Why are a lot of guys here so against fighting?
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Not true. If you're determined, you can kill someone with your hands.[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that The_Mac_Daddy
When getting in a fist fight, nobody is trying to get a murder case. You are trying to make the other guy eat his words. Or show him you aren't gunna take any foolishness. If you really really wanted to, you can kill someone with your hands.. but you gotta have murder on your mind for that.. it's pretty damn hard to kill someone in a fist fight by accident.
and thats another reason not to fight. I have been in not a lot, but more than a few, fights and half the time I ended up sending people to the hospital. I broke one person's nose, dislocated someone's knee by stomping on it, knocked out someone's front teeth, and dislocated someone's shoulder. When I fight, I dont do it because I am angry or need my dignity back...I do it because that person is a threat to me and I dont want to them to be able to retaliate for a while.
Ive been fortunate that they were all cases of self defense and I never got sued, but still...I feel really guilty afterwards.
Fighting because someone is badmouthing you is just silly. Let it go, man.
[QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]Scrapes are good to get into now and again. H8sMikeMoore
Fighting is the last resort of a mind unable to contemplate a more productive means of expression.
There is no good reason to get into a fight unless you are defending yourself from someone and you have no option to get out of the situation, like walking away.
Why? Because the whole point of fighting is to hurt another person, and if you are good at it, they easily end up dead. There is no excuse for risking that with a justification of, 'scrapes are good to get into now and again.'
you honestly think that? thats funny ive been in so many fights and ive never been (and neither has the other person) been in a situation where they were anywhere close to death
its a lot harder to kill a human than you might think it is. unless you've studied martial arts for a few years, it just aint happening.
Exactly, that is the point. Just because you think someone is wuss or is worth messing with you may find out, as someone recently said, they explode and you end up in a hospital.
As far as how easy it is to kill someone, you hit them hard enough in the nose, with a slight upward motion, and you just turned into a murderer. Generally, the only people that really enjoy fighting have no, or very little formal training, because as soon as you begin to understand the mechanics, you realize that there is no effective way of defending someone without causing damage that could be life threatening.
As Grand Master Doc Fai Wong (from SF) says, you avoid fighting at all costs unless you have no other choice. And the Kung-Fu 'run away' is a better way of getting out of a fist fight than beating the crud out of someone.
When I was 13 I dealt with a group of guys that wanted to prove their fighting superiority. The first fight was a draw, no one really got hurt, the second fight resulted in me throwing a guy to the ground and strangling him until his eyes were bugging out of his head. He would have ended up dead or unconcious if someone hadn't dragged me off of him. The third and last fight was when I stood and watched 8 girls surround me, threaten me, and attempt (unsuccessfully) to kick me in the nuts and spit in my face. It was wholly not worth it and I proved nothing by showing those guys I had the ability to hurt someone, except that they had to run to their girlfriends to get even. So how was that good.
Oh yea, and of course there was the 3 years of Goju Kempo when I was a kid followed up by 4-5 years (and counting) of Choi Li Fut Kung Fu that I got under me, that might be a reason that I think fighting for fighting's sake is dumb.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]youll find that a lot of kids here are very anti-competitive in almost every way (except video games obviously)
i think it has to do with the fact that theres a lot of nerds here. alot arent however
Azurr
Not wanting to fight isn't nerdy. It's smart.
Watch what you say. There seems to be a lot of hard nuts in here dragging their knuckles around and promoting fighting.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]not true, and im sure you think that because hollywood likes to make some really crappy movies.usually when people fight they want to embarrass you, and make a statement. killing people is hard to do. you dont know how to do it, and neither does anyone you know. The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that
ColdRush88
Sorry to tell you this but I'm not some gullible kid who believes everything he sees on TV and in film. I'm 19.
Humans are actually pretty fragile beings. They are easy to kill. Ever heard of knives or guns (things which are very common in the world). And if humans are so hard to kill then how come so many of us are randomly killed by gangs, cars, accidents, psychos etc. All it takes is a few severe blows to the head to cause severe permant damage.
Oh. And I did Psychology and Sociology for a year at college so I might actually know more about the human mind than you do.
okay, first of all. knives and guns are a different topic entirely. everyone knows that and thats why nobody else is talking about either of them. the rest of what you said is ignorable.
I dont think you do, and what does the human mind have to do with how much the human body endures? I think you should search your own mind for a logical way to justify that.
[QUOTE="Azurr"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]youll find that a lot of kids here are very anti-competitive in almost every way (except video games obviously)
i think it has to do with the fact that theres a lot of nerds here. alot arent however
bellsmye1
Not wanting to fight isn't nerdy. It's smart.
Watch what you say. There seems to be a lot of hard nuts in here dragging their knuckles around and promoting fighting.If anything, the ones saying they do fight and you should fight are the nerds, while the modest ones saying you shouldnt are the people that actually go outside, compete with sports, and divert their aggression in other ways besides fighting and video games.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]youll find that a lot of kids here are very anti-competitive in almost every way (except video games obviously)
i think it has to do with the fact that theres a lot of nerds here. alot arent however
Azurr
Not wanting to fight isn't nerdy. It's smart.
if you were smart, you would try and make it so nobody would want to fight you in the first place.
the best way to not get into fights, is to mae people afraid of you in the first place. then you never have to. THAT is smart. running away is stupid.
whatever option works for you is the best one. but im my experience words only work so far. because if the person dosent like you chances are they dont care what you say. if you make them mad with words, theyre going to attack you usually.
i dont pacifism is stupid, its kind of interesting. its like punching a brick wall. you can hit it as hard as you want but its still there and you quit because it wont work.
but fighting back works too, usually better because you arent being taken advantage of and people will take notice to that and not want to fight you.
H8sMikeMoore
Then again, if you befriend everyone with words, nobody will wanna fight you. And even if someone does, they won't, because you have so many friends.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who thinks that pacifism works (probably cause it doesn't). I think pretty much everyone acknowledges that violence is sometimes necessary, but it shouldn't be our first (or next) option, you should always try and settle disputes with words first.
And if that goes down the tube, kick them in the neck and laugh at them while they're on the ground.
[QUOTE="ColdRush88"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]not true, and im sure you think that because hollywood likes to make some really crappy movies.usually when people fight they want to embarrass you, and make a statement. killing people is hard to do. you dont know how to do it, and neither does anyone you know. The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that
H8sMikeMoore
Sorry to tell you this but I'm not some gullible kid who believes everything he sees on TV and in film. I'm 19.
Humans are actually pretty fragile beings. They are easy to kill. Ever heard of knives or guns (things which are very common in the world). And if humans are so hard to kill then how come so many of us are randomly killed by gangs, cars, accidents, psychos etc. All it takes is a few severe blows to the head to cause severe permant damage.
Oh. And I did Psychology and Sociology for a year at college so I might actually know more about the human mind than you do.
okay, first of all. knives and guns are a different topic entirely. everyone knows that and thats why nobody else is talking about either of them. the rest of what you said is ignorable.
I dont think you do, and what does the human mind have to do with how much the human body endures? I think you should search your own mind for a logical way to justify that.
What you seem to fail to realize however, is that in the US generally anyone willing to pick a fight (especially if they aren't drunk) is also packing something more than their fists. This isn't a country with an eastern mindset, few people truly devote themselves to mastering any formal fighting system, so the easiest way to win a fight with someone that can kick your butt is to stab them when they aren't expecting it or to shoot them. So yea, it is kinda important to consider guns and knives when discussing the pros and cons of fighting.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]Scrapes are good to get into now and again. Insane00
Fighting is the last resort of a mind unable to contemplate a more productive means of expression.
There is no good reason to get into a fight unless you are defending yourself from someone and you have no option to get out of the situation, like walking away.
Why? Because the whole point of fighting is to hurt another person, and if you are good at it, they easily end up dead. There is no excuse for risking that with a justification of, 'scrapes are good to get into now and again.'
you honestly think that? thats funny ive been in so many fights and ive never been (and neither has the other person) been in a situation where they were anywhere close to death
its a lot harder to kill a human than you might think it is. unless you've studied martial arts for a few years, it just aint happening.
Exactly, that is the point. Just because you think someone is wuss or is worth messing with you may find out, as someone recently said, they explode and you end up in a hospital.
As far as how easy it is to kill someone, you hit them hard enough in the nose, with a slight upward motion, and you just turned into a murderer. Generally, the only people that really enjoy fighting have no, or very little formal training, because as soon as you begin to understand the mechanics, you realize that there is no effective way of defending someone without causing damage that could be life threatening.
As Grand Master Doc Fai Wong (from SF) says, you avoid fighting at all costs unless you have no other choice. And the Kung-Fu 'run away' is a better way of getting out of a fist fight than beating the crud out of someone.
When I was 13 I dealt with a group of guys that wanted to prove their fighting superiority. The first fight was a draw, no one really got hurt, the second fight resulted in me throwing a guy to the ground and strangling him until his eyes were bugging out of his head. He would have ended up dead or unconcious if someone hadn't dragged me off of him. The third and last fight was when I stood and watched 8 girls surround me, threaten me, and attempt (unsuccessfully) to kick me in the nuts and spit in my face. It was wholly not worth it and I proved nothing by showing those guys I had the ability to hurt someone, except that they had to run to their girlfriends to get even. So how was that good.
Oh yea, and of course there was the 3 years of Goju Kempo when I was a kid followed up by 4-5 years (and counting) of Choi Li Fut Kung Fu that I got under me, that might be a reason that I think fighting for fighting's sake is dumb.
we agree on more things than we disagree on. I dont advocate fighting for fightings sake. then youre just a dumbass. I just think if someones going to disrespect you in a severe manner, there comes a time and place. and then people know not to do that. I dont go around looking for fights. If someone fights all the time, I cant imagine them being happy anyway.
the nose thing is pretty hard to do, people get punched in the nose all the time. my friend broke his nose, and it never healed correctly (unrelated to fighting) but because of that hes broken it a few times, youd think just one of the times it would havbe gone at an angle and killed him. But no, the human body is actually pretty tough. even for my friend who was 120 lbs soaking wet with a winter suit on.
[QUOTE="ColdRush88"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]not true, and im sure you think that because hollywood likes to make some really crappy movies.usually when people fight they want to embarrass you, and make a statement. killing people is hard to do. you dont know how to do it, and neither does anyone you know. The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that
H8sMikeMoore
Sorry to tell you this but I'm not some gullible kid who believes everything he sees on TV and in film. I'm 19.
Humans are actually pretty fragile beings. They are easy to kill. Ever heard of knives or guns (things which are very common in the world). And if humans are so hard to kill then how come so many of us are randomly killed by gangs, cars, accidents, psychos etc. All it takes is a few severe blows to the head to cause severe permant damage.
Oh. And I did Psychology and Sociology for a year at college so I might actually know more about the human mind than you do.
okay, first of all. knives and guns are a different topic entirely. everyone knows that and thats why nobody else is talking about either of them. the rest of what you said is ignorable.
I dont think you do, and what does the human mind have to do with how much the human body endures? I think you should search your own mind for a logical way to justify that.
I'm talking about the mind because I was talking about it earlier. Did you not read all of my posts?
"the rest of what you said is ignorable." That just tells me that you know I'm right. And I am. Humans are easy to kill. They may be hard to kill for someone weak like me but for everyone else who is stronger then it's easy. I mentioned knives and guns to make a point. Head injuries are very easy to sustain. And when you get into a fight usually the primary target is the head. Bones can be broken with a strong enough hit and force.
Your talking like all humans are made of steel.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="ColdRush88"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]not true, and im sure you think that because hollywood likes to make some really crappy movies.usually when people fight they want to embarrass you, and make a statement. killing people is hard to do. you dont know how to do it, and neither does anyone you know. The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that
Insane00
Sorry to tell you this but I'm not some gullible kid who believes everything he sees on TV and in film. I'm 19.
Humans are actually pretty fragile beings. They are easy to kill. Ever heard of knives or guns (things which are very common in the world). And if humans are so hard to kill then how come so many of us are randomly killed by gangs, cars, accidents, psychos etc. All it takes is a few severe blows to the head to cause severe permant damage.
Oh. And I did Psychology and Sociology for a year at college so I might actually know more about the human mind than you do.
okay, first of all. knives and guns are a different topic entirely. everyone knows that and thats why nobody else is talking about either of them. the rest of what you said is ignorable.
I dont think you do, and what does the human mind have to do with how much the human body endures? I think you should search your own mind for a logical way to justify that.
What you seem to fail to realize however, is that in the US generally anyone willing to pick a fight (especially if they aren't drunk) is also packing something more than their fists. This isn't a country with an eastern mindset, few people truly devote themselves to mastering any formal fighting system, so the easiest way to win a fight with someone that can kick your butt is to stab them when they aren't expecting it or to shoot them. So yea, it is kinda important to consider guns and knives when discussing the pros and cons of fighting.
thats purely speculative. theres that risk always, but usually people arent looking to do hard time.
people who would consider doing that to do are people whos opinions you could probably get away with ignoring. Im talking about people who constantly harrass you generally. I couldnt care less what some randomer does. If its bad enough ill do what I have to do though. To be the boss, you cant be afraid to show people you are right?
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="ColdRush88"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]not true, and im sure you think that because hollywood likes to make some really crappy movies.usually when people fight they want to embarrass you, and make a statement. killing people is hard to do. you dont know how to do it, and neither does anyone you know. The common ideas for killing a guy with your bare hands dont really work like you think it does. You would seriously need years of martial arts training for that
ColdRush88
Sorry to tell you this but I'm not some gullible kid who believes everything he sees on TV and in film. I'm 19.
Humans are actually pretty fragile beings. They are easy to kill. Ever heard of knives or guns (things which are very common in the world). And if humans are so hard to kill then how come so many of us are randomly killed by gangs, cars, accidents, psychos etc. All it takes is a few severe blows to the head to cause severe permant damage.
Oh. And I did Psychology and Sociology for a year at college so I might actually know more about the human mind than you do.
okay, first of all. knives and guns are a different topic entirely. everyone knows that and thats why nobody else is talking about either of them. the rest of what you said is ignorable.
I dont think you do, and what does the human mind have to do with how much the human body endures? I think you should search your own mind for a logical way to justify that.
I'm talking about the mind because I was talking about it earlier. Did you not read all of my posts?
"the rest of what you said is ignorable." That just tells me that you know I'm right. And I am. Humans are easy to kill. They may be hard to kill for someone weak like me but for everyone else who is stronger then it's easy. I mentioned knives and guns to make a point. Head injuries are very easy to sustain. And when you get into a fight usually the primary target is the head. Bones can be broken with a strong enough hit and force.
Your talking like all humans are made of steel.
I didnt read all of your posts. I really dont like to read every post in threads anyway.
I dont think you're right. I pointed out that im talking about hand to hand combat exclusively.
For example (with head injuries) if someone if going to punch you in the face, if they hit your forehead they will break their hands. And you will probably get a headache. The forehead is pretty strong.
Liz Vicious is amazing.
[QUOTE="Azurr"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]youll find that a lot of kids here are very anti-competitive in almost every way (except video games obviously)
i think it has to do with the fact that theres a lot of nerds here. alot arent however
H8sMikeMoore
Not wanting to fight isn't nerdy. It's smart.
if you were smart, you would try and make it so nobody would want to fight you in the first place.
the best way to not get into fights, is to mae people afraid of you in the first place. then you never have to. THAT is smart. running away is stupid.
Haven't you ever heard about the gunslingers dilemma. If you are the fastest gun, the strongest fighter, the guy everyone is afraid of, generally every two-bit fool hankering for a reputation is gonna try to start something with you so they can say that they beat you. There is a great bit about this in Blazing Saddles that Gene Wilder says, but perhaps the life of one of America's greatest gunslingers better reflects the issue. Wild Bill Hickock dealt with this most of his life, so he ended up staying north to avoid most people. Unfortunately it wasn't enough, and he ended up getting shot in the back playing poker.
Oh, and if you piss off the wrong person, one night you'll walk out of your house and end up making out with a baseball bat. the worst part of it is that someone that does that doesn't want you to know they did it, they just want to hurt you. Fighting opens up a can of worms that probably isn't a good idea to try to live with.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Azurr"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]youll find that a lot of kids here are very anti-competitive in almost every way (except video games obviously)
i think it has to do with the fact that theres a lot of nerds here. alot arent however
Insane00
Not wanting to fight isn't nerdy. It's smart.
if you were smart, you would try and make it so nobody would want to fight you in the first place.
the best way to not get into fights, is to mae people afraid of you in the first place. then you never have to. THAT is smart. running away is stupid.
Haven't you ever heard about the gunslingers dilemma. If you are the fastest gun, the strongest fighter, the guy everyone is afraid of, generally every two-bit fool hankering for a reputation is gonna try to start something with you so they can say that they beat you. There is a great bit about this in Blazing Saddles that Gene Wilder says, but perhaps the life of one of America's greatest gunslingers better reflects the issue. Wild Bill Hickock dealt with this most of his life, so he ended up staying north to avoid most people. Unfortunately it wasn't enough, and he ended up getting shot in the back playing poker.
Oh, and if you piss off the wrong person, one night you'll walk out of your house and end up making out with a baseball bat. the worst part of it is that someone that does that doesn't want you to know they did it, they just want to hurt you. Fighting opens up a can of worms that probably isn't a good idea to try to live with.
i was implying that you should lift weights and get huge. nobody wants to fight meatheads. I wasnt advocating going around and being a jerk.
the best way to not fight, is to make people not want to fight you in the first place.
[QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Azurr"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]youll find that a lot of kids here are very anti-competitive in almost every way (except video games obviously)
i think it has to do with the fact that theres a lot of nerds here. alot arent however
H8sMikeMoore
Not wanting to fight isn't nerdy. It's smart.
if you were smart, you would try and make it so nobody would want to fight you in the first place.
the best way to not get into fights, is to mae people afraid of you in the first place. then you never have to. THAT is smart. running away is stupid.
Haven't you ever heard about the gunslingers dilemma. If you are the fastest gun, the strongest fighter, the guy everyone is afraid of, generally every two-bit fool hankering for a reputation is gonna try to start something with you so they can say that they beat you. There is a great bit about this in Blazing Saddles that Gene Wilder says, but perhaps the life of one of America's greatest gunslingers better reflects the issue. Wild Bill Hickock dealt with this most of his life, so he ended up staying north to avoid most people. Unfortunately it wasn't enough, and he ended up getting shot in the back playing poker.
Oh, and if you piss off the wrong person, one night you'll walk out of your house and end up making out with a baseball bat. the worst part of it is that someone that does that doesn't want you to know they did it, they just want to hurt you. Fighting opens up a can of worms that probably isn't a good idea to try to live with.
i was implying that you should lift weights and get huge. nobody wants to fight meatheads. I wasnt advocating going around and being a jerk.
the best way to not fight, is to make people not want to fight you in the first place.
So you need to make yourself huge from using weights just so you can make people scared of you?
I think that's completely the wrong attitude to have in life. You should be yourself and not care what other people think of you.
If someone wants to fight you it's because you've done something to make them angry. And I'd also bet that walkng around showing your huge arms off and trying to intimidate everyone is being more of a jerk than anything.
And yes Liz Vicious is amazing.
[QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]Scrapes are good to get into now and again. H8sMikeMoore
Fighting is the last resort of a mind unable to contemplate a more productive means of expression.
There is no good reason to get into a fight unless you are defending yourself from someone and you have no option to get out of the situation, like walking away.
Why? Because the whole point of fighting is to hurt another person, and if you are good at it, they easily end up dead. There is no excuse for risking that with a justification of, 'scrapes are good to get into now and again.'
you honestly think that? thats funny ive been in so many fights and ive never been (and neither has the other person) been in a situation where they were anywhere close to death
its a lot harder to kill a human than you might think it is. unless you've studied martial arts for a few years, it just aint happening.
Exactly, that is the point. Just because you think someone is wuss or is worth messing with you may find out, as someone recently said, they explode and you end up in a hospital.
As far as how easy it is to kill someone, you hit them hard enough in the nose, with a slight upward motion, and you just turned into a murderer. Generally, the only people that really enjoy fighting have no, or very little formal training, because as soon as you begin to understand the mechanics, you realize that there is no effective way of defending someone without causing damage that could be life threatening.
As Grand Master Doc Fai Wong (from SF) says, you avoid fighting at all costs unless you have no other choice. And the Kung-Fu 'run away' is a better way of getting out of a fist fight than beating the crud out of someone.
When I was 13 I dealt with a group of guys that wanted to prove their fighting superiority. The first fight was a draw, no one really got hurt, the second fight resulted in me throwing a guy to the ground and strangling him until his eyes were bugging out of his head. He would have ended up dead or unconcious if someone hadn't dragged me off of him. The third and last fight was when I stood and watched 8 girls surround me, threaten me, and attempt (unsuccessfully) to kick me in the nuts and spit in my face. It was wholly not worth it and I proved nothing by showing those guys I had the ability to hurt someone, except that they had to run to their girlfriends to get even. So how was that good.
Oh yea, and of course there was the 3 years of Goju Kempo when I was a kid followed up by 4-5 years (and counting) of Choi Li Fut Kung Fu that I got under me, that might be a reason that I think fighting for fighting's sake is dumb.
we agree on more things than we disagree on. I dont advocate fighting for fightings sake. then youre just a dumbass. I just think if someones going to disrespect you in a severe manner, there comes a time and place. and then people know not to do that. I dont go around looking for fights. If someone fights all the time, I cant imagine them being happy anyway.
the nose thing is pretty hard to do, people get punched in the nose all the time. my friend broke his nose, and it never healed correctly (unrelated to fighting) but because of that hes broken it a few times, youd think just one of the times it would havbe gone at an angle and killed him. But no, the human body is actually pretty tough. even for my friend who was 120 lbs soaking wet with a winter suit on.
As you said, if you know what you're doing, it isn't hard at all. Last summer I was out with some workmates getting a little drunk and one of them decided to play fight with me. He slapped me, so I slapped him back and we started going at it. All was fun for about a minute and then I realized that I was about to throw the guy into the windsheild of a truck. Probably would have been a bad idea as I would have lost my job and probably gotten sued.
Either way, I refuse to believe that fighting over anything anyone says is worth it. Words, especially words of 'disrespect' are not worth paying attention to. If someone refuses to lay off, walk away, if they have to follow you, then they are hankering for a fight and your best bet is to either wait for the first punch to go out and do what you have to do or leave entirely. But winning a fight never guarantees that you will 'be the boss' or that anyone is gonna fear you.
Fighting has only one true purpose, self-defence. To use it for any other reason is excessive. Perhaps if the next person that 'disrespects' you kicks you butt up and down the street you will realize how pointless trying to force your superiority on him was a bad idea. After all, fighting is merely that, an attempt to force what you want another person to think or feel onto them.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Azurr"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]youll find that a lot of kids here are very anti-competitive in almost every way (except video games obviously)
i think it has to do with the fact that theres a lot of nerds here. alot arent however
ColdRush88
Not wanting to fight isn't nerdy. It's smart.
if you were smart, you would try and make it so nobody would want to fight you in the first place.
the best way to not get into fights, is to mae people afraid of you in the first place. then you never have to. THAT is smart. running away is stupid.
Haven't you ever heard about the gunslingers dilemma. If you are the fastest gun, the strongest fighter, the guy everyone is afraid of, generally every two-bit fool hankering for a reputation is gonna try to start something with you so they can say that they beat you. There is a great bit about this in Blazing Saddles that Gene Wilder says, but perhaps the life of one of America's greatest gunslingers better reflects the issue. Wild Bill Hickock dealt with this most of his life, so he ended up staying north to avoid most people. Unfortunately it wasn't enough, and he ended up getting shot in the back playing poker.
Oh, and if you piss off the wrong person, one night you'll walk out of your house and end up making out with a baseball bat. the worst part of it is that someone that does that doesn't want you to know they did it, they just want to hurt you. Fighting opens up a can of worms that probably isn't a good idea to try to live with.
i was implying that you should lift weights and get huge. nobody wants to fight meatheads. I wasnt advocating going around and being a jerk.
the best way to not fight, is to make people not want to fight you in the first place.
So you need to make yourself huge from using weights just so you can make people scared of you?
I think that's completely the wrong attitude to have in life. You should be yourself and not care what other people think of you.
If someone wants to fight you it's because you've done something to make them angry. And I'd also bet that walkng around showing your huge arms off and trying to intimidate everyone is being more of a jerk than anything.
And yes Liz Vicious is amazing.
actually most huge dudes are extremely nice. its just that immature jerks dont even try because youll get pwndizzled. seems like a win win to me. ive noticed bulking does help in this situation. im usually a pretty chilled out guy but the people who used to get somewhat cocky with me dont anymore. not that im gonna hit them or anything (because being cocky isnt a big deal) but just because they feel inferior in the attitude department.
some people go looking for fights, so its best to have something saying that you arent to be screwed with. this way i dont have to do something i find to be aggrivating.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Azurr"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]youll find that a lot of kids here are very anti-competitive in almost every way (except video games obviously)
i think it has to do with the fact that theres a lot of nerds here. alot arent however
ColdRush88
Not wanting to fight isn't nerdy. It's smart.
if you were smart, you would try and make it so nobody would want to fight you in the first place.
the best way to not get into fights, is to mae people afraid of you in the first place. then you never have to. THAT is smart. running away is stupid.
Haven't you ever heard about the gunslingers dilemma. If you are the fastest gun, the strongest fighter, the guy everyone is afraid of, generally every two-bit fool hankering for a reputation is gonna try to start something with you so they can say that they beat you. There is a great bit about this in Blazing Saddles that Gene Wilder says, but perhaps the life of one of America's greatest gunslingers better reflects the issue. Wild Bill Hickock dealt with this most of his life, so he ended up staying north to avoid most people. Unfortunately it wasn't enough, and he ended up getting shot in the back playing poker.
Oh, and if you piss off the wrong person, one night you'll walk out of your house and end up making out with a baseball bat. the worst part of it is that someone that does that doesn't want you to know they did it, they just want to hurt you. Fighting opens up a can of worms that probably isn't a good idea to try to live with.
i was implying that you should lift weights and get huge. nobody wants to fight meatheads. I wasnt advocating going around and being a jerk.
the best way to not fight, is to make people not want to fight you in the first place.
So you need to make yourself huge from using weights just so you can make people scared of you?
I think that's completely the wrong attitude to have in life. You should be yourself and not care what other people think of you.
If someone wants to fight you it's because you've done something to make them angry. And I'd also bet that walkng around showing your huge arms off and trying to intimidate everyone is being more of a jerk than anything.
And yes Liz Vicious is amazing.
I agree, getting huge not only is pointless, it means nothing in the real world of fighting. The three best martial artists I know don't look like they could ever compete with The Rock. But I'll bet you 60 year old and chubby Doc Fai Wong would be able to throw the guy across the room, even if he is half his height. LOOKING like you are bad is completely different from actually BEING bad. Building huge muscles may earn intimidation from the ignorant, but anyone that could kick your butt not only isn't ever going to challenge you, but until you do something to them, no one generally understands or even considers that they can easily rip you to shreds.
In fact, I found it was much easier being quiet and humble that to go around spouting your superiority. However I have also grown out of the stage where what you are talking about matters. There are very few situations I could get into anymore that would result in a fight and intimidation at my age is more pointless than the conversations that go on on these forums.
People thinking it's fun to fight and it's a good way to resolve issues are stupid, immature and might end up regretting it their whole life one day.
Let me tell you something...When i was 19, i got in a fight in a night club, because some junkie practically raped a close friend of me, who was also only 17. well actually it wasn't much of a fight as i just landed 2 hits and it was over. I had good reasons to get mad and get into a fight, but what did that solve and what did i win out of this ? The guy practically died due to my 1st hit breaking a rib which caused severe internal bleeding, and because of that i got 6 months probation. Now what if the guy actually died ? It would probably have ruined my life and i wouldn't be here now posting on GS.
Now to be honest, i don't really regret it, because of the particular situation in which it happened and the guy didn't die even if it was close, but just to say how easy it can actually be to kill someone unintentionally in a fight and you can ruin your life in a matter of seconds. So think twice before getting into a fight when things can be settled down another way, or you might end up regretting it.
I'm not sure what type of fighting you're referring to. Boxing I find nothing wrong with, it's healthy and teaches you how to defend yourself plus it's pretty fun. On the other hand going outside and picking a no holds barred fight with someone can be very unhealthy.gun65
Of course, I spar, but it is for training and teaching purposes. And it is a great work out. That isn't the same as getting into a street fight though, which I think is generally what we're talking about.
[QUOTE="Fortier"]If you like to fight, that's cool. Just keep it in leagues and ****, and don't use it as a solution just cause you can.
I'm not against fighting, but I'm against fighting for the sake of resolving issues, cause it's absolutely nonsensical.
The_Mac_Daddy
It sure does resolve issues. If someone disrespects you, you keep them in line.
You've been watching too much the testosterone-poison that is Fight Club.
People thinking it's fun to fight and it's a good way to resolve issues are stupid, immature and might end up regretting it their whole life one day.
Let me tell you something...When i was 19, i got in a fight in a night club, because some junkie practically raped a close friend of me, who was also only 17. well actually it wasn't much of a fight as i just landed 2 hits and it was over. I had good reasons to get mad and get into a fight, but what did that solve and what did i win out of this ? The guy practically died due to my 1st hit breaking a rib which caused severe internal bleeding, and because of that i got 6 months probation. Now what if the guy actually died ? It would probably have ruined my life and i wouldn't be here now posting on GS.
Now to be honest, i don't really regret it, because of the particular situation in which it happened and the guy didn't die even if it was close, but just to say how easy it can actually be to kill someone unintentionally in a fight and you can ruin your life in a matter of seconds. So think twice before getting into a fight when things can be settled down another way, or you might end up regretting it.
Tykain
I hear you, in that situation it would be difficult to do anything else, but finding a more productive situation, like calling the cops and making sure the guy gets in trouble for his actions.
But if someone raped anyone I know, well, I'd probably go to prison.
actually most huge dudes are extremely nice. its just that immature jerks dont even try because youll get pwndizzled. seems like a win win to me. ive noticed bulking does help in this situation. im usually a pretty chilled out guy but the people who used to get somewhat cocky with me dont anymore. not that im gonna hit them or anything (because being cocky isnt a big deal) but just because they feel inferior in the attitude department.some people go looking for fights, so its best to have something saying that you arent to be screwed with. this way i dont have to do something i find to be aggrivating.
H8sMikeMoore
The "huge dudes" that get huge for their job/career are nice I'm guessing. But the ones who do it just to show off and have no real reason for getting ripped are just egotistical fools and should be avoided.
And I know some people just go looking for fights but the easy way to get past that obstacle is to simply avoid them. they're easy to spot (most of the chavs who are ruining England are like that) so instead of getting beefed up, trying to intimidate them and associate with them you avoid them.
[QUOTE="Tykain"]People thinking it's fun to fight and it's a good way to resolve issues are stupid, immature and might end up regretting it their whole life one day.
Let me tell you something...When i was 19, i got in a fight in a night club, because some junkie practically raped a close friend of me, who was also only 17. well actually it wasn't much of a fight as i just landed 2 hits and it was over. I had good reasons to get mad and get into a fight, but what did that solve and what did i win out of this ? The guy practically died due to my 1st hit breaking a rib which caused severe internal bleeding, and because of that i got 6 months probation. Now what if the guy actually died ? It would probably have ruined my life and i wouldn't be here now posting on GS.
Now to be honest, i don't really regret it, because of the particular situation in which it happened and the guy didn't die even if it was close, but just to say how easy it can actually be to kill someone unintentionally in a fight and you can ruin your life in a matter of seconds. So think twice before getting into a fight when things can be settled down another way, or you might end up regretting it.
Insane00
I hear you, in that situation it would be difficult to do anything else, but finding a more productive situation, like calling the cops and making sure the guy gets in trouble for his actions.
But if someone raped anyone I know, well, I'd probably go to prison.
He didn't rape her, but he tried to. My friend was trying to get away but in vain as he was forcefully holding her, and when i saw that (I was away talking with some girl and a friend) i got mad and ran up to him and knocked him out.
[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]actually most huge dudes are extremely nice. its just that immature jerks dont even try because youll get pwndizzled. seems like a win win to me. ive noticed bulking does help in this situation. im usually a pretty chilled out guy but the people who used to get somewhat cocky with me dont anymore. not that im gonna hit them or anything (because being cocky isnt a big deal) but just because they feel inferior in the attitude department.some people go looking for fights, so its best to have something saying that you arent to be screwed with. this way i dont have to do something i find to be aggrivating.
ColdRush88
The "huge dudes" that get huge for their job/career are nice I'm guessing. But the ones who do it just to show off and have no real reason for getting ripped are just egotistical fools and should be avoided.
And I know some people just go looking for fights but the easy way to get past that obstacle is to simply avoid them. they're easy to spot (most of the chavs who are ruining England are like that) so instead of getting beefed up, trying to intimidate them and associate with them you avoid them.
you're really stereotyping people who are big. and its really unfair. because ive met tons of really big meatheads and they were some of the most outgoing people ive ever met. they are usually just guys who want to hang out. they get big though, not only because its a hobby, but because they dont want to have to deal with petty drama.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Can you list some of the positives of getting punched in the face, please?cryptosopoidium
If your the one punching it can relive anger. If your not well, there is no positive.
a punching bag serves the same purpose just as well.[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]I'd jsut like to know how getting in a fight with me would help your confidence.....if that's you in the pics you've posted the fight would last 20 seconds and they'ed have to scrape you off the floor......yay confidence?....hell I'd feel more sorry for you than proud of myself.... :|Some of you people crack me up. Getting killed from a fist fight? I'm not going to say it's never happened, but it is so very rare. You don't see UFC fighters getting killed, and they punch a whole hell of a lot harder than your normal joe out on the street.
Secondly, y'all sound like my mother. "Just walk away. Compliments are better for confidence. Hurt them with words." LOL.. are you kidding me?
CIoud_S
LOL..
.. and this is the warrior that would beat me to the floor:
The intimidating face is what gets me :lol:
Because fighting is for primitive screwheads. The only time fighting is justified is in protection of yourself or for someone in danger.TM_Darkside
I bet if some guy tries to get something with your girl or offend her u wont be saying the same.
Well, I almost got in a fight tonight. And seriously, I thought of this thread lol, and decided not to get in a fight. I was at the movies tonight with some people seeing iron man. These guys behind us were being really loud and obnoxious, which was bad enough. But then they throw candy in the air and it hits us. I turn around and tell them to quit that **** we tryin to watch a movie. They said alright they'd stop. 10 minutes later we get hit by some **** again. My friend decided to go get security and they ended up kicking them out.
I was still pissed after security took them out. I felt like a p****. I hate talking to police in situations like that. I feel like a coward doin that ****. That was a pretty petty situation. I usually won't fight in a petty situation especially at a public place like a movie theater. But it still pisses me off because I'd want to fight the *******. Oh well.
But honestly, I never start fights. Y'all got the wrong impression in this thread. I'm just quicker to fight someone than other people usually are I guess.
psh why fight when you can just saw someone in half in Gears of War?
grow balls, dominate your fear, and be a gentlemen. and i promise u, you'll rarely be involved in fights.midditotrue words right there. i appreciate the input
im all for organized fighting like boxing/MMA
but street fighting/jumps depending on how old you are and where you live is just an easy way to get killed.
If you are still in school and like fighting test your skill in boxing or MMA. Other wise you are just some little punk waiting to get his ass kicked by someone bigger than you.
read my post and tell me how it goes ;)Well, I almost got in a fight tonight. And seriously, I thought of this thread lol, and decided not to get in a fight. I was at the movies tonight with some people seeing iron man. These guys behind us were being really loud and obnoxious, which was bad enough. But then they throw candy in the air and it hits us. I turn around and tell them to quit that **** we tryin to watch a movie. They said alright they'd stop. 10 minutes later we get hit by some **** again. My friend decided to go get security and they ended up kicking them out.
I was still pissed after security took them out. I felt like a p****. I hate talking to police in situations like that. I feel like a coward doin that ****. That was a pretty petty situation. I usually won't fight in a petty situation especially at a public place like a movie theater. But it still pisses me off because I'd want to fight the *******. Oh well.
But honestly, I never start fights. Y'all got the wrong impression in this thread. I'm just quicker to fight someone than other people usually are I guess.
The_Mac_Daddy
[QUOTE="Fortier"]If you like to fight, that's cool. Just keep it in leagues and ****, and don't use it as a solution just cause you can.
I'm not against fighting, but I'm against fighting for the sake of resolving issues, cause it's absolutely nonsensical.
The_Mac_Daddy
It sure does resolve issues. If someone disrespects you, you keep them in line.
Maybe you should keep your selfesteem in line aswellPlease Log In to post.
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