Why is Metal Disliked so much by the mainstream folks

[QUOTE="iwilson1296"]the few of us that do like this stuff love it because it's like our own and we are kind of the elite in the music scene. imho pianist

:lol:

And people say I'm snobby...

Sorry, but it's totally the contrary, metal is more and more mainstream to a frightening point. I was going to the library and a kid of 13 years old told me that my Behemoth shirt was awesome...

And you know what, when I have gone to see them, the age average was about 14 years old... I'm 24 damn it!

These kids don't care about music they only care about the strong image which I CAN'T TAKE!

I love metal and I play METAL BECAUSE IT'S A PASSION!

Redgarl

Oh boo hoo. If you're 24, act 24. Stop whining about what kids are doing now-a-days because it's only going to get worse as time goes on. I'm 23 and I know this already.

i was'nt implying that we're better , just fewer, that's what i meant anywaysiwilson1296

OK. But elite doesn't usually refer to just fewer. The word itself is typically associated with 'best' or at least 'exceptional.' Most people aren't axe murderers. That doesn't mean axe murderers are elite... unless you're talking about axe-murdering. And even then, some of them are probably really lousy axe murderers, so they wouldn't be elite at all. They'd be mediocre.

[QUOTE="iwilson1296"]i was'nt implying that we're better , just fewer, that's what i meant anywayspianist

OK. But elite doesn't usually refer to just fewer, but better too. Most people aren't axe murderers. That doesn't mean axe murderers are elite... unless you're talking about axe-murdering. And even then, some of them are probably really lousy axe murderers, so they wouldn't be elite at all. They'd be mediocre.

:lol:

You have something on your mind Pianist?

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="iwilson1296"]i was'nt implying that we're better , just fewer, that's what i meant anywaysSimpJee

OK. But elite doesn't usually refer to just fewer, but better too. Most people aren't axe murderers. That doesn't mean axe murderers are elite... unless you're talking about axe-murdering. And even then, some of them are probably really lousy axe murderers, so they wouldn't be elite at all. They'd be mediocre.

:lol:

You have something on your mind Pianist?

:lol:

Nah. It was just the first thing that sprung to my mind when thinking of a minority. Kind of strange, really.

[QUOTE="SimpJee"][QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="iwilson1296"]i was'nt implying that we're better , just fewer, that's what i meant anywayspianist

OK. But elite doesn't usually refer to just fewer, but better too. Most people aren't axe murderers. That doesn't mean axe murderers are elite... unless you're talking about axe-murdering. And even then, some of them are probably really lousy axe murderers, so they wouldn't be elite at all. They'd be mediocre.

:lol:

You have something on your mind Pianist?

:lol:

Nah. It was just the first thing that sprung to my mind when thinking of a minority. Kind of strange, really.

I'd sig that if I didn't have one already :P

So funny.

Ah, that would explain why the world hasn't imploded due to Pianist getting something wrong o_0rb2610

I'm often wrong. But yes, in this case the quote is correct as near as I can tell. Don't worry, though. It's easy to think it's wrong, because it's certainly not the modern spelling, and you aren't the first person that has pointed it out. It's also worth noting that even today, politicks refers to the act of discussing or engaging in politics, though I've never heard anyone use it that way. You don't say that Clinton or McCain are politicking. We use different words now.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Metal to a lot of people myself included, is just seen as Noise, and repetitive noise at that...especially the screaming, not enough melody

I love metallica, nin, skinny puppy, disturbed...

hopefully that paints a picture of my range

pianist

Then that's a very close minded view

Do you like every genre in existence? Because if you pass off even one with a stereotypical label (let's say polka for instance), then you're being just as 'close-minded.' He's right. Lots of people hear metal as being repetitive noise. And that's exactly what it is... it is a noisy genre and it is repetitive. Either you'll like that or you won't.

Too much noise..Too much contrroversy..Too much shocking Imagery

Thats why I love it soo much

Too much noise, not enough music.

Too much noise, not enough music.

Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]

Too much noise, not enough music.

airg6

It's not that I don't have an open mind, it's that I don't enjoy the stuff. To me most of it just sounds obnoxious and intrusive.

People sterotype metal because they dont know what it is. People who listen to metal can not like metal. If you don't listen to metal they shouldn't sterotype it. Helloiseeu

BAD WRITING!

To a certain extent they are. Corpse grinder for ya. I guess one of the best examples of grindcore is job for a cowboy.
airg6

lol

Because metal is nothing but obnoxious yelling/growling...banging on drums with no rythm at all...and just overall loudness with no flow or anything to it...-_MURS_-

Dunno about any other guitarist (cept maybe Petrucci) but I cannot play guitar to a drummer who has no rhythm. It's impossible. Listen to the intro to Kill The King by Megadeth and listen to how perfectly in time the guitar and drums are.

[QUOTE="-_MURS_-"]Because metal is nothing but obnoxious yelling/growling...banging on drums with no rythm at all...and just overall loudness with no flow or anything to it...AirGuitarist87

Dunno about any other guitarist (cept maybe Petrucci) but I cannot play guitar to a drummer who has no rhythm. It's impossible. Listen to the intro to Kill The King by Megadeth and listen to how perfectly in time the guitar and drums are.

I actually enjoyed that video. Too bad about the crap video and vocals.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]

[QUOTE="-_MURS_-"]Because metal is nothing but obnoxious yelling/growling...banging on drums with no rythm at all...and just overall loudness with no flow or anything to it...bradleybhoy

Dunno about any other guitarist (cept maybe Petrucci) but I cannot play guitar to a drummer who has no rhythm. It's impossible. Listen to the intro to Kill The King by Megadeth and listen to how perfectly in time the guitar and drums are.

I actually enjoyed that video. Too bad about the crap video and vocals.

I didn't think the vocals were bad...What would you prefer Michael Bolton singing it? He has a "good" voice. Or maybe Kanye West rapping?

Because it's all the same.

A bunch of white guys with long hair and no real reason to be angry screaming their depressing verses about war, suicide and unrequited love, whilst everyone just does what they want on their instruments, meanwhile there's a solo here and there but they all sound the same too.

/ignorant "opinion"

bradleybhoy

Because it's all the same.

A bunch of white guys with long hair and no real reason to be angry screaming their depressing verses about war, suicide and unrequited love, whilst everyone just does what they want on their instruments, meanwhile there's a solo here and there but they all sound the same too.

/ignorant "opinion"

bradleybhoy

That's borderline racist. Herman Li and Howard Jones are my favourite metal musicians and they aren't white.

My only problem is when friends or random people at my school look at my ipod and say my taste suck just because I have about 500 rock and classic rock songs then 1000 metal songs. They will say oh you don't have this new song that all the radio stations are playing and follow through to tell me I have no taste in music because not many people listen to metal and if most people don't like it it's awful.dukebd699

Well in my personal experience it is hard to get girls while metal is playing, and the girls you do get don't seem to want to take off their piercings and no one likes getting cut up .Mercenary848

Because it's all the same.

A bunch of white guys with long hair and no real reason to be angry screaming their depressing verses about war, suicide and unrequited love, whilst everyone just does what they want on their instruments, meanwhile there's a solo here and there but they all sound the same too.

/ignorant "opinion"

bradleybhoy

[QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

Because it's all the same.

A bunch of white guys with long hair and no real reason to be angry screaming their depressing verses about war, suicide and unrequited love, whilst everyone just does what they want on their instruments, meanwhile there's a solo here and there but they all sound the same too.

/ignorant "opinion"

silence790

[QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

Because it's all the same.

A bunch of white guys with long hair and no real reason to be angry screaming their depressing verses about war, suicide and unrequited love, whilst everyone just does what they want on their instruments, meanwhile there's a solo here and there but they all sound the same too.

/ignorant "opinion"

silence790

I have a pretty good feeling that was sarcasm.

Metal isn't nice music, therefore i don't listen to it. Thestyle doesn't connect with my personality, i'd rather listen to something more upbeatTheBigTicket21

Oh hey! I didn't know you were still around

I'm the opposite. I hate most catchy music. I like music that requires many listens before you get used to it. I'm sure if a bunch of rap and pop music listeners gave metal a try, they'd prefer it to the crap they listen to.

GodLovesDead

I agree. I think people who like rap would probably like metal too. They both generally focus around the low beat of drums, and there is a lot of shouting in both. Metal is guitar-centric though, while Rap is not.

[QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]Metal isn't nice music, therefore i don't listen to it. Thestyle doesn't connect with my personality, i'd rather listen to something more upbeatBerzz

Oh hey! I didn't know you were still around

Metal isn't nice music, therefore i don't listen to it. Thestyle doesn't connect with my personality, i'd rather listen to something more upbeatTheBigTicket21

Yeah it isn't exactly the nicest genre.

I could tell by your sig and avatar that metal wouldn't exactly be your thing though, lol.

[QUOTE="TheBigTicket21"]Metal isn't nice music, therefore i don't listen to it. Thestyle doesn't connect with my personality, i'd rather listen to something more upbeatLostProphetFLCL

Yeah it isn't exactly the nicest genre.

I could tell by your sig and avatar that metal wouldn't exactly be your thing though, lol.

I'm still wondering how people think metal isn't mainstream. Its been in the mainstream for years now.

People don't like the genre, cause yeah, they want a good tune they can drive to, sing a long with, etc, etc. Why is that wrong? As I said, WHO ARE YOU to judge someone's musical taste? Maybe they just can't understand where your coming from, in the same way you don't understand where they're coming from.

For everyone saying "oh its complex, theres talent, blah blah blah" theres also a lot of just terrible bands out there, and a lot of good, talented pop acts. John Mayer is a great guitar player, loads of talent, not a great lyricist but writes good pop and blues songs. He doesn't play triplets while screaming, but does that make him a bad musician?

The newer bands I really like are Mastodon, High On Fire, Killswitch Engage, Avenged Sevenfold, Between the Buried and Me.

A lot of other stuff I either don't like, or just isn't new. Meshuggah, Opeth, In Flames, Soilwork and a lot of other scandinavian metal I've been listening to since I bet a lot of other people on this board were in elementary school.

As said, I LOVE metal, but I won't bash people for liking Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance songs (I like some of their songs actually) and other bands.

Hell, my favorite singer is Brandon Boyd from Incubus. I'm also a huge fan of Social Distortion, MXPX, Oasis, etc, etc. As I got older, I stopped caring, and just listened to what I like.

And for the metal fan that got pissed off at another poster for bashing metal, now you know how he feels when you bash hip hop.

Instead of saying "its talentless garbage" how bout you listen to it, and realize that a lot of rappers are in someways poets (I'm talking about guys like Mos Def and Common, NOT Soulja Boy).

Because it's all the same.

A bunch of white guys with long hair and no real reason to be angry screaming their depressing verses about war, suicide and unrequited love, whilst everyone just does what they want on their instruments, meanwhile there's a solo here and there but they all sound the same too.

/ignorant "opinion"

bradleybhoy

:o OHEM GEE! I CAN NOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM!

i think its goes back to the age ol reason

Some people just dont like loud music and screaming or growling in there music

I'm still wondering how people think metal isn't mainstream. Its been in the mainstream for years now.

People don't like the genre, cause yeah, they want a good tune they can drive to, sing a long with, etc, etc. Why is that wrong? As I said, WHO ARE YOU to judge someone's musical taste? Maybe they just can't understand where your coming from, in the same way you don't understand where they're coming from.

For everyone saying "oh its complex, theres talent, blah blah blah" theres also a lot of just terrible bands out there, and a lot of good, talented pop acts. John Mayer is a great guitar player, loads of talent, not a great lyricist but writes good pop and blues songs. He doesn't play triplets while screaming, but does that make him a bad musician?

The newer bands I really like are Mastodon, High On Fire, Killswitch Engage, Avenged Sevenfold, Between the Buried and Me.

A lot of other stuff I either don't like, or just isn't new. Meshuggah, Opeth, In Flames, Soilwork and a lot of other scandinavian metal I've been listening to since I bet a lot of other people on this board were in elementary school.

As said, I LOVE metal, but I won't bash people for liking Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance songs (I like some of their songs actually) and other bands.

Hell, my favorite singer is Brandon Boyd from Incubus. I'm also a huge fan of Social Distortion, MXPX, Oasis, etc, etc. As I got older, I stopped caring, and just listened to what I like.

And for the metal fan that got pissed off at another poster for bashing metal, now you know how he feels when you bash hip hop.

Instead of saying "its talentless garbage" how bout you listen to it, and realize that a lot of rappers are in someways poets (I'm talking about guys like Mos Def and Common, NOT Soulja Boy).

InterpolWilco

people who listen to mainstream music because they actually like the way it sounds, i have no problem with. People who listen to mainstream music, cause it's what everyone else is listening to, and because it's popular=sheep

i think its goes back to the age ol reason

Some people just dont like loud music and screaming or growling in there music

Norg

Lol, I would have a lot more respect for modern metal without those death growl bands. I can understand why people would like the screaming in their music, but the growling just sounds silly.

What annoys me about one of my friends is that he says that Metallica's St. Anger album is their best one...

I know everyone has their own opinion on metal...but come on now.

[QUOTE="InterpolWilco"]

I'm still wondering how people think metal isn't mainstream. Its been in the mainstream for years now.

People don't like the genre, cause yeah, they want a good tune they can drive to, sing a long with, etc, etc. Why is that wrong? As I said, WHO ARE YOU to judge someone's musical taste? Maybe they just can't understand where your coming from, in the same way you don't understand where they're coming from.

For everyone saying "oh its complex, theres talent, blah blah blah" theres also a lot of just terrible bands out there, and a lot of good, talented pop acts. John Mayer is a great guitar player, loads of talent, not a great lyricist but writes good pop and blues songs. He doesn't play triplets while screaming, but does that make him a bad musician?

The newer bands I really like are Mastodon, High On Fire, Killswitch Engage, Avenged Sevenfold, Between the Buried and Me.

A lot of other stuff I either don't like, or just isn't new. Meshuggah, Opeth, In Flames, Soilwork and a lot of other scandinavian metal I've been listening to since I bet a lot of other people on this board were in elementary school.

As said, I LOVE metal, but I won't bash people for liking Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance songs (I like some of their songs actually) and other bands.

Hell, my favorite singer is Brandon Boyd from Incubus. I'm also a huge fan of Social Distortion, MXPX, Oasis, etc, etc. As I got older, I stopped caring, and just listened to what I like.

And for the metal fan that got pissed off at another poster for bashing metal, now you know how he feels when you bash hip hop.

Instead of saying "its talentless garbage" how bout you listen to it, and realize that a lot of rappers are in someways poets (I'm talking about guys like Mos Def and Common, NOT Soulja Boy).

dante_123456

people who listen to mainstream music because they actually like the way it sounds, i have no problem with. People who listen to mainstream music, cause it's what everyone else is listening to, and because it's popular=sheep

People in the Metal scene can be just as big of sheep as people who listen to whats in the mainstream.

What annoys me about one of my friends is that he says that Metallica's St. Anger album is their best one...

I know everyone has their own opinion on metal...but come on now.

AvIdGaMeR444

:lol: that's great.