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#251 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"] Most Christians don't do that... Christianity is based around faith... you go to Church and listen and they talk about faith... there's this little thing called faith. Faith =/= fact. Just saying.GHlegend77

I completely agree with you but, as they used to say, "he started it" so if someone is gonna generalize me, I am gonna sling it right back at them.

Anyway, I do not believe most Christians are as bad as that. Most Christians are generally good, kind ,and accepting people. Most religious people, in fact.

They just forget that the Bible and religion is not meant to be taken literally; its full of good lessons if you take it for what is is, but that is about it. Do you really believe the sea parted, that a staff turned into a snake, and that a bush talked?

Well, if God should exist and he can do the things that people have said he could and that the Bible says he could, than it's entirely possible. But at the same time, we all have our own opinions, and the freedom to express such. I understand why you generalized back, and am sorry that I took a little offense to it. Then again, even though the Divine God that is talked about may, and in my beliefs does, exist, the Bible is a collection of letters written by people. Did Jesus perform the miracles? We don't know, as we have no solid proof of such, only a possible spectator's tellings. As I always say when I'm talking over beliefs with someone who has opposing beliefs to mine, though, I choose to be on the safe side should God exist, you have your beliefs and I have mine.

fair enough, and sorry if I came off abrasive in my earlier posts. Its late/early lol and I just got done working 16 out of the last 17 days rofl

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#252 GHlegend77
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

I completely agree with you but, as they used to say, "he started it" so if someone is gonna generalize me, I am gonna sling it right back at them.

Anyway, I do not believe most Christians are as bad as that. Most Christians are generally good, kind ,and accepting people. Most religious people, in fact.

They just forget that the Bible and religion is not meant to be taken literally; its full of good lessons if you take it for what is is, but that is about it. Do you really believe the sea parted, that a staff turned into a snake, and that a bush talked?

Well, if God should exist and he can do the things that people have said he could and that the Bible says he could, than it's entirely possible. But at the same time, we all have our own opinions, and the freedom to express such. I understand why you generalized back, and am sorry that I took a little offense to it. Then again, even though the Divine God that is talked about may, and in my beliefs does, exist, the Bible is a collection of letters written by people. Did Jesus perform the miracles? We don't know, as we have no solid proof of such, only a possible spectator's tellings. As I always say when I'm talking over beliefs with someone who has opposing beliefs to mine, though, I choose to be on the safe side should God exist, you have your beliefs and I have mine.

fair enough, and sorry if I came off abrasive in my earlier posts. Its late/early lol and I just got done working 16 out of the last 17 days rofl

Oh, I understand :P And it's no big deal, I could care less. I just have like this little thing that goes off in my head to defend what I believe :P haha
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#253 rockerbikie
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

I completely agree with you but, as they used to say, "he started it" so if someone is gonna generalize me, I am gonna sling it right back at them.

Anyway, I do not believe most Christians are as bad as that. Most Christians are generally good, kind ,and accepting people. Most religious people, in fact.

They just forget that the Bible and religion is not meant to be taken literally; its full of good lessons if you take it for what is is, but that is about it. Do you really believe the sea parted, that a staff turned into a snake, and that a bush talked?

Well, if God should exist and he can do the things that people have said he could and that the Bible says he could, than it's entirely possible. But at the same time, we all have our own opinions, and the freedom to express such. I understand why you generalized back, and am sorry that I took a little offense to it. Then again, even though the Divine God that is talked about may, and in my beliefs does, exist, the Bible is a collection of letters written by people. Did Jesus perform the miracles? We don't know, as we have no solid proof of such, only a possible spectator's tellings. As I always say when I'm talking over beliefs with someone who has opposing beliefs to mine, though, I choose to be on the safe side should God exist, you have your beliefs and I have mine.

fair enough, and sorry if I came off abrasive in my earlier posts. Its late/early lol and I just got done working 16 out of the last 17 days rofl

No problem man.
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#254 foxhound_fox
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What do you know, another religion thread...

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If you aren't going to contribute to the topic at hand, why even post? Some of us enjoy discussing religion. I personally am looking to turn it into a career (that is, the academic study of religion and become a professor in religious studies). If you don't like these threads, why not just ignore them?

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#255 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="ex-mortis"]

What do you know, another religion thread...

foxhound_fox

If you aren't going to contribute to the topic at hand, why even post? Some of us enjoy discussing religion. I personally am looking to turn it into a career (that is, the academic study of religion and become a professor in religious studies). If you don't like these threads, why not just ignore them?

Aren't you an Atheist though?
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="ex-mortis"]

What do you know, another religion thread...

Snipes_2

If you aren't going to contribute to the topic at hand, why even post? Some of us enjoy discussing religion. I personally am looking to turn it into a career (that is, the academic study of religion and become a professor in religious studies). If you don't like these threads, why not just ignore them?

Aren't you an Atheist though?

atheist can find religion interesting. I know I do

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I blame Richard Dawkins. :P
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#258 Danm_999
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Thanks for the definition, are you trying to insult my intelligence?Espada12
No, I was trying to break through your obstinance.
Do you really believe he was sitting there just listening to a conversation about robin hood? Really??? Really???

Espada12

Yes, possibly. I'd be lying if I said I'd never listened to someone elses conversation at a restaraunt or a public place.Maybe he only heard the last sentence by accident, who knows. Occam's Razor supports my interpretation, not yours.

The alternative suggests the father and son had a convoluted conversation to bait any nearby listeners into defending the Bible.

Anyway, your whole "live and let live" point is blown out of the water by the fact that even if the Christian heard something they disagreed with, to pull the son aside and lecture him is totally innappropriate. You don't pull aside a stranger and lecture them on why their views are wrong. It's rude and condescending.

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#259 Danm_999
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. I would also like to note that attempting to use that as a evidence that "Atheists are generally incapable of living and letting live" is a fantastic way of making yourself look hopelessly biased, especially when you're not denouncing the guy who stuck his nose into the conversation and attempted to lecture the TC.

Barbariser

Hit the nail on the head.

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#260 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] If you aren't going to contribute to the topic at hand, why even post? Some of us enjoy discussing religion. I personally am looking to turn it into a career (that is, the academic study of religion and become a professor in religious studies). If you don't like these threads, why not just ignore them?

mrbojangles25

Aren't you an Atheist though?

atheist can find religion interesting. I know I do

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me.
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#261 foxhound_fox
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Aren't you an Atheist though?Snipes_2

Yes. What does that have to do with anything?

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me. Snipes_2

Why? Because someone with a bias towards a particular religion is better suited to be teaching a secular, non-biased course approaching all religions equally? I'm not an atheist because I *want* to be one; I am one because no religion has convinced me yet. I still can find religious belief, ritual and mythology incredibly interesting, and want to fuel a movement towards greater knowledge of world cultures and tolerance towards them (stems from understanding).

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#262 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Aren't you an Atheist though?foxhound_fox


Yes. What does that have to do with anything?

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me. Snipes_2

Why? Because someone with a bias towards a particular religion is better suited to be teaching a secular, non-biased course approaching all religions equally? I'm not an atheist because I *want* to be one; I am one because no religion has convinced me yet. I still can find religious belief, ritual and mythology incredibly interesting, and want to fuel a movement towards greater knowledge of world cultures and tolerance towards them (stems from understanding).

Like I said, I just found it strange that an Atheist is teaching about Religion. You don't see that as Odd?

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They're hated because they're different from the religious part of society, which is quite a bit.

But also because the teenagers are 'non-conformists' and would do anything to piss off their parents for no real reason. :P

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Like I said, I just found it strange that an Atheist is teaching about Religion. You don't see that as Odd?

Snipes_2


Do you have a reason why you see it as "odd"? Many of the great minds over the past couple centuries who have contributed to the academic study of religion have been non-religious. What about being religious gives someone more authority to teach religion? If anything, that gives them less authority, since they are more likely to be inclined to teach in a biased manner and give more focus towards their particular religious belief, and unfairly represent others.

The academic study of religion, in secular universities is just that, secular. It is an approach to the study of religion that doesn't involve becoming a part of the religion. You come to understand their perspective by studying their beliefs, rituals and mythology, but do not practice it yourself. It is just like history, but you are learning about a specific part of the culture, not just the whole thing (though, many older cultures were basically rooted in their religion, i.e. Ancient Babylonian/Assyrian religion).

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Like I said, I just found it strange that an Atheist is teaching about Religion. You don't see that as Odd?

foxhound_fox


Do you have a reason why you see it as "odd"? Many of the great minds over the past couple centuries who have contributed to the academic study of religion have been non-religious. What about being religious gives someone more authority to teach religion? If anything, that gives them less authority, since they are more likely to be inclined to teach in a biased manner and give more focus towards their particular religious belief, and unfairly represent others.

The academic study of religion, in secular universities is just that, secular. It is an approach to the study of religion that doesn't involve becoming a part of the religion. You come to understand their perspective by studying their beliefs, rituals and mythology, but do not practice it yourself. It is just like history, but you are learning about a specific part of the culture, not just the whole thing (though, many older cultures were basically rooted in their religion, i.e. Ancient Babylonian/Assyrian religion).

You're covering a Broad Variety of Religions or just one Specific Religion?

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#266 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Way to generalize based on personal experiences...in my observation they aren't treated harshly or any differently...in fact, i don't even care if you're an atheist..don't attack my beliefs and i won't attack yours..

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#267 GHlegend77
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Aren't you an Atheist though?Snipes_2

atheist can find religion interesting. I know I do

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me.

Can't you imagine the disrespectful Atheist religion teacher? "Ok people, now I'm going to teach you about Christianity, WHICH IS FALSE. And then later, I'll teach you all about Muslim beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE. Then I am going to teach you guys about Islam beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE," :lol:
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#268 GHlegend77
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Aren't you an Atheist though?Snipes_2

atheist can find religion interesting. I know I do

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me.

In all seriousness, why? A non-religious Religion teacher would probably be a better one than a religious one, as the only bias, if any, would be against all religions, or none at all.
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#269 ProjectTrinity
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Why are Christians hated so much? I'm sure we can find answers for both sides thar.

I mean, really? This week I told someone at the Summer Camp I am going to that I am an atheist. Now, no one even talks to me and they call me "Devil Worshiper." Seriously?

mr_poodles123
I personally don't think Christians automatically say Atheists are Devil Worshipers. Including your camp, unless you're like, young.
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#270 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Aren't you an Atheist though?Snipes_2

atheist can find religion interesting. I know I do

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me.

strange is inuncommon, sure, but I imagine an atheist would be the best teacher of religious studies due to being objective about it.

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You're covering a Broad Variety of Religions or just one Specific Religion?

Snipes_2


If I were to get my Masters and Doctorate at the University of Manitoba (where I got my undergrad), then I would most likely be teaching there as well (given that alumni Doctorate graduates are given greater privilege than non-alumni). The university's Department of Religion requires that all Religion professors teach a course that covers world religions (it is called World Religions ironically).

However, since a Doctorate professor would have a much more focused degree than just all world religions, they also would be able to teach courses in their specific field as well (i.e. my Buddhism professor specialized in Mahayana Buddhism, and taught a course on Theravada, Mahayana, Vajrayana and Zen), so it would be a combination of focused on a particular religion as well as broad groupings.

Also, the university is secular, so the approach to the teaching of religion is also secular; i.e. you don't teach the students how to practice the religion, but you teach them about the religion.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

atheist can find religion interesting. I know I do

GHlegend77

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me.

Can't you imagine the disrespectful Atheist religion teacher? "Ok people, now I'm going to teach you about Christianity, WHICH IS FALSE. And then later, I'll teach you all about Muslim beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE. Then I am going to teach you guys about Islam beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE," :lol:

I don't care. I lol'd hard at this. You win a Symphonycometh cookie. xD

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[QUOTE="ProjectTrinity"]Why are Christians hated so much? I'm sure we can find answers for both sides thar. [QUOTE="mr_poodles123"]

I mean, really? This week I told someone at the Summer Camp I am going to that I am an atheist. Now, no one even talks to me and they call me "Devil Worshiper." Seriously?

I personally don't think Christians automatically say Atheists are Devil Worshipers. Including your camp, unless you're like, young.

I told my friend today that I was against going to Church and he was like "**** off don't talk to me you hate church" because we were chatting on facebook and I was like "When the **** did I say I hated Church?" and I was just like :?
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

atheist can find religion interesting. I know I do

GHlegend77

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me.

In all seriousness, why? A non-religious Religion teacher would probably be a better one than a religious one, as the only bias, if any, would be against all religions, or none at all.

I don't think Religious teachers have a Bias. I have a Catholic English Professor and he gives us Poems etc...Explicitly referencing to Homosexuality. While he discusses the material he doesn't negatively portray the Poem or the Author based on his views.

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#275 GHlegend77
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[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me. Snipes_2

In all seriousness, why? A non-religious Religion teacher would probably be a better one than a religious one, as the only bias, if any, would be against all religions, or none at all.

I don't think Religious teachers have a Bias. I have a Catholic English Professor and he gives us Poems etc...Explicitly referencing to Homosexuality. While he discusses the material he doesn't negatively portray the Poem or the Author based on his views.

I'm not talking about teaching individual religion beliefs, I'm talking about a religion as a whole. Like a Christian or a Muslim teacher might be more inclined to teach Christian beliefs and Muslim beliefs, respectively, whereas an Atheist teacher has no religion so he wouldn't feel more inclined to teach a specific religion.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"] In all seriousness, why? A non-religious Religion teacher would probably be a better one than a religious one, as the only bias, if any, would be against all religions, or none at all.GHlegend77

I don't think Religious teachers have a Bias. I have a Catholic English Professor and he gives us Poems etc...Explicitly referencing to Homosexuality. While he discusses the material he doesn't negatively portray the Poem or the Author based on his views.

I'm not talking about teaching individual religion beliefs, I'm talking about a religion as a whole. Like a Christian or a Muslim teacher might be more inclined to teach Christian beliefs and Muslim beliefs, respectively, whereas an Atheist teacher has no religion so he wouldn't feel more inclined to teach a specific religion.

Well, I had an Atheist Teacher in History and we were discussing religion (Mormons, Puritans etc..). We were discussing their beliefs in getting to Heaven (Ie. Work HArd etc..) and she brought up a story about her Grnadmother always worrying about getting to Heaven. She said not to "Worry about that Crap".

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#277 GHlegend77
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I don't think Religious teachers have a Bias. I have a Catholic English Professor and he gives us Poems etc...Explicitly referencing to Homosexuality. While he discusses the material he doesn't negatively portray the Poem or the Author based on his views.

I'm not talking about teaching individual religion beliefs, I'm talking about a religion as a whole. Like a Christian or a Muslim teacher might be more inclined to teach Christian beliefs and Muslim beliefs, respectively, whereas an Atheist teacher has no religion so he wouldn't feel more inclined to teach a specific religion.

Well, I had an Atheist Teacher in History and we were discussing religion (Mormons, Puritans etc..). We were discussing their beliefs in getting to Heaven (Ie. Work HArd etc..) and she brought up a story about her Grnadmother always worrying about getting to Heaven. She said not to "Worry about that Crap".

I did say that Non-religious teachers might have a bias against all religion :P
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

atheist can find religion interesting. I know I do

GHlegend77

I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me.

Can't you imagine the disrespectful Atheist religion teacher? "Ok people, now I'm going to teach you about Christianity, WHICH IS FALSE. And then later, I'll teach you all about Muslim beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE. Then I am going to teach you guys about Islam beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE," :lol:

Muslim beliefs and Islamic beliefs are the same thing. :P

Pick it up dude. :P

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#279 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"] I'm not talking about teaching individual religion beliefs, I'm talking about a religion as a whole. Like a Christian or a Muslim teacher might be more inclined to teach Christian beliefs and Muslim beliefs, respectively, whereas an Atheist teacher has no religion so he wouldn't feel more inclined to teach a specific religion.GHlegend77

Well, I had an Atheist Teacher in History and we were discussing religion (Mormons, Puritans etc..). We were discussing their beliefs in getting to Heaven (Ie. Work HArd etc..) and she brought up a story about her Grnadmother always worrying about getting to Heaven. She said not to "Worry about that Crap".

I did say that Non-religious teachers might have a bias against all religion :P

YEah, It depends on the Teacher I guess. I was just saying "I" Thought it was Odd. Doesn't mean that everyone does.
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#280 GHlegend77
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[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I just find it strange that an Atheist is Teaching Religion. I don't know, Seems odd to me. supa_badman

Can't you imagine the disrespectful Atheist religion teacher? "Ok people, now I'm going to teach you about Christianity, WHICH IS FALSE. And then later, I'll teach you all about Muslim beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE. Then I am going to teach you guys about Islam beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE," :lol:

Muslim beliefs and Islamic beliefs are the same thing. :P

Pick it up dude. :P

Didn't you notice that I said "Islam" instead of "Islamic"? I was showing the teacher's lack of knowledge in that field. :P
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#281 T_REX305
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i dont hate atheist as long as they dont bother people that have Religion.

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#282 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"] Can't you imagine the disrespectful Atheist religion teacher? "Ok people, now I'm going to teach you about Christianity, WHICH IS FALSE. And then later, I'll teach you all about Muslim beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE. Then I am going to teach you guys about Islam beliefs, WHICH ARE FALSE," :lol:GHlegend77

Muslim beliefs and Islamic beliefs are the same thing. :P

Pick it up dude. :P

Didn't you notice that I said "Islam" instead of "Islamic"? I was showing the teacher's lack of knowledge in that field. :P

:o I c whut you did thar.
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#283 ProjectTrinity
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i dont hate atheist as long as they dont bother people that have Religion.

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It's a pity people can't do this often. D:
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#284 foxhound_fox
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[...] whereas an Atheist teacher has no religion so he wouldn't feel more inclined to teach a specific religion.GHlegend77

Not necessarily. Any professor is more likely to teach their focus more than their general knowledge. :P

Its just they would fairly present all traditions equally, instead of hinting at, or outright stating their religion is "right" or "better" (which would get you fired from a secular university).

[...] She said not to "Worry about that Crap".

Snipes_2


That would be inappropriate coming from anyone of any system of belief. Making absolute claims is not for the teacher/professor to decide.

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#285 _R34LiTY_
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Lots of religious people who claim to be open minded are anything but that and so "tolerance"(something Jesus asked his disciples to have in their hearts) completely flies out the window and they become sort of.....bigoted. Anyone who thinks otherwise than they do either "hasnt met 'him' or is misguided/blinded by satan". To them, it can't be anything else but one or the other which to me shows how they're train of thought is stuck in Medieval times thanks to an astrological allegory.

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#286 LJS9502_basic
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I don't hate them.....I just get tired of being preached at for conversion. I don't do that and I expect others to respect beliefs as well.
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#287 Hellfire-1
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[QUOTE="mr_poodles123"][QUOTE="JML897"]:? Is it some sort of religious summer camp? THE_DRUGGIE

No, just a regular YMCA type camp.

Fun fact: YMCA means Youth Men's Christian Association.

I would love to use this as a sig...
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#288 L_17
Member since 2009 • 310 Posts

Seriously why can't we all just get along? Who cares what anyone else believes, just form your own opinions and be respectful that others maybe different. Oh in a ideal world...

I'm personally an atheist, but I have no problem with other peoples beliefs, that is, as long as they don't try to shove theirs down my throat. In return, I would give them the same courtesy. Kinda like with vegetarians or vegans really...

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#289 Hellfire-1
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I don't know why people "hate" atheists, because most of us really are quite careful not to step on others beliefs. I think it is the actual term "atheist" that people misunderstand.
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#290 rikkustrife
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I just don't like the ones that act like what they think is better than religious people and are smarter for not believing in god, when there is as much reason to believe in god as there isn't.

No one can be 100% whether God exists or not

I think the same for religious people who look down on atheists

and people who think religion is bad annoy me
religion itself is not bad, it's people that are

and religion has done a lot of good and bad

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#291 tocklestein2005
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Just tell them to **** off if they can't accept that you don't believe in "god"

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#292 Lach0121
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Anyone that challenges current institutions are "hated"

but to be fair atheists hate too.

The intolerances from both sides of the fence are hypocritical. More compassion and understanding need to be practiced from ALL people period.

We have been a race of angry children for long enough, (my god can kick your gods A$$) (don't cross this line I drew in the sand) (my god hates people like you) resources, money etc.

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#293 ex-mortis
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[QUOTE="ex-mortis"]

What do you know, another religion thread...

foxhound_fox

If you aren't going to contribute to the topic at hand, why even post? Some of us enjoy discussing religion. I personally am looking to turn it into a career (that is, the academic study of religion and become a professor in religious studies). If you don't like these threads, why not just ignore them?

In hindsight that was a useless post, but it's not as if I dislike these threads. Debating can be fun, but this exact same topic is posted about ten times a week. How about a more interesting discussion than "Does God exist? Yes or no?". Two completely conflicting sides there, and these discussions almost always result in a stalemate. It's a question that cannot yet be answered, possibly never, so there is no point in asking it. I wouldn't mind if it were asked only once a week or so, but this is basically the main question raised in these topics. I've grown quite bored of them by now. Which brings us back to the question you raised: Why did I post? Boredom, I suppose. I'm not quite sure.

EDIT: It's important that you realize I'm not at all insinuating that hypothesis on the issue is useless. Not at all. If you can take a question like so and instead of bringing forth an ambiguous or illegitimate answer you change it into an open-minded debate, hypothesizing and making speculations, then fine. Speculation on the issue is not at all pointles. However, having a black-and-white debate on the issue, two sides attacking the other taking on a purely offensive stance, that is pointless and doesn't end in anything but an impasse.

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#294 Grodus5
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Probably because they are almost as bad as racial minorities in the area of political correctness. I don't have a problem with them taking out the "Under God" in the pledge (I'm talking about America here) nor do I have a problem taking out the "In God we Trust" off the dollar, but that represents a huge logistical undertaking if we are to completely eradicate the In God We Trust bills. Anyway, I don't have anything against athiests myself, I actually like them a lot more than the overly religious people, but I can see why some people would hate them.

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#295 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="ex-mortis"]

What do you know, another religion thread...

ex-mortis

If you aren't going to contribute to the topic at hand, why even post? Some of us enjoy discussing religion. I personally am looking to turn it into a career (that is, the academic study of religion and become a professor in religious studies). If you don't like these threads, why not just ignore them?

In hindsight that was a useless post, but it's not as if I dislike these threads. Debating can be fun, but this exact same topic is posted about ten times a week. How about a more interesting discussion than "Does God exist? Yes or no?". Two completely conflicting sides there, and these discussions almost always result in a stalemate. It's a question that cannot yet be answered, possibly never, so there is no point in asking it. I wouldn't mind if it were asked only once a week or so, but this is basically the main question raised in these topics. I've grown quite bored of them by now. Which brings us back to the question you raised: Why did I post? Boredom, I suppose. I'm not quite sure.

Or you could have mentioned if he didn't like your post....he could have ignored it.:P
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#296 Lach0121
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Probably because they are almost as bad as racial minorities in the area of political correctness. I don't have a problem with them taking out the "Under God" in the pledge (I'm talking about America here) nor do I have a problem taking out the "In God we Trust" off the dollar, but that represents a huge logistical undertaking if we are to completely eradicate the In God We Trust bills. Anyway, I don't have anything against athiests myself, I actually like them a lot more than the overly religious people, but I can see why some people would hate them.

Grodus5

I actually think that Christians would want "in god we trust" off the dollar... (that is if they even bothered to read the red words in their book, instead of just blindly following.

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into the kingdom" (so why is In God We Trust, still on the dollar? because sadly most people are in a state of oblivion.

I find the concept of a capitalist jesus, actually ironically funny.

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#297 L_17
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Anyone that challenges current institutions are "hated"

but to be fair atheists hate too.

The intolerances from both sides of the fence are hypocritical. More compassion and understanding need to be practiced from ALL people period.

We have been a race of angry children for long enough, (my god can kick your gods A$$) (don't cross this line I drew in the sand) (my god hates people like you) resources, money etc.

Lach0121

So true.

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#298 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Grodus5"]

Probably because they are almost as bad as racial minorities in the area of political correctness. I don't have a problem with them taking out the "Under God" in the pledge (I'm talking about America here) nor do I have a problem taking out the "In God we Trust" off the dollar, but that represents a huge logistical undertaking if we are to completely eradicate the In God We Trust bills. Anyway, I don't have anything against athiests myself, I actually like them a lot more than the overly religious people, but I can see why some people would hate them.

Lach0121

I actually think that Christians would want "in god we trust" off the dollar... (that is if they even bothered to read the red words in their book, instead of just blindly following.

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into the kingdom" (so why is In God We Trust, still on the dollar? because sadly most people are in a state of oblivion.

I find the concept of a capitalist jesus, actually ironically funny.

The camel analogy is misapplied here...nonetheless you may recall Jesus telling people to render unto caesar what is caesars....ie tax money.;)

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#299 UltimoIce
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I mean, really? This week I told someone at the Summer Camp I am going to that I am an atheist. Now, no one even talks to me and they call me "Devil Worshiper." Seriously?

mr_poodles123

Actually, it's cool now to be an athiest. Christians are the ones picked on anymore.

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#300 shinian
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Just tell them to **** off if they can't accept that you don't believe in "god"

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I found a more effective solution. If someone is trying to start the whole God-loves-us-all conversation I say that I already belive in Flying Spaghetti Monster who is God of Gods and welcomes every human being to his noodle kingdom.

It's a 100%, bulletproof method to scare the preachers away.