Why would anyone support the death penalty?

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#1 BrainScramble05
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Shouldn't the law be focusing on rehabilitating criminals instead? C'mon, it's barbaric. Is it wise to teach people not to kill... by killing them? I can't speak with raw facts on my side, but I don't think that the capital punishment lowers crime rates in general. It's a society's simplistic way of correcting its own problems, I say!
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#2 mad80boy
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The death penalty is considered to be the ultimate denial of human rights. It is the premeditated and cold-blooded killing of a human being by the state. This cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment is supposedly done in the name of justice. It violates the right to life as proclaimed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Such organizations as Amnesty International opposes the death penalty in all cases without exception regardless of the nature of the crime, the characteristics of the offender, or the method used by the state to kill the prisoner.

Gradually, in the course of social evolution, a consensus forms among nations and peoples that certain practices can no longer be tolerated. The death penalty is an example. Vestiges of these practices may continue, but those are aberrations that further underscore the fact that the world has turned against these practices. A majority of countries in the world has now abandoned the use of the death penalty, but the world has not yet formed a consensus against its use. For example, the most populous country in the world, China, executes thousands of people every year, and the most powerful country in the world, the United States, uses it regularly. Eighty-four countries retain the use of capital punishment. However, the number of countries employing the death penalty is declining and it is possible that worldwide opinion and pressure will gradually influence all countries to abandon this practice.
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#3 TheFragcat
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You have a good point but i say if you take someones life on purpose, for no reason then yours should be taken. An eye for an eye as they say.
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#4 BrainScramble05
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You have a good point but i say if you take someones life on purpose, for no reason then yours should be taken. An eye for an eye as they say.TheFragcat
Does that not make you a murderer also? You know what Gandhi says.
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#5 mad80boy
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You have a good point but i say if you take someones life on purpose, for no reason then yours should be taken. An eye for an eye as they say.TheFragcat

if you kill someone for murdering another person doesn't that make you to some degree as bad as them?

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You have a good point but i say if you take someones life on purpose, for no reason then yours should be taken. An eye for an eye as they say.TheFragcat

I would agree as long as it could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, so many innocent people were killed in this country by the death penalty. I don't think it would deter criminals either, America has had the system for years and people still comit murder, rape etc.

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Personally, if sombody kills people due to a mental illness, they should be locked up. After all, in a sense, it isn't thier fault.

However, the situation varies throughout the homocidal world. Say for instance, a man kills from frustration, from being humiliated or underminded. Should he be put to death for a sudden outburst of emotions that he couldn't really control? No, but he killed sombody, which is enough for him to be put in jail At least.

If sombody kills for fun, And yes, it happens, then they should definately be put to death. Why? Because they want to do what they do. It wouldnt be somthing they regret in later life, and shows they could easily do it again.

The death penalty and me are not friends. I can't make my mind up on if its a good idea or a inhumane idea. It all depends on the situation. Hope you guys agree :)

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I support it. Really why let them rot in jail? Kill em off and you have one less person to feed and take care of in the slammer. Don't we kill animals that attack humans?
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#9 aliblabla2007
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I don't support it, because I don't agree with the logic of "eye for an eye". It is far more productive to have a criminal imprisoned and then forced to do work than to kill him, in my opinion.
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#10 BrainScramble05
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[QUOTE="Mehozzy"]

Personally, if sombody kills people due to a mental illness, they should be locked up. After all, in a sense, it isn't thier fault.

However, the situation varies throughout the homocidal world. Say for instance, a man kills from frustration, from being humiliated or underminded. Should he be put to death for a sudden outburst of emotions that he couldn't really control? No, but he killed sombody, which is enough for him to be put in jail At least.

If sombody kills for fun, And yes, it happens, then they should definately be put to death. Why? Because they want to do what they do. It wouldnt be somthing they regret in later life, and shows they could easily do it again.

The death penalty and me are not friends. I can't make my mind up on if its a good idea or a inhumane idea. It all depends on the situation. Hope you guys agree :)

If they kill for fun, they should be isolated for an indefinite period of time. No one can ever be sure if they'll get better.
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Reabilitate this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case
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I support it. Really why let them rot in jail? Kill em off and you have one less person to feed and take care of in the slammer. Don't we kill animals that attack humans? fastesttruck
As far as I know, only if they're diseased. Why kill the unfortunate?
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Shouldn't the law be focusing on rehabilitating criminals instead? BrainScramble05
Many criminals simply don't learn or change. They ARE THE one who are not worth keeping. Keep the good, get rid of the bad. And its the tax payers money going to people we want to suffer. NOt a smart thing to do.
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#14 _IronManDude_
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I don't agree with the death penalty, either. I support years and years of mental torture, an endlessly ringing phone, an endlessly dripping tap, etc. They'll opt for the death penalty ;)
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[QUOTE="fastesttruck"]I support it. Really why let them rot in jail? Kill em off and you have one less person to feed and take care of in the slammer. Don't we kill animals that attack humans? BrainScramble05
As far as I know, only if they're diseased. Why kill the unfortunate?

Because they are a high risk to humanity. We have to get rid of the bad . Some things simply aren't curable right now.
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#16 BrainScramble05
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Reabilitate this: leeveeu
Wow. Anyway, I know the weight of my stance; I don't need examples. Do you know yours?
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#17 leeveeu
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I don't agree with the death penalty, either. I support years and years of mental torture, an endlessly ringing phone, an endlessly dripping tap, etc. They'll opt for the death penalty ;)_IronManDude_
:lol: Indeed, in some cases, what you said is even better!
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#18 leeveeu
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[QUOTE="leeveeu"]Reabilitate this: BrainScramble05
Wow. Anyway, I know the weight of my stance; I don't need examples. Do you know yours?

Yes. Of course I know mine. Some people do not deserve to live. Period. Hence the death penalty. End of story.
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#19 BrainScramble05
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[QUOTE="BrainScramble05"][QUOTE="fastesttruck"]I support it. Really why let them rot in jail? Kill em off and you have one less person to feed and take care of in the slammer. Don't we kill animals that attack humans? Cedmln
As far as I know, only if they're diseased. Why kill the unfortunate?

Because they are a high risk to humanity. We have to get rid of the bad . Some things simply aren't curable right now.

The death penalty just doesn't seem very efficient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.
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I don't agree with the death penalty, either. I support years and years of mental torture, an endlessly ringing phone, an endlessly dripping tap, etc. They'll opt for the death penalty ;)_IronManDude_
WHat makes you think they won't come out and make people regret what they did to them? Think of it has the school shootings where kids are picked on for a long time, then get revenge. Don't torture teh criminals. JUst get rid of the ones of the highest crimes.
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[QUOTE="TheFragcat"]You have a good point but i say if you take someones life on purpose, for no reason then yours should be taken. An eye for an eye as they say.mad80boy

if you kill someone for murdering another person doesn't that make you to some degree as bad as them?

Yes it would make you as bad as them. I just think it should be an eye for an eye. I don't think it's fair that murderers are still able to live a life after they've just intentionally killed off someone elses life. Even though you've killed someone by the death penalty and you'd be a murderer, do you not think you'll be doing the world a favour. But then again i do believe in second chances so at moment i'm not too sure.
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#22 BrainScramble05
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[QUOTE="TheFragcat"][QUOTE="mad80boy"]

You have a good point but i say if you take someones life on purpose, for no reason then yours should be taken. An eye for an eye as they say.TheFragcat

if you kill someone for murdering another person doesn't that make you to some degree as bad as them?

Yes it would make you as bad as them. I just think it should be an eye for an eye. I don't think it's fair that murderers are still able to live a life after they've just intentionally killed off someone elses life. Even though you've killed someone by the death penalty and you'd be a murderer, do you not think you'll be doing the world a favour. But then again i do believe in second chances so at moment i'm not too sure.

I won't argue if it's fair or not - that's up to anyone to decide. I never imagined a God to be fair either. If He existed, I'd expect him to be kind.
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="BrainScramble05"] As far as I know, only if they're diseased. Why kill the unfortunate?BrainScramble05
Because they are a high risk to humanity. We have to get rid of the bad . Some things simply aren't curable right now.

The death penalty just doesn't seem very effiecient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.

ONce you kill one person, then you know how to kill another person. NEVER give these people a chance. Some of them simply won't stop. I feel better knowing they don't have the chance to do it again.
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="BrainScramble05"] As far as I know, only if they're diseased. Why kill the unfortunate?BrainScramble05
Because they are a high risk to humanity. We have to get rid of the bad . Some things simply aren't curable right now.

The death penalty just doesn't seem very effiecient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.

Some people just don't deserve to live, like this one guy (don't know his story quite well) called the iceman. Hitman for the mob, if i recall, killed around 200 people and once he shot a random person in the head with crossbow to see if it would work. Rehabilitation and "another chance" is going to work for people like this? I
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#25 Cedmln
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The death penalty is considered to be the ultimate denial of human rights.mad80boy

FALSE. If you commit a crime. You lose a certain right and will pay for it. If we allowed everyone the freedom to do anything they wish. This world would be in ruins.

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[QUOTE="BrainScramble05"][QUOTE="Cedmln"] Because they are a high risk to humanity. We have to get rid of the bad . Some things simply aren't curable right now. Cedmln
The death penalty just doesn't seem very effiecient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.

ONce you kill one person, then you know how to kill another person. NEVER give these people a chance. Some of them simply won't stop. I feel better knowing they don't have the chance to do it again.

There are lots of people who aren't criminals that know how to kill. I guess the only downside of the death penalty is that the criminals have to be killed themselves by someone. Or is it, by everyone? Everyone can kill.
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#27 clembo1990
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No good ever came of a person's death. Murder is murder, whether it's punishment or social control or genocide.
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[QUOTE="BrainScramble05"][QUOTE="Cedmln"] Because they are a high risk to humanity. We have to get rid of the bad . Some things simply aren't curable right now. MisterBombastic
The death penalty just doesn't seem very effiecient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.

Some people just don't deserve to live, like this one guy (don't know his story quite well) called the iceman. Hitman for the mob, if i recall, killed around 200 people and once he shot a random person in the head with crossbow to see if it would work. Rehabilitation and "another chance" is going to work for people like this? I

Maybe not. We remove every chance of knowing by killing him. I wonder, do we even want to know if he can turn into a better person? When it comes to the death penalty, I don't ask myself "Does that person deserve another chance?", but "Should I give that person another chance?"

He, he... I'd imagine a completely fair world would be fairly cruel.

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[QUOTE="MisterBombastic"][QUOTE="BrainScramble05"] The death penalty just doesn't seem very effiecient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.BrainScramble05
Some people just don't deserve to live, like this one guy (don't know his story quite well) called the iceman. Hitman for the mob, if i recall, killed around 200 people and once he shot a random person in the head with crossbow to see if it would work. Rehabilitation and "another chance" is going to work for people like this? I

Maybe not. We remove every chance of knowing by killing him. I wonder, do we even want to know if he can turn into a better person?

Yes, he can turn into a better person, he could turn into a kindergarden teacher and grow flowers in the back yard. Seriously now, a person that kills over 200 rights loses this privilege, of a future.
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[QUOTE="_IronManDude_"]I don't agree with the death penalty, either. I support years and years of mental torture, an endlessly ringing phone, an endlessly dripping tap, etc. They'll opt for the death penalty ;)Cedmln
WHat makes you think they won't come out and make people regret what they did to them? Think of it has the school shootings where kids are picked on for a long time, then get revenge. Don't torture teh criminals. JUst get rid of the ones of the highest crimes.

Not literally "torturing" them. Death is acceptable for no man, not killer nor victim.
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#31 mad80boy
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[QUOTE="mad80boy"] The death penalty is considered to be the ultimate denial of human rights.Cedmln

FALSE. If you commit a crime. You lose a certain right and will pay for it. If we allowed everyone the freedom to do anything they wish. This world would be in ruins.

It violates the right to life beacuse it is the ultimate cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment. There can never be any justification for torture or for cruel treatment.

BTW I study Law

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Shouldn't the law be focusing on rehabilitating criminals instead? C'mon, it's barbaric. Is it wise to teach people not to kill... by killing them? I can't speak with raw facts on my side, but I don't think that the capital punishment lowers crime rates in general. It's a society's simplistic way of correcting its own problems, I say! BrainScramble05
ehhh......dont think their teaching them not to kill,,,,,its punishing them for killing. and there aint no problem in my view as long as the criminals crime was extreme enough anyway the world today is overpopulated so anything that can be done to stem this is for the better!!!
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#33 BrainScramble05
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[QUOTE="BrainScramble05"][QUOTE="MisterBombastic"] Some people just don't deserve to live, like this one guy (don't know his story quite well) called the iceman. Hitman for the mob, if i recall, killed around 200 people and once he shot a random person in the head with crossbow to see if it would work. Rehabilitation and "another chance" is going to work for people like this? Ileeveeu
Maybe not. We remove every chance of knowing by killing him. I wonder, do we even want to know if he can turn into a better person?

Yes, he can turn into a better person, he could turn into a kindergarden teacher and grow flowers in the back yard. Seriously now, a person that kills over 200 rights loses this privilege, of a future.

He doesn't lose it; we take it from him.
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#34 leeveeu
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[QUOTE="leeveeu"][QUOTE="BrainScramble05"] Maybe not. We remove every chance of knowing by killing him. I wonder, do we even want to know if he can turn into a better person? BrainScramble05
Yes, he can turn into a better person, he could turn into a kindergarden teacher and grow flowers in the back yard. Seriously now, a person that kills over 200 rights loses this privilege, of a future.

He doesn't lose it; we take it from him.

No, he loses it. With every right a human being has, also comes a responsability. Break the responasbility, lose the rights. The bigger the offence, the bigger the right lost. It's simple logic. Here, have this example: if a guy is caught stealing some jewels, he will go to jail. Following your logic, we should not bring him to jail, because we take his liberty right away? :lol:
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[QUOTE="BrainScramble05"][QUOTE="leeveeu"] Yes, he can turn into a better person, he could turn into a kindergarden teacher and grow flowers in the back yard. Seriously now, a person that kills over 200 rights loses this privilege, of a future.leeveeu
He doesn't lose it; we take it from him.

No, he loses it. With every right a human being has, also comes a responsability. Break the responasbility, lose the rights. The bigger the offence, the bigger the right lost. It's simple logic. Here, have this example: if a guy is caught stolen some jewels, he will go to jail. Following your logic, we should not bring him to jail, because we take his liberty right away? :lol:

Yes. It's just different wording - I was merely trying to be more specific. He 'loses' his liberty because we take it away from him.

Oh, and I have not specified what "we should not" do when it comes to imprisoning someone.

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#36 leeveeu
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[QUOTE="leeveeu"][QUOTE="BrainScramble05"] He doesn't lose it; we take it from him.BrainScramble05
No, he loses it. With every right a human being has, also comes a responsability. Break the responasbility, lose the rights. The bigger the offence, the bigger the right lost. It's simple logic. Here, have this example: if a guy is caught stolen some jewels, he will go to jail. Following your logic, we should not bring him to jail, because we take his liberty right away? :lol:

Yes. It's just different wording - I was merely trying to be more specific. He 'loses' his liberty because we take it away from him.

No, HE takes it away from HIMSELF. Am I to understand that you support anarchy? Where criminals, rapists, child molesters can decide for themselves to be punished after a crime?
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#37 BrainScramble05
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[QUOTE="BrainScramble05"][QUOTE="leeveeu"] No, he loses it. With every right a human being has, also comes a responsability. Break the responasbility, lose the rights. The bigger the offence, the bigger the right lost. It's simple logic. Here, have this example: if a guy is caught stolen some jewels, he will go to jail. Following your logic, we should not bring him to jail, because we take his liberty right away? :lol:leeveeu
Yes. It's just different wording - I was merely trying to be more specific. He 'loses' his liberty because we take it away from him.

No, HE takes it away from HIMSELF. Am I to understand that you support anarchy? Where criminals, rapists, child molesters can decide for themselves to be punished after a crime?

No. A man cannot unwillingly take a liberty from himself.

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You have a good point but i say if you take someones life on purpose, for no reason then yours should be taken. An eye for an eye as they say.TheFragcat
I agree. However, it's kind of pointless when one serial killer gets the death penalty for the deaths of hundreds... I would rather let them suffer in jail, but then.. what do they have to lose? I suggest throwing them into our war zones and letting them be extra infantry.
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#39 Cedmln
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="BrainScramble05"] The death penalty just doesn't seem very effiecient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.BrainScramble05
ONce you kill one person, then you know how to kill another person. NEVER give these people a chance. Some of them simply won't stop. I feel better knowing they don't have the chance to do it again.

There are lots of people who aren't criminals that know how to kill. I guess the only downside of the death penalty is that the criminals have to be killed themselves by someone. Or is it, by everyone? Everyone can kill.

THats not what i mean't. :roll:
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="BrainScramble05"] As far as I know, only if they're diseased. Why kill the unfortunate?BrainScramble05
Because they are a high risk to humanity. We have to get rid of the bad . Some things simply aren't curable right now.

The death penalty just doesn't seem very efficient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.

So you care more about the criminal than the victim? You care more about the killer than the person he killed? Why should someone who killed someone in cold blood be given a second chance when the person he killed will never be given another chance? That doesn't make any sense at all. Life in prison without parole or death, there is no option C.
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#41 BrainScramble05
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[QUOTE="BrainScramble05"][QUOTE="Cedmln"] ONce you kill one person, then you know how to kill another person. NEVER give these people a chance. Some of them simply won't stop. I feel better knowing they don't have the chance to do it again.Cedmln
There are lots of people who aren't criminals that know how to kill. I guess the only downside of the death penalty is that the criminals have to be killed themselves by someone. Or is it, by everyone? Everyone can kill.

THats not what i mean't. :roll:

What is it then? Why not give them a chance? Because they killed? If you don't want to give them their full rights back, at least let them live in prison. No reason to kill your prisoner.
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#42 Cedmln
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Man the way some of you people think, the world would come down to shambles. And the first ones to go would be you, while us smart ones would take action.
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#43 BrainScramble05
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[QUOTE="BrainScramble05"][QUOTE="Cedmln"] Because they are a high risk to humanity. We have to get rid of the bad . Some things simply aren't curable right now. MoonMarvel
The death penalty just doesn't seem very efficient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.

So you care more about the criminal than the victim? You care more about the killer than the person he killed? Why should someone who killed someone in cold blood be given a second chance when the person he killed will never be given another chance? That doesn't make any sense at all. Life in prison without parole or death, there is no option C.

Life in prison is a chance at life still. As I've said, people should strive to be more than fair.

Maybe it's hard for some to believe, but there are nations in which people can get along fine without the need of a death penalty.

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#44 BrainScramble05
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Man the way some of you people think, the world would come down to shambles. And the first ones to go would be you, while us smart ones would take action.Cedmln
Why is killing a prisoner smarter than letting him live in captivity?
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#45 shemrom
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Now i know you guys think killing is is wrong, and yes i think so ture.

But a factor has come in, our prisons are filling up and running out of room. It very hard to change a person after what they done, but then again, why fix the broken when you can teach and protect the kids to not do the things the criminals do.

With more voliant crimes higher then ever, and since the prisons can't hold much more before being over run. Shouldn't we start Executing the most violent and insane criminals more offon that-is determine unsuitable to return back to the out side? Putting people in jail for life is a long time for one person, and nothing comes out of it beside having that spot filled for 50 years +,

I know you guys going to bash me for this, but this is after Off topic after all and this is my own opion.

sorry for spelling

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#46 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="BrainScramble05"] The death penalty just doesn't seem very efficient either. They can't be a risk for humanity if they're locked up. I'd feel better if they'd be given a chance.BrainScramble05
So you care more about the criminal than the victim? You care more about the killer than the person he killed? Why should someone who killed someone in cold blood be given a second chance when the person he killed will never be given another chance? That doesn't make any sense at all. Life in prison without parole or death, there is no option C.

Life in prison is a chance at life still. As I've said, people should strive to be more than fair.

I strive for Justice and Justice is fair. And you didn't anwser my questions.
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#47 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="shemrom"]

Now i know you guys think killing is is wrong, and yes i think so ture.

But a factor has come in, our prisons are filling up and running out of room. It very hard to change a person after what they done, but then again, why fix the broken when you can teach and protect the kids to not do the things the criminals do.

With more voliant crimes higher then ever, and since the prisons can't hold much more before being over run. Shouldn't we start Executing the most violent and insane criminals more offon that-is determine unsuitable to return back to the out side? Putting people in jail for life is a long time for one person, and nothing comes out of it beside having that spot filled for 50 years +,

I know you guys going to bash me for this, but this is after Off topic after all and this is my own opion.

sorry for spelling

Our jails are crowed because we throw people in jail for non-violent crimes. You can lower this by not throwing people in jail everytime they bat an eyelash.
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#48 TheFragcat
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[QUOTE="TheFragcat"]You have a good point but i say if you take someones life on purpose, for no reason then yours should be taken. An eye for an eye as they say.WestSideAzn
I agree. However, it's kind of pointless when one serial killer gets the death penalty for the deaths of hundreds... I would rather let them suffer in jail, but then.. what do they have to lose? I suggest throwing them into our war zones and letting them be extra infantry.

Giving a murderer the chance to fight in as infantry would be a bad idea. Once they're given a weapon, i'm pretty sure they'll use it to escape. They would have to be watched very closly by other people in the infantry which they don't need whilst fighting an enemy. It would be a good idea to send them into military training. I'm sure that could change alot of people.
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Jail doesn't work, torture is deplorable to most and rehabilitation seems too lenient, but i don't think the death penalty is fine and dandy being that thousand of innocent people get sent to jail thanks to our flawed system. so yeah it's not about just agreeing or disagreeing there's a bigger problem that needs to be addressed and that is to stop people from doing the crime in the first place.
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#50 shemrom
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="shemrom"]

Now i know you guys think killing is is wrong, and yes i think so ture.

But a factor has come in, our prisons are filling up and running out of room. It very hard to change a person after what they done, but then again, why fix the broken when you can teach and protect the kids to not do the things the criminals do.

With more voliant crimes higher then ever, and since the prisons can't hold much more before being over run. Shouldn't we start Executing the most violent and insane criminals more offon that-is determine unsuitable to return back to the out side? Putting people in jail for life is a long time for one person, and nothing comes out of it beside having that spot filled for 50 years +,

I know you guys going to bash me for this, but this is after Off topic after all and this is my own opion.

sorry for spelling

Our jails are crowed because we throw people in jail for non-violent crimes. You can lower this by not throwing people in jail everytime they bat an eyelash.

never less, they are still over flowing. something must be done about this, Maybe build more prisons. That would create some jobs and might improve the economy a little bit. hehe