Why is Gamespot the most sensitive forum in the world?

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#151 cybrcatter
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="mitu123"] He is right for the most part.

mitu123

I suspect that he's referring to a certain someone who had a thread suggesting that sigs featuring sexy ladies should be disallowed

I remember that thread.

I hated it!:x

:lol: I'm sure you did.
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#152 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] I suspect that he's referring to a certain someone who had a thread suggesting that sigs featuring sexy ladies should be disallowedcybrcatter

I remember that thread.

I hated it!:x

:lol: I'm sure you did.

I was like "WTF? Is he serious":|.:lol:

I think it got locked too. Shows that they should stay!:x

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#153 ShadowJax04
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I can make do without swearing at one forum. I can scream FFFFUUU right in the face of anyone IRL, it's not exactly a biggie that I can't do here :P I can get my point across without. And.. well.. it just aint a point of irritation for me, sorry.
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#154 ObeseBanana
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Is a user not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No, it belongs to the mods.

It's just how it is, dictatorship ftw

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#155 Hexagon_777
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I know what you mean, TC. You cannot even have debates on here and tell somebody that they are wrong when they are clearly wrong because that will result in immediate moderation. There are also troll reporters who report posts and fool the mods because the mods don't actually check the context of the posts. It is quite the imposition but one must tolerate such behaviour in this very hostile posting environment.

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#156 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I would say you're a bad person for treating people like **** over the internet. You wouldn't do it in real-life, because you'd be knocked out. So why would you do it online?

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#157 Hexagon_777
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Do you post in system wars, because if you do, that's your problem. ferrari2001
Not at all. I have actually received less moderations in SW than here. I deem OT to be a far more hostile board with more trolls. SW may have more fanboys, but being a fanboy doesn't mean you're a skilled troll.

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#158 Jaguar_Shade
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I know what you mean, TC. You cannot even have debates on here and tell somebody that they are wrong when they are clearly wrong because that will result in immediate moderation. There are also troll reporters who report posts and fool the mods because the mods don't actually check the context of the posts. It is quite the imposition but one must tolerate such behaviour in this very hostile posting environment.

Hexagon_777
I find if I don't troll others to begin with, everyone is a lot less hostile. You could try the same technique?
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#159 Loco_Live
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▲ Hmmm, just got another one. Apparently I was doing something illegal. Which I wasn't. GS mods need to take there rule book and revise it. Posting here is no fun if you get in touble for every little thing. ▲

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#160 meteo_ryte
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I believe the mods are trying to avoid arguments, not eliminate discussions. Most arguments cannot be won, because neither side will admit being wrong. So the mods have to cut it off before it gets out of hand.
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#161 rawsavon
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▲ Hmmm, just got another one. Apparently I was doing something illegal. Which I wasn't. GS mods need to take there rule book and revise it. Posting here is no fun if you get in touble for every little thing. ▲

Loco_Live
The mods don't create the rules...they enforce them
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#162 Godly_Cure
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I've actually been on more sensitive forums....:P
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#163 AndYOU
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That's why i generally stay away from SW...
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#164 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] we're civil here :Pariz3260

C, c, civility actually exists on teh interweb? :shock:

hence the shock of not being able to say the word ---- here...
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#165 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Hmmm, just got another one. Apparently I was doing something illegal. Which I wasn't. GS mods need to take there rule book and revise it. Posting here is no fun if you get in touble for every little thing. ▲

rawsavon

The mods don't create the rules...they enforce them

▲ Well, the rules still need to be revised. ▲

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#166 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Hmmm, just got another one. Apparently I was doing something illegal. Which I wasn't. GS mods need to take there rule book and revise it. Posting here is no fun if you get in touble for every little thing. ▲

The mods don't create the rules...they enforce them

▲ Well, the rules still need to be revised. ▲

I am sure that they have done quite a lot of analysis on what generates the most traffic on this site (that is the purpose...to sell ad space for more money) ...and they have been successful. Why would the most successful game site change? What motivation would they have to revise their policies?
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#167 rragnaar
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▲ Hmmm, just got another one. Apparently I was doing something illegal. Which I wasn't. GS mods need to take there rule book and revise it. Posting here is no fun if you get in touble for every little thing. ▲

Loco_Live
Piracy is illegal... and discussing torrents on this site goes against the ToU. In any case, it was a warning, which is our way of saying, 'Hey, don't do that.'
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#168 Bloodseeker23
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Since there are about five zillion other sites that let you behave in as juvenile a fashion as you like, I don't see the point in hanging out here and complaining about how restricted you are.xaos
Indeed, go tell 'em Xaos! :P
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#169 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Hmmm, just got another one. Apparently I was doing something illegal. Which I wasn't. GS mods need to take there rule book and revise it. Posting here is no fun if you get in touble for every little thing. ▲

Piracy is illegal... and discussing torrents on this site goes against the ToU. In any case, it was a warning, which is our way of saying, 'Hey, don't do that.'

Is that similar to complaining about getting a warning from a cop when he busted you speeding :P
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#170 scarecrowM
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I think its pretty fair here

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#171 Loco_Live
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ Hmmm, just got another one. Apparently I was doing something illegal. Which I wasn't. GS mods need to take there rule book and revise it. Posting here is no fun if you get in touble for every little thing. ▲

rragnaar

Piracy is illegal... and discussing torrents on this site goes against the ToU. In any case, it was a warning, which is our way of saying, 'Hey, don't do that.'

▲ But I was modderated for an Illegal activity, not for the discussion breaking the ToU. I should have been moderated for breaking the Tou, not the illegal activity of piracy or supplying information on torrents or giving one. The basis of the moderation was false. ▲

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#172 Swanogt19
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Can we have no more threads about "complaining about the mods/ruels on Gamespot" like there is a ban on YLYL. Almost everyday there is another thread about the mods or the rules. It's quite annoying.

Personally, I don't see how it is too hard to follow the these quite simple rules. If you don't like them and don't want to follow them, simply don't post here. :)

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#173 qwertywater
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Lol I got warned for saying "Cool story bro" (trolling)
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#174 MAILER_DAEMON
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Lol I got warned for saying "Cool story bro" (trolling)qwertywater
No you didn't.
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#175 LZ71
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I love when people try to lie about moderations and then get owned. :lol:
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#176 diegosanchezMMA
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[QUOTE="qwertywater"]Lol I got warned for saying "Cool story bro" (trolling)MAILER_DAEMON
No you didn't.

i laughed so hard when i read this :lol:

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#177 qwertywater
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[QUOTE="qwertywater"]Lol I got warned for saying "Cool story bro" (trolling)MAILER_DAEMON
No you didn't.

Not on this account >.>
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#178 Bladecutter56
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[QUOTE="Bladecutter56"]

[QUOTE="warownslife"]

Damn. This is like watching the mods fight in an arena. Wheres my popcorn? Also trust me, its better than gamefaqs.com. Their not friendly.

MAILER_DAEMON

I figured they were the exact same forum with the exact same moderators, just different websites and different looks.

But, yeah, it's interesting watching all of the mods take "THE TRUTH" and smack the troublemakers over the head with it.

:? No way... there's no overlap between GF mods and GS mods.

Well that would certainly explain why I was moderated on GameFAQs three or four times but never on here.

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#179 MasterBolt360
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Hardcore pwnage.

GabuEx

Win! :lol:

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#180 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="qwertywater"]Lol I got warned for saying "Cool story bro" (trolling)qwertywater
No you didn't.

Not on this account >.>

Then why make another account only to talk about getting modded on another one?
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#181 espoac
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While I respect Gamespot's right to censure and create any sort of environment on these forums they wish, it's hard not to think that opening the rules up wouldn't make things a bit more interesting. Whenever posting in a political/religion thread it's pretty much guaranteed that I censure opinion in order not to risk being accused of violating the ToU.

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#182 garathe_den
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I don't know. But when opinions are moderated, you know you're wasting your time

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#183 MystikFollower
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Don't like the way things are run here then go seek out Google and find a new forum. Nobody's forcing you to post here, but you did accept the ToU when signing up so, piss and moan all you want, but you chose to be here and you consented to the policies you are now complaining about. There's plenty of other forums out there, the internet is a little bigger than GS.

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#184 Espada12
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Do you post in system wars, because if you do, that's your problem. Hexagon_777

Not at all. I have actually received less moderations in SW than here. I deem OT to be a far more hostile board with more trolls. SW may have more fanboys, but being a fanboy doesn't mean you're a skilled troll.

Most definitely, my more recent and serious moderations have all come from OT. Most from SW was back when I was a TOU noob, but OT seems to be extremely hostile when it comes to opinions.

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#185 Espada12
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Don't like the way things are run here then go seek out Google and find a new forum. Nobody's forcing you to post here, but you did accept the ToU when signing up so, piss and moan all you want, but you chose to be here and you consented to the policies. There's plenty of other forums out there, the internet is a little bigger than GS.

MystikFollower

Some people like the website and users you know? Just because they don't agree with the way things are handled in terms of moderations doesn't mean they should just leave without seeing if they can get stuff changed.

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#186 MystikFollower
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[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

Don't like the way things are run here then go seek out Google and find a new forum. Nobody's forcing you to post here, but you did accept the ToU when signing up so, piss and moan all you want, but you chose to be here and you consented to the policies. There's plenty of other forums out there, the internet is a little bigger than GS.

Espada12

Some people like the website and users you know? Just because they don't agree with the way things are handled in terms of moderations doesn't mean they should just leave without seeing if they can get stuff changed.

So how does making a thread and ****ing about feeling like a prisoner here change or help anything? I love the people here to, and I actually have no problem with the policies. It's easy to be completely free with your words, present your opinion, and not be moderated. I don't get what's so difficult about avoiding moderations.

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#187 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

Don't like the way things are run here then go seek out Google and find a new forum. Nobody's forcing you to post here, but you did accept the ToU when signing up so, piss and moan all you want, but you chose to be here and you consented to the policies. There's plenty of other forums out there, the internet is a little bigger than GS.

MystikFollower

Some people like the website and users you know? Just because they don't agree with the way things are handled in terms of moderations doesn't mean they should just leave without seeing if they can get stuff changed.

So how does making a thread and ****ing about feeling like a prisoner here change or help anything? I love the people here to, and I actually have no problem with the policies. It's easy to be completely free with your words, present your opinion, and not be moderated. I don't get what's so difficult about avoiding moderations.

It makes the mods and admins aware of your concerns? I've seen quite a few of them post in this thread for instance. Also it's not easy to be completely free with your words, I have to tip toe around and especially hold back alot not to be moderated on this website. Then comes the issue with the TOU itself, leaving it open to interpretation is supposed to increase flexibility and that's cool, but some things are just too vague.

First of lemmings are the 360 fanboys, it's the given term for them in SW. So why is it trolling if you call someone a lemming? That makes no sense, especially since that's the name given to 360 fanboys by the board members and mods. Saying that legalising gay marriage is just gay explicitly stating it was a joke and some of the know gay members on the board joking around as well off the quote SHOULD NOT be grounds for moderation. It was clearly not meant to be offensive.

These are just some simple examples of MY moderations and I can imagine people have alot worse, so why shouldn't I express my concerns with the way moderations are handled? Another thing is mods should read the quotes before and after before they mod someone. Sometimes things are just taken out of context and people are unjustly moderated. For instance I remember Scorch62 being banned for saying he was banned before, now had that mod just read a few more quotes he would have realised that Scorch WAS banned before but it was overturned.....

The moderation here leaves alot to be desired and I for one enjoy the website (SW and reviews) more than any other gaming website so if I have an opportunity to be heard and even make some changed (haha not going to happen but whatever) I'll take it.

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#188 Santesyu
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If you don't like it , you got really 2 choices deal with it or well move on. Or third option fight the system via customer service not sure that does anything anyway tho lol.

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#189 testfactor888
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While I respect Gamespot's right to censure and create any sort of environment on these forums they wish, it's hard not to think that opening the rules up wouldn't make things a bit more interesting. Whenever posting in a political/religion thread it's pretty much guaranteed that I censure opinion in order not to risk being accused of violating the ToU.

espoac
agreed same goes for drug related threads. You have to tread very very carefully in those as to not get moderated
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#190 Espada12
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[QUOTE="espoac"]

While I respect Gamespot's right to censure and create any sort of environment on these forums they wish, it's hard not to think that opening the rules up wouldn't make things a bit more interesting. Whenever posting in a political/religion thread it's pretty much guaranteed that I censure opinion in order not to risk being accused of violating the ToU.

testfactor888

agreed same goes for drug related threads. You have to tread very very carefully in those as to not get moderated

Those are alot more understandable though. You can discuss the drugs but don't discuss personal usage, that's a pretty clear cut rule.

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#191 MystikFollower
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[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Some people like the website and users you know? Just because they don't agree with the way things are handled in terms of moderations doesn't mean they should just leave without seeing if they can get stuff changed.

Espada12

So how does making a thread and ****ing about feeling like a prisoner here change or help anything? I love the people here to, and I actually have no problem with the policies. It's easy to be completely free with your words, present your opinion, and not be moderated. I don't get what's so difficult about avoiding moderations.

It makes the mods and admins aware of your concerns? I've seen quite a few of them post in this thread for instance. Also it's not easy to be completely free with your words, I have to tip toe around and especially hold back alot not to be moderated on this website. Then comes the issue with the TOU itself, leaving it open to interpretation is supposed to increase flexibility and that's cool, but some things are just too vague.

First of lemmings are the 360 fanboys, it's the given term for them in SW. So why is it trolling if you call someone a lemming? That makes no sense, especially since that's the name given to 360 fanboys by the board members and mods. Saying that legalising gay marriage is just gay explicitly stating it was a joke and some of the know gay members on the board joking around as well off the quote SHOULD NOT be grounds for moderation. It was clearly not meant to be offensive.

These are just some simple examples of MY moderations and I can imagine people have alot worse, so why shouldn't I express my concerns with the way moderations are handled? Another thing is mods should read the quotes before and after before they mod someone. Sometimes things are just taken out of context and people are unjustly moderated. For instance I remember Scorch62 being banned for saying he was banned before, now had that mod just read a few more quotes he would have realised that Scorch WAS banned before but it was overturned.....

The moderation here leaves alot to be desired and I for one enjoy the website (SW and reviews) more than any other gaming website so if I have an opportunity to be heard and even make some changed (haha not going to happen but whatever) I'll take it.

Still, there's an entire forum dedicated to Mod/User feedback so why post it in OT. I'm fine with the policies and like I say, if people don't like them, they know where the search bar is.

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#192 testfactor888
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[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="espoac"]

While I respect Gamespot's right to censure and create any sort of environment on these forums they wish, it's hard not to think that opening the rules up wouldn't make things a bit more interesting. Whenever posting in a political/religion thread it's pretty much guaranteed that I censure opinion in order not to risk being accused of violating the ToU.

Espada12

agreed same goes for drug related threads. You have to tread very very carefully in those as to not get moderated

Those are alot more understandable though. You can discuss the drugs but don't discuss personal usage, that's a pretty clear cut rule.

Its hard to discuss drug threads when you are for them. You can't really argue your point if you can't even admit what you have done.
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#193 pianist
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Seems some people get modded for posting the exact same thing that others post all the time...do they get modded too? hard to tell for certain...I'd bet that some mods see how people post, maybe they don't agree with a political opinion, or something else...then they see you here, posting something that quite frankly may or may not be against the TOU and interpret the TOU in their own way to justify modding you...simply because they don't like you.

but maybe I'm just taking it personally...:roll:

tocklestein2005

Getting moderations is a lot like getting speeding tickets. We can't be everywhere at once, and it is simply not possible to catch every violation, which is why we rely on users to report violations for us. If you were moderated for something that another person wasn't moderated for, it doesn't mean that what he did was OK, or that a mod has a personal vendetta against you. It means your comment was reported by someone and the other guy's comment wasn't.

I'll be blunt and honest - we deal with far too many reports on a daily basis to be bothered with petty grudges. And I don't doubt that my colleagues, like me, have gotten to the point where they are completely unemotional in dealing with those reports. A user will occasionally draw the ire of us as a collective group, but that's because they are blatantly and continually abusing their forum privileges (usually ban dodgers), and those users don't last long - not because we're petty, but because it's clear they have no interest in participating in the community in a civil manner.

Users are another story, though, and given that most moderations occur as the result of reporting, you can rest assured that if you're frequently moderated, you've probably got some enemies amongst the user base, and you're giving them the opportunity to "get back at you" by refusing to follow the rules.

We're very frequently accused of power tripping... but until you're a mod, you will never really understand how far from the truth that accusation is. I'm not surprised that's how people feel, though, given how frequently users lie about their moderation experiences (either directly, or more frequently by omission) to portray us as power trippers.

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#194 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]I know what you mean, TC. You cannot even have debates on here and tell somebody that they are wrong when they are clearly wrong because that will result in immediate moderation. There are also troll reporters who report posts and fool the mods because the mods don't actually check the context of the posts. It is quite the imposition but one must tolerate such behaviour in this very hostile posting environment.Jaguar_Shade
I find if I don't troll others to begin with, everyone is a lot less hostile. You could try the same technique?

I do hope you see the irony in your post.

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#195 Jaguar_Shade
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[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]I know what you mean, TC. You cannot even have debates on here and tell somebody that they are wrong when they are clearly wrong because that will result in immediate moderation. There are also troll reporters who report posts and fool the mods because the mods don't actually check the context of the posts. It is quite the imposition but one must tolerate such behaviour in this very hostile posting environment.Hexagon_777

I find if I don't troll others to begin with, everyone is a lot less hostile. You could try the same technique?

I do hope you see the irony in your post.

Explain it to me, as there's nothing inflammatory about my post. I've found if I don't start trouble, I don't get in any trouble. Or, just click report and ignore.
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#196 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"] I find if I don't troll others to begin with, everyone is a lot less hostile. You could try the same technique?Jaguar_Shade
I do hope you see the irony in your post.

Explain it to me, as there's nothing inflammatory about my post. I've found if I don't start trouble, I don't get in any trouble. Or, just click report and ignore.

The very fact that you insinuated that I am a troll is against the ToU. That's my point. Also, the fact that I don't start trouble but encounter trolls and people who state ridiculous things that are not actually moddable is what I am on about. SW is pretty tame compared to what goes on here in OT, like I said. Ignoring is probably the best option but then discussion may take a hit. It's annoying, really.

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#197 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]I do hope you see the irony in your post.Hexagon_777

Explain it to me, as there's nothing inflammatory about my post. I've found if I don't start trouble, I don't get in any trouble. Or, just click report and ignore.

The very fact that you insinuated that I am a troll is against the ToU. That's my point. Also, the fact that I don't start trouble but encounter trolls and people who state ridiculous things that are not actually moddable is what I am on about. SW is pretty tame compared to what goes on here in OT, like I said. Ignoring is probably the best option but then discussion may take a hit. It's annoying, really.

Oh, the part about ridiculous things that are not modable - I've encountered that several times with you, where you called me things I wasn't, just because I didn't have the brain power to explain sexism to you. So, yeah, It's annoying, really.
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#198 br0kenrabbit
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- Calling a console gamer with double standards a hypocrite. (Trolling)

Yes, generally speaking insulting someone is textbook trolling. :?

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'Hypocrite' has a very specific definition, and if a poster is obviously being hypocritical (as a statement of fact), as is often the case, what's trolling about calling them on it? To me the hypocrisy is more trolling than calling someone on it.

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#199 lonewolf604
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Kind of funny that the April Fools joke was generally about this problem, yet in reality most mods will never admit to it. I always read the ask the mods forum and the mods will always try to justify a moderation no matter how light it is.

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#200 BiancaDK
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TC mad