[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]I am severely disappointed in the OT right now. If she was your true love, she would sacrifice herself for the kids. Or if you decided to save her rather than them, she would be disappointed in you and see you as being less noble. Anything less seems to not be a true love, at least in my eyes.black_cat19
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That makes absolutely no sense to me, her being your true love depends on how you feel about her, and vice versa, you can't say EVERY single girl in the world would think that, because it's just not true. And how exactly does her doing/not doing something have ANYTHING to do with her being your true love???
I don't think any man wants a selfish wife. :| Anything less then her telling me to let go of her.
Not selfish, but not completely selfless either, I don't want a saint or a nun, I just want a normal girl that complements me and that I can get along with and trust, I just want there to be a special sort of connection, someone who accepts me for who I am, but of course she'll have her defects, just like I do and just like everyone else does, there's no such thing as a perfect human being (not that I even consider not wasting your life over some kids and a guy you'll never meet and don't even have a connection with a defect, but whatever).
Ok I'm gonna go off of the girl topic because I understand what you mean although I disagree. BUT, are you serious in saying you would pick your true love over the lives of children? They have dreams and you are gonna cut them short just because YOU wouldn't have your true love? Now that, in my mind, is extreme selfishness right there.
Well, yeah...
People die all the time, that won't change, and no one cares except those close to them, because everyone else doesn't know these people, I'm sure somewhere, somehow, a bus full of kids just died and I had nothing to do with it, do I care? Of course not, I didn't even know those kids, and again, people die all the time anyway. I think it's not much different here...
Well obviously there was nothing you could have done. But if you can do something, even if it means sacrificing the one you love, you should do the right thing. I think she would be proud you were her love. :)
Sorry, but sacrificing the life of my girlfriend, the person I love and care about the most in this world, and who I know would still love me even if I commited this (apparently) unthinkable act of pure evil because we share the same views regarding this sort of thing, in exchange of the lives of some kids I didn't even know or care about in the first place, and whom I'll probably never see again after my most admirable act of selflessness, just doesn't seem like a good deal to me.
Think what you will, maybe I am an incarnation of evil, but I stand by my desicion: let the kids die...
Why the hell should it be a deal? These kids, as Genetic Code pointed out, means just as much to their parents as your love for your wife. And yet you are still gonna deal your blatantly selfish deed simply because she wouldn't care? If I was your friend in real life, I would turn my back on you. :|
I'm really, truly sorry, but that's just how I see things. Help anyone who is close to you, or that you have contact with, even if it's the first time you've ever seen the person, if they come to you asking for help, as long as it's something you can do, don't think twice, help.
But don't go out of your way to help every single person in sight who is in need, or do something that's just out of your league (extreme example: lend a person so much money you end up on the brink of bankruptcy or else he dies) or that's harmful to you just to help a person in need. To me that kind of selflessness is just not rational, things just don't work that way, you can't be some kind of robot hardwired to do anything to help people in need, and live your whole life only for others forgetting about yourself, that's just harmful for yourself, it's counterproductive.
That's my way of thinking, and killing my girlfriend to save some kids is something I couldn't do, it's out of my league, and it's harmful to me, besides, it's going out of my way to help someone who didn't ask for my specific help, so it covers all of my criteria for not doing it. Sorry if you find it disgusting or whatever, but that's just who I am, what else can I say.
I don't go out trying to save the world :P, thats too ambitious and crazy. I know I have to do something with kids who are abused tho; I have a strong passion for that. All I'm saying is if you are given the oppurtunity to help someone out that truly needs it, (the kids would fall under that category because... they're kids) I will do everything in my power to help them. Also in your last paragraph you are describing how everyone is. Hell I would be too. And this is a prime moment of preaching but I already know you wouldn't hear any of it so I won't. All I'll say is the only reason I wouldn't choose the girl over the kids is God inside of me. :)
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