Why do people think anime is weird?

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#151 Hatiko
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I asked a question. No need to make Shananigans about cars and no engines when we talkin about a show

 

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#152 Chloroformality
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I asked a question. No need to make Shananigans about cars and no engines when we talkin about a show

 

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Analogies are best referenced with something people will generally understand. 

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[QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"]I don't like your comment on visual simulation, mainly because visual stimulation is 50% of filmmaking. But the whole problem I find with your argument is that you're using your literary backround to judge visual arts.Chloroformality

What people fail to realize is that all of these Anime's you watch start on paper. And I don't mean the drawings, I mean the foundation, the story of the animation. A lot of them rely very heavily on story, but a lot of Japanese studios don't know how to tell the right story.

I'm not even going to give them the benefit of the doubt, they suck at it.

*sigh*..... Alright..... It's like a kid when he's finger painting. He takes every color he can possibly use and smudges it onto the paper, thinking it'll make it better or more interesting. That's contemporary Japanese storytelling. Cramming complimentary colors together, thinking the "unique" variation of warm and cools will make it more interesting.

Well, it does, but that doesn't make it good.

I base the stories of anime off of literature because, well..... they're stories. Just because they're told on cells doesn't mean that they too can be as overly-stylized as the look in which they're portrayed.

Heart of Darkness was told in a Vietnam setting. Same story, completely different setting which is strangely stylized. Why did it work? STOOOORRRYYYY.

Answer me this. How great would these Animes be if they were just books. No illustrations... no visual medium whatsoever... just your own brain...

.......... how well do you then think they'd be recieved?

That's an interesting way to look at it, but what if those literary works you are referencing were stripped down to the illustrations? At the end of the day the visuals are very important. I'm not sure what deep artistic/literary merit is worth because at the end of the day it's about entertainment.

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#154 mastersword007
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[QUOTE="dawso0n"]

[QUOTE="Hinata237"][QUOTE="Eman5805"]Anime is fine. Hentai is weird.Hinata237


Hentai is awesome:D

NO! dude hentai is animes evil brother (i still carnt beleive that sometimes i find cartoons attractive then i snap out of it!)

(image)

Yay:D



Seen much better...FUGLY
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#155 Chloroformality
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[QUOTE="Chloroformality"]

[QUOTE="lemonfreshpanda"]I don't like your comment on visual simulation, mainly because visual stimulation is 50% of filmmaking. But the whole problem I find with your argument is that you're using your literary backround to judge visual arts.Articuno76

What people fail to realize is that all of these Anime's you watch start on paper. And I don't mean the drawings, I mean the foundation, the story of the animation. A lot of them rely very heavily on story, but a lot of Japanese studios don't know how to tell the right story.

I'm not even going to give them the benefit of the doubt, they suck at it.

*sigh*..... Alright..... It's like a kid when he's finger painting. He takes every color he can possibly use and smudges it onto the paper, thinking it'll make it better or more interesting. That's contemporary Japanese storytelling. Cramming complimentary colors together, thinking the "unique" variation of warm and cools will make it more interesting.

Well, it does, but that doesn't make it good.

I base the stories of anime off of literature because, well..... they're stories. Just because they're told on cells doesn't mean that they too can be as overly-stylized as the look in which they're portrayed.

Heart of Darkness was told in a Vietnam setting. Same story, completely different setting which is strangely stylized. Why did it work? STOOOORRRYYYY.

Answer me this. How great would these Animes be if they were just books. No illustrations... no visual medium whatsoever... just your own brain...

.......... how well do you then think they'd be recieved?

That's an interesting way to look at it, but what if those literary works you are referencing were stripped down to the illustrations? At the end of the day the visuals are very important. I'm not sure what deep artistic/literary merit is worth because at the end of the day it's about entertainment.

Well, those books would have been stripped of their real message and purpose. A picture can be worth a thousand words, but very rarely are they even worth 50.

Words remain the same, alone as words. Pictures lose their meaning without any explanation, usually provided by words. 

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#156 -Water-Wings-
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I liked it when I was younger than I just grew out of it ( Really fast. ) and today I am glad I got out of anime.

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#157 Hatiko
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Theres little kid shows with puppets and songs and cartoons and there are sitcoms and big action movies and theres also anime. Isnt it just another part of entertainment?
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#158 MOM-D
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People that dont like it is probably lame....
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#159 AB_Uppercut
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Anime is AWESOME ! how is it weird :?

my favourite is FIST OF THE NORTH STAR

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#160 Acenso
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The people who just generalize anime is for kiddies...Are no better then those people that sit there and whine about how adult it is
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#161 PlayedThemAll
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I don't like generlizations.. no one thinks anime is weird maybe people you know do but I don't know them so why do you bring your questions here?
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#162 godismyfirewall
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Anyone who thinks anime is weird are what i call mundanes.Conventional people who watch American Idol,South Park and other american crap that is void of anything original.:roll:
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#163 godismyfirewall
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I don't like generlizations.. no one thinks anime is weird maybe people you know do but I don't know them so why do you bring your questions here?PlayedThemAll
Cause he's a free individual whose excercising his free will,quite a concept is'nt it.:P
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#164 Articuno76
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Well, those books would have been stripped of their real message and purpose. A picture can be worth a thousand words, but very rarely are they even worth 50.

Words remain the same, alone as words. Pictures lose their meaning without any explanation, usually provided by words.

Chloroformality

So your point is that on story alone they are weak? Did you consider that, that might say something about how the story-telling style weaves visual and non-visual elements more tightly together than their western counterparts? It can be a pro as well as a con depending on how you look at it, the way you are trying to attach meaning to manga is pretty absurd since you aren't even comparing them validly to something like say...a comic book or graphic novel. If you want to compare what is on screen to what orignated on paper then you have to be fair and have the sources equivilent.

 

 

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#165 sthadji
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Because, at least to me, it is weird.
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#166 ArmoredAshes
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i dont get it either. not only is alot of it porn. but even the ones done profesionaly are boring. iv watched em...hip-hop-cola

anime isnt porn.....HENTAI is porn.. 

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#167 Guiltfeeder566
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Becuase people, who are young, watch shows like Pokemon and Sailermoon and when they grow out of childhood they look back on these things and see them as childish. I know becuase i used too think the same way before i saw Spirited away, which completly shifted my opionion.

BTW, Eureka Seven is the best anime ever.

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#168 Versus_XIII
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I still like it ever since I went to Japan. :wink:
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#169 Hatiko
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Anyone who thinks anime is weird are what i call mundanes.Conventional people who watch American Idol,South Park and other american crap that is void of anything original.:roll:godismyfirewall

Thanks.

And godismyfirewall how the heck am i supposed to know that exactly where you are people don't think anime is weird?

Huh?

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#170 Erasorn
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Anyone who thinks anime is weird are what i call mundanes.Conventional people who watch American Idol,South Park and other american crap that is void of anything original.:roll:godismyfirewall
Whatchu got against South Park? :o I'm afraid I havn't seen anything like some of the episodes of that show elsewhere.. It's not like it's not weird either.. :lol:
I still think(even though I like it) that anime is weird, the plots are simply outrageous! :lol: But that's also one of the reason why it's fun imo. 

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[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola"]i dont get it either. not only is alot of it porn. but even the ones done profesionaly are boring. iv watched em...ArmoredAshes

anime isnt porn.....HENTAI is porn..

meh same thing both japanese, both pile of crap. i think its for ppl who cant really draw....(i cant draw **** but i dont say i can and draw anime)

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#172 blooddemon666
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people are inherently xenophobic.
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#173 Hatiko
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Just... out of curiosity what does that phobia mean?
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#174 blooddemon666
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Just... out of curiosity what does that phobia mean?Hatiko
fear of other cultures
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#175 Mindlessworks
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FLCL is pretty weird I remember, I couldn't even follow the plot it was so weird
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#176 bobstrife
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i dont get it either. not only is alot of it porn. but even the ones done profesionaly are boring. iv watched em...hip-hop-cola
but i guess you like it seeing your avatar
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#177 Gohu
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I like ANIME alot. Deal with it and who ever doesnt i think is kinda weird.
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#178 PitaGriffin
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I find it weird because some of its characters are multi-gender freaks. Also, I find it weird because of this: (make sure you see the last one!) http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif3.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif2.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif1.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif0.gif
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#179 blooddemon666
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I find it weird because some of its characters are multi-gender freaks. Also, I find it weird because of this: http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif3.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif2.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif1.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif0.gifPitaGriffin
I lol'd at those WTF
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[QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I find it weird because some of its characters are multi-gender freaks. Also, I find it weird because of this: http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif3.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif2.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif1.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif0.gifblooddemon666
I lol'd at those WTF

Yeah - I know. It's a gif from the manga/anime "Eiken", where some of the girls have enormous breasts, and the main character, Densuke, who's a boy, sometimes gets stuck in the middle of these breasts, and it turns into a funny disaster. Read it for yourself here - it goes character by character, and even mentions the breast size of some of them - the largest breasts in this anime are "K-cup" breasts. I've never actually seen it, but I've seen little videos here and there on the internet. I can't even imagine what K-cup breasts look like. The gifs I showed you were of the character "kirika", and her breasts are G-cup size! Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiken
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#181 blooddemon666
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[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I find it weird because some of its characters are multi-gender freaks. Also, I find it weird because of this: http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif3.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif2.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif1.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif0.gifPitaGriffin
I lol'd at those WTF

Yeah - I know. It's a gif from the manga/anime "Eiken", where some of the girls have enormous breasts, and the main character, Densuke, who's a boy, sometimes gets stuck in the middle of these breasts, and it turns into a funny disaster. Read it for yourself here - it goes character by character, and even mentions the breast size of some of them - the largest breasts in this anime are "K-cup" breasts. I've never actually seen it, but I've seen little videos here and there on the internet. I can't even imagine what K-cup breasts look like. The gifs I showed you were of the character "kirika", and her breasts are G-cup size! Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiken

I'm frightened by the animations though :o I don't want to learn any more about it than the animations.
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#182 Chloroformality
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[QUOTE="Chloroformality"]

Well, those books would have been stripped of their real message and purpose. A picture can be worth a thousand words, but very rarely are they even worth 50.

Words remain the same, alone as words. Pictures lose their meaning without any explanation, usually provided by words.

Articuno76

So your point is that on story alone they are weak? Did you consider that, that might say something about how the story-telling style weaves visual and non-visual elements more tightly together than their western counterparts? It can be a pro as well as a con depending on how you look at it, the way you are trying to attach meaning to manga is pretty absurd since you aren't even comparing them validly to something like say...a comic book or graphic novel. If you want to compare what is on screen to what orignated on paper then you have to be fair and have the sources equivilent.

 

 

I'm talking about visual medium all together. Graphic novels alone, manga or western, tend to be pretty bland in terms of story. Enough basics are given to have bulk and slight purpose to why Character A is fighting Character B.

A story can be good or not, with or without the visual aid. First and foremost, visual aid is nothing more than to gain the interest of the reader/viewer more densly. It all depends, though. I've read graphic novels that use panels as, more or less, simple storyboards to help the story (which is what was focused on the most). They were better, in my opinion, because they didn't sacrefice purpose for paint, if you know what I mean.

This is why comic book films tend to be a little.... eh..... iffy. Not only is it tricky to mimic the style of a graphic novel into live action - and make it work - but film is also a story heavy medium and they can sometimes suffer because of that; the expectations for a gripping tale are much higher than in comics alone.

A comic usually sticks to the basics: Hero, Villain/Antagonist, Sidekick, a quest, obstacles (usually physical), and a climax. It's enough to give objectives to their characters, instead of just making people fight...... which also sometimes happens...

I don't like that. I leave visual stimulation to the children. 

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#183 PitaGriffin
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[QUOTE="PitaGriffin"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I find it weird because some of its characters are multi-gender freaks. Also, I find it weird because of this: http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif3.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif2.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif1.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KirikaGif0.gifblooddemon666
I lol'd at those WTF

Yeah - I know. It's a gif from the manga/anime "Eiken", where some of the girls have enormous breasts, and the main character, Densuke, who's a boy, sometimes gets stuck in the middle of these breasts, and it turns into a funny disaster. Read it for yourself here - it goes character by character, and even mentions the breast size of some of them - the largest breasts in this anime are "K-cup" breasts. I've never actually seen it, but I've seen little videos here and there on the internet. I can't even imagine what K-cup breasts look like. The gifs I showed you were of the character "kirika", and her breasts are G-cup size! Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiken

I'm frightened by the animations though :o I don't want to learn any more about it than the animations.

You're probably doing yourself a favor. lol
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#184 SpaceMoose
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I have no idea.

                                                         

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#185 Taegukki
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because people are closed mindedsteppinrazor88

Or perhaps we just have different tastes from you? :| 

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#186 tehdiabetic
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Anime is one show?

It's because of the, for the most part, bad english dubs, I say.

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The English terrible dubing can make the show more funny. If you ant to see finny dubing. got to youtube and trype in : Yu-gi-oh the abridged series. that is amazing.

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#187 Aznsilvrboy
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Yeah..because anime can all be generalized under one word..
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#188 Hatiko
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Whoops sorry godismyfirewall. I meant to say PlayedThemAll.
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#189 RogerC44
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I like animes they're pretty cool. But some of them are kind of boring.
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#190 Doomlike_Mitc
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The pr0n is really bad... tough I must addmit most of it is bad so it doesnt matter. But the shows are ok, tough IMO there a litle overhyped.
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#191 Kity_Kira
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They think anime is childish... =/

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#192 freakyzeeky1986
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because i used to like anime, until i saw some f***ed up hentai. *shudders*blooddemon666
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#193 trophylocoste
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Well I do like some animes about like 5 of them there nothing bad about them. We all have our opinions
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#194 southy787
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People who usually say that have seen one anime that they didn't like, and assume everything else is the same, when in reality, anime is targeted at a wide range of age groups, and there's a vast array of different genres, in the same way that there are different genres of films. You don't like all films, so why would people like all anime?
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#195 LexLas
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I think it takes imagination which many people lack. I mean not everyone is into movies like Lord of the Rings but the majority is. So I believe there are more people who enjoy animation then there is not. I mean just look at the prices on these movie, there are high. I personally really like animation but there are some which are just plain weak, they make it bad for the great ones.
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#196 Hatiko
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Ya. You are right. There are more animes than movies that are for a wide range of ages.

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#197 deactivated-58e533ed44b01
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I love animes, just check out my picture...lol

but when it came to joining the anime club in my school, I was like HELL NO!!

 the people in the club are pure outcast and weirdos, and I mean it, they are obessed with animes to a level I dont think I have liked anything. 

 

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#198 Hatiko
Member since 2006 • 4669 Posts
Ya. I think the wierdos are the ones who think that a character is hot. i mean, that is just going a little too far. How can you think and animated, 2D, and fake person is hot?
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#199 PitaGriffin
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Oh yeah - I also think anime is weird because of this: http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/ChiharuGif0.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/ChiharuGif1.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KomoeGif0.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/Komoe7.jpg http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/KomonGif0.gif http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/Eiken/Eiken1D.jpg P.S. - in the last image, that's JUST yogurt smothered all over her - I believe in that scene, she just came off of a "white yogurt" slide. These pictures/gifs are the precise reason I think anime is weird - the pink-haired girl, who looks like she's 5, has breasts that look like they're more weight than her body. I mean, you HAVE to be weird to come up with a "cartoon porno" (no, the things I posted were not from a "hentai" anime). Even "normal" anime that's usually on a lot, like Inu Yasha, has people that look like they could go either way, in terms of gender. Also, I find there to be a strange relationship between gothic people, anime, and Dance Dance Revolution lol.
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#200 nintendorocks
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I like anime.