Why don't christians call their god by his name?

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#1 import_fighter1
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I bet most Christians don't even know what their God's name is. I'm just really curious why this is. I hear from christians calling all other gods names like lucifer, etc. but never mention or even know their own god's name and just use the term god.

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#2 Pirate700
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Bob isn't a name?

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God's proper name is often given as Yahweh, or Jehovah. But many Christians believe that god's name is Jesus.

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#4 redwolf22
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Because it gives the impression that it is "The God" not "a God"
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But many Christians believe that god's name is Jesus.

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I thought they were separate entities?
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Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.
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#7 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="dog64"]

But many Christians believe that god's name is Jesus.

samuraiguns

I thought they were separate entities?

They are. Jesus is supposed to be God's son. Not god.

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I heard that god likes to be called Harold. "Harold be thy name" :P

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God's proper name is often given as Yahweh, or Jehovah. But many Christians believe that god's name is Jesus.

dog64
But the christians gods name isn't jesus, jesus is their gods son.
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I bet most Christians don't even know what their God's name is. I'm just really curious why this is. I hear from christians calling all other gods names like lucifer, etc. but never mention or even know their own god's name and just use the term god.

import_fighter1

So what?

Is that a criterion out of which you conclude something?

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Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.zeppelin_64
Jesus is God's son not God himself.

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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="dog64"]

But many Christians believe that god's name is Jesus.

Pirate700

I thought they were separate entities?

They are. Jesus is supposed to be God's son. Not god.

This is correct, according to my Christian teachings anyway. However many Christians believe in the Trinity, which teaches that Jesus was god in the flesh. Makes it confusing on how Jesus prayed to himself on several occasions.

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Because "Freddamnit!" just isn't a very powerful exclamation.

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#14 Stinger78
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What specific word or name are you wanting to hear spoken other than God?

Do you want YHWH (pronounced Yahweh), Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, Almighty, Lord, Father, Jehovah, or something else?

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[QUOTE="dog64"]

God's proper name is often given as Yahweh, or Jehovah. But many Christians believe that god's name is Jesus.

import_fighter1

But the christians gods name isn't jesus, jesus is their gods son.

Yes, I know. But many Christians believe that god is a part of the Trinity, and so is Jesus. There are also scriptures in the Bible that say that god and Jesus are one, and they take this literally.

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I don't think (within the context of the religion) anyone has the ability to "know" God's name.

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[QUOTE="zeppelin_64"]Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.Pirate700

Jesus is God's son not God himself.

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="zeppelin_64"]Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.Theokhoth

Jesus is God's son not God himself.

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

but then that means jesus was praying to himself?
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.zeppelin_64
Jesus is God's son not God himself.

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

Well you would think that this god would be popular enough that people would get his name straight like all the other gods.
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Is there a problem ??? I mean I'm not a christian anymore is it important ?

But well anyway ... Christian god name is God because it is the God ... it is the one and the only one. Lucifer isn't a god, he is an Angel created by God and he defy God with Adam and Eve ... so after Lucifer prove that the creation of God isn't perfect, God banish Lucifer and became the incarnation of all bad thing humans can do by Christian standart.

You know that God,Jehova and Alah are the same ... the story in their Holy book is the same ? But they dont recognize the same prophets.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Jesus is God's son not God himself.

import_fighter1

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

Well you would think that this god would be popular enough that people would get his name straight like all the other gods.

It's all the same name. :| If I called Jesus "Yeshua" then it would be the exact same thing.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="zeppelin_64"]Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.Theokhoth

Jesus is God's son not God himself.

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

Some call him allah, some call him Vishnu, and some even call him a lie

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Jesus is God's son not God himself.

samuraiguns

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

but then that means jesus was praying to himself?

God the Son praying to God the Father for God the Holy Spirit's blessing.

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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Jesus is God's son not God himself.

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

but then that means jesus was praying to himself?

3 Different people, same person. I guess you non-Christian variety can call him Dissociative.
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

supa_badman

but then that means jesus was praying to himself?

3 Different people, same person. I guess you non-Christian variety can call him Dissociative.

Funny, I just so happen to be watching Fight Club this very moment.

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'Cause in one of the stories in the Old Testament, God says that his people should not call him by his real name.

Can't remember what specific chapter, but it's in their somewhere.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

Well you would think that this god would be popular enough that people would get his name straight like all the other gods.

It's all the same name. :| If I called Jesus "Yeshua" then it would be the exact same thing.

No it's not the same thing.. according to you your god's name has only been jesus for 2000 years but before jesus even existed his name has been "Yeshua". So for like all of infinity his name is yeshua and nobody hardly ever speaks of this and most christians have no idea that's his name.
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3 Different people, same person.supa_badman

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

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#29 import_fighter1
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

Three separate essences of the same whole.

Anyway, what does it matter what Christians call God? Some call Him Yeshua, some call Him Jehova, some use names I can't even pronounce.

but then that means jesus was praying to himself?

God the Son praying to God the Father for God the Holy Spirit's blessing.

Man..talk about multiple personality disorder..
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"] Well you would think that this god would be popular enough that people would get his name straight like all the other gods.import_fighter1

It's all the same name. :| If I called Jesus "Yeshua" then it would be the exact same thing.

No it's not the same thing.. according to you your god's name has only been jesus for 2000 years but before jesus even existed his name has been "Yeshua". So for like all of infinity his name is yeshua and nobody hardly ever speaks of this and most christians have no idea that's his name.

:|

You can call God by one name, or by another name. But the names have the same meaning. There are dozens of names for God in both Greek and Hebrew. "Yeshua" is Greek and is rooted in the Hebrew "Je-Hoshua."

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but then that means jesus was praying to himself? HipYoungster42
3 Different people, same person. I guess you non-Christian variety can call him Dissociative.

Funny, I just so happen to be watching Fight Club this very moment.

When I first saw the movie, bricks were **** and I had a hard time getting to sleep because I didn't get what the **** just happened :lol:

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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]3 Different people, same person.dog64

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

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[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

It's all the same name. :| If I called Jesus "Yeshua" then it would be the exact same thing.

Theokhoth

No it's not the same thing.. according to you your god's name has only been jesus for 2000 years but before jesus even existed his name has been "Yeshua". So for like all of infinity his name is yeshua and nobody hardly ever speaks of this and most christians have no idea that's his name.

:|

You can call God by one name, or by another name. But the names have the same meaning. There are dozens of names for God in both Greek and Hebrew. "Yeshua" is Greek and is rooted in the Hebrew "Je-Hoshua."

Yeah. The different names dont mean different Gods but different languages that the believers spoke.

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[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="supa_badman"]3 Different people, same person.Theokhoth

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]3 Different people, same person.dog64

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

It is contradictory, but he's God and he can do that type of stuff I guess. He prayed to God the Father to help him through troubles and prayed praise to him, he was human as well mind you.
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l say 'jehovah'

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="dog64"]

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

dog64

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

To me the Trinity is nothing more than just a separation of the different perceptions of God. One God.

God (the Father) is the "image" of God that awaits you in heaven and is the perfect being. The Holy Spirit is the power that makes you see the light. And Jesus was the medium-image through which God came in direct communication with humans.

I choose to see the Trinity not schematichally. But perception-wise.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="dog64"]

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

dog64

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

One and separate. Three separate essences of the same whole, each with different qualities. Jesus is God the Son, who prayed to God the Father, and was blessed by God the Holy Spirit.

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[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="dog64"]

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

If the voice in the air and the dove that came down when Jesus had been baptized both wasn't The Holy Spirit and God, then what was that?
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[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

Teenaged

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

To me the Trinity is nothing more than just a separation of the different perceptions of God. One God.

God (the Father) is the "image" of God that awaits you in heaven and is the perfect being. The Holy Spirit is the power that makes you see the light. And Jesus was the medium-image through which God came in direct communication with humans.

I choose to see the Trinity not schematichally. But perception-wise.

I don't get why this is so difficult to understand.

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[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="dog64"]

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

And how lucifer came to earth and bread with the woman and that's how he is on earth now passing on the bloodline, wait.. christians don't teach that..
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="dog64"]

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

Theokhoth

To me the Trinity is nothing more than just a separation of the different perceptions of God. One God.

God (the Father) is the "image" of God that awaits you in heaven and is the perfect being. The Holy Spirit is the power that makes you see the light. And Jesus was the medium-image through which God came in direct communication with humans.

I choose to see the Trinity not schematichally. But perception-wise.

I don't get why this is so difficult to understand.

Yeah I never had a problem with that weirdly enough.

And to add: in the end its the same God. He is not separated either physically or spiritually, neither is he in 3 pieces or 3 separate entities. The source is one.

Its just that there are 3 predominant manifestations of the source.

Thats MY opinion, according to MY perception.

(RED) I guess we disagree here Theokhoth, :P but that also is based on perception and whether one sees the separation of those manifestations to be significant enough to perceive them as 3 separate entities which I believe is a minor detail.

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#43 HipYoungster42
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[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

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Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

And how lucifer came to earth and bread with the woman and that's how he is on earth now passing on the bloodline, wait.. christians don't teach that..

Jesus and God aren't the same being. There. Argument over.;)

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#44 Dariency
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[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Because Jesus was fully human and fully God. . .like any other human, Jesus needed to pray, to be baptised, and to die.

Theokhoth

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

One and separate. Three separate essences of the same whole, each with different qualities. Jesus is God the Son, who prayed to God the Father, and was blessed by God the Holy Spirit.

You really didn't answer if they were all one being or not. The Trinity teaches that the father, son, and holy spirt are all one. Therefore, that would mean the father and son are one, one being. If Jesus was god then, he couldn't of been praying to his father, who the Bible says was in heaven.

How can they be both? The Bible teaches that there is one god, not three versions of him. There is god, and he has a son.

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#45 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="dog64"]

Well, to sum it up, answer this: Were god, Jesus, and the Holy Sprit all one being?

If there are not, then the Trinity is false.

If they are, then Jesus couldn't of been praying to anyone in heaven because he is the one being. Some Christians teach that god left heaven to come to earth.

dog64

One and separate. Three separate essences of the same whole, each with different qualities. Jesus is God the Son, who prayed to God the Father, and was blessed by God the Holy Spirit.

You really didn't answer if they were all one being or not. The Trinity teaches that the father, son, and holy spirt are all one. Therefore, that would mean the father and son are one, one being. If Jesus was god then, he couldn't of been praying to his father, who the Bible says was in heaven.

How can they be both? The Bible teaches that there is one god, not three versions of him. There is god, and he has a son.

I believe I did answer. . .anyway, Teenaged summed it up just fine; if you still don't understand it, consult a pastor.

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#46 Dariency
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I believe I did answer. . .anyway, Teenaged summed it up just fine; if you still don't understand it, consult a pastor.

Theokhoth

It's a simple question. Are god, Jesus, and the holy sprit all one being? Yes, or no?

You said there are one and seperate. They can't be both. Jesus is either god in the flesh, and since there is only one god, there was no other god in heaven, or god and Jesus are seperate beings. God is the father, and Jesus is his begotten son.

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#47 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I believe I did answer. . .anyway, Teenaged summed it up just fine; if you still don't understand it, consult a pastor.

dog64

It's a simple question. Are god, Jesus, and the holy sprit all one being? Yes, or no?

You said there are one and seperate. They can't be both. Jesus is either god in the flesh, and since there is only one god, there was no other god in heaven, or god and Jesus are seperate beings. God is the father, and Jesus is his begotten son.

I think that this sort of refutation of the trinity fits in a debate with evangelists who take the terms "birth", "begotten", "father", "son" etc in their utmost literal sense.

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It's a simple question. Are god, Jesus, and the holy sprit all one being? Yes, or no?

You said there are one and seperate. They can't be both. Jesus is either god in the flesh, and since there is only one god, there was no other god in heaven, or god and Jesus are seperate beings. God is the father, and Jesus is his begotten son.

dog64


Think of it like this:



You are taking it too literally.

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#49 import_fighter1
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[QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I believe I did answer. . .anyway, Teenaged summed it up just fine; if you still don't understand it, consult a pastor.

It's a simple question. Are god, Jesus, and the holy sprit all one being? Yes, or no?

You said there are one and seperate. They can't be both. Jesus is either god in the flesh, and since there is only one god, there was no other god in heaven, or god and Jesus are seperate beings. God is the father, and Jesus is his begotten son.

Isn't lucifer a god of hell just as yeaweh is god of heaven? I don't get how its only one god. yeaweh doesn't rule hell.
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[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="dog64"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I believe I did answer. . .anyway, Teenaged summed it up just fine; if you still don't understand it, consult a pastor.

It's a simple question. Are god, Jesus, and the holy sprit all one being? Yes, or no?

You said there are one and seperate. They can't be both. Jesus is either god in the flesh, and since there is only one god, there was no other god in heaven, or god and Jesus are seperate beings. God is the father, and Jesus is his begotten son.

Isn't lucifer a god of hell just as yeaweh is god of heaven? I don't get how its only one god. yeaweh doesn't rule hell.

What? :? No, there's only one God.