Who would win in a war? Canada VS Russia

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#201 Danm_999
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It was in Canadian territory......1812 was fought by Canadians. Some of the British Empire was located in Europe I believe..Would that make the British Empire European/Asian? Everyone knows it was fought by America and Canada.Vilot_Hero

No.

All the major commanders were BRITISH or from the United States, except for Gordon Drummond. It was British troops which burnt the White House.

The British forces were about 50 000 in numbers by the end of the war, provincial troops (ie, Canadians) only made up around 10 000 troops.

The navy was almost completely British too.

How you think this war was fought by Canadians, and not the British, and how you think something which happened 200 years ago qualifies Canada to beat the world's second greatest military power is beyond me.

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#202 I_pWnzz_YoU
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Canada for sure. We'd assault them with all the firepower have. That being beavers, maple syrup and Kokanee.
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#203 Love-Bank
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Canada for sure. We'd assault them with all the firepower have. That being beavers, maple syrup and Kokanee.I_pWnzz_YoU
And hockey sticks
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#204 Vilot_Hero
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I'm going by what I learned in school. Maybe they taught you something different when it came to 1812??Does the American education system teach about Canadian history?

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#205 Love-Bank
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I'm going by what I learned in school. Maybe they taught you something different when it came to 1812??Does the American education system teach about Canadian history?

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Why are you ignoring me yo?? Arent you going to Afghanistan?
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#206 Vilot_Hero
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This topic has no room for Afghanistan. It is about Russia and Canada.

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#207 BaraChat
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[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]Canada for sure. We'd assault them with all the firepower have. That being beavers, maple syrup and Kokanee.Love-Bank
And hockey sticks

A hockey sticks-pucks combination would be deadly. The only problem is that Russians are as good as Canadians (almost!) when it comes to hockey.

Let's just fight on a hockey rink.... 1972 all over again... 

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#208 Danm_999
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I'm going by what I learned in school. Maybe they taught you something different when it came to 1812??Does the American education system teach about Canadian history?

Vilot_Hero

I'm also going by what I was taught in school, which wasn't an American or Canadian school, so you can't play the cultural bias card or the 'American-education-sucks' card.

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#209 I_pWnzz_YoU
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[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]Canada for sure. We'd assault them with all the firepower have. That being beavers, maple syrup and Kokanee.Love-Bank
And hockey sticks

Oh snap I almost forgot teh hockey stickz! :o

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#210 Jacobistheman
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I'm going by what I learned in school. Maybe they taught you something different when it came to 1812??Does the American education system teach about Canadian history?

Vilot_Hero
What does the war of 1812 have to do with anything, the british lost that war, and the canadian forces were part of britain. Canada would lose, Russia still has the worlds second or third largest military, and has a bunch of oil money. They have nukes, way more troops, and way more equipment. Canada couldn't win. Russia invading would be like america invading, except that russia doesn't care if a bunch of people die and what the rest of the world says.
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#211 Love-Bank
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This topic has no room for Afghanistan. It is about Russia and Canada.

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So this is also a joke topic just like that one?
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#212 Vilot_Hero
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Which education system is incorrect about Canadian history??Canada or America?
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#213 chester706
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1 on 1 ground war Russia would obliterate Canada and thats just in a ground war.
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#214 Love-Bank
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Which education system is incorrect about Canadian history??Canada or America?Vilot_Hero
You just said this topic is only about Canada and russia.:|
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#215 Vilot_Hero
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We're all heading off topic with the 1812 war, so Let's leave it at that....Canada/British Empire won that war against America. I still think Canada can defeat Russia in a war. Canada probably has more combat experience than Russia.
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#216 Love-Bank
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We're all heading off topic with the 1812 war, so Let's leave it at that....Canada/British Empire won that war against America. I still think Canada can defeat Russia in a war. Canada probably has more combat experience than Russia.Vilot_Hero
:| Joke topic confirmed.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]It was in Canadian territory......1812 was fought by Canadians. Some of the British Empire was located in Europe I believe..Would that make the British Empire European/Asian? Everyone knows it was fought by America and Canada.fidosim

You're making me facepalm over here. 1812 was fought by British troops stationed in modern-day Canada. The "Canadians" you're referring to were British subjects, loyal to the British Crown. And are you not aware of the extent of the British Empire at that point and the extent they reached in the 19th century?

I facepalmed about 10 times this thread. This is a total joke. 1. The War of 1812 even IF it was fought by Canada would prove nothing of its military today. 2. The War of 1812 was fought between Britain and the US resulting in a British victory. I am an American. Dont know what they teach you up in Canada but clearly its wrong.
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#218 Jacobistheman
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We're all heading off topic with the 1812 war, so Let's leave it at that....Canada/British Empire won that war against America. I still think Canada can defeat Russia in a war. Canada probably has more combat experience than Russia.Vilot_Hero
No america won the war of 1812, the british got defeated and left. Also do you have any idea how many wars russia has fought over the last 100 years, they have way more combat experience. They basicly won WW2, and have won numerous other wars.
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#219 Danm_999
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We're all heading off topic with the 1812 war, so Let's leave it at that....Canada/British Empire won that war against America. I still think Canada can defeat Russia in a war. Vilot_Hero

No, we were taught it was a stalemate. You really can't claim it was a victory by the Canadians either, the British did most of the work.

Canada probably has more combat experience than Russia.Vilot_Hero

Ok, now I know your joking.

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#220 chester706
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]We're all heading off topic with the 1812 war, so Let's leave it at that....Canada/British Empire won that war against America. I still think Canada can defeat Russia in a war. Canada probably has more combat experience than Russia.Love-Bank
:| Joke topic confirmed.

A facepalm cannot even justify this. This is horribly dillusional beyond anything.
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Canada fought in 1812, Cold War, Korean War, WW1, WW2(fought on the beaches like the Americans did), Gulf War, Afghanistan and I'm missing plenty of others, but Canada has a stong military backround.
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#222 Jacobistheman
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Canada fought in 1812, Cold War, Korean War, WW1, WW2(fought on the beaches like the Americans did), Gulf War, Afghanistan and I'm missing plenty of others, but Canada has a stong military backround.Vilot_Hero
And you think that russia has fought in lots of wars, they actually had to do stuff in the battles they fought, Canada has always had Great Britain, of the US to take a lead, Russia is always on thier own, and almost always wins (other than in Afganastan in the 80s)
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#223 fidosim
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Canada fought in 1812, Cold War, Korean War, WW1, WW2(fought on the beaches like the Americans did), Gulf War, Afghanistan and I'm missing plenty of others, but Canada has a stong military backround.Vilot_Hero

It's in no way comparable to that of the Russians though. The Russians basically know war better than they know peace. Look at their entire history.

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#224 Danm_999
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Canada fought in 1812, Cold War, Korean War, WW1, WW2(fought on the beaches like the Americans did), Gulf War, Afghanistan and I'm missing plenty of others, but Canada has a stong military backround.Vilot_Hero

Canada's military background is NOTHING compared to RUssia's. Russia has had single conflicts that have involved and destroyed more money, men and land than all Canada's wars combined.

Since 1812:

They fought Napoleon in both Central Europe and on their own soil and won.

They pacified revolutions in Eastern Europe during the 1848 revolutions.

They fought the French and the British in the Crimean War.

They fought the Turks in the 1870s.

They fought the Japanese in 1905.

They fought in WW1 for 3 years.

They then fought an extremely bloody civil war, in which Western powers intervened their soil.

They fought an undeclared civil war against their peasants and rebel factions, culminating in dekulakisation and the Great Terror.

They fought Germany in WW2, again beating a power which invaded them and did incredibly damage. This event was all that stopped them fighting each other.

They fought in China during WW2, defeating the Japanese forces and Chiang Kai-Shek's Nationalists.

They built their military to insane heights to match the United States during the Cold War, occupying most of Eastern Europe, including Germany.

They several times nearly went to war with China once the two fell out.

They invaded Afghanistan in 1979.

They invaded Georgia this year.

 

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#225 Vilot_Hero
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Canada defeated America, so I'm sure they can defeat Russia. Russia has good military backround, but I still think Canada prevails more.

EDIT: Russia didn't win all of those battles, and the number of battles are close to each other. Did Russia take down America in 1812? Not a chance.

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Canada fought in 1812, Cold War, Korean War, WW1, WW2(fought on the beaches like the Americans did), Gulf War, Afghanistan and I'm missing plenty of others, but Canada has a stong military backround.Vilot_Hero

The Canadian military is a shadow of it's former self. It would get creamed in a one-on-one confrontation with Russia.

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#227 Danm_999
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Canada defeated America, so I'm sure they can defeat Russia. Russia has good military backround, but I still think Canada prevails more.

Vilot_Hero

Again, not only did Canada not defeat America (the British Empire, using British troops and the British Navy did, not provincial armies or provincial navies did the vast majority of the fighting in the US), but even if they did it's irrelevent.

It was 200 years, and it was with the world's biggest superpower, Britain, on their side before America had industrialised.

Please, for the sake of everybody's sanity, read up a bit more on history before you try debating it.

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#228 Jacobistheman
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Canada defeated America, so I'm sure they can defeat Russia. Russia has good military backround, but I still think Canada prevails more.

Vilot_Hero

Ok whatever you say, the "defeted" (if they won why is america not ruled by Great Britain Still)america almost 200 years ago, while they were still rude by great britain, in a war that was fought mainly by Britian, and so they can defeate Russia now.

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#229 fidosim
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Canada defeated America, so I'm sure they can defeat Russia. Russia has good military backround, but I still think Canada prevails more.

EDIT: Russia didn't win all of those battles, and the number of battles are close to each other. Did Russia take down America in 1812? Not a chance.

Vilot_Hero

You're a broken record of false information.

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#230 Vilot_Hero
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If Russia has such a great military, then why did Afghanistan defeat them?
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#231 dsmccracken
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Canada defeated America, so I'm sure they can defeat Russia. Russia has good military backround, but I still think Canada prevails more.

EDIT: Russia didn't win all of those battles, and the number of battles are close to each other. Did Russia take down America in 1812? Not a chance.

Vilot_Hero

Britain defeated America in your example... a long, long time ago. Do you actually think that Canada could defeat the US now?

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#232 chester706
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Canada fought in 1812, Cold War, Korean War, WW1, WW2(fought on the beaches like the Americans did), Gulf War, Afghanistan and I'm missing plenty of others, but Canada has a stong military backround.Danm_999

Canada's military background is NOTHING compared to RUssia's. Russia has had single conflicts that have involved and destroyed more money, men and land than all Canada's wars combined.

Since 1812:

They fought Napoleon in both Central Europe and on their own soil and won.

They pacified revolutions in Eastern Europe during the 1848 revolutions.

They fought the French and the British in the Crimean War.

They fought the Turks in the 1870s.

They fought the Japanese in 1905.

They fought in WW1 for 3 years.

They then fought an extremely bloody civil war, in which Western powers intervened their soil.

They fought an undeclared civil war against their peasants and rebel factions, culminating in dekulakisation and the Great Terror.

They fought Germany in WW2, again beating a power which invaded them and did incredibly damage. This event was all that stopped them fighting each other.

They fought in China during WW2, defeating the Japanese forces and Chiang Kai-Shek's Nationalists.

They built their military to insane heights to match the United States during the Cold War, occupying most of Eastern Europe, including Germany.

They several times nearly went to war with China once the two fell out.

They invaded Afghanistan in 1979.

They invaded Georgia this year.

 

/thread. Also the Eastern Front in WWII was the most bloody front in history if I am not mistaken.
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#233 dsmccracken
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If Russia has such a great military, then why did Afghanistan defeat them?Vilot_Hero

The wore them out, but it wasn't a defeat along the lines of Afghanis marching through downtown Moscow, and supping on Shish Kebabs in the Kremlin. The US "lost" Vietnam, but no one truly believes that the Viet Cong defeated America in the traditional sense of the word.

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#234 Vilot_Hero
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I may not be the smartest person in the world(I'm very smart at science), but I do know alot of history....Like the Canadian Confederation, and plenty more. But that's going off topic.
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#235 chester706
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

Canada defeated America, so I'm sure they can defeat Russia. Russia has good military backround, but I still think Canada prevails more.

Danm_999

Again, not only did Canada not defeat America (the British Empire, using British troops and the British Navy did, not provincial armies or provincial navies did the vast majority of the fighting in the US), but even if they did it's irrelevent.

It was 200 years, and it was with the world's biggest superpower, Britain, on their side before America had industrialised.

Please, for the sake of everybody's sanity, read up a bit more on history before you try debating it.

Once again. /thead.
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#236 thusaha
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Russia would win, I guess.
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#237 Vilot_Hero
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America failed what they were suppose to do in Vietnam....That's a defeat in my book.
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#238 Danm_999
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If Russia has such a great military, then why did Afghanistan defeat them?Vilot_Hero

I'll give you a hint.

The year they began withdrawing, 1988, something pretty important happened in Russia.

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#239 Jacobistheman
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If Russia has such a great military, then why did Afghanistan defeat them?Vilot_Hero
The same reason that the US, Canada , and every other countie in Afganastan can't control it, the same reason that the US and France in Vietnam, and the Europeans lost control of Africa, South America and North America, and Asia.
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#240 Vilot_Hero
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Russia's invasion of Georgia isn't that impressive compared to their past military wars.
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#241 Jacobistheman
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America failed what they were suppose to do in Vietnam....That's a defeat in my book. Vilot_Hero
You are talking about uncoventional wars, if canada fought russia, it would be as convetioanl as it gets
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#242 Danm_999
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Russia's invasion of Georgia isn't that impressive compared to their past military wars.Vilot_Hero

Stop running off on tangents.

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#243 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]America failed what they were suppose to do in Vietnam....That's a defeat in my book. Jacobistheman
You are talking about uncoventional wars, if canada fought russia, it would be as convetioanl as it gets

Exactly, Vietnam and Afghanistan were occupations which descended into guerilla warfare.

Canada would fight directly, and it would lose.

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#244 Jacobistheman
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Russia's invasion of Georgia isn't that impressive compared to their past military wars.Danm_999

Stop running off on tangents.

Well they basicly took over the countrie as fast as they could drive, that is impressive, And yes a lot of thier past wars are way more impressive than that.

 

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#245 Vilot_Hero
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Let's all agree that Canada can defeat Russia....Canada has the combat experience of 1812 and alot of other wars.
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#246 Jacobistheman
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Let's all agree that Canada can defeat Russia....Canada has the combat experience of 1812 and alot of other wars.Vilot_Hero
Everyone here disagrees with you, how could we all agree on that.

I am not sure if you missed the list of russias wars, it was way longer.

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#247 dsmccracken
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Let's all agree that Canada can defeat Russia....Canada has the combat experience of 1812 and alot of other wars.Vilot_Hero

I no longer believe that this is a legitimate argument, so I'm gone. I recommend everyone else do the same.

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#248 fidosim
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Let's all agree that Canada can defeat Russia....Canada has the combat experience of 1812 and alot of other wars.Vilot_Hero

Please....just...please....

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#249 Vilot_Hero
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What's with all the hate for Canada?

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#250 Jacobistheman
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What's with all the hate for Canada?

Vilot_Hero
So we hate Canada because we understand that Russia has a way more powerful military, I guess I hate everywhere in the world other than the US and Isrial because they are the only ones that could beat Russia in a convetional war.