Why does racism exist?

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

Forming groups and excluding on the outside IS human nature, it's etched into our psyche. Some people have managed to suppress or eliminate this nature, (ie NOT being racist).

Kritical_Strike

I'm not saying it's an excuse, it's an explanation. Try paying attention next time.

We live in a modern society and we are expected to regularly suppress perfectly natural urges. For example, I say a hawt chick today, and quite frankly I really wanted to "slam" her. But did I? Of course not, because our modern society has "women's rights" and laws against having sex in the middle of a classroom (I think).

There are laws against that:shock: *hides in basement*

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] Oh no, someone just said your category based solely on skin color doesn't exist. I feel so bad for you. All of your ancestors have been verbally raped and you have been disgraced. Death to wemhim! :roll:pseudodog07

Assuming you are black, what you should be worried about is how rappers denegrate and verbally rape your race. And how you are much more likely to be shot by another black, then have problems like that with any whites. Or does black on black crime not bother you or it's just something else blacks blame whites for?

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] Oh no, someone just said your category based solely on skin color doesn't exist. I feel so bad for you. All of your ancestors have been verbally raped and you have been disgraced. Death to wemhim! :roll:pseudodog07

Assuming you are black, what you should be worried about is how rappers denegrate and verbally rape your race. And how you are much more likely to be shot by another black, then have problems like that with any whites. Or does black on black crime not bother you or it's just something else blacks blame whites for?

[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] Oh no, someone just said your category based solely on skin color doesn't exist. I feel so bad for you. All of your ancestors have been verbally raped and you have been disgraced. Death to wemhim! :roll:wemhim

Assuming you are black, what you should be worried about is how rappers denegrate and verbally rape your race. And how you are much more likely to be shot by another black, then have problems like that with any whites. Or does black on black crime not bother you or it's just something else blacks blame whites for?

But those individuals are black. :P

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

Forming groups and excluding on the outside IS human nature, it's etched into our psyche. Some people have managed to suppress or eliminate this nature, (ie NOT being racist).

Kritical_Strike

I'm not saying it's an excuse, it's an explanation. Try paying attention next time.

We live in a modern society and we are expected to regularly suppress perfectly natural urges. For example, I say a hawt chick today, and quite frankly I really wanted to "slam" her. But did I? Of course not, because our modern society has "women's rights" and laws against having sex in the middle of a classroom (I think).

[QUOTE="wemhim"]You know black people don't kill people or write music you don't like, indiduals do...John Wayne Gacy murdered people, OH NOES TEH BISEXUALS ARE MURDERERS(He was Bi, not gay contrary to popular belief)!
pseudodog07

Blacks are like 10% of the people in the US, but commit 55& of rapes and murders. Then, the hip hop industry plays up this as being cool and hip. That's reason enough for me to want to stear clear of them.

[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]You know black people don't kill people or write music you don't like, indiduals do...John Wayne Gacy murdered people, OH NOES TEH BISEXUALS ARE MURDERERS(He was Bi, not gay contrary to popular belief)!
wemhim

Blacks are like 10% of the people in the US, but commit 55& of rapes and murders. Then, the hip hop industry plays up this as being cool and hip. That's reason enough for me to want to stear clear of them.

Yeah and many Africans still walk around naked with spears. What's your point?

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

Forming groups and excluding on the outside IS human nature, it's etched into our psyche. Some people have managed to suppress or eliminate this nature, (ie NOT being racist).

DeeJayInphinity

I'm not saying it's an excuse, it's an explanation. Try paying attention next time.

We live in a modern society and we are expected to regularly suppress perfectly natural urges. For example, I say a hawt chick today, and quite frankly I really wanted to "slam" her. But did I? Of course not, because our modern society has "women's rights" and laws against having sex in the middle of a classroom (I think).

It is a good excuse in a way. It is the reason I don't really hate racists, just pity them and hope they will become informed on the group they are needlessly hating.

Aren't humans a species?crazychris

Answer to the original question raised by Film-Guy: We're all a little different biologically, skull build, bone size, genes. Some use this as a reason to dislike. It's sad, but it's a fact of life. :?

[QUOTE="crazychris"]arent humans a speciesFrattracide

/thread

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]You know black people don't kill people or write music you don't like, indiduals do...John Wayne Gacy murdered people, OH NOES TEH BISEXUALS ARE MURDERERS(He was Bi, not gay contrary to popular belief)!
pseudodog07

Blacks are like 10% of the people in the US, but commit 55& of rapes and murders. Then, the hip hop industry plays up this as being cool and hip. That's reason enough for me to want to stear clear of them.

Yeah and many Africans still walk around naked with spears. What's your point?

[QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]You know black people don't kill people or write music you don't like, indiduals do...John Wayne Gacy murdered people, OH NOES TEH BISEXUALS ARE MURDERERS(He was Bi, not gay contrary to popular belief)!
wemhim

Blacks are like 10% of the people in the US, but commit 55& of rapes and murders. Then, the hip hop industry plays up this as being cool and hip. That's reason enough for me to want to stear clear of them.

Yeah and many Africans still walk around naked with spears. What's your point?

But blacks more than others.

I'm not racist, but I hate black culture.GodLovesDead

Can you please explain? Do you hate black culture cause its Black and you feel like you should hate it? Or you just hate it cause everything about it just doesnt fit your preferences?

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]You know black people don't kill people or write music you don't like, indiduals do...John Wayne Gacy murdered people, OH NOES TEH BISEXUALS ARE MURDERERS(He was Bi, not gay contrary to popular belief)!
GodLovesDead

Blacks are like 10% of the people in the US, but commit 55& of rapes and murders. Then, the hip hop industry plays up this as being cool and hip. That's reason enough for me to want to stear clear of them.

Yeah and many Africans still walk around naked with spears. What's your point?

But blacks more than others.

Cause lack of education. If you think blacks are born violent then your wrong.

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]You know black people don't kill people or write music you don't like, indiduals do...John Wayne Gacy murdered people, OH NOES TEH BISEXUALS ARE MURDERERS(He was Bi, not gay contrary to popular belief)!
GodLovesDead

Blacks are like 10% of the people in the US, but commit 55& of rapes and murders. Then, the hip hop industry plays up this as being cool and hip. That's reason enough for me to want to stear clear of them.

Yeah and many Africans still walk around naked with spears. What's your point?

But blacks more than others.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]You know black people don't kill people or write music you don't like, indiduals do...John Wayne Gacy murdered people, OH NOES TEH BISEXUALS ARE MURDERERS(He was Bi, not gay contrary to popular belief)!
wemhim

Blacks are like 10% of the people in the US, but commit 55& of rapes and murders. Then, the hip hop industry plays up this as being cool and hip. That's reason enough for me to want to stear clear of them.

Yeah and many Africans still walk around naked with spears. What's your point?

But blacks more than others.

Alright. That's cool. And blacks are the most self-destructive race. I'm glad we agree.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]You know black people don't kill people or write music you don't like, indiduals do...John Wayne Gacy murdered people, OH NOES TEH BISEXUALS ARE MURDERERS(He was Bi, not gay contrary to popular belief)!
wemhim

Blacks are like 10% of the people in the US, but commit 55& of rapes and murders. Then, the hip hop industry plays up this as being cool and hip. That's reason enough for me to want to stear clear of them.

Yeah and many Africans still walk around naked with spears. What's your point?

But blacks more than others.

You can't just write off information like that. Sometimes it really reflects a racial problem. Blacks are more violent and do worse in school than white and asian students in the US. That is a statistic, and the differences aren't intangable, they are blatant, really reflecting a problem.

It's not an inherent problem though, it's just the circumstances of the black race nowadays.

Alright. That's cool. And blacks are the most self-destructive race. I'm glad we agree.

GodLovesDead

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]I'm not racist, but I hate black culture.kurama2002

Can you please explain? Do you hate black culture cause its Black and you feel like you should hate it? Or you just hate it cause everything about it just doesnt fit your preferences?

I dislike black culture for many reasons. Their insane form of materialism, treatment of women, drugs, self-destructive behaviour, etc. I don't care what color your skin is. If you support that that type of culture, I don't respect you. I refer to it as "black culture" simply because it's led by african americans. I have nothing against black people themselves. I have a lot of great black friends.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

Alright. That's cool. And blacks are the most self-destructive race. I'm glad we agree.

wemhim

It actually isn't anything like that. I really need to read into debating so I can just write off what illogical reasoning your using, but you're just flat-out dodging the point.

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

Alright. That's cool. And blacks are the most self-destructive race. I'm glad we agree.

GodLovesDead

It actually isn't anything like that. I really need to read into debating so I can just write off what illogical reasoning your using, but you're just flat-out dodging the point.

[QUOTE="kurama2002"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]I'm not racist, but I hate black culture.GodLovesDead

Can you please explain? Do you hate black culture cause its Black and you feel like you should hate it? Or you just hate it cause everything about it just doesnt fit your preferences?

I dislike black culture for many reasons. Their insane form of materialism, treatment of women, drugs, self-destructive behaviour, etc. I don't care what color your skin is. If you support that that type of culture, I don't respect you. I refer to it as "black culture" simply because it's led by african americans. I have nothing against black people themselves. I have a lot of great black friends.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

Alright. That's cool. And blacks are the most self-destructive race. I'm glad we agree.

wemhim

It actually isn't anything like that. I really need to read into debating so I can just write off what illogical reasoning your using, but you're just flat-out dodging the point.

African Americans don't do as well in school and commit an unreasonably large amount of crime. You either agree with it - or disagree with the statistics. Don't say it doesn't mean anything. Nobody here is being absolute. I'm not saying that if you're black, you're a bad person. I'm not saying anything like that. But the cold-hard facts point out that their race's culture and morals are corrupt. And it's glorified in today's media.

Wemhim I'd just quit arguing with that guy. Most of his posts here are racist. Let it go.jackvegas21

I only seem racist because of the politically correct world we live in today. And, all I did was mention the facts of the world I live in here. A world where black violence is much higher than whites but rarely reported in the media. Popular rap and hip hop is stating that violence is fun. And where many people, whites included, are being brainwashed to think "gangsta" means cool.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="kurama2002"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]I'm not racist, but I hate black culture.DeeJayInphinity

Can you please explain? Do you hate black culture cause its Black and you feel like you should hate it? Or you just hate it cause everything about it just doesnt fit your preferences?

I dislike black culture for many reasons. Their insane form of materialism, treatment of women, drugs, self-destructive behaviour, etc. I don't care what color your skin is. If you support that that type of culture, I don't respect you. I refer to it as "black culture" simply because it's led by african americans. I have nothing against black people themselves. I have a lot of great black friends.

That's great, and I dislike materialism in white culture also. The african people who have overcome these issues know who they are and I know who they are too. They have nothing to prove. I'm "just saying" that racism isn't some insane phenomenon. It has base and if people don't want to respect certain cultures or people belonging to a culture, they don't have to.

[QUOTE="jackvegas21"]Wemhim I'd just quit arguing with that guy. Most of his posts here are racist. Let it go.pseudodog07

I only seem racist because of the politically correct world we live in today. And, all I did was mention the facts of the world I live in here. A world where black violence is much higher than whites but rarely reported in the media, rap and hip hop stating that violence is fun and cool. And where many people, whites included, are being forced to think "gangsta" means cool.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="kurama2002"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]I'm not racist, but I hate black culture.GodLovesDead

Can you please explain? Do you hate black culture cause its Black and you feel like you should hate it? Or you just hate it cause everything about it just doesnt fit your preferences?

I dislike black culture for many reasons. Their insane form of materialism, treatment of women, drugs, self-destructive behaviour, etc. I don't care what color your skin is. If you support that that type of culture, I don't respect you. I refer to it as "black culture" simply because it's led by african americans. I have nothing against black people themselves. I have a lot of great black friends.

That's great, and I dislike materialism in white culture also. The african people who have overcome these issues know who they are and I know who they are too. They have nothing to prove. I'm "just saying" that racism isn't some insane phenomenon. It has base and if people don't want to respect certain cultures or people belonging to a culture, they don't have to.

That's great, and I dislike materialism in white culture also. The african people who have overcome these issues know who they are and I know who they are too. They have nothing to prove. I'm "just saying" that racism isn't some insane phenomenon. It has base and if people don't want to respect certain cultures or people belonging to a culture, they don't have to.

GodLovesDead

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="kurama2002"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]I'm not racist, but I hate black culture.wemhim

Can you please explain? Do you hate black culture cause its Black and you feel like you should hate it? Or you just hate it cause everything about it just doesnt fit your preferences?

I dislike black culture for many reasons. Their insane form of materialism, treatment of women, drugs, self-destructive behaviour, etc. I don't care what color your skin is. If you support that that type of culture, I don't respect you. I refer to it as "black culture" simply because it's led by african americans. I have nothing against black people themselves. I have a lot of great black friends.

That's great, and I dislike materialism in white culture also. The african people who have overcome these issues know who they are and I know who they are too. They have nothing to prove. I'm "just saying" that racism isn't some insane phenomenon. It has base and if people don't want to respect certain cultures or people belonging to a culture, they don't have to.

I'm not saying you do belong to that culture. I already said that I have a bunch of black friends. Hell, 1/4th of my friends are black. If your'e white and belong to that culture, I dislike you equally as all of the others.

[QUOTE="jackvegas21"]Wemhim I'd just quit arguing with that guy. Most of his posts here are racist. Let it go.pseudodog07

I only seem racist because of the politically correct world we live in today. And, all I did was mention the facts of the world I live in here. A world where black violence is much higher than whites but rarely reported in the media, rap and hip hop stating that violence is fun and cool. And where many people, whites included, are being forced to think "gangsta" means cool.

But its just ignorance. Teens dont think that violence is fun and cool. Where im at everyone always trys to avoid violence. There is no rap song that says kids should do violence because it is fun and cool. Many whites arent being forced to like anything, you arent being forced and your white right? Eminem did rap music and tons of white people bought his album. Through his whole album he clearly states on his song he is not a role model and that what ever he says in the songs and his image is not what he does in real life. Yet white kids want to be like him. They got into rap mostly because of him. All though i somewhat agree with you on the media thing.

[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="jackvegas21"]Wemhim I'd just quit arguing with that guy. Most of his posts here are racist. Let it go.DeeJayInphinity

I only seem racist because of the politically correct world we live in today. And, all I did was mention the facts of the world I live in here. A world where black violence is much higher than whites but rarely reported in the media, rap and hip hop stating that violence is fun and cool. And where many people, whites included, are being forced to think "gangsta" means cool.

What? He's only pointing out a problem with the black race in the US. They do worse in school, they are more violent and far more self destructive, not to mention how they occupy about half of the prison population yet they only compromise about 13% of the entire US population. Are you seriously saying that's not a problem?

White's may be just as able to join gangs as blacks, but it's a fact that blacks are more likely to kill and get incarcerated.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

That's great, and I dislike materialism in white culture also. The african people who have overcome these issues know who they are and I know who they are too. They have nothing to prove. I'm "just saying" that racism isn't some insane phenomenon. It has base and if people don't want to respect certain cultures or people belonging to a culture, they don't have to.

DeeJayInphinity

Those statistics are a base. I never said it's a good or logical base. I don't even agree with racists. I guess I'm just trying to point out that a majority of black people *(IN AMERICAN)* belong to a culture that is easy to hate or dislike.

I'm not racist, but I hate black people.GodLovesDead

:|

What? He's only pointing out a problem with the black race in the US. They do worse in school, they are more violent and far more self destructive, not to mention how they occupy about half of the prison population yet they only compromise about 13% of the entire US population. Are you seriously saying that's not a problem?

White's may be just as able to join gangs as blacks, but it's a fact that blacks are more likely to kill and get incarcerated.

Kritical_Strike

Alright. That's cool. And blacks are the most self-destructive race. I'm glad we agree.

GodLovesDead

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

What? He's only pointing out a problem with the black race in the US. They do worse in school, they are more violent and far more self destructive, not to mention how they occupy about half of the prison population yet they only compromise about 13% of the entire US population. Are you seriously saying that's not a problem?

White's may be just as able to join gangs as blacks, but it's a fact that blacks are more likely to kill and get incarcerated.

DeeJayInphinity

So you're denying there is a problem of this nature in the black race?

So you're denying there is a problem of this nature in the black race?

Kritical_Strike

African Americans don't do as well in school and commit an unreasonably large amount of crime. You either agree with it - or disagree with the statistics. Don't say it doesn't mean anything. Nobody here is being absolute. I'm not saying that if you're black, you're a bad person. I'm not saying anything like that. But the cold-hard facts point out that their race's culture and morals are corrupt. And it's glorified in today's media.

GodLovesDead

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

African Americans don't do as well in school and commit an unreasonably large amount of crime. You either agree with it - or disagree with the statistics. Don't say it doesn't mean anything. Nobody here is being absolute. I'm not saying that if you're black, you're a bad person. I'm not saying anything like that. But the cold-hard facts point out that their race's culture and morals are corrupt. And it's glorified in today's media.

Orlando_Magic

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

So you're denying there is a problem of this nature in the black race?

DeeJayInphinity

I've already covered that. I said that it isn't inherently a black problem. More black people are uneducated and violent because of their circumstances. The cause of this can be traced back to colonising African and then slave-trading blacks around the US (as Orlando_Magic pointed out). The Black race has a bit of a problem, but it's not a genetic problem or anything like that, it COULD be a cultural problem, mainly because black culture comes from all the mistreatment and slavery, poverty etc.

BEcaue ignorant people think people are different cause of skin color. White people arent superior than anyone else.kurama2002

No crap, neither are blacks or hispanics. Generalizing whites to be the only people - yeah the people that abolished slavery - who think they are superior is complete crap. Only morons are racist, sure some statistics point towards a certain race for certain issues, however, that is only a group of people. One of my closest friends is black and no he has never been imprisioned. You can't hate on people just because of their colour, because that is rediculous EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE - short, tall, black, white, purple, blue - is different.

it COULD be a cultural problem, mainly because black culture comes from all the mistreatment and slavery, poverty etc.

Kritical_Strike

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

African Americans don't do as well in school and commit an unreasonably large amount of crime. You either agree with it - or disagree with the statistics. Don't say it doesn't mean anything. Nobody here is being absolute. I'm not saying that if you're black, you're a bad person. I'm not saying anything like that. But the cold-hard facts point out that their race's culture and morals are corrupt. And it's glorified in today's media.

wemhim

Em, there isn't an island full of blue red haired people, anyways I see what you're getting at but there are still racial stigmatism even between Asians and Whites. As far as I know there wasn't many disputes between us either, I dunno why it exists either, and if we did know I think it would be corrected.

[QUOTE="kurama2002"]BEcaue ignorant people think people are different cause of skin color. White people arent superior than anyone else.-R3Vo

No crap, neither are blacks or hispanics. Generalizing whites to be the only people - yeah the people that abolished slavery - who think they are superior is complete crap. Only morons are racist, sure some statistics point towards a certain race for certain issues, however, that is only a group of people. One of my closest friends is black and no he has never been imprisioned. You can't hate on people just because of their colour, because that is rediculous EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE - short, tall, black, white, purple, blue - is different.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

African Americans don't do as well in school and commit an unreasonably large amount of crime. You either agree with it - or disagree with the statistics. Don't say it doesn't mean anything. Nobody here is being absolute. I'm not saying that if you're black, you're a bad person. I'm not saying anything like that. But the cold-hard facts point out that their race's culture and morals are corrupt. And it's glorified in today's media.

Orlando_Magic

Blame the schools, blame the whites, blame the rich folks, whatever. Bottom line, don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. And, while they are at blaming people, they might want to consider blaming the corrupting rap industry and culture. Where are your "good" black role models? Those who don't talk slang and shoot eachother on TV. Are these gangsta thugs who y'all look up to?

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

African Americans don't do as well in school and commit an unreasonably large amount of crime. You either agree with it - or disagree with the statistics. Don't say it doesn't mean anything. Nobody here is being absolute. I'm not saying that if you're black, you're a bad person. I'm not saying anything like that. But the cold-hard facts point out that their race's culture and morals are corrupt. And it's glorified in today's media.

-R3Vo

Em, there isn't an island full of blue red haired people, anyways I see what you're getting at but there are still racial stigmatism even between Asians and Whites. As far as I know there wasn't many disputes between us either, I dunno why it exists either, and if we did know I think it would be corrected.

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

African Americans don't do as well in school and commit an unreasonably large amount of crime. You either agree with it - or disagree with the statistics. Don't say it doesn't mean anything. Nobody here is being absolute. I'm not saying that if you're black, you're a bad person. I'm not saying anything like that. But the cold-hard facts point out that their race's culture and morals are corrupt. And it's glorified in today's media.

pseudodog07

Blame the schools, blame the whites, blame the rich folks, whatever. Bottom line, don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. And, while they are at blaming people, they might want to consider blaming the corrupting rap industry and culture. Where are your "good" black role models? Those who don't talk slang and shoot eachother on TV. Are these gangsta thugs who y'all look up to?