why isnt god stoping this war? why isnt god doing anything? god is evil?

i just thought about this when i saw a guy wearing "smile god loves you" shirt in pizza hut. If god loves us so much, why is he letting us kill our selves? Why isnt god doing anything about the war, we are killing ourselves and fighting and god doesnt do anything. i no god isnt involved in this, and he dint start the war but if he is soo powerfull why doesnt he just stop it. i bet he could stop the war in 1 second or something. bottom line

DOES GOD ENJOY WATCHING US KILL OURSELVES ?

maybe god is evil..

i just thought about this when i saw a guy wearing "smile god loves you" shirt in pizza hut. If god loves us so much, why is he letting us kill our selves? Why isnt god doing anything about the war, we are killing ourselves and fighting and god doesnt do anything. i no god isnt involved in this, and he dint start the war but if he is soo powerfull why doesnt he just stop it. i bet he could stop the war in 1 second or something. bottom line

DOES GOD ENJOY WATCHING US KILL OURSELVES ?

maybe god is evil..

chicken_slasher

free will

/thread

[QUOTE="chicken_slasher"]

i just thought about this when i saw a guy wearing "smile god loves you" shirt in pizza hut. If god loves us so much, why is he letting us kill our selves? Why isnt god doing anything about the war, we are killing ourselves and fighting and god doesnt do anything. i no god isnt involved in this, and he dint start the war but if he is soo powerfull why doesnt he just stop it. i bet he could stop the war in 1 second or something. bottom line

DOES GOD ENJOY WATCHING US KILL OURSELVES ?

maybe god is evil..

ItalStallion777

free will

/thread

Bingo, And we have a winner.

i just thought about this when i saw a guy wearing "smile god loves you" shirt in pizza hut. If god loves us so much, why is he letting us kill our selves? Why isnt god doing anything about the war, we are killing ourselves and fighting and god doesnt do anything. i no god isnt involved in this, and he dint start the war but if he is soo powerfull why doesnt he just stop it. i bet he could stop the war in 1 second or something. bottom line

chicken_slasher

Because God is a 9 year old. And we are his lego toys :|i-like-pie

That explains why I can separate my legs from my torso so easily.

He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.jointed

wait would u let your "loved" ones kill themselves.. if god loves us.. why is he letting uschicken_slasher

wait would u let your "loved" ones kill themselves.. if god loves us.. why is he letting uschicken_slasher

That said, if they grab a shotgun and blow their brains out, there's about jack**** I can do.

He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.jointed

i'm sorry, please enlighten me on your superior beliefs and on what the "right" thing to believe in is then.

[QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.A_Tarkovsky

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

[QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.ItalStallion777

i'm sorry, please enlighten me on your superior beliefs and on what the "right" thing to believe in is then.

Existentialism FTW.

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.jointed

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

Now, I definitely disagree with this.

You still haven't explained what makes it a cheap-ass excuse.

but your not god... god is immortal.. he doesnt care if you have a shot gun.. he can snatch it out of your hands at anytime.. so why isnt he doing that?chicken_slasher

How's he gonna snatch it, Gravity?

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.jointed

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

Yes. God has known for all eternity exactly how things would turn out. In a sense we have no free will at all if God knows everything.

[QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.Frattracide

i'm sorry, please enlighten me on your superior beliefs and on what the "right" thing to believe in is then.

Existentialism FTW.

[QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.A_Tarkovsky

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

Now, I definitely disagree with this.

You still haven't explained what makes it a cheap-ass excuse.

Yes I have, if God created us knowing that so many people would suffer, I'd say he's evil...or at least apathetic.

[QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.A_Tarkovsky

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.jointed

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

Now, I definitely disagree with this.

You still haven't explained what makes it a cheap-ass excuse.

Yes I have, if God created us knowing that so many people would suffer, I'd say he's evil...or at least apathetic.

And there you have free will.

I see as either these 2 explanations:

1) God does not exist

2) God is just an entity that began existence and does not or isn't capable of tampering with our existence

:)

[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.A_Tarkovsky

i'm sorry, please enlighten me on your superior beliefs and on what the "right" thing to believe in is then.

Existentialism FTW.

Man 'A' saved a baby from a fire

Man 'A' died alone and crazy

Saving babies from fire will make you crazy.

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.Frattracide

i'm sorry, please enlighten me on your superior beliefs and on what the "right" thing to believe in is then.

Existentialism FTW.

Man 'A' saved a baby from a fire

Man 'A' died alone and crazy

Saving babies from fire will make you crazy.

Seems logical enough. LET THE BABIES BURN!

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.Frattracide

i'm sorry, please enlighten me on your superior beliefs and on what the "right" thing to believe in is then.

Existentialism FTW.

Man 'A' saved a baby from a fire

Man 'A' died alone and crazy

Saving babies from fire will make you crazy.

How staggeringly similar these two things are.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.A_Tarkovsky

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

Now, I definitely disagree with this.

You still haven't explained what makes it a cheap-ass excuse.

Yes I have, if God created us knowing that so many people would suffer, I'd say he's evil...or at least apathetic.

And there you have free will.

:lol:

You're a part of the lucky 10% who can actually realize such wishes. The vast majority of human's don't live in the western world. Their lives are basically like this:

Born--work--work--work--work--Die

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.A_Tarkovsky

i'm sorry, please enlighten me on your superior beliefs and on what the "right" thing to believe in is then.

Existentialism FTW.

Man 'A' saved a baby from a fire

Man 'A' died alone and crazy

Saving babies from fire will make you crazy.

How staggeringly similar these two things are.

can someone briefly explain extistentialism for me :(

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.A_Tarkovsky

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.jointed

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

Now, I definitely disagree with this.

You still haven't explained what makes it a cheap-ass excuse.

Yes I have, if God created us knowing that so many people would suffer, I'd say he's evil...or at least apathetic.

And there you have free will.

:lol:

You're a part of the lucky 10% who can actually realize such wishes. The vast majority of human's don't live in the western world. Their lives are basically like this:

Born--work--work--work--work--Die

i just thought about this when i saw a guy wearing "smile god loves you" shirt in pizza hut. If god loves us so much, why is he letting us kill our selves? Why isnt god doing anything about the war, we are killing ourselves and fighting and god doesnt do anything. i no god isnt involved in this, and he dint start the war but if he is soo powerfull why doesnt he just stop it. i bet he could stop the war in 1 second or something. bottom line

DOES GOD ENJOY WATCHING US KILL OURSELVES ?

maybe god is evil..

chicken_slasher

becuase alot of pepole dont have faith in god anymore. they dont turn to him in their hour of need.

[QUOTE="chicken_slasher"]

i just thought about this when i saw a guy wearing "smile god loves you" shirt in pizza hut. If god loves us so much, why is he letting us kill our selves? Why isnt god doing anything about the war, we are killing ourselves and fighting and god doesnt do anything. i no god isnt involved in this, and he dint start the war but if he is soo powerfull why doesnt he just stop it. i bet he could stop the war in 1 second or something. bottom line

DOES GOD ENJOY WATCHING US KILL OURSELVES ?

maybe god is evil..

NSR34GTR

becuase alot of pepole dont have faith in god anymore. they dont turn to him in their hour of need.

but yeah, 85% of the worlds population believes in some sort of god. is that not enough for him? He's a very needy guy if that is the case...

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.A_Tarkovsky

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

Now, I definitely disagree with this.

You still haven't explained what makes it a cheap-ass excuse.

Yes I have, if God created us knowing that so many people would suffer, I'd say he's evil...or at least apathetic.

And there you have free will.

:lol:

You're a part of the lucky 10% who can actually realize such wishes. The vast majority of human's don't live in the western world. Their lives are basically like this:

Born--work--work--work--work--Die

Could you please come with a proper argument?

I'm saying that the vast majority of humans can't realize the positive sides of free will, and that their lives consists of work and struggle.

Actually, life as a whole is a struggle, I fail to see why God would want to create such a world filled with suffering. For example, why the hell would he create a world with limited resources?

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="jointed"]He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.jointed

It's just another cheap ass excuse. If he really is all-knowing and almighty, he would have foreseen the consequences of giving us free will.

Now, I definitely disagree with this.

You still haven't explained what makes it a cheap-ass excuse.

Yes I have, if God created us knowing that so many people would suffer, I'd say he's evil...or at least apathetic.

And there you have free will.

:lol:

You're a part of the lucky 10% who can actually realize such wishes. The vast majority of human's don't live in the western world. Their lives are basically like this:

Born--work--work--work--work--Die

Could you please come with a proper argument?

I'm saying that the vast majority of humans can't realize the positive sides of free will, and that their lives consists of work and struggle.

Actually, life as a whole is a struggle, I fail to see why God would want to create such a world filled with suffering. For example, why the hell would he create a world with limited resources?

What do you mean by limited recourses? Are you refering to gasoline, which we have several alternatives for? How is that related to struggle? Are you talking about the workers?

You're being really vague.

Well basically because "he" isn't real..... But that's such a complicated conclusion that half the people don't get it and deny it and are like "Oh he just wants us to work out our own problems.. and kill the jews"... LOL Seriously...People are crazy. [Yeah I went to a church once where the preacher talked bad about jews for an hour, and spent the second hour explaining how our community was being overrun with muslims and unless they were converted they'd start suicide bombing our schools..... I was an atheist then, but my grandmother asked me to go with her, so I couldn't deny....After that I flat out told her I was atheist and would never go with her to church again, and now she (after saying she loves me) reminds me I'm going to hell....TallicaFan2005

Which, to me, is not much of a basis for choosing a philosophy. Just sayin'....

He gave humans free will...that BS is pretty much the only excuse christians have.jointed

Yeah, that old and tired excuse doesn't do anything for me either.

Well basically because "he" isn't real..... But that's such a complicated conclusion that half the people don't get it and deny it and are like "Oh he just wants us to work out our own problems.. and kill the jews"... LOL Seriously...People are crazy. [Yeah I went to a church once where the preacher talked bad about jews for an hour, and spent the second hour explaining how our community was being overrun with muslims and unless they were converted they'd start suicide bombing our schools..... I was an atheist then, but my grandmother asked me to go with her, so I couldn't deny....After that I flat out told her I was atheist and would never go with her to church again, and now she (after saying she loves me) reminds me I'm going to hell....TallicaFan2005

that's right, call the people you don't agree with crazy. :roll:

and btw, much more than half the population (world) has religious beliefs. so approximately 80% of the world "doesn't get it".

[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]Well basically because "he" isn't real..... But that's such a complicated conclusion that half the people don't get it and deny it and are like "Oh he just wants us to work out our own problems.. and kill the jews"... LOL Seriously...People are crazy. [Yeah I went to a church once where the preacher talked bad about jews for an hour, and spent the second hour explaining how our community was being overrun with muslims and unless they were converted they'd start suicide bombing our schools..... I was an atheist then, but my grandmother asked me to go with her, so I couldn't deny....After that I flat out told her I was atheist and would never go with her to church again, and now she (after saying she loves me) reminds me I'm going to hell....ItalStallion777

that's right, call the people you don't agree with crazy. :roll:

Oh, I guess I'll get my baseball bat and start beating jews, gays, scientists, video game devolopers, school science teachers, sex ed teachers, and muslims.... [that's not crazy?]