What's the problem of smoking?

You smokers would hate my house. Not only is there no smoking in my house. I won't even allow it on my property. That's right, I don't even allow smokers to step outside to smoke. They want to smoke, they have to leave. Used to have idiots leaving their nasty ass butts in my yard all the time. I feel no sympathy towards smokers because they feel no sympathy towards us non smokers. If they had it their way, they would still be allowed to smoke in public buildings and screw the health of the non smoker that was smart enough to either never start or smart enough to give up such a stupid habit. Smokers are so disrespectful that why will walk in your house smoking without even asking if it is okay or they will light up in your house without asking. Just had an asshats light up in my house the other day and and i cursed him out as I kicked him out my house. AmazonTreeBoa

you think you're better than a smoker because you don't smoke? well you're not, so get over yourself :)

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] That's not what you asked. This is what you asked. "You'll die if you smoke. You'll die if you don't. I don't see a problem, so why is there one?" I don't care if other people smoke. I look at smokers as stupid people and I am ok with them smoking because it helps with natural selection and helps weed out the idiots over time. I do NOT however believe the government or employers should have to cover their health cost. If somebody is stupid enough to smoke, then they should ALWAYS have to provide their own medical coverage. Same goes for fat people that eat too much unhealthy foods.AmazonTreeBoa

Gee that's a bit extreme. Do you feel the same way about people who stay too much time under the sun, who drink too much, who work too much, who don't do exercise, and many other conditions that can lead to health issues?

Too much work can lead to serious stress-related health problems.

That's just absurd.

You know what would happen if everyone stopped smoking and drinking tomorrow? The government would suddenly notice a huge loss in taxes, they don't want that do they?

So essentially you're saying we should leave a person to die if that person made a dumb decision that caused the health issue? Man, you would make the most blood-thirsty dictators blush! So if a guy falls when riding a skate/bicycle/whatever because he was a bit reckless and breaks a leg you would leave him to deal with it?

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

Gee that's a bit extreme. Do you feel the same way about people who stay too much time under the sun, who drink too much, who work too much, who don't do exercise, and many other conditions that can lead to health issues?

needled24-7

Bingo!

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]You smokers would hate my house. Not only is there no smoking in my house. I won't even allow it on my property. That's right, I don't even allow smokers to step outside to smoke. They want to smoke, they have to leave. Used to have idiots leaving their nasty ass butts in my yard all the time. I feel no sympathy towards smokers because they feel no sympathy towards us non smokers. If they had it their way, they would still be allowed to smoke in public buildings and screw the health of the non smoker that was smart enough to either never start or smart enough to give up such a stupid habit. Smokers are so disrespectful that why will walk in your house smoking without even asking if it is okay or they will light up in your house without asking. Just had an asshats light up in my house the other day and and i cursed him out as I kicked him out my house. needled24-7

you think you're better than a smoker because you don't smoke? well you're not, so get over yourself :)

Yeah, it's one thing to be against smoking, but that guy is a giant dumbass about it. So you don't allow a friend/relative to smoke outside? LOL

You smokers would hate my house. Not only is there no smoking in my house. I won't even allow it on my property. That's right, I don't even allow smokers to step outside to smoke. They want to smoke, they have to leave. Used to have idiots leaving their nasty ass butts in my yard all the time. I feel no sympathy towards smokers because they feel no sympathy towards us non smokers. If they had it their way, they would still be allowed to smoke in public buildings and screw the health of the non smoker that was smart enough to either never start or smart enough to give up such a stupid habit. Smokers are so disrespectful that why will walk in your house smoking without even asking if it is okay or they will light up in your house without asking. Just had an asshats light up in my house the other day and and i cursed him out as I kicked him out my house. AmazonTreeBoa

Let me ask you this. Is it any of your business what other people do? Is their health your concern? No. You're just a stuck up prick who cares only about himself, and doesn't respect people who smoke, because, in his opinion, they're stupid.

Wake up. You're no better than smokers.

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] stay under the sun and drink too much, yes I feel the same way. Work too much, how much is too much? Besides less of a social life, I don't see anything else happening. And if the person is fat and refuses to exercise, then yes I feel the same way about them as well. Extreme...no, just realistic. Expecting to government and/or employers to cover the health cost of health issues that were cause by stupid decisions from the person with the health issue/s is extreme and unrealistic.nunovlopes

Bingo!

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]if the government can bail out the banks because of stupid business practices, why can't they bail me out for stupid health decisions?

kraken2109

Bingo!

Spoken like a true slave of capitalism.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]If you want to smoke, go right ahead. Just stay away from me.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]You smokers would hate my house. Not only is there no smoking in my house. I won't even allow it on my property. That's right, I don't even allow smokers to step outside to smoke. They want to smoke, they have to leave. Used to have idiots leaving their nasty ass butts in my yard all the time. I feel no sympathy towards smokers because they feel no sympathy towards us non smokers. If they had it their way, they would still be allowed to smoke in public buildings and screw the health of the non smoker that was smart enough to either never start or smart enough to give up such a stupid habit. Smokers are so disrespectful that why will walk in your house smoking without even asking if it is okay or they will light up in your house without asking. Just had an asshats light up in my house the other day and and i cursed him out as I kicked him out my house. Arthur96

Let me ask you this. Is it any of your business what other people do? Is their health your concern? No. You're just a stuck up prick who cares only about himself, and doesn't respect people who smoke, because, in his opinion, they're stupid.

Wake up. You're no better than smokers.

Apparently some people are unaware of the high taxes placed on cigarettes.

Apparently some people are unaware of the high taxes placed on cigarettes.

worlock77

I'm going out on a limb and thinking you are connecting this with health care, as I think that's what the previous poster was reffering to? If so then yes everyone's premiums go up because of deaths or illnesses which are caused by smoking. If I've read into this wrong I apoligize in advance.

Apparently some people are unaware of the high taxes placed on cigarettes.

worlock77

But what about the people getting smoke blown in their face without them liking it?The_Last_Ride

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]But what about the people getting smoke blown in their face without them liking it?Arthur96

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

Point is, smoking is BAD. Why risk hasting yourself to your grave? It should be a crime that there's a market for this poisonous $hit. But sadly it's an integral part of the chain of commerce.katana_duo

My main problem with smoking is that too many uncool people are doing it, diluting the coolness of all the actual cool smokers.Chevolutionary

Well said.

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]But what about the people getting smoke blown in their face without them liking it?Arthur96

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

What I learned:

Rapist should be jailed

Killers should be jailed

People who run you over should be jailed

People who convict others unjustly should they themselves be jailed

Smokers who blow smoke in your face should be.... wait, just a sec my daughter is crying....brb...

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]But what about the people getting smoke blown in their face without them liking it?Arthur96

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

Point is, smoking is BAD. Why risk hasting yourself to your grave? It should be a crime that there's a market for this poisonous $hit. But sadly it's an integral part of the chain of commerce.katana_duo

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]But what about the people getting smoke blown in their face without them liking it?Arthur96

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

[QUOTE="katana_duo"]Point is, smoking is BAD. Why risk hasting yourself to your grave? It should be a crime that there's a market for this poisonous $hit. But sadly it's an integral part of the chain of commerce.needled24-7

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[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]But what about the people getting smoke blown in their face without them liking it?rgsniper1

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

What I learned:

Rapist should be jailed

Killers should be jailed

People who run you over should be jailed

People who convict others unjustly should they themselves be jailed

Smokers who blow smoke in your face should be.... wait, just a sec my daughter is crying....brb...

Not talking about the people who commit said crimes, I'm talking about the victims.

Crying about someone blowing smoke in your face is just silly. Sure that was probably not the best example, but nevertheless.

Just tired of everyone complaining about smokers, as if they themselves are royalty, and should always be cared for and thought about.

[QUOTE="Arthur96"]

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]But what about the people getting smoke blown in their face without them liking it?fueled-system

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

How is that, in any way, relevant?

I don't think people cry about the actual act of someone smoking, I honestly think 99.9% could care less until it actually effects them in some way. If in a round about way it cost them money from there own pocket for something they don't do or some type of sufforing then they probably have every reason to "cry" about it. Would you complain if someone just came up pulled your wallet out of your back pocket, removed the money from it, handed it back to you and said "hey thanks" as he walked away? How about if someone walked up to you and sprayed a bottle of lysol in your face or held a dog turd under your nose? Would you say something? Both extreme examples but both examples where the other person would just be doing what they wanted to do right.... Actually the biggest differance from smoking or my examples is that one side happens so often it's become ok even though it's the same. The real issue is that this is how society works and it sucks.

My body cannot handle smoking, so I never have done it nor do I like anyone else doing it around me. I won't get mad if someone does smoke around me, but I ask them to aim their secondary smoke to a direction where no one is standing.

[QUOTE="fueled-system"][QUOTE="Arthur96"]

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

Arthur96

How is that, in any way, relevant?

[QUOTE="Arthur96"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]Are you even old enough to smoke... Seriously that argument makes zero sense fueled-system

How is that, in any way, relevant?

No. No it wouldn't.

You don't have to kill someone to understand what effect that has on the victim.

On top of that, I don't have to be of age to smoke. I'll admit it, I smoked for a brief period before, as stupid as that was. I stopped liking it, and I quit. End of.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]You smokers would hate my house. Not only is there no smoking in my house. I won't even allow it on my property. That's right, I don't even allow smokers to step outside to smoke. They want to smoke, they have to leave. Used to have idiots leaving their nasty ass butts in my yard all the time. I feel no sympathy towards smokers because they feel no sympathy towards us non smokers. If they had it their way, they would still be allowed to smoke in public buildings and screw the health of the non smoker that was smart enough to either never start or smart enough to give up such a stupid habit. Smokers are so disrespectful that why will walk in your house smoking without even asking if it is okay or they will light up in your house without asking. Just had an asshats light up in my house the other day and and i cursed him out as I kicked him out my house. Arthur96

Let me ask you this. Is it any of your business what other people do? Is their health your concern? No. You're just a stuck up prick who cares only about himself, and doesn't respect people who smoke, because, in his opinion, they're stupid.

Wake up. You're no better than smokers.

Nothing

Nothing

Lord_Omikron666

Really? You think nothing? nothing at all? Not health, price, smell, consideration... nothing.... You my good man must live a peaceful life. :)

Here's a list of 100 reasons, you don't agree with even 1?

http://cigarettesmokingkills.com/reasonswhy.html

Not even 1?

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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]You smokers would hate my house. Not only is there no smoking in my house. I won't even allow it on my property. That's right, I don't even allow smokers to step outside to smoke. They want to smoke, they have to leave. Used to have idiots leaving their nasty ass butts in my yard all the time. I feel no sympathy towards smokers because they feel no sympathy towards us non smokers. If they had it their way, they would still be allowed to smoke in public buildings and screw the health of the non smoker that was smart enough to either never start or smart enough to give up such a stupid habit. Smokers are so disrespectful that why will walk in your house smoking without even asking if it is okay or they will light up in your house without asking. Just had an asshats light up in my house the other day and and i cursed him out as I kicked him out my house. Tylendal

Let me ask you this. Is it any of your business what other people do? Is their health your concern? No. You're just a stuck up prick who cares only about himself, and doesn't respect people who smoke, because, in his opinion, they're stupid.

Wake up. You're no better than smokers.

Sure, employing a full time division of the government just to collecting and running millions of DNA tests, then issuing and attempting to collect fines. That won't be costy at all. And that's not to mention the issue of DNA contamination, which would render the entire thing null and void.

It says on the pack that it will kill you.

It says on the pack that it will kill you.

mAArdman

No it doesn't.

It's not good for you.

It may be far more cost effective to just watch who these people are and then start dumping your trash in the lawn every week (just remove anything with your name or address on it of course)? Maybe after a while they would get the hint that it's not cool to liter just because they don't give a damn about anyone else.

I play video games to relieve stress and read engaging articles. People that start smoking know full well what they're getting into...and then they turn around and start telling others don't start smoking, guess you should have followed you're own advice huh? How hard is it not to start smoking? I've gone 23 years so far without even thinking about smoking, I'm never going to start either, same with drinking, they're two sides of the same token.katana_duo

You're very smart by restraining yourself from alcohol.

You can't even begin to imagine the sheer amount of alcohol-related deaths and violence that happen every year.

I too choose not to drink or smoke at all.

By doing so I feel as if I lead a more fulfilling life.

It may be far more cost effective to just watch who these people are and then start dumping your trash in the lawn every week (just remove anything with your name or address on it of course)? Maybe after a while they would get the hint that it's not cool to liter just because they don't give a damn about anyone else.

rgsniper1

Who's lawn would you be dumping your trash in?

[QUOTE="rgsniper1"]

It may be far more cost effective to just watch who these people are and then start dumping your trash in the lawn every week (just remove anything with your name or address on it of course)? Maybe after a while they would get the hint that it's not cool to liter just because they don't give a damn about anyone else.

worlock77

Who's lawn would you be dumping your trash in?

I was commenting on the DNA post and....

Sorry I meant to type "into the smokers lawn". I'm assuming they would be ok with it as litering wouldn't seem to be a problem.

Some countries actually make a massive profit on smokers, I hope that everyone realizes that? People who live extremely healthy are mostly a burden on the long run, especially in wellfare states.

[QUOTE="mAArdman"]

It says on the pack that it will kill you.

worlock77

No it doesn't.

Some countries actually make a massive profit on smokers, I hope that everyone realizes that? People who live extremely healthy are mostly a burden on the long run, especially in wellfare states.

rastotm

I'd rather pay even more if I had to to support extremely healthy living than I would to pay for a smoker who throws his butts in my lawn and around my community. That's just me though.

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[QUOTE="mAArdman"]

It says on the pack that it will kill you.

mAArdman

No it doesn't.

That doesn't count. USA only.

[QUOTE="mAArdman"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

No it doesn't.

worlock77

That doesn't count. USA only.