[QUOTE="Vader993"]Suntzu who is the guy in your avatar?kingkong0124Amare Stoudermire.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Yes, I would describe myself as a labor zionist. ZombieKiller7
if you share the views of the people you mentioned, then you cannot be a Zionist of any kind. if you do not share their views , then its something else
and yes, the far left generally hates Jews as a people,
The left hates strong identification in general, that leads to "we're better than you, our blood is more valuable" thinking.
Which I understand would be a dangerous idea in Israel because the whole state is built on the idea that only Jews matter.
Leftists think "people are people, everybody should have a voice and a stake in the system."
To answer the thread my favorite leftist is Michael Moore, I think he's brilliant.
youre slightly wrong, in Israel its not "only the Jews matter" , its "the Jews should care about the Jews first, just like the Germans care about themselves first, for instance( sadly Jews didn't apply that philosophy for the last 1900 years,and I wreck them in discussions when I feel like it.kraychik
No, you do not; you are a handicap. Please stop it.
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="kraychik"] Another example of you being an anti-Zionist. The "one-state solution" essentially means the destruction of Israel as the Jewish state. It's funny how leftists like you redefine terms, at what you're wishing for is entirely anti-Zionistic, yet you still self-identify as a Zionist. Sort of like leftist "human rights advocates" who are entirely anti-human rights. It's hilarious. Darkman2007 already called you out on the first example of your doublethink (admiring anti-Zionists yet still self-describing as a Zionist). Cognitive dissonance at its best. You leftists are hilarious and so easy to destroy.Darkman2007I am not afraid of multiculturalism, if that's what you mean by Israel's supposed "destruction." I don't think that a two state solution is viable, and the status quo is certainly not sustainable. That leaves only one option on the table. Is it an ideal option? Not at all, but if Israel is to exist as a homeland for Jews in the future that might be the capacity in which it will have to exist. Otherwise I don't see how it could exist in any capacity other than an apartheid state. And if a one-state solution cannot work then maybe the Zionist project in the middle east might be unworkable. I certainly wish her well, but as Herlz pointed out, there is also Argentina. it does mean Israel's destruction , thats like saying Britian will still be the Britian if every person in France and Germany went to live there. there are really only 2 options, either a 2 state solution , or a one state solution as envisioned by Israel's extreme right (ie, the one where all the Palestinians are in Jordan ) , Ill let you pick which one. Wait, wait... it's not destruction. It's "multiculturalism". See, when you're a leftist you get redefine everything and manufacture feel-good terms.
[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I meant work ethic often contributes to what we perceive as intelligence, sorry. I don't think you have evidence about your last statement...So, you would say basically that White people are smarter, and thus more successful than Blacks? Because this is essentially what you're trying to say to me.
kingkong0124
I don't have any statistics on the matter. I don't think it'd be a stretch to say that white people are on average more succesful than blacks though. Obviously when I say succesful I'm speaking financially.
So, according to you, White people are smarter than Blacks in terms of pure intelligence?...I haven't seen a study done on the matter, but I would guess that more intelligent blacks are more succesful in overcoming the obstacles in their path compared to those who aren't as smart. I mean when you see an individual like Neil Degrasse Tyson...that guy is lights out brilliant, so I'd have a hard time believing African Americans are really less intelligent overall.
What is Banjo doing?Jazz_FanI am of the opinion that Banjo et. amigos are not as literate as kraychik.
[QUOTE="kraychik"] and I wreck them in discussions when I feel like it.coolbeans90
No, you do not; you are a handicap. Please stop it.
Oh look, the resident tosser is being condescending again, but to disabled people this time.[QUOTE="kraychik"] and I wreck them in discussions when I feel like it.coolbeans90
No, you do not; you are a handicap. Please stop it.
Bro, c'mon, don't use that language.[QUOTE="coolbeans90"][QUOTE="kraychik"] and I wreck them in discussions when I feel like it.kingkong0124
No, you do not; you are a handicap. Please stop it.
Bro, c'mon, don't use that language. Yeah like where are we anyway??The left hates strong identification in general, that leads to "we're better than you, our blood is more valuable" thinking.ZombieKiller7Good point, the left hates human nature. What is the closest and most fundamental unit of humanity? The family. After that, it dilutes into concentric circles varying between groups and individuals. For some the next circle is religion, or state, or colour, or ethnicity, political association, or even professional association. This is how the world was built and the left is constantly trying to fight against this principle through ideological indoctrination. The left ALSO fears strong identities because they are more resistant to the coercion of the state in order to force homogeneity and loyalty to the central powers (i.e. Nazism, Communism, Islamism). Strong identities are harder to bully into submission and destroy. Unfortunately, some on the left, which clearly includes you, likens strong identities (national, religious, etc) with proclivity for hatred or animosity towards others. Nothing could be further from the truth. Feeling a sense of unique, special, and stronger connection to others belonging to your group doesn't weaken us, it strengthens us. It doesn't lead to a hatred of non-members of the group. Think of this for a moment, if I love my family more than GameSpot forum participants, does that mean I hate people who aren't members of my family or wish ill-will towards them? Various groups of people have stronger associations between one another than with those outside the group, this is nothing to fear or to fight.
This is quite simplistic and stupid.Which I understand would be a dangerous idea in Israel because the whole state is built on the idea that only Jews matter.
Of course Moore is a socialist idiot AND a liar. But that's besides the point. Watch him here refuse to answer a simple question from Sean Hannity and refuse to state that he is part of "the 1%" and a multi-millionaire. Fast forward to 4:35 and watch this idiot (that you think is brilliant) refuse to simply tell the truth and speak candidly in order to preserve his false persona as the everyman Joe Blow.Leftists think "people are people, everybody should have a voice and a stake in the system."
To answer the thread my favorite leftist is Michael Moore, I think he's brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS0mQ25ezq4
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]Bro, c'mon, don't use that language. Yeah like where are we anyway?? In a place where gays are championed but it's okay use "handicap" as an insult. OT is so backwards. It's unbelievable.No, you do not; you are a handicap. Please stop it.
themajormayor
Good point, the left hates human nature. What is the closest and most fundamental unit of humanity? The family. After that, it dilutes into concentric circles varying between groups and individuals. For some the next circle is religion, or state, or colour, or ethnicity, political association, or even professional association. This is how the world was built and the left is constantly trying to fight against this principle through ideological indoctrination. The left ALSO fears strong identities because they are more resistant to the coercion of the state in order to force homogeneity and loyalty to the central powers (i.e. Nazism, Communism, Islamism). Strong identities are harder to bully into submission and destroy. Unfortunately, some on the left, which clearly includes you, likens strong identities (national, religious, etc) with proclivity for hatred or animosity towards others. Nothing could be further from the truth. Feeling a sense of unique, special, and stronger connection to others belonging to your group doesn't weaken us, it strengthens us. It doesn't lead to a hatred of non-members of the group. Think of this for a moment, if I love my family more than GameSpot forum participants, does that mean I hate people who aren't members of my family or wish ill-will towards them? Various groups of people have stronger associations between one another than with those outside the group, this is nothing to fear or to fight.[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]The left hates strong identification in general, that leads to "we're better than you, our blood is more valuable" thinking.kraychik
This is quite simplistic and stupid.Which I understand would be a dangerous idea in Israel because the whole state is built on the idea that only Jews matter.
Of course Moore is a socialist idiot AND a liar. But that's besides the point. Watch him here refuse to answer a simple question from Sean Hannity and refuse to state that he is part of "the 1%" and a multi-millionaire. Fast forward to 4:35 and watch this idiot (that you think is brilliant) refuse to simply tell the truth and speak candidly in order to preserve his false persona as the everyman Joe Blow.Leftists think "people are people, everybody should have a voice and a stake in the system."
To answer the thread my favorite leftist is Michael Moore, I think he's brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS0mQ25ezq4
You linked to a music soundtrack Mr. Brilliant.
[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]The left hates strong identification in general, that leads to "we're better than you, our blood is more valuable" thinking.kraychikGood point, the left hates human nature. What is the closest and most fundamental unit of humanity? The family. After that, it dilutes into concentric circles varying between groups and individuals. For some the next circle is religion, or state, or colour, or ethnicity, political association, or even professional association. This is how the world was built and the left is constantly trying to fight against this principle through ideological indoctrination. The left ALSO fears strong identities because they are more resistant to the coercion of the state in order to force homogeneity and loyalty to the central powers (i.e. Nazism, Communism, Islamism). Strong identities are harder to bully into submission and destroy. Unfortunately, some on the left, which clearly includes you, likens strong identities (national, religious, etc) with proclivity for hatred or animosity towards others. Nothing could be further from the truth. Feeling a sense of unique, special, and stronger connection to others belonging to your group doesn't weaken us, it strengthens us. It doesn't lead to a hatred of non-members of the group. Think of this for a moment, if I love my family more than GameSpot forum participants, does that mean I hate people who aren't members of my family or wish ill-will towards them? Various groups of people have stronger associations between one another than with those outside the group, this is nothing to fear or to fight.
This is quite simplistic and stupid.Which I understand would be a dangerous idea in Israel because the whole state is built on the idea that only Jews matter.
Of course Moore is a socialist idiot AND a liar. But that's besides the point. Watch him here refuse to answer a simple question from Sean Hannity and refuse to state that he is part of "the 1%" and a multi-millionaire. Fast forward to 4:35 and watch this idiot (that you think is brilliant) refuse to simply tell the truth and speak candidly in order to preserve his false persona as the everyman Joe Blow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS0mQ25ezq4 Oh, I love Michael Moore. Your typical fat*** liberal. Sits on his ass all day eating McDonalds and reaping the benefits of a major, transnational corportation. also, he has been rewarded from the capitalist system and is speaking against it, the true definition of a hypocrite.Leftists think "people are people, everybody should have a voice and a stake in the system."
To answer the thread my favorite leftist is Michael Moore, I think he's brilliant.
[QUOTE="kraychik"]Is Sun-Tzu engaging in cognitive dissonance by admiring Naomi Klein, Amy Goodman, and Rosa Luxemberg and then subsequently self-identifying as a Labour-Zionist who supports the "one-state solution" for the "Palestinian"-Israeli conflict? A simple yes or no answer will suffice. Honestly I haven't read a single one of suns posts this topic. He doesn't make me laugh. The situation you're describing doesn't explicitly point to hypocrisy though as it's entirely possible to believe someone has the right idea on one thing and isn't correct on another. As I don't know the stances he appreciates of those people I can't comment as assumptions are a rather rude thing to make in a polite discussion (which, to be frank, you seem to have zero intent on having given your opening post). Translation - I can't or won't answer the question. Seriously though, why not just admit massive ignorance over the issues being discussed. As if we expect a Gentile like you to be familiar with the concepts of Zionism and the history of the Israel-Arab conflict. It's nothing to be ashamed of. I wouldn't pretend to be familiar with, say, Irish history or whatever Gentile heritage you may have. Its too funny how you cant just be honest and say, "I don't understand the conversation you folks are having". Instead, you need to resort to infantile like jibes.[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Translation - I am madAce6301
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"][QUOTE="kraychik"] and I wreck them in discussions when I feel like it.kingkong0124
No, you do not; you are a handicap. Please stop it.
Bro, c'mon, don't use that language.Forgive my juvenile tongue.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] In a place where gays are championed but it's okay use "handicap" as an insult. OT is so backwards. It's unbelievable.SolidSnake35Yeah talk about hypocrites. Who said being handicapped is a handicap?? Only xenophobic racists The word handicap is offensive in itself to disabled people...
I prefer differently advantaged :P.
Kraychik is all kinds of awesome! We should give him a blackboard, tons of chalk, a camera, and then just watch him go.
Bro, c'mon, don't use that language.[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
No, you do not; you are a handicap. Please stop it.
coolbeans90
Forgive my juvenile tongue.
It's all good, you're still my homie.[QUOTE="coolbeans90"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Bro, c'mon, don't use that language. kingkong0124
Forgive my juvenile tongue.
It's all good, you're still my homie.Coolbeans is totally smangalicious. I listen to egyptian music when I think of him
themajormayor
nice, I think of this.
[QUOTE="kraychik"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS0mQ25ezq4coolbeans90
Have we been trolled?
I'm definitely still open to the thought. Or it could be he was just testing to see if liberal drones bother looking at his links anymore.[QUOTE="themajormayor"]
Coolbeans is totally smangalicious. I listen to egyptian music when I think of him
kingkong0124
nice, I think of this.
HOOW???[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]
Coolbeans is totally smangalicious. I listen to egyptian music when I think of him
themajormayor
nice, I think of this.
HOOW??? he gets my heart racing and makes me go round and round[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]HOOW??? he gets my heart racing and makes me go round and round he gets other stuff of mine to raise ...nice, I think of this.
kingkong0124
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