Who's fault is obesity?

Generally individuals are responsible, but society could do so much to encourage better eating.Elraptor

I would love to say the person eatting the food, but that isn't always the case. Eatting healthy is a lot more expensive that eatting unhealthy. Some people just can't afford to eat healthy.AmazonTreeBoa

I'm sick of that excuse. Healthy food is not more expensive, it just takes more effort. Eating at mcdonalds, kfc, taco bell, etc is NEVER cheaper then buying food at the grocery store.

TBH im not fat so i like having the advantage over fat people, unless they have a condition it thier fault

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]I would love to say the person eatting the food, but that isn't always the case. Eatting healthy is a lot more expensive that eatting unhealthy. Some people just can't afford to eat healthy.STAR_Admiral

I'm sick of that excuse. Healthy food is not more expensive, it just takes more effort. Eating at mcdonalds, kfc, taco bell, etc is NEVER cheaper then buying food at the grocery store.

[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]I would love to say the person eatting the food, but that isn't always the case. Eatting healthy is a lot more expensive that eatting unhealthy. Some people just can't afford to eat healthy.AmazonTreeBoa

I'm sick of that excuse. Healthy food is not more expensive, it just takes more effort. Eating at mcdonalds, kfc, taco bell, etc is NEVER cheaper then buying food at the grocery store.

I blame it on the lack of jobs. When there is no money to go to the grocery store for healthy foods, the cheapest food is fast food. Also, if you are bored constantly during the day without a job, you tend to want to get out and go do something. That something involves eating. There was a thread made about this too about how people eat when they are bored. Plausible.3eyedrazorback

grocery store is not more expensive then fast food. I make my own breakfast lunch and dinner at home almost virtually every day. If i ate those meals at even the cheapest of fast food joints, my monthly food bill would at least double.

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I blame it on the lack of jobs. When there is no money to go to the grocery store for healthy foods, the cheapest food is fast food. Also, if you are bored constantly during the day without a job, you tend to want to get out and go do something. That something involves eating. There was a thread made about this too about how people eat when they are bored. Plausible.STAR_Admiral

grocery store is not more expensive then fast food.

[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I blame it on the lack of jobs. When there is no money to go to the grocery store for healthy foods, the cheapest food is fast food. Also, if you are bored constantly during the day without a job, you tend to want to get out and go do something. That something involves eating. There was a thread made about this too about how people eat when they are bored. Plausible.3eyedrazorback

grocery store is not more expensive then fast food.

]It's both more and less expensive. It's difficult to buy small, single serving portions at the supermarkets (using the hamburger example, they don't really sell individual buns). However, if you buy a pound or so of chopmeat, a pack of buns, a head of lettuce, a tomato, etc, you spend more at the register, but you end up having more food.Planet_Pluto

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]]It's both more and less expensive. It's difficult to buy small, single serving portions at the supermarkets (using the hamburger example, they don't really sell individual buns). However, if you buy a pound or so of chopmeat, a pack of buns, a head of lettuce, a tomato, etc, you spend more at the register, but you end up having more food.3eyedrazorback

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"] Really? ordering a combo at mcdonalds is cheaper then going to the grocery store, buying a bag of fries, some chicken, lettuce, tomatoes, some hamburger buns, and w/e else you'd like?, and then making the food yourself at home? What grocery store do you shop at?

I'm sick of that excuse. Healthy food is not more expensive, it just takes more effort. Eating at mcdonalds, kfc, taco bell, etc is NEVER cheaper then buying food at the grocery store.

STAR_Admiral

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I blame it on the lack of jobs. When there is no money to go to the grocery store for healthy foods, the cheapest food is fast food. Also, if you are bored constantly during the day without a job, you tend to want to get out and go do something. That something involves eating. There was a thread made about this too about how people eat when they are bored. Plausible.STAR_Admiral

grocery store is not more expensive then fast food. I make my own breakfast lunch and dinner at home almost virtually every day. If i ate those meals at even the cheapest of fast food joints, my monthly food bill would at least double.

I think we live in a society where people have difficulty taking responsibility for their own actions.

'Murrica.

Yours. You are the one who choose to fill your face with the fatty foods and not choosing to exercise. Also, news flash. Canadian Bacon actually isn't Canadian... One thing you can blame on the companies is that they knowingly put stuff into the foods and drinks that makes you addicted to it, as well as putting low-quality products/additives that have effects on your body like giving you cancer.Deihjan

Yourself.

its a combination of weak self-control, laziness, cheap food and advertising

It's a growing epidemic. People like to make fun of the "fat american" stereotype, but obesity rates are going up throughout the world and at alarming rates. Obviously people's genes havent changed, so what is the cause of all this fatness.

I typically put the blame on the person, but is it that simple? Portion sizes are increasing. It's hard to go anywhere and order a sensible meal. Food is avaialable in high caloric and low nutritional forms. So do you blame the food companies like McDonald's or are they just giving people what they want? Do you blame the parents and other adults for not teaching their kids better eating habits? Do you blame Canadians for having canadian bacon and maple syrup?

sonicare

It's the people. You can point the finger at whoever you like, but in the end, a lack of activity and a poor diet are things that the individual has direct control over. I'm overweight right now. It's not getting out of hand, but I know I am by medical standards overweight. I'm working out more. I walk to class. I try not to drink soda/beer every single day. These things help keep my weight under control. My diet is pretty bad but I tend to offset it by eating fewer meals (which is dumb, don't do that) or just working out.

One of my friends is over 300 pounds and she's a girl. She is obese and that's the way she is. Her and her bf go through a 12 pack of soda in 2 days. If she doesn't change her lifestyle, she faces serious risks of dying at an early age or going to the hospital for emergencies. But it's her life. I'm not going to control it for her and they like each other the way they are.

Obesity is a choice. I didn't just develop an allergy to dogs or grow into asthma, these were things I was born with and can't alter. There's a difference.

It starts at home, so until the child is mature enoug to realize what they're doing to they're body, it's their parents. After that it's the person themself. I would say schools play a part in as well, because I know schools (at least in my area) are cutting out recess and the food isn't getting much healthier at least somewhat counteract the reduced activity time.

I blame the parents.

Parents need to educate their children on good eating habits, and if you as a parent are ignorant on good eating habits your kids will be heading in the same route.

You can't let a child choose what they want to eat, because lets be realistic, kids generally only want to eat 'junk' chicken nuggets, candy, soda etc...

In the case of children: the parents. Adults, well lack of self control towards food can be blamed. You don't need to have two pieces of everything...even if it is good.

[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] I know that I'm saying it is the fault of parents... If you move out at 20 and you're obese and lazy due to being raised poorly... you get 20 years of laziness... It is possible to suddenly get fat after living an otherwise healthy life but chances are you gain 10 - 15 pounds a year over the span if 10 years... and like I said it is possible to change but most people only change enough to keep that weight and not lose it...

jeremiah06

I remember being 15. I remember thinking for myself at that age too. I just don't think you could blame the parents for a kid being obese. Unless the kid wants to be obese, even at a young age healthy eating is not rocket science.

You almost make it sound like parents are forcing big macs down their child's throats!

Being born into Gangland is one thing. Not only is it a different ballpark, it's not even the same game.

If a person looks at themselves and says. "Wow I'm fat and want to lose weight but Big Macs are all I know." It's thier fault for not using that grey matter in their head to think for themselves and do something about it.

You could never convince me that a 250 pound person has anyone other than themselves to blame for being fat.

EDIT: And something that could be a closer comparison is smoking. I've been smoking since I was 11, my best friend was the one that had access to them. From day one it's always been my choice if I smoke or not.

For me to ever blame anyone else because I put a cigarette in my mouth would be blasphemy. Same goes for fat people eating Big Mac's

I blame healthy food.

If it tasted good more people would eat it.

I blame healthy food.

If it tasted good more people would eat it.

kraken2109

Energy in>Energy out. Derp. I love when we go through this crap about what's causing it, who's fault is it, what can we do about it...whatever. You can become fat whilst being extremely active every day, and become rail thin sitting on your ass. It's all dependent upon intake vs burned...that is all. Nothing about "unhealthy" and "healthy" about it. Quantity rules.The_Zoid

You forgot to add the variable, metabolism.

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

I blame healthy food.

If it tasted good more people would eat it.

m25105

[QUOTE="The_Zoid"]Energy in>Energy out. Derp. I love when we go through this crap about what's causing it, who's fault is it, what can we do about it...whatever. You can become fat whilst being extremely active every day, and become rail thin sitting on your ass. It's all dependent upon intake vs burned...that is all. Nothing about "unhealthy" and "healthy" about it. Quantity rules.Mikey132

You forgot to add the variable, metabolism.

[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

[QUOTE="The_Zoid"]Energy in>Energy out. Derp. I love when we go through this crap about what's causing it, who's fault is it, what can we do about it...whatever. You can become fat whilst being extremely active every day, and become rail thin sitting on your ass. It's all dependent upon intake vs burned...that is all. Nothing about "unhealthy" and "healthy" about it. Quantity rules.The_Zoid

You forgot to add the variable, metabolism.

I've never counted a calorie in my life. I'm not disagreeing with your explaination of all this. All you've really done is outline the basic structure of weight gain and loss. While it is on topic it's beside the point to this thread.

[QUOTE="The_Zoid"][QUOTE="Mikey132"]

You forgot to add the variable, metabolism.

Mikey132

I've never counted a calorie in my life. I'm not disagreeing with your explaination of all this. All you've really done is outline the basic structure of weight gain and loss. While it is on topic it's beside the point to this thread.

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="kraken2109"]

I blame healthy food.

If it tasted good more people would eat it.

themajormayor

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Man this is like the worst post I've seen in a long time. You suck dude. themajormayor

You're telling me this

Tastes better than this?

You got no clue WHAT so ever if you really think junk food tastes better than healthy food or does healthy food in your world mean carrots only?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="m25105"] That's rich coming from you, go stuff yourself with a big mac if you can't figure out to cook.m25105

You're telling me this

Tastes better than this?

You got no clue WHAT so ever if you really think junk food tastes better than healthy food or does healthy food in your world mean carrots only?

Maybe I just have different taste than you? Maybe. Just a thought. And fyi I eat very healthy. Or rather I'm very aware of what I eat. I still enjoy a big mac more than that crap.

[QUOTE="m25105"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] Talk about prejudice... No, healthy food just taste worse nomatter how good of a cook you are. See what I did there? I had an opinion, just like you. Just a different one.themajormayor

You're telling me this

Tastes better than this?

You got no clue WHAT so ever if you really think junk food tastes better than healthy food or does healthy food in your world mean carrots only?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="m25105"]

You're telling me this

Tastes better than this?

You got no clue WHAT so ever if you really think junk food tastes better than healthy food or does healthy food in your world mean carrots only?

m25105

I love it. It's a real delicasy. We eat it here alot. I still prefer Big Mac. Cause I have different taste. It got nothing to do with cooking. As I said we do this alot and it always tastes great. But whatever enjoy your stupid hippie food. I bet you're a real fata** just for the irony lol

[QUOTE="m25105"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] Uhm yeah. Like a 1000X better. That's a really bad example of "tasty" healthy food anyway. Maybe I just have different taste than you? Maybe. Just a thought. And fyi I eat very healthy. Or rather I'm very aware of what I eat. I still enjoy a big mac more than that crap.

themajormayor

I love it. It's a real delicasy. We eat it here alot. I still prefer Big Mac. Cause I have different taste. It got nothing to do with cooking. As I said we do this alot and it always tastes great. But whatever enjoy your stupid hippie food. I bet you're a real fata** just for the irony lol

And I bet you're the kind of person who gets off when you insult others.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="m25105"] You heard it here folks, Big Mac > Grilled Salmon. This is funny and sad at the same time.

m25105

I love it. It's a real delicasy. We eat it here alot. I still prefer Big Mac. Cause I have different taste. It got nothing to do with cooking. As I said we do this alot and it always tastes great. But whatever enjoy your stupid hippie food. I bet you're a real fata** just for the irony lol

And I bet you're the kind of person who gets off when you insult others.

Well it's better than being a fat person torturing himself trying to stay away from tasty big macs, but then not being able to resist and then go home crying cause you can't resist big macs you fatass.

[QUOTE="m25105"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] OMG what a douchenozzle. We have different taste, just accept it. And btw I hate grilled salmon. Because it's healthy? no. Cause it's f*cking disgusting. If I gonna eat salmon I'd take gravlax any day.

I love it. It's a real delicasy. We eat it here alot. I still prefer Big Mac. Cause I have different taste. It got nothing to do with cooking. As I said we do this alot and it always tastes great. But whatever enjoy your stupid hippie food. I bet you're a real fata** just for the irony lol

themajormayor

And I bet you're the kind of person who gets off when you insult others.

Well it's better than being a fat person torturing himself trying to stay away from tasty big macs, but then not being able to resist and then go home crying cause you can't resist big macs you fatass.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="m25105"] You're an idiot, fish is healthy and tasty. I could've used a steak too and you probably would've written the same. The fact that you advocate that junk food taste better than real food, means your cooking skills must be lacking if you can't prepare a decent dish compared to the watered down burgers they sell at fast food joints.

And I bet you're the kind of person who gets off when you insult others.

m25105

Well it's better than being a fat person torturing himself trying to stay away from tasty big macs, but then not being able to resist and then go home crying cause you can't resist big macs you fatass.