What's the problem of smoking?

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#201 rgsniper1
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That doesn't count. USA only.

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#202 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="rgsniper1"]

It may be far more cost effective to just watch who these people are and then start dumping your trash in the lawn every week (just remove anything with your name or address on it of course)? Maybe after a while they would get the hint that it's not cool to liter just because they don't give a damn about anyone else.

rgsniper1

Who's lawn would you be dumping your trash in?

I was commenting on the DNA post and....

Sorry I meant to type "into the smokers lawn". I'm assuming they would be ok with it as litering wouldn't seem to be a problem.

Yeah I know what you were responding to, I've been reading the thread. How do you propose finding out who these people are?

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#203 SouL-Tak3R
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You die earlier, more miserably, the cost, have trouble breathing in life, coughs (that can keep you up at night), it's rude to smoke around other people, may have to use voice box, cancer. There are plenty of reasons not to smoke. No benefits whatsoever.

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#204 rastotm
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[QUOTE="rastotm"]

Some countries actually make a massive profit on smokers, I hope that everyone realizes that? People who live extremely healthy are mostly a burden on the long run, especially in wellfare states.

rgsniper1

I'd rather pay even more if I had to to support extremely healthy living than I would to pay for a smoker who throws his butts in my lawn and around my community. That's just me though.


You don't pay the smoker, the smoker pays you. seems like a pretty good reason to stop whining about them. Quite a bit of fatties are just as smelly and cost a ton more.

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#205 rgsniper1
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Honestly, I wasn't being serious. I suppose if you really wanted to you could stand outside almost any building and watch people walking in (a lot just drop there butts on the ground before entering) and then watch what vehicle they get into when they leave. Take that tag number to your cousin Vinny that works for the DMV and have him run the plate. Viola....

If they are driving down the road when they throw it out the window... well then you just skipped ahead to step two... congratulations.

Maybe a better idea in hindsight would be to just shout "oh excuse me sir, I see you've accidentaly dropped your piece of toxic trash here on the ground. I'm sure it was accidental because you sure don't look like the kind of douche who'd do it on purpose. Stay here while I scout out the proper disposal container... oh look it's right there an ashtray and only 5 feet away, lucky you".

:)

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#206 rgsniper1
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[QUOTE="rgsniper1"]

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

Some countries actually make a massive profit on smokers, I hope that everyone realizes that? People who live extremely healthy are mostly a burden on the long run, especially in wellfare states.

rastotm

I'd rather pay even more if I had to to support extremely healthy living than I would to pay for a smoker who throws his butts in my lawn and around my community. That's just me though.


You don't pay the smoker, the smoker pays you. seems like a pretty good reason to stop whining about them. Quite a bit of fatties are just as smelly and cost a ton more.

so you're saying my health premiums are lower because people smoke.. i'm not paying more.. man have I had it all wrong :/

And is "fatties" a PC term (no I'm not a PC police, I just thought the word choice was interesting)? I do however suppose that's why extremely large people tend to have a taboo about them huh.

Last I'll pay a little more to have a cleaner and better smelling community with lower starting healthcare premiums, is that a better way to put it.

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#207 infinite884
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well, if you don't see a problem, keep doing it.

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#208 worlock77
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Honestly, I wasn't being serious. I suppose if you really wanted to you could stand outside almost any building and watch people walking in (a lot just drop there butts on the ground before entering) and then watch what vehicle they get into when they leave. Take that tag number to your cousin Vinny that works for the DMV and have him run the plate. Viola....

If they are driving down the road when they throw it out the window... well then you just skipped ahead to step two... congratulations.

Maybe a better idea in hindsight would be to just shout "oh excuse me sir, I see you've accidentaly dropped your piece of toxic trash here on the ground. I'm sure it was accidental because you sure don't look like the kind of douche who'd do it on purpose. Stay here while I scout out the proper disposal container... oh look it's right there an ashtray and only 5 feet away, lucky you".

:)

rgsniper1

As long as you do the same to any other person who drops any kind of litter on the ground. If not you're just being a hypocrite.

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#209 rgsniper1
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[QUOTE="rgsniper1"]

Honestly, I wasn't being serious. I suppose if you really wanted to you could stand outside almost any building and watch people walking in (a lot just drop there butts on the ground before entering) and then watch what vehicle they get into when they leave. Take that tag number to your cousin Vinny that works for the DMV and have him run the plate. Viola....

If they are driving down the road when they throw it out the window... well then you just skipped ahead to step two... congratulations.

Maybe a better idea in hindsight would be to just shout "oh excuse me sir, I see you've accidentaly dropped your piece of toxic trash here on the ground. I'm sure it was accidental because you sure don't look like the kind of douche who'd do it on purpose. Stay here while I scout out the proper disposal container... oh look it's right there an ashtray and only 5 feet away, lucky you".

:)

worlock77

As long as you do the same to any other person who drops any kind of litter on the ground. If not you're just being a hypocrite.

You know, I totally agree with you on that. And it's why when I see people liter it makes me angry. It's also why when years ago I had a girlfriend that while riding in my car down the highway casually threw trash out the window (a candy wrapper I think), I actually stopped the car went back and picked it up. She couldn't believe i'd actually done that so we had a small tiff about it although I tried to remain steady voiced and calm, my arguement was as I feel so strongly about it there was no way in hell trash was going to be coming from my car. I'm not perfect, far from it, I don't try to act like i'm better than anyone else, but having said that I know I try damn hard to not be part of the problem. All that said, you rarely see people throw other types of trash out because they hide it knowing it's trash and wrong to liter. People who smoke (not all) don't seem to think throwing butts on the ground is litering at all and therefor don't even hide it. A lot take that last drag and hold it up or flick it out far for all to see. Heck some even take the time to scrape it across the ground being considerate of not starting a fire while they are in the process of litering. Go figure.

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#210 Lord_Omikron666
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[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"]

Nothing

rgsniper1

Really? You think nothing? nothing at all? Not health, price, smell, consideration... nothing.... You my good man must live a peaceful life. :)

Here's a list of 100 reasons, you don't agree with even 1?

http://cigarettesmokingkills.com/reasonswhy.html

Not even 1?

Nope

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#211 soulless4now
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The smell is awful. The people that smoke smell awful too.

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#212 Easports48
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True. I don't care if people Smoke. It's your business. I do not have to be around people who do. If you smoke so what. To each is own.
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#213 tjricardo089
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You will die eventually. Smoking is something you can prevent, but there are other things you can't like being attacked by aliens.

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#214 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

Gee that's a bit extreme. Do you feel the same way about people who stay too much time under the sun, who drink too much, who work too much, who don't do exercise, and many other conditions that can lead to health issues?

needled24-7

stay under the sun and drink too much, yes I feel the same way. Work too much, how much is too much? Besides less of a social life, I don't see anything else happening. And if the person is fat and refuses to exercise, then yes I feel the same way about them as well. Extreme...no, just realistic. Expecting to government and/or employers to cover the health cost of health issues that were cause by stupid decisions from the person with the health issue/s is extreme and unrealistic.

if the government can bail out the banks because of stupid business practices, why can't they bail me out for stupid health decisions?

Because banks employ people who work hard and have families to support while smokers are doing no good at all to themselves or others.
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#215 chilly-chill
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I'd smoke more than normal if it didn't turn your teeth yellow..

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#216 MirkoS77
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My friends smoke, whenever I go over to their house they're always rolling up and smoking non-stop. It can become an irritant after a while, I just try to keep upwind of them and hold my breath if smoke blows over into my face. It's their house though, so who am I to say anything? I can always leave, and I can always remove myself from a situation where 2nd hand smoke is present (most of the time).

Plus I like taking one drag every so oftern, it gives me an incredible head-rush.

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#217 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="fueled-system"][QUOTE="Arthur96"]

What about the people who don't like being raped, killed, run over, convicted unjustly, and so forth?

Arthur96

Are you even old enough to smoke... Seriously that argument makes zero sense

How is that, in any way, relevant?

:lol: How is that relevant? Are you joking?
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#218 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="mAArdman"]

It says on the pack that it will kill you.

worlock77

No it doesn't.

lolwut

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#219 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="mAArdman"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

No it doesn't.

worlock77



look at the first image, http://tiny.cc/im2w5

That doesn't count. USA only.

Except the 3rd image is Australian warnings...herp