Worst music elitists?

on the interwebz, the new-age metalheads seem to be the worst. in real life, it's the rappers/hip-hop junkies. so many times, I've had one come up to me ask me what I'm listeing to (usually while I'm wearing an Iron Maiden T-Shirt. hmm, what do you think I'm listening to?) and when I tell 'em I get the usual, what? what is that crap? blah blah blah. serves me right for going to a college in central Florida with a music program.

Is it difficult to say I like Iron Maiden dude....can you recommend some similar bands?

LJS9502_basic

metal heads no question.

they say rap isn't music, yet they praise guys growling like pigs. LMFAO

bokiloki

You sir have just made my day. That post made me spit out the juice i was drinking :lol:

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metal heads no question.

they say rap isn't music, yet they praise guys growling like pigs. LMFAO

deathtarget04

You sir have just made my day. That post made me spit out the juice i was drinking :lol:

From what I see, Classic Rock and Metal fans. Then again, a lot of people on this forum are dicks.

[QUOTE="bokiloki"]

metal heads no question.

they say rap isn't music, yet they praise guys growling like pigs. LMFAO

deathtarget04

You sir have just made my day. That post made me spit out the juice i was drinking :lol:

Not on the internet or any impersonal space. Though that's what I do when I ask for recommendations from friends in person since it's a lot easier to show them the sound that I like. I haven't found a genre that I like every band in. :P

The genre and it's fans are so widespread and recommendations are really one of the few major ways you'll be finding new music. You certainly won't be using iTunes or MTV like you would be with a lot of other genres. I mean you can use a forum or some place on the internet, and point out things like "oh, I really like the drumming at 0:53, do you know of something similar?," but that gets tedious and difficult, Online it's much easier to categorize things by their genre (and yes, I do think some of the subgenres are ridiculous; we can do without sludge, funeral, brutal, psychedelic, and numerous others). There's a few that are obviously needed (as is the case with any genre of music), and a few of those subgenres that are so well-established that lumping them in with others would be difficult, but otherwise I would say it's such an oversaturated genre as it is it'd be difficult to begin with.

Saturos3091

When I started searching music out on the forum I just followed suggestions as to similar bands and not by genres. And yes....while I can understand some subgenres.....when there are too many they become meaningless.

LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="bokiloki"]

metal heads no question.

they say rap isn't music, yet they praise guys growling like pigs. LMFAO

LJS9502_basic

You sir have just made my day. That post made me spit out the juice i was drinking :lol:

Except for the fact that it's a pretty blatant (and incorrect) generalization... I've met almost no metalheads who think rap isn't music... sure, a lot don't like it, but that's very different. ;)

I'm pretty sure it's classical. They will consistently go out of their way to try and proove that their music is the best with trivial facts and open ended arguments. Most metalheads or rap fans will just say "u suck ___ is the best" and go and listen to their music with no questions asked.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

You sir have just made my day. That post made me spit out the juice i was drinking :lol:

chessmaster1989

Except for the fact that it's a pretty blatant (and incorrect) generalization... I've met almost no metalheads who think rap isn't music... sure, a lot don't like it, but that's very different. ;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

You sir have just made my day. That post made me spit out the juice i was drinking :lol:

chessmaster1989

Except for the fact that it's a pretty blatant (and incorrect) generalization... I've met almost no metalheads who think rap isn't music... sure, a lot don't like it, but that's very different. ;)

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That was indeed a great answer.....:lol:LJS9502_basic

Except for the fact that it's a pretty blatant (and incorrect) generalization... I've met almost no metalheads who think rap isn't music... sure, a lot don't like it, but that's very different. ;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Except for the fact that it's a pretty blatant (and incorrect) generalization... I've met almost no metalheads who think rap isn't music... sure, a lot don't like it, but that's very different. ;)

LODisapproval

[QUOTE="LODisapproval"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I've seen the rap vs rock threads so I've actually seen otherwise..;)LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="LODisapproval"]Hah. Quite the hypocrisy we're seeing here from someone who's usually the first to whine about generalisations.LODisapproval

Metalheads no contest.Dystopian-X

[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]Metalheads no contest.Wozmcfc

Seems like everyone has bad experiences with metalheads...

cool.

[QUOTE="LODisapproval"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Ah and you were who before? Because you can't be new and telling me about myself. Nonetheless, that wasn't a generalization. I said I'd have it happen and I have. And point of fact no where did I say all metal heads state such. I laughed at the comment because it was funny. So the word generalization does not apply.

LJS9502_basic

You've had a neverending supply of trolls lately...

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You've had a neverending supply of trolls lately...

Guppy507

[QUOTE="LODisapproval"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Ah and you were who before? Because you can't be new and telling me about myself. Nonetheless, that wasn't a generalization. I said I'd have it happen and I have. And point of fact no where did I say all metal heads state such. I laughed at the comment because it was funny. So the word generalization does not apply.

LJS9502_basic

Hah. Quite the hypocrisy we're seeing here from someone who's usually the first to whine about generalisations.LODisapproval

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="LODisapproval"]You attempted to argue with chessmaster when he complained about it being a generalisation, which suggests that you think he was wrong on that count. And, uh, as for this not being my main account - no ****, Sherlock.Guppy507

You've had a neverending supply of trolls lately...

Me me me me me! I know the answer!

It MUST be Deity_Slapper!!!

:lol: Troll number 2 appears! I wonder if they're the same person. :P

:lol: Troll number 2 appears! I wonder if they're the same person. :P

Guppy507

:lol: Troll number 2 appears! I wonder if they're the same person. :P

Guppy507

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Guppy507

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:lol: number 2 appears! I wonder if they're the same person. :P

LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

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LODisapproval

Rap definitely. maybe that's just from the standpoint that I find rap to be soulless and talentless dreck however.

Metalheads easily, and I'M a huge metalhead. I just got back from reading the myspace metal forums and Jesus Christ, why oh why did I ever read that garbage. If you wanna read something really horrible, search Cliff Burton, Dimebag Darrell, or Chuck Schuldiner on those boards. Or you know what better yet don't because once you do a piece of your humanity might die inside.

Rap definitely. maybe that's just from the standpoint that I find rap to be soulless and talentless dreck however.

DarthSatan

I'm confused. How does that make us rap fans elitists?

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Rap definitely. maybe that's just from the standpoint that I find rap to be soulless and talentless dreck however.

effena

I'm confused. How does that make us rap fans elitists?

[QUOTE="DarthSatan"]

Rap definitely. maybe that's just from the standpoint that I find rap to be soulless and talentless dreck however.

effena

I'm confused. How does that make us rap fans elitists?

Mostly that I find that rap fans in general have the opinion that rap is the only music with any artistic value these days. For myself, I don't entirely dislike rap, I just find that these days it's more about posturing, image, and "street cred" than the music.

[QUOTE="DarthSatan"]

Rap definitely. maybe that's just from the standpoint that I find rap to be soulless and talentless dreck however.

effena

I'm confused. How does that make us rap fans elitists?

Hardcore metalheads are the worst music fans on the earth right next to ICP fans to meToriko42

How many "metalheads" did you exactly meet?

Its different on the internet than meeting someone in person at times...

metalheads

I'd say classical just because, simply put, they probably know more about theory :P

Uneducated elitists. It doesn't matter what the genre is - easily the most annoying person you can encounter in a music debate is the loud-mouthed one who thinks he knows a great deal about music but actually knows very little. I have no problem whatsoever with well informed elitism. If you have taken the time to study music extensively and hone your tastes, by all means point out the flawed conceptions other people have about music, and be proud of your taste, even if it turns out to be quite narrow. You deserve it for all your hard work.

Frankly, though, it's the anti-elitists who bother me the most. Especially the "politically correct" anti-elitists who believe such things as "all compositions are of equal quality" and "there is no piece of music which is better written than another as long as some people like it." Or "all music is equally complex." These people irritate me the most because they are, almost without exception, totally oblivious to the fact that their anti-elitist position is just another form of elitism - believing that they are superior because they like many genres, and failing to realize that in most cases, the "many genres" to which they are open are actually very similiar on a fundamental musical level.

I'd go with Classical fans, because some times they fail to acknoledge music was made after a certain century :/

[QUOTE="LODisapproval"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I've thought so since they started posting and agreeing with each other.

majoras_wrath

Uneducated elitists. It doesn't matter what the genre is - easily the most annoying person you can encounter in a music debate is the loud-mouthed one who thinks he knows a great deal about music but actually knows very little. I have no problem whatsoever with well informed elitism. If you have taken the time to study music extensively and hone your tastes, by all means point out the flawed conceptions other people have about music, and be proud of your taste, even if it turns out to be quite narrow. You deserve it for all your hard work.

Frankly, though, it's the anti-elitists who bother me the most. Especially the "politically correct" anti-elitists who believe such things as "all compositions are of equal quality" and "there is no piece of music which is better written than another as long as some people like it." Or "all music is equally complex." These people irritate me the most because they are, almost without exception, totally oblivious to the fact that their anti-elitist position is just another form of elitism - believing that they are superior because they like many genres, and failing to realize that in most cases, the "many genres" to which they are open are actually very similiar on a fundamental musical level.

pianist

+1 to everything you said

i find i'm an elitist in a musical sense, but thats because i spent the last 15 years studying music and it's composition. so when i hear the same melody and beat in a rap song for 3 minutes straight i have problems accepting that as a "good" piece of music

[QUOTE="DarthSatan"]

Rap definitely. maybe that's just from the standpoint that I find rap to be soulless and talentless dreck however.

effena

I'm confused. How does that make us rap fans elitists?