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What the hell is collater damage? Do you mean "collateral damage"?
Because that movie kind of sucked.
Yes it cut me off, I am not talk about movie.What the hell is collater damage? Do you mean "collateral damage"?
Because that movie kind of sucked.
SPYDER0416
Because others go to jail for it.What's the big deal about murder? It's only hastening the inevitable. Why should people get all bent out of shape over something that's going to happen anyway? Meh.
King-Kai
[QUOTE="King-Kai"]Because others go to jail for it.you see amercian soldiers pissing on corpses and just recently killed nine innocent kids.....yea people around the globe and U.S soil arnt pleased one bitWhat's the big deal about murder? It's only hastening the inevitable. Why should people get all bent out of shape over something that's going to happen anyway? Meh.
BangYongGuk
Because others go to jail for it.you see amercian soldiers pissing on corpses and just recently killed nine innocent kids.....yea people around the globe and U.S soil arnt pleased one bit True, I think the American people are waking up though. I like the think most people know the truth.[QUOTE="BangYongGuk"][QUOTE="King-Kai"]
What's the big deal about murder? It's only hastening the inevitable. Why should people get all bent out of shape over something that's going to happen anyway? Meh.
almasdeathchild
[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]you see amercian soldiers pissing on corpses and just recently killed nine innocent kids.....yea people around the globe and U.S soil arnt pleased one bit True, I think the American people are waking up though. I like the think most people know the truth.what makes it more annoying is that alot of people try and find scape goats to justify their actions.[QUOTE="BangYongGuk"] Because others go to jail for it.BangYongGuk
True, I think the American people are waking up though. I like the think most people know the truth.what makes it more annoying is that alot of people try and find scape goats to justify their actions. Agreed, Ted Bundy blamed his killings on porn yet he was not spared the death penalty... I think there is a massive double standard... If we let people rape women, murder children and ravage a country with war crimes than why are there criminals?[QUOTE="BangYongGuk"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]you see amercian soldiers pissing on corpses and just recently killed nine innocent kids.....yea people around the globe and U.S soil arnt pleased one bit
almasdeathchild
[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]what makes it more annoying is that alot of people try and find scape goats to justify their actions. Agreed, Ted Bundy blamed his killings on porn yet he was not spared the death penalty... I think there is a massive double standard... If we let people rape women, murder children and ravage a country with war crimes than why are there criminals?atleast someone gets what im talking about[QUOTE="BangYongGuk"] True, I think the American people are waking up though. I like the think most people know the truth.BangYongGuk
What you didnt know about the war:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsrMzfhdmkU
best 10 mins of your life to watch, 24/7 of hell for the people you see.
Collateral damage in war is not considered murder. Since murder is a legal concept your logic is wrong.LJS9502_basicthe word murder is not a term that is exclusive to legal concepts. the word murder can be used to describe the actions of killing that someone thinks are unjustified. People use the word this way all the time. It's not a matter of logic. Collateral damage, is an euphemism, to cover up the atrocities of war, by making it sound morally justified by avoiding negative terminology like murder, they move the description of events to a more neutral point of view. Collateral damage implies destruction that was not intended, so it's more acceptable in the eyes of the public. It really doesn't matter what anybody calls it, taking the lives of innocent people in military action should never be acceptable. I'm perfectly fine with somebody calling it murder. It's unjustified killing. People are losing their lives for no good reason. To many people that is murder. Regardless of what you or anybody wants to call it to lighten the impact of these causalities.
LOL, you still haven't failed me. :)What's the big deal about murder? It's only hastening the inevitable. Why should people get all bent out of shape over something that's going to happen anyway? Meh.
King-Kai
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Collateral damage in war is not considered murder. Since murder is a legal concept your logic is wrong.StRaItJaCkEt36the word murder is not a term that is exclusive to legal concepts. the word murder can be used to describe the actions of killing that someone thinks are unjustified. People use the word this way all the time. It's not a matter of logic. Collateral damage, is an euphemism, to cover up the atrocities of war, by making it sound morally justified by avoiding negative terminology like murder, they move the description of events to a more neutral point of view. Collateral damage implies destruction that was not intended, so it's more acceptable in the eyes of the public. It really doesn't matter what anybody calls it, taking the lives of innocent people in military action should never be acceptable. I'm perfectly fine with somebody calling it murder. It's unjustified killing. People are losing their lives for no good reason. To many people that is murder. Regardless of what you or anybody wants to call it to lighten the impact of these causalities. Actually we use different words for different types of killing....
[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]you see amercian soldiers pissing on corpses and just recently killed nine innocent kids.....yea people around the globe and U.S soil arnt pleased one bit True, I think the American people are waking up though. I like the think most people know the truth.[QUOTE="BangYongGuk"] Because others go to jail for it.BangYongGuk
True, I think the American people are waking up though. I like the think most people know the truth.[QUOTE="BangYongGuk"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]you see amercian soldiers pissing on corpses and just recently killed nine innocent kids.....yea people around the globe and U.S soil arnt pleased one bit
Matthew-first
[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]
[QUOTE="BangYongGuk"] True, I think the American people are waking up though. I like the think most people know the truth.LJS9502_basic
Most people do, in fact, know bad things happen. That means in all countries. If you think other countries are warm and loving to the "enemy" you are naive.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]
[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]
The whole nation of United States need to wake up...Matthew-first
I know you didn't. I was correcting you....;)[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Most people do, in fact, know bad things happen. That means in all countries. If you think other countries are warm and loving to the "enemy" you are naive.
LJS9502_basic
I know you didn't. I was correcting you....;)[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]
[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]
Matthew-first
[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I know you didn't. I was correcting you....;)
LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"] Of course,but I'm sure some of them still get covered for their crimes.gubrushadowI doubt that. I just don't see it happening. Too hard to cover up and why would someone want to do that? Well my media is the inverse of your media,I dunno who is lying but I'm pretty sure our media wiped the floor with your soldiers by describing them as the "real" terrorists.
That's pretty funny, given the current state of affairs in the country next door ;).
[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I doubt that. I just don't see it happening. Too hard to cover up and why would someone want to do that?LJS9502_basicWell my media is the inverse of your media,I dunno who is lying but I'm pretty sure our media wiped the floor with your soldiers by describing them as the "real" terrorists. Your country is?
Your article is such trash it is pathetic. Not one fact is mentioned in it, just tossing out statistics at will. America does not target woman and children, you have NO CLUE how much we go through in the Air Force to NOT target women and children. You will NEVER know because we would never let people like you know. You are the type who would run and tell our enemies so they could use it against us even more than they do now. I can tell you for a fact we go far out of our way to avoid killing innocents, I am involved in the process.
This is your type in a nutshell.......
A high value member of the Taliban uses women and children as human shields against Americans, you are cool with that. Americans bomb the target not knowing there are human shields in the building, you blame us. It is pretty pathetic actually.
I often think about it too. Maybe if such collateral damage took place in the homeland, will then the realisation come in.dramaybazROFL, seriously? The people we fight don't believe in collateral damage because anyone is fair game. Do you really think they were worried about collateral damage on 9/11?? Only one target was even a military one. You people crack me up.
Hmmm, let me look this up with google....
Murder: The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
Collateral damage:Used euphemistically to refer to inadvertent casualties and destruction in civilian areas in the course of military operations.
Nope, not the same.
Who would have thought:roll:
The Waco incident.That sure pissed a lot of people off and it happened in the United States. American men,women and children suffer because of government arrogance and carelessness too, sometimes.
That being said, I cant really blame the servicemen. When it would seemthere is no clear cut between friend or foe, and the government that sent them there doesn't seem serious about winning.
I agree with this 100% If these so-called warriors were not hiding behind the skirts of their women, we wouldn't wind up killing their women trying to get their cowardly asses. The soldier that just murdered a bunch of innocents will never be a free man again. In fact, under US military law, he will probably get the death penalty. The marines that pissed on the dead taliban were punished.Your article is such trash it is pathetic. Not one fact is mentioned in it, just tossing out statistics at will. America does not target woman and children, you have NO CLUE how much we go through in the Air Force to NOT target women and children. You will NEVER know because we would never let people like you know. You are the type who would run and tell our enemies so they could use it against us even more than they do now. I can tell you for a fact we go far out of our way to avoid killing innocents, I am involved in the process.
This is your type in a nutshell.......
A high value member of the Taliban uses women and children as human shields against Americans, you are cool with that. Americans bomb the target not knowing there are human shields in the building, you blame us. It is pretty pathetic actually.
vfibsux
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