to do with the debate at hand.[QUOTE="_glatisant_"]You do know that guns don't go walking by themselves and shoot people right? I lol'd, very hard.I'd feel a lot less safe with a gun in my house, personally. I have the odd cricket bat though.
Infinite-Zr0
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