Why does it seem socially acceptable for guys to....

Because women dont really have sex just for the sake of having sex, its more of a way to get what they want..... Generally speaking.

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[QUOTE="Abbeten"] how is this at all an answer?Abbeten

What? Should we respect a slut because all she need to do is open her legs to have plenty of sex?

To be a casanova you must have confidence, charm, class, know how to talk to women, social skills, image, and one can argue, money

I can see why a casanova is respected among men and women viewed as slut among society. Seriously, if your a woman you can go with almost anyone aslong you're willing to do it. A men however... its not so easy.

[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

What? Should we respect a slut because all she need to do is open her legs to have plenty of sex?

To be a casanova you must have confidence, charm, class, know how to talk to women, social skills, image, and one can argue, money

I can see why a casanova is respected among men and women viewed as slut among society. Seriously, if your a woman you can go with almost anyone aslong you're willing to do it. A men however... its not so easy.

muller39

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[QUOTE="Abbeten"] how is this at all an answer?Abbeten

What? Should we respect a slut because all she need to do is open her legs to have plenty of sex?

To be a casanova you must have confidence, charm, class, know how to talk to women, social skills, image, and one can argue, money

I can see why a casanova is respected among men and women viewed as slut among society. Seriously, if your a woman you can go with almost anyone aslong you're willing to do it. A men however... its not so easy.

Because women dont really have sex just for the sake of having sex, its more of a way to get what they want..... Generally speaking.

mahlasor

Because women dont really have sex just for the sake of having sex, its more of a way to get what they want..... Generally speaking.

mahlasor

Have sex with as many girls as possible, then when girls have like one known affair with someone they arent dating they are called a slut or a whore or worse? All of these boys and girls hive them hell for it. What happens to the boys who do this? They get cooler? Get called a "player" or something that isnt nearly as bad or is actually good in some peoples' eyes. All of these boys call the "sluts" all of these names like they are actually mad. If all girls were scared to have sex with boys in high school because of what happens to some people then the guys would have no one to have sex with and that would definitely NOT make them happy.GoogleMeBaby

Because it's harder for men to get women then it is for women to get men. Just about any woman can walk up to any guy and offer him sex and 9/10 times the answer will be yes. Now try and reverse the rolls and most girls will probably slap 9/10 guys.

[QUOTE="GoogleMeBaby"]Have sex with as many girls as possible, then when girls have like one known affair with someone they arent dating they are called a slut or a whore or worse? All of these boys and girls hive them hell for it. What happens to the boys who do this? They get cooler? Get called a "player" or something that isnt nearly as bad or is actually good in some peoples' eyes. All of these boys call the "sluts" all of these names like they are actually mad. If all girls were scared to have sex with boys in high school because of what happens to some people then the guys would have no one to have sex with and that would definitely NOT make them happy.-Renegade

Because it's harder for men to get women then it is for women to get men. Just about any woman can walk up to any guy and offer him sex and 9/10 times the answer will be yes. Now try and reverse the rolls and most girls will probably slap 9/10 guys.

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[QUOTE="GoogleMeBaby"]Have sex with as many girls as possible, then when girls have like one known affair with someone they arent dating they are called a slut or a whore or worse? All of these boys and girls hive them hell for it. What happens to the boys who do this? They get cooler? Get called a "player" or something that isnt nearly as bad or is actually good in some peoples' eyes. All of these boys call the "sluts" all of these names like they are actually mad. If all girls were scared to have sex with boys in high school because of what happens to some people then the guys would have no one to have sex with and that would definitely NOT make them happy.Abbeten

Because it's harder for men to get women then it is for women to get men. Just about any woman can walk up to any guy and offer him sex and 9/10 times the answer will be yes. Now try and reverse the rolls and most girls will probably slap 9/10 guys.

[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Because it's harder for men to get women then it is for women to get men. Just about any woman can walk up to any guy and offer him sex and 9/10 times the answer will be yes. Now try and reverse the rolls and most girls will probably slap 9/10 guys.

l4dak47

To be honest I only hear other women calling women sluts, it's a girl thing as far as I've seen, nothing to do with us guys as far as I'm aware.JohnF111

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Because women dont really have sex just for the sake of having sex, its more of a way to get what they want..... Generally speaking.

dave123321

Ok, bye bye, dont let the door slam on your fingers are your way out.:) It will probably be less awful when you are not around to just make a dumb comment. People, it is not that hard to discern why basically only women are strippers. Male strippers are a joke, just watch terminator 3. Women and men simply have different attitudes and behaviors.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]To be honest I only hear other women calling women sluts, it's a girl thing as far as I've seen, nothing to do with us guys as far as I'm aware.ramealdabest

This thread is awful. Not the topic. The topic is an old one, but it's completely true and we should keep pointing out unfair bull**** until people finally change. The responses though.....jesus christ, no wonder OT has girl problems (one of many many many many many many many many reasons). Some are honestly just plain offensive. You people remind me why I'm so cynical.

This thread is awful. Not the topic. The topic is an old one, but it's completely true and we should keep pointing out unfair bull**** until people finally change. The responses though.....jesus christ, no wonder OT has girl problems (one of many many many many many many many many reasons). Some are honestly just plain offensive. You people remind me why I'm so cynical.

HomicidalCherry

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This thread is awful. Not the topic. The topic is an old one, but it's completely true and we should keep pointing out unfair bull**** until people finally change. The responses though.....jesus christ, no wonder OT has girl problems (one of many many many many many many many many reasons). Some are honestly just plain offensive. You people remind me why I'm so cynical.

chilly-chill

Misogynistic virgins who make sh***y analogies.

Why do dumb girls still ask this question? A key that can open any lock is a MASTER KEY. A lock that gets opened by ANY key is a sh!tty lock.

Thought this was cleared ages ago

Why do dumb girls still ask this question? A key that can open any lock is a MASTER KEY. A lock that gets opened by ANY key is a sh!tty lock.

Thought this was cleared ages ago

Mozelleple112

Why do dumb girls still ask this question? A key that can open any lock is a MASTER KEY. A lock that gets opened by ANY key is a sh!tty lock.

Thought this was cleared ages ago

Mozelleple112

This thread is awful. Not the topic. The topic is an old one, but it's completely true and we should keep pointing out unfair bull**** until people finally change. The responses though.....jesus christ, no wonder OT has girl problems (one of many many many many many many many many reasons). Some are honestly just plain offensive. You people remind me why I'm so cynical.

HomicidalCherry

Men and women are different. Different expectations and norms. Deal with it.

Besides, there are plenty of things that women can do that's socially acceptable that a man can't and vice-versa. It's just how it has been since the dawn of time.

[QUOTE="HomicidalCherry"]

This thread is awful. Not the topic. The topic is an old one, but it's completely true and we should keep pointing out unfair bull**** until people finally change. The responses though.....jesus christ, no wonder OT has girl problems (one of many many many many many many many many reasons). Some are honestly just plain offensive. You people remind me why I'm so cynical.

leviathan91

Men and women are different. Different expectations and norms. Deal with it.

Besides, there are plenty of things that women can do that's socially acceptable that a man can't and vice-versa. It's just how it has been since the dawn of time.

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[QUOTE="HomicidalCherry"]

This thread is awful. Not the topic. The topic is an old one, but it's completely true and we should keep pointing out unfair bull**** until people finally change. The responses though.....jesus christ, no wonder OT has girl problems (one of many many many many many many many many reasons). Some are honestly just plain offensive. You people remind me why I'm so cynical.

Abbeten

Men and women are different. Different expectations and norms. Deal with it.

Besides, there are plenty of things that women can do that's socially acceptable that a man can't and vice-versa. It's just how it has been since the dawn of time.

If a man hits a woman, what's your first thought?

If a woman hits a man, again, what's your first thought?

There are some things a man can't do to a woman and things that he can't do that a woman can. If a draft were to come up, who gets called up to war? The men, not the women. Who pays for the check after a date? The men. Who's more likely stare down at a private area without being labeled a pervert? The woman.

As for this whole men sleeping with women and vice-versa, it's easier for a woman to get laid. If she wants to get laid, she'll go around and be flirtatious or whatever and attract some alpha male. For a man to accomplish such a feat, it takes a lot more effort and luck. Does that mean a woman who slept with several guys is a slut? No, not at all but if a woman does it every week then it's... sort of questionable.

Double standards exist just... because. There's really no explanation. That doesn't mean women are inferior to men, it's just there is a different mentality when it comes to men and women.

[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Men and women are different. Different expectations and norms. Deal with it.

Besides, there are plenty of things that women can do that's socially acceptable that a man can't and vice-versa. It's just how it has been since the dawn of time.

leviathan91

If a man hits a woman, what's your first thought?

If a woman hits a man, again, what's your first thought?

There are some things a man can't do to a woman and things that he can't do that a woman can. If a draft were to come up, who gets called up to war? The men, not the women. Who pays for the check after a date? The men. Who's more likely stare down at a private area without being labeled a pervert? The woman.

As for this whole men sleeping with women and vice-versa, it's easier for a woman to get laid. If she wants to get laid, she'll go around and be flirtatious or whatever and attract some alpha male. For a man to accomplish such a feat, it takes a lot more effort and luck. Does that mean a woman who slept with several guys is a slut? No, not at all but if a woman does it every week then it's... sort of questionable.

Double standards exist just... because. There's really no explanation. That doesn't mean women are inferior to men, it's just there is a different mentality when it comes to men and women.

That it's assault.

And a man having sex with a woman is the same concept as a woman having sex with a man. This idea that it's worse for a woman to have sex because it is 'easier' for her is bunk. Plain and simple. Trying to paint every guy as willing to stick his dick into anything that sits still long enough is stupid, just as stupid as the idea that women don't enjoy recreational sex just as much as men. 'Flirtation' is a two way street, too. It isn't so easy for a woman that she can just walk up to some dude on the street and proposition him. He's going to think she's crazy and move on. Likewise, it doesn't take inhuman charm and a chiseled Grecian statue of a body in order for a dude to find someone willing to have sex with him.

I'm aware why double standards exist. That was not the point of contention. I ask you again: do you think these double standards are justified?

Because the key that open many locks is the master key. While a lock that opens for any key is useless.MgamerBD

That it's assault. You're right

That it's assault. You're right again

But guess the f*** what? ABC news did a segment on "What Would You Do" and here's a link to when a woman is aggressive to a man. Nothing gets done because the truth about female aggression is that... it's somewhat of a joke. Also some of the women were actually cheering her on. Women are more likely to hit men but it's not a big deal. Now if a man gets aggressive with a woman then that's a different story. However, when the law is involved there isn't usually a double standard (I say this because of the current Domestic Violence laws require the police to arrest anyone who committed the crime). Ask Airshocker, he probably knows more about this than I do.

And a man having sex with a woman is the same concept as a woman having sex with a man. This idea that it's worse for a woman to have sex because it is 'easier' for her is bunk. Plain and simple. Trying to paint every guy as willing to stick his dick into anything that sits still long enough is stupid, just as stupid as the idea that women don't enjoy recreational sex just as much as men.'Flirtation' is a two way street, too. It isn't so easy for a woman that she can just walk up to some dude on the street and proposition him. He's going to think she's crazy and move on. Likewise, it doesn't take inhuman charm and a chiseled Grecian statue of a body in order for a dude to find someone willing to have sex with him.

I never said it takes a hunk to have sex with various women, I said men put a lot more effort on a woman, depending on what they want. If a woman wanted to have sex and did what you suggested, yes that'll be weird but they wouldn't do that. A woman would most likely go to a bar and wait until someone there meets her fancy. Again, men put more effort and that depends on their wants and needs. Women tend to mantain a certain standard of what kind of man they want and the same with men but again, that varies and changes depending on the circumstances.

I'm aware why double standards exist. That was not the point of contention. I ask you again: do you think these double standards are justified?

What do you mean it's justified, it's just how it's been since the dawn of time. It doesn't mean there should be laws protecting those standards, it just means that's how it's been. If there was a tall girl I liked that slept with three guys and asked me out on a date because she likes me and knew I liked her, that'll be weird. But in the end, I'd probably say yes. Was that normal, for a woman to ask out a man? No. But then again, there isn't such thing as "normal" especially since a tall woman is more likely to date a taller man.

Abbeten

Again, there are differences between men and women and there are certain expectations and norms that come with being a man or a woman.

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[QUOTE="Abbeten"] how is this at all an answer?Abbeten

What? Should we respect a slut because all she need to do is open her legs to have plenty of sex?

To be a casanova you must have confidence, charm, class, know how to talk to women, social skills, image, and one can argue, money

I can see why a casanova is respected among men and women viewed as slut among society. Seriously, if your a woman you can go with almost anyone aslong you're willing to do it. A men however... its not so easy.

Q_Q more

Dont like it, leave it

We dont need whinning babies here

Because our culture promotes an attitube which appeals to our base nature and instead of monogamy, lewdness and immorality are produced.

Because most slutty chicks seem to do it for attention because they have zero personality and life skills. Let's face it, if a guy walks up to a girl and says "**** me" he's probably going to get a slap in the face. A woman in the same scenario is probably going to end up walking funny the next day.

Again, there are differences between men and women and there are certain expectations and norms that come with being a man or a woman. leviathan91

As for the ease with which people can have sex, let me grant your assumption. Let's say I agree that women can have sex more easily than men can. Would this make it worse for a woman to have sex than for a man? Why? Does this same rule apply to different members of the same sex? If it's really easy for a charming guy who works out a bunch to have sex, and really hard for an obese dude with little to no social graces, should we look down on the charming guy for having more sex than the other guy? Why? Why would these rules not apply for things outside of sex?

[QUOTE="leviathan91"] Again, there are differences between men and women and there are certain expectations and norms that come with being a man or a woman. Abbeten

As for the ease with which people can have sex, let me grant your assumption. Let's say I agree that women can have sex more easily than men can. Would this make it worse for a woman to have sex than for a man? Why? Does this same rule apply to different members of the same sex? If it's really easy for a charming guy who works out a bunch to have sex, and really hard for an obese dude with little to no social graces, should we look down on the charming guy for having more sex than the other guy? Why? Why would these rules not apply for things outside of sex?

If a man did it with everything that moved, from a fugly teacher to some mentally retarded chick, I'd consider him a manwhore simply because he has no standard or integrity. If it makes you feel any better, no, I don't think it's right to label a woman a "slut" for having sex but that usually depends on the type of woman we're dealing with. Not all men and women are the same. All have different stories, we all have different expectations and standards of what we want, and we all have mistakes. Again, that depends on the person regardless of gender.

As for the ease of having sex, it was to answer the TC's topic. Men put more effort in achieving what they want where as women don't but, again, that's not always the case. Sometimes women work their asses off (no that's now what I mean, really) to make a guy like her. I know, because I've seen it firsthand. As for that charming guy, most men would certainly envy him where as some don't. Again, that depends.

because biologically it makes sense

[QUOTE="HomicidalCherry"]

This thread is awful. Not the topic. The topic is an old one, but it's completely true and we should keep pointing out unfair bull**** until people finally change. The responses though.....jesus christ, no wonder OT has girl problems (one of many many many many many many many many reasons). Some are honestly just plain offensive. You people remind me why I'm so cynical.

leviathan91

Men and women are different. Different expectations and norms. Deal with it.

Besides, there are plenty of things that women can do that's socially acceptable that a man can't and vice-versa. It's just how it has been since the dawn of time.

That's just a terrible argument. Sexism exists and always has, therefore it's alright? Give me a break. Sexism isn't inevitable. Sexism doesn't have to exist. The fact that it exists means we should point it out and not be ok with it when we see it, not throw up our hands and say oh well, that's life. It's ridiculous that we as a society high five guys for sleeping around and berate women for doing the same damn thing and it's even more ridiculous that so many people are trying to justify it.

I blame Lil Wayne. Problem solved.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="mahlasor"]

Because women dont really have sex just for the sake of having sex, its more of a way to get what they want..... Generally speaking.

mahlasor

Ok, bye bye, dont let the door slam on your fingers are your way out.:) It will probably be less awful when you are not around to just make a dumb comment. People, it is not that hard to discern why basically only women are strippers. Male strippers are a joke, just watch terminator 3. Women and men simply have different attitudes and behaviors.

Oh sweet, a scholarly source in Terminator 3.

Becuase its some bs trophey for guys, i guess as it can be harder to have sex for guys, when basically alot of girls can do it with a large number of guys

[QUOTE="leviathan91"] Again, there are differences between men and women and there are certain expectations and norms that come with being a man or a woman. Abbeten

As for the ease with which people can have sex, let me grant your assumption. Let's say I agree that women can have sex more easily than men can. Would this make it worse for a woman to have sex than for a man? Why? Does this same rule apply to different members of the same sex? If it's really easy for a charming guy who works out a bunch to have sex, and really hard for an obese dude with little to no social graces, should we look down on the charming guy for having more sex than the other guy? Why? Why would these rules not apply for things outside of sex?

Your last couple questions are actually really interesting. I don't have an answer to them, but they are thought-provoking nontheless.

Why is it when a straight guy refuses to have sex with a girl, his sexuality is questioned, but when a girl refuses sex with a guy, it's normal?

That's just a terrible argument. Sexism exists and always has, therefore it's alright? Give me a break. Sexism isn't inevitable. Sexism doesn't have to exist. The fact that it exists means we should point it out and not be ok with it when we see it, not throw up our hands and say oh well, that's life. It's ridiculous that we as a society high five guys for sleeping around and berate women for doing the same damn thing and it's even more ridiculous that so many people are trying to justify it.

HomicidalCherry

That's just a terrible argument aswell.

Your opinion =/= everyone else's opinion.