Why are a lot of guys here so against fighting?

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]People who are scared to fight I'm willing to bet 85% of them get walked all over in anything they do. Knowing that you won't take too much crap really gives you more confidence in anything you do.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="Fortier"]

If you like to fight, that's cool. Just keep it in leagues and ****, and don't use it as a solution just cause you can.

I'm not against fighting, but I'm against fighting for the sake of resolving issues, cause it's absolutely nonsensical.

H8sMikeMoore

It sure does resolve issues. If someone disrespects you, you keep them in line.

That makes loads of sense.

"You don't like me, so I'm gonna kick your ass. I'm sure that'll yurn you around".

All a fight proves is who is better at fighting. That's it. It makes no sense to throw fists in a battle of words...

it DOES make sense.

if someone disrespects you, and you let them get away with it youll be disrespected by everyone.

Since when does not fighting them equate to letting them get away with it? There's more than one way to let a person know you're not to be trifled with.

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

Just shrug it off, who cares.If you have good friends they wont care if your a wimp or not.I dont want people to be scared of me, why would you want that?If your not a jerk than you wont get messed with thats all.

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

H8sMikeMoore

Theres a qoute where im from.... "Watch the quiet ones". Basically, if a "fighter" pushes a person who has never fought in their life too hard, far harder than they have been pushed before, then theres going to be an explosion. Ive seen it happen before.bellsmye1

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]Scrapes are good to get into now and again. Insane00

Fighting is the last resort of a mind unable to contemplate a more productive means of expression.

There is no good reason to get into a fight unless you are defending yourself from someone and you have no option to get out of the situation, like walking away.

Why? Because the whole point of fighting is to hurt another person, and if you are good at it, they easily end up dead. There is no excuse for risking that with a justification of, 'scrapes are good to get into now and again.'

you honestly think that? thats funny ive been in so many fights and ive never been (and neither has the other person) been in a situation where they were anywhere close to death

its a lot harder to kill a human than you might think it is. unless you've studied martial arts for a few years, it just aint happening.

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]Scrapes are good to get into now and again. Insane00

Fighting is the last resort of a mind unable to contemplate a more productive means of expression.

There is no good reason to get into a fight unless you are defending yourself from someone and you have no option to get out of the situation, like walking away.

Why? Because the whole point of fighting is to hurt another person, and if you are good at it, they easily end up dead. There is no excuse for risking that with a justification of, 'scrapes are good to get into now and again.'

The best answer so far.

Have you ever been assalted by a gang of youths a couple of years older than you when you are on your own? Threatened with a knife? It's not funbraindead_hero

Yes and yes.

I'm not saying go out and look for trouble by any mreans. But getting into a fistfight every now and then is a good thing.

Have you ever been assalted by a gang of youths a couple of years older than you when you are on your own? Threatened with a knife? It's not funbraindead_hero

Ive been robbed, and jumped before.Definitely not fun.I got away safe though, gave up my psp when one of the guys stepped out of the car with a bat.

Fights are only good in terms of self defense.

With that said, here are some reasons I dont like fighting:

1. My opponent can end up in the hospital or even die. So could I.

2. The cops could get called. Last time I checked I think fighting is a pretty heft misdemeanor or even a felony.

3. Girls find it unnattractive when guys fight.

4. I dont really ever have a reason to fight; I am 6'3'' and a large guy, and as a result people are biased against me since every time I have been in a fight, people always give me that mean glare because I am very big, and the people that pick fights tend to be very little (methinx they compensate for something by fighting).

mrbojangles25

4. I dont really ever have a reason to fight; I am 6'3'' and a large guy, and as a result people are biased against me since every time I have been in a fight, people always give me that mean glare because I am very big, and the people that pick fights tend to be very little (methinx they compensate for something by fighting).

mrbojangles25

What are these ways? Enlighten me, oh morally high one.

The_Mac_Daddy

Good Lord...what have I been saying this whole time? Words are more powerful than you apparently understand. Words often work, you'd be surprised. And in the event words fail, you're obviously dealing with someone who only understands violence, and at that point violence not only becomes a vaild option, but the best one.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

Jandurin

id have to say the opposite is true. ive seen and been in a lot of fights, anytime someone tries to use words they usually just get it worse. if you have the balls to fight, wether you win or not the other person usually lets it go because they know you arent afraid.

people who afraid usually get it the worst.

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]Have you ever been assalted by a gang of youths a couple of years older than you when you are on your own? Threatened with a knife? It's not funThe_Mac_Daddy

Yes and yes.

I'm not saying go out and look for trouble by any mreans. But getting into a fistfight every now and then is a good thing.

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

H8sMikeMoore

If you can rephrase that into a manner that isn't hostile against me, I'd glady give you an intelligent response...

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Fights are only good in terms of self defense.

With that said, here are some reasons I dont like fighting:

1. My opponent can end up in the hospital or even die. So could I.

2. The cops could get called. Last time I checked I think fighting is a pretty heft misdemeanor or even a felony.

3. Girls find it unnattractive when guys fight.

4. I dont really ever have a reason to fight; I am 6'3'' and a large guy, and as a result people are biased against me since every time I have been in a fight, people always give me that mean glare because I am very big, and the people that pick fights tend to be very little (methinx they compensate for something by fighting).

biBLioTek

the first one isnt true. people get punched in the face everyday. yet you never hear of "death by punch in the face" you might break your nose at the very worst.

Some of you people crack me up. Getting killed from a fist fight? I'm not going to say it's never happened, but it is so very rare. You don't see UFC fighters getting killed, and they punch a whole hell of a lot harder than your normal joe out on the street.

Secondly, y'all sound like my mother. "Just walk away. Compliments are better for confidence. Hurt them with words." LOL.. are you kidding me?

id have to say the opposite is true. ive seen and been in a lot of fights, anytime someone tries to use words they usually just get it worse. if you have the balls to fight, wether you win or not the other person usually lets it go because they know you arent afraid.

people who afraid usually get it the worst.

H8sMikeMoore

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

Fortier

If you can rephrase that into a manner that isn't hostile against me, I'd glady give you an intelligent response...

i wasnt hostile in the slightest.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

H8sMikeMoore

id have to say the opposite is true. ive seen and been in a lot of fights, anytime someone tries to use words they usually just get it worse. if you have the balls to fight, wether you win or not the other person usually lets it go because they know you arent afraid.

people who afraid usually get it the worst.

Hurt them with words." LOL.. are you kidding me?The_Mac_Daddy

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

H8sMikeMoore

id have to say the opposite is true. ive seen and been in a lot of fights, anytime someone tries to use words they usually just get it worse. if you have the balls to fight, wether you win or not the other person usually lets it go because they know you arent afraid.

people who afraid usually get it the worst.

You realise that when fights break out it's mostly because one of the people has just hit a wall of rage. Inside they've snapped and they don't want to say words anymore. They want to beat you within an inch of your life when they're that angry. And if you lose in that situation then your going to question your very existence and wonder why you didn't just walk away.

Not everyone who you get into a fight with is going to have the decency to just let you go because they respect you as your not afraid. They're much more likely to keep on beating you until they get stopped by someone else or they cause injuries too severe.

Can you list some of the positives of getting punched in the face, please?SolidSnake35

Injuring people does make me feel better.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

bellsmye1

id have to say the opposite is true. ive seen and been in a lot of fights, anytime someone tries to use words they usually just get it worse. if you have the balls to fight, wether you win or not the other person usually lets it go because they know you arent afraid.

people who afraid usually get it the worst.

ive already stated theres a difference between pacifism and cowardice.

cowards usually try and say theyre pacifists.

you only have two options. if you're going to take a beating, take it and show them it dosent do anything to you. the only risk to pacifism is people might try to take advantage of it

or fight back, and get a reputation and be in less fights.

The_Mac_daddy@ I've noticed you seem awfully worried about people disrespecting you, do you really have such low self esteem and low self respect to constantly seek gratification from others? Usually I find people don't respect people who jump into fights for innane reasons, to be honest from what your saying I wouldn't be able to respect you as you must be so insecure and incapable of holding reasonable argument if you feel the need to resort to violence for what someone presumably said about 'yo momma'braindead_hero

Judging by his user-name hes probably into the whole "ghetto" culture.That probably explains why hes so obsessed with respect when in reality he deserves none, and is probably a fool.

Then again, what do i know.

I've noticed you seem awfully worried about people disrespecting you, do you really have such low self esteem and low self respect to constantly seek gratification from others? Usually I find people don't respect people who jump into fights for innane reasons, to be honest from what your saying I wouldn't be able to respect you as you must be so insecure and incapable of holding reasonable argument if you feel the need to resort to violence for what someone presumably said about 'yo momma'braindead_hero

Indeed, when I see guys getting aggressive over things so petty I just think to myself how sad it is that all they've got is their own ironically fragile male-pride and an infantile need to be "respected".

[QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

H8sMikeMoore

If you can rephrase that into a manner that isn't hostile against me, I'd glady give you an intelligent response...

i wasnt hostile in the slightest.

Hm, maybe I'm crazy but I'm pretty sure that was a sly jab at me as it's known nobody wants people to get away with **** they do to you...

And this talk has nothing to do with pacifism, as I would agree that pacifism is a foolish ideology.

Anyway, the point is, most of the time words can solve whatever kinda problem you may be in, I know a few of you are laughing, but it's true. I'm simply stating that fighting should be a last ditch resort when all your cards have been drawn. You'd really tell me that fighting as a first option is a good idea?

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

ColdRush88

id have to say the opposite is true. ive seen and been in a lot of fights, anytime someone tries to use words they usually just get it worse. if you have the balls to fight, wether you win or not the other person usually lets it go because they know you arent afraid.

people who afraid usually get it the worst.

You realise that when fights break out it's mostly because one of the people has just hit a wall of rage. Inside they've snapped and they don't want to say words anymore. They want to beat you within an inch of your life when they're that angry. And if you lose in that situation then your going to question your very existence and wonder why you didn't just walk away.

Not everyone who you get into a fight with is going to have the decency to just let you go because they respect you as your not afraid. They're much more likely to keep on beating you until they get stopped by someone else or they cause injuries too severe.

not true, and im sure you think that because hollywood likes to make some really crappy movies.

usually when people fight they want to embarrass you, and make a statement. killing people is hard to do. you dont know how to do it, and neither does anyone you know. The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that

The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that H8sMikeMoore

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]The_Mac_daddy@ I've noticed you seem awfully worried about people disrespecting you, do you really have such low self esteem and low self respect to constantly seek gratification from others? Usually I find people don't respect people who jump into fights for innane reasons, to be honest from what your saying I wouldn't be able to respect you as you must be so insecure and incapable of holding reasonable argument if you feel the need to resort to violence for what someone presumably said about 'yo momma'xxDustmanxx

Judging by his user-name hes probably into the whole "ghetto" culture.That probably explains why hes so obsessed with respect when in reality he deserves none, and is probably a fool.

Then again, what do i know.

Ghetto culture? I'm in no kind of ghetto culture. Mac daddy is a reference to me and the ladies.

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]Have you ever been assalted by a gang of youths a couple of years older than you when you are on your own? Threatened with a knife? It's not funThe_Mac_Daddy

Yes and yes.

I'm not saying go out and look for trouble by any mreans. But getting into a fistfight every now and then is a good thing.

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]The_Mac_daddy@ I've noticed you seem awfully worried about people disrespecting you, do you really have such low self esteem and low self respect to constantly seek gratification from others? Usually I find people don't respect people who jump into fights for innane reasons, to be honest from what your saying I wouldn't be able to respect you as you must be so insecure and incapable of holding reasonable argument if you feel the need to resort to violence for what someone presumably said about 'yo momma'xxDustmanxx

Judging by his user-name hes probably into the whole "ghetto" culture.That probably explains why hes so obsessed with respect when in reality he deserves none, and is probably a fool.

Then again, what do i know.

It's way bigger than "ghetto culture".

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

Fortier

If you can rephrase that into a manner that isn't hostile against me, I'd glady give you an intelligent response...

i wasnt hostile in the slightest.

Hm, maybe I'm crazy but I'm pretty sure that was a sly jab at me as it's known nobody wants people to get away with **** they do to you...

And this talk has nothing to do with pacifism, as I would agree that pacifism is a foolish ideology.

Anyway, the point is, most of the time words can solve whatever kinda problem you may be in, I know a few of you are laughing, but it's true. I'm simply stating that fighting should be a last ditch resort when all your cards have been drawn. You'd really tell me that fighting as a first option is a good idea?

whatever option works for you is the best one. but im my experience words only work so far. because if the person dosent like you chances are they dont care what you say. if you make them mad with words, theyre going to attack you usually.

i dont pacifism is stupid, its kind of interesting. its like punching a brick wall. you can hit it as hard as you want but its still there and you quit because it wont work.

but fighting back works too, usually better because you arent being taken advantage of and people will take notice to that and not want to fight you.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

are you going to scream at them in a mean voice? are you going to tell someone?

if you do either, you're a whimp in most peoples opinion. people have to know not to mess with you otherwise theres consequences. but whatever man, if you want to go through life with the possibility of some **** getting away with whatever he wants then thats okay

but being afraid of fighting dosent exactly make you a pacifist. a pacifist isnt afraid of getting hurt. pacifists arent cowards.

Fortier

If you can rephrase that into a manner that isn't hostile against me, I'd glady give you an intelligent response...

i wasnt hostile in the slightest.

Hm, maybe I'm crazy but I'm pretty sure that was a sly jab at me as it's known nobody wants people to get away with **** they do to you...

And this talk has nothing to do with pacifism, as I would agree that pacifism is a foolish ideology.

Anyway, the point is, most of the time words can solve whatever kinda problem you may be in, I know a few of you are laughing, but it's true. I'm simply stating that fighting should be a last ditch resort when all your cards have been drawn. You'd really tell me that fighting as a first option is a good idea?

whatever option works for you is the best one. but im my experience words only work so far. because if the person dosent like you chances are they dont care what you say. if you make them mad with words, theyre going to attack you usually.

i dont pacifism is stupid, its kind of interesting. its like punching a brick wall. you can hit it as hard as you want but its still there and you quit because it wont work.

but fighting back works too, usually better because you arent being taken advantage of and people will take notice to that and not want to fight you.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that Jandurin

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Can you list some of the positives of getting punched in the face, please?cryptosopoidium

If your the one punching it can relive anger. If your not well, there is no positive.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that Jandurin

When getting in a fist fight, nobody is trying to get a murder case. You are trying to make the other guy eat his words. Or show him you aren't gunna take any foolishness. If you really really wanted to, you can kill someone with your hands.. but you gotta have murder on your mind for that.. it's pretty damn hard to kill someone in a fist fight by accident.

People who are scared to fight I'm willing to bet 85% of them get walked all over in anything they do. Knowing that you won't take too much crap really gives you more confidence in anything you do.The_Mac_Daddy

thats not how the world works, dude.

someone disrespects you, you ignore them. If they continue to do so, you talk back to them and tell them you dont like it. Worse comes to worse, you get in their face and tell them to go **** themselves and/or their mother. If youre lucky, they throw the first punch and then, by all means, defend yourself.

Either way, you dont gain respect by starting fights.

Out of curiosity, how often do you get in fights? Every time someone calls you an idiot, a jerk, etc?

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that bellsmye1

i dont think 90% of the people on this forum could even apply the force to do that, nor do I think anyone here has the technique to do it. otherwise you'd hear about deaths in this manner a lot more often.

so, the nose thing is bs. its official. it works, but you couldnt do it right if you tried your hardest.

Some of you people crack me up. Getting killed from a fist fight? I'm not going to say it's never happened, but it is so very rare. You don't see UFC fighters getting killed, and they punch a whole hell of a lot harder than your normal joe out on the street.

Secondly, y'all sound like my mother. "Just walk away. Compliments are better for confidence. Hurt them with words." LOL.. are you kidding me?

The_Mac_Daddy

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"]

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]The_Mac_daddy@ I've noticed you seem awfully worried about people disrespecting you, do you really have such low self esteem and low self respect to constantly seek gratification from others? Usually I find people don't respect people who jump into fights for innane reasons, to be honest from what your saying I wouldn't be able to respect you as you must be so insecure and incapable of holding reasonable argument if you feel the need to resort to violence for what someone presumably said about 'yo momma'The_Mac_Daddy

Judging by his user-name hes probably into the whole "ghetto" culture.That probably explains why hes so obsessed with respect when in reality he deserves none, and is probably a fool.

Then again, what do i know.

Ghetto culture? I'm in no kind of ghetto culture. Mac daddy is a reference to me and the ladies.

Yeah because I imagine your a massive hit with the ladies having to prove your worth by how 'hard' you are, kinda shows how insecure you are you seem to be arrogant chauvenistic and generally a rather obnoxious individual who is unable to carry a discussion without stabbing someone in the eye to prove a point, that might not be who you are but its who you appear to be from this thread

not true, and im sure you think that because hollywood likes to make some really crappy movies.

usually when people fight they want to embarrass you, and make a statement. killing people is hard to do. you dont know how to do it, and neither does anyone you know. The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that

H8sMikeMoore

Sorry to tell you this but I'm not some gullible kid who believes everything he sees on TV and in film. I'm 19.

Humans are actually pretty fragile beings. They are easy to kill. Ever heard of knives or guns (things which are very common in the world). And if humans are so hard to kill then how come so many of us are randomly killed by gangs, cars, accidents, psychos etc. All it takes is a few severe blows to the head to cause severe permant damage.

Oh. And I did Psychology and Sociology for a year at college so I might actually know more about the human mind than you do.

so, the nose thing is bs. its official. it works, but you couldnt do it right if you tried your hardest.

H8sMikeMoore