Why I am against abortion

"The fact that you don't see a foetus as a human or as conscious on some level doesn't mean that everyone will sympathise with your view or your ethics either."

So why does the same principle not apply to you?

Okay, fine i will have to play the biggest card here: there are many much more pressing and urgetn problems concerning the entire world such as the pollution, nuclear and chemical weapons. Then there are the problems concernin the third world and more than half the world population. I mean with the money spent for both of the various things concerning abortion and suicide, we could have saved lives of millions of people who WANT TO LIVE AND ALREADY ARE FULLY CONCSIOUS. What the hell is the point of all yu do-gooders when yu as ignorant as the american populace.

Its likeifthe fireman, instead of saving yur burning house was busy saving yur cat who is on the tree. It's completely illogical, ignorant and i would feel like strangling the fireman i probably would.)

Okay, fine i will have to play the biggest card here: there are many much more pressing and urgetn problems concerning the entire world such as the pollution, nuclear and chemical weapons. Then there are the problems concernin the third world and more than half the world population. I mean with the money spent for both of the various things concerning abortion and suicide, we could have saved lives of millions of people who WANT TO LIVE AND ALREADY ARE FULLY CONCSIOUS. What the hell is the point of all yu do-gooders when yu as ignorant as the american populace.

Its likeifthe fireman, instead of saving yur burning house was busy saving yur cat who is on the tree. It's completely illogical, ignorant and i would feel like strangling the fireman i probably would.)

lukadragon

What if that 6 day old baby was a product of a 13 year old girl getting raped by her grandfather?
I'm not joking, there is a place for abortion in society.
It's not always so cut and dry.

One more thing: The people going for abortions have their reasons. If they were forced to raise a child against their will, you can change that picture of a happy bride to a crackhead in a jail uniform.

Conjuration

I completely understand where your coming from on that one, but why should that child have to die for someone elses transgressions?

Okay, fine i will have to play the biggest card here: there are many much more pressing and urgetn problems concerning the entire world such as the pollution, nuclear and chemical weapons. Then there are the problems concernin the third world and more than half the world population. I mean with the money spent for both of the various things concerning abortion and suicide, we could have saved lives of millions of people who WANT TO LIVE AND ALREADY ARE FULLY CONCSIOUS. What the hell is the point of all yu do-gooders when yu as ignorant as the american populace.

Its likeifthe fireman, instead of saving yur burning house was busy saving yur cat who is on the tree. It's completely illogical, ignorant and i would feel like strangling the fireman i probably would.)

lukadragon

[QUOTE="theone86"]

"The fact that you don't see a foetus as a human or as conscious on some level doesn't mean that everyone will sympathise with your view or your ethics either."

So why does the same principle not apply to you?

jimmyjammer69

I understand why they feel strongly, I understand about wanting to have your voice heard, but I don't see how that connects to legislation. You can feel strongly about something and still not feel the need to legislate your position to other people who feel differently.

May i remind you that the goverment wants absolutely nothing to do with this and are such B******* that they would rather spend 1.2 trillion dollars on "Defense"(which does not inlcude anti-terrorist prevention and intelligence gathering) so they could defend the U.S aginst.......absolutely nothing at all,no in fact it's used so they could oppress small third world nations even more effectively and sadistically ( getting people such as pinochet to lead countries and making the media and U.S public think of him as a "Hero". Utter BS)

I mean sure the U.S government could solve all of todays problems and colonise Mars, but no instead they want to slightly increase their domination over the world by stealing natural resources of small third/second world countries such as Venezuela and Panama........ So since they aren't going to help the world and rather risk it to go back into the dark ages, it is the charities and non-governmental organisations that have to do it, exept they haven't got 1.2 trillion dollars, do they? They can barely do anything about the third world and environment; they are just lessening the massive amount of damage and slightly improve life for some third world people...

So it's in this scenarios that billions of dollars from rich american conservatist are used to win elections and ban things such as abortion...As such, everytime those people win elections be it however small they get more chances of imposing their sad, rigid old way of life on people who do not care for it at all and think its complete BS that they be forced to adhere to these kinds ofrules that are contradictory to their culture.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"]Why put so much value on something that "Can be".hip-hop-cola2

As worrying as it sounds, I could justify it. It's drawing the line where I struggle, a 3 month old has no idea it even exists so why not allow a family who has undergone a sudden economic struggle to euthanasia there child, Im sure almost nobody would, but why not.

Dude? Did I just read that you are down for killing babies??! Abortion is one thing . . . but . . . babies? Seriously? :?

Edit: This is a semi-joke on my part... I think?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"]Why put so much value on something that "Can be".hip-hop-cola2

Why not? If you don't, you could justify infanticide as easily as abortion.

As worrying as it sounds, I could justify it. It's drawing the line where I struggle, a 3 month old has no idea it even exists so why not allow a family who has undergone a sudden economic struggle to euthanasia there child, Im sure almost nobody would, but why not.

I'm not sure about this one, on one side I want it to be prohibited to perform an abortion, but on the other hand I want it to be up to the individual to choose.

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Why not? If you don't, you could justify infanticide as easily as abortion.

KSU-Wildcat

As worrying as it sounds, I could justify it. It's drawing the line where I struggle, a 3 month old has no idea it even exists so why not allow a family who has undergone a sudden economic struggle to euthanasia there child, Im sure almost nobody would, but why not.

Dude? Did I just read that you are down for killing babies??! Abortion is one thing . . . but . . . babies? Seriously? :?

Edit: This is a semi-joke on my part... I think?

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"]

As worrying as it sounds, I could justify it. It's drawing the line where I struggle, a 3 month old has no idea it even exists so why not allow a family who has undergone a sudden economic struggle to euthanasia there child, Im sure almost nobody would, but why not.

Dude? Did I just read that you are down for killing babies??! Abortion is one thing . . . but . . . babies? Seriously? :?

Edit: This is a semi-joke on my part... I think?

I think this thread should be locked now, it isn't going anywhere.McJugga

Just a quick word of advice, if you want a thread of yours to be locked, I recommend you pm a mod.

Suggest murdering children, thread locked. 8)

And the abortion argument was never going to go anywhere anyway.

[QUOTE="McJugga"]I think this thread should be locked now, it isn't going anywhere.chessmaster1989

Just a quick word of advice, if you want a thread of yours to be locked, I recommend you pm a mod.

I disagree... an abortion is better then having the kid grow up in a terrible famiy, get addicted to drugs, and die out on the streets. Besides, at 3 months old, you aren't killing a person. You're killing a bunch of cells without the capacity for emotion or awareness.

I disagree... an abortion is better then having the kid grow up in a terrible famiy, get addicted to drugs, and die out on the streets. Besides, at 3 months old, you aren't killing a person. You're killing a bunch of cells without the capacity for emotion or awareness.

awsss

I disagree... an abortion is better then having the kid grow up in a terrible famiy, get addicted to drugs, and die out on the streets. Besides, at 3 months old, you aren't killing a person. You're killing a bunch of cells without the capacity for emotion or awareness.

awsss

[QUOTE="awsss"]

I disagree... an abortion is better then having the kid grow up in a terrible famiy, get addicted to drugs, and die out on the streets. Besides, at 3 months old, you aren't killing a person. You're killing a bunch of cells without the capacity for emotion or awareness.

McJugga

Exactly. How can you be sure he/she is going to have a terrible life? What if he/she overcomes a bad childhood and have success in their life? I know a lot of people who had a terrible childhood and now they are living their lives and enjoying themselves. I really think people deserve the chance to live, not killed when they don't have the means to defend themselves. It may not be in all cases, because sometimes the mother may die in the process of birth, but I've heard of cases where the woman wants to abort because she wants to keep her figure and that's just heartless.