Who are your favorite leftists?

[QUOTE="kraychik"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] dat blatant racism.TacticalDesire

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

lol seriosluy I am like really drunk. I am trying to writ a coherent message but wtf=? where am I???

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Is it racist to acknowledge the fact that Jews, on average, have significantly higher IQs than the regular population? I forgot, facts and humour are both racist when they upset leftists. I wonder if you think Chris Rock or Dace Chappelle are racists... wait, I know the answer - you think they're comedic geniuses.

kraychik

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

Nope, but perhaps Jewish people have higher IQs since a large majority of them are liberal, and liberals have higher IQs.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="kraychik"] Perhaps he's only half-Jewish and he got his brains from the non-Jewish side of his family.kraychik

yeah I hare you gamespot. drunk isso muxh beter

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

TacticalDesire

Nope, but perhaps Jewish people have higher IQs since a large majority of them are liberal, and liberals have higher IQs.

lol seriosluy I am like really drunk. I am trying to writ a coherent message but wtf=? where am I???

themajormayor

[QUOTE="flazzle"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] By the way, MLK was a social conservative and would most likely identify himself with the Republican party if he was alive today. kingkong0124

You'll NEVER convince anyone of that here, espeically in this thread.

Be prepared to read a ton of quotes and a ton of links. You'll probably end up being a called a 'birther' if you argue long enough.

Then if you dig up some links supporting your claim, the sources will be attacked and discredited

Just sayin,,,,

yes, i agree

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Is it racist to acknowledge the fact that Jews, on average, have significantly higher IQs than the regular population? I forgot, facts and humour are both racist when they upset leftists. I wonder if you think Chris Rock or Dace Chappelle are racists... wait, I know the answer - you think they're comedic geniuses.

kingkong0124

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

lol seriosluy I am like really drunk. I am trying to writ a coherent message but wtf=? where am I???

Ace6301

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Is it racist to acknowledge the fact that Jews, on average, have significantly higher IQs than the regular population? I forgot, facts and humour are both racist when they upset leftists. I wonder if you think Chris Rock or Dace Chappelle are racists... wait, I know the answer - you think they're comedic geniuses.

kingkong0124

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

First of all I don't see how work ethic correlates to a persons intelligence, secondly if you read the thread you'll see that he was discussing IQ in the above post...

Also when did I ever treat IQ as an end all be all? It seems to me like I just asked a question. Although if you want to go down that path, people with higher IQs make more money and generally lead more succesful and varied lives.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Say whatever you want. I'm not a leftist, I don't oppose free speech. Doesn't change the substance of the joke I made earlier about the IQs of Jewish people from being true.Darkman2007

Nope, but perhaps Jewish people have higher IQs since a large majority of them are liberal, and liberals have higher IQs.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

kraychik

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

TacticalDesire

First of all I don't see how work ethic correlates to a persons intelligence, secondly if you read the thread you'll see that he was discussing IQ in the above post...

Also when did I ever treat IQ as an end all be all? It seems to me like I just asked a question. Although if you want to go down that path, people with higher IQs make more money and generally lead more succesful and varied lives.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Say whatever you want. I'm not a leftist, I don't oppose free speech. Doesn't change the substance of the joke I made earlier about the IQs of Jewish people from being true.Darkman2007

Nope, but perhaps Jewish people have higher IQs since a large majority of them are liberal, and liberals have higher IQs.

Hmm fair point, I don't really know the statisitcs on Jewish practitioners and their politics in other countries. Liberals have higher IQs universally though it seems regardless of country or place of origin.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

kraychik

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

kraychik

I'm not attacking you, and I'm not involved in your discussion w/ Sun Tzu. Also I'm not upset about your joke, it is very possible that Jewish people do have higher IQs, I'm just responding with some statistics which seem to have created a problem for you.

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Sometimes, smart people often lack common sense. Additionally, I find it funny how you're using IQ as it's some sort of end all be all. There are many other factors that you are not taking into place in terms of intelligence, such as work ethic. kingkong0124

I don't think I'm personally attacking anyone just referring to a study that doesn't seem to suit Kray.

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Sometimes, smart people often lack common sense. Additionally, I find it funny how you're using IQ as it's some sort of end all be all. There are many other factors that you are not taking into place in terms of intelligence, such as work ethic. Ace6301

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Nope, but perhaps Jewish people have higher IQs since a large majority of them are liberal, and liberals have higher IQs.

TacticalDesire

Hmm fair point, I don't really know the statisitcs on Jewish practitioners and their politics in other countries. Liberals have higher IQs universally though it seems regardless of country or place of origin.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

As a radical leftist myself, I have a deep admiration for many of my fellow comrades who have fought the good fight

Some of my favorites include Martin Luther King, George Orwell, Albert Camus, and Rosa Luxemburg

As for more current leftists I enjoy the work of people such as Amy Goodman, Naomi Klein, and Camilia Vallejo

They are doing a lot to make the world a better place :)

I look forward to see which leftists OT admires

From what I've been reading there is a lot of you out there so don't disappoint

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Is it ok to acknowledge that those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have on average an IQ 11 points higher than those who identify themselves as "very conservative"?

TacticalDesire

First of all I don't see how work ethic correlates to a persons intelligence, secondly if you read the thread you'll see that he was discussing IQ in the above post...

Also when did I ever treat IQ as an end all be all? It seems to me like I just asked a question. Although if you want to go down that path, people with higher IQs make more money and generally lead more succesful and varied lives.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

As a radical leftist myself, I have a deep admiration for many of my fellow comrades who have fought the good fight

Some of my favorites include Martin Luther King, George Orwell, Albert Camus, and Rosa Luxemburg

As for more current leftists I enjoy the work of people such as Amy Goodman, Naomi Klein, and Camilia Vallejo

They are doing a lot to make the world a better place :)

I look forward to see which leftists OT admires

From what I've been reading there is a lot of you out there so don't disappoint

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] thats not quite true, it depends on the country in question. in the US, Jews are mostly liberal , but in other countries thats not necessarily true.Darkman2007

Hmm fair point, I don't really know the statisitcs on Jewish practitioners and their politics in other countries. Liberals have higher IQs universally though it seems regardless of country or place of origin.

Suntzu who is the guy in your avatar?Vader993

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

if you share the views of the people you mentioned, then you cannot be a Zionist of any kind. if you do not share their views , then its something else

and yes, the far left generally hates Jews as a people,

Darkman2007

youre missing the point, what Im saying is that if you support or share the views of some those people who you mentioned before, then you cannot be a Zionist, Labour or otherwise.

I actually have alot of respect for Ben Gurion and Dayan

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Sometimes, smart people often lack common sense. Additionally, I find it funny how you're using IQ as it's some sort of end all be all. There are many other factors that you are not taking into place in terms of intelligence, such as work ethic. kingkong0124

First of all I don't see how work ethic correlates to a persons intelligence, secondly if you read the thread you'll see that he was discussing IQ in the above post...

Also when did I ever treat IQ as an end all be all? It seems to me like I just asked a question. Although if you want to go down that path, people with higher IQs make more money and generally lead more succesful and varied lives.

I don't have any statistics on the matter. I don't think it'd be a stretch to say that white people are on average more succesful than blacks though. Obviously when I say succesful I'm speaking financially.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Hmm fair point, I don't really know the statisitcs on Jewish practitioners and their politics in other countries. Liberals have higher IQs universally though it seems regardless of country or place of origin.

nocoolnamejim

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Hmm fair point, I don't really know the statisitcs on Jewish practitioners and their politics in other countries. Liberals have higher IQs universally though it seems regardless of country or place of origin.

nocoolnamejim

I am a zionist. But I believe we can live in peace with the arabs. And maybe smang all their hot girls lmao

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

First of all I don't see how work ethic correlates to a persons intelligence, secondly if you read the thread you'll see that he was discussing IQ in the above post...

Also when did I ever treat IQ as an end all be all? It seems to me like I just asked a question. Although if you want to go down that path, people with higher IQs make more money and generally lead more succesful and varied lives.

TacticalDesire

I don't have any statistics on the matter. I don't think it'd be a stretch to say that white people are on average more succesful than blacks though. Obviously when I say succesful I'm speaking financially.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="kraychik"] You and I are guilty of chasing this leftist down a rabbit hole that he started digging. Rather than address the substance of the discussion, which clearly demonstrates the cognitive dissonance of Sun-Tzu's anti-Zionist political thinkers that he admires with his self-proclaimed Labour-Zionist sympathies, TacticalDesire and Ace6301 want to pick up on a joke that upsets their liberal sensibilities. They're desperate to attack me with anything they can grasp at, since they can't challenge the substance of Darkman007's original, and 100% correct, calling out of Sun-Tzu's hypocrisy. kraychik

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] thats not quite true, it depends on the country in question. in the US, Jews are mostly liberal , but in other countries thats not necessarily true.Darkman2007

Hmm fair point, I don't really know the statisitcs on Jewish practitioners and their politics in other countries. Liberals have higher IQs universally though it seems regardless of country or place of origin.

Well IQ stands for intelligence quotient. What it truly measures is up for debate, but that's for an entirely different thread.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="kraychik"]

I don't hate leftists. I just acknowledge them as a force of nature in the current political landscape - and I wreck them in discussions when I feel like it. None of you leftists can hold a candle to me on a substantive debate on any these issues, that much is clear. Sun-Tzu, you claim to be Jewish - are you a Zionist?

Darkman2007

if you share the views of the people you mentioned, then you cannot be a Zionist of any kind. if you do not share their views , then its something else

and yes, the far left generally hates Jews as a people,

The left hates strong identification in general, that leads to "we're better than you, our blood is more valuable" thinking.

Which I understand would be a dangerous idea in Israel because the whole state is built on the idea that only Jews matter.

Leftists think "people are people, everybody should have a voice and a stake in the system."

To answer the thread my favorite leftist is Michael Moore, I think he's brilliant.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] The labor zionist movement helped make Israel into what it is today. I think it's pretty arrogant to just dismiss them outright as not being Zionists. Some of the greatest leaders in Israel's history identified with the labor movement. -Sun_Tzu-

youre missing the point, what Im saying is that if you support or share the views of some those people who you mentioned before, then you cannot be a Zionist, Labour or otherwise.

I actually have alot of respect for Ben Gurion and Dayan

srsly though my favorite leftist is probably Göran Persson. Look him up and then get back to me

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="kraychik"] You and I are guilty of chasing this leftist down a rabbit hole that he started digging. Rather than address the substance of the discussion, which clearly demonstrates the cognitive dissonance of Sun-Tzu's anti-Zionist political thinkers that he admires with his self-proclaimed Labour-Zionist sympathies, TacticalDesire and Ace6301 want to pick up on a joke that upsets their liberal sensibilities. They're desperate to attack me with anything they can grasp at, since they can't challenge the substance of Darkman007's original, and 100% correct, calling out of Sun-Tzu's hypocrisy. TacticalDesire

I don't think I'm personally attacking anyone just referring to a study that doesn't seem to suit Kray.