would you consider a woman who doesn't want kids to be "selfish?"

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#1 RPGAddict4Ever
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yes? no? thoughts?

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#2 lostrib
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#3 deeliman
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Why would I?

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#4 RPGAddict4Ever
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the reason for the question is because in class today we were discussing gender roles. professor asked the class if we consider men who don't want children to be selfish, which everyone replied with no. when asked the same question but with women some people were saying that the woman was being selfish wtf?

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#5 lostrib
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the reason for the question is because in class today we were discussing gender roles. professor asked the class if we consider men who don't want children to be selfish, which everyone replied with no. when asked the same question but with women some people were saying that the woman was being selfish wtf?

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Well some people are stupid

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#6 deeliman
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the reason for the question is because in class today we were discussing gender roles. professor asked the class if we consider men who don't want children to be selfish, which everyone replied with no. when asked the same question but with women some people were saying that the woman was being selfish wtf?

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Why should a women be required to have children?
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#7 lostrib
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[QUOTE="RPGAddict4Ever"]

the reason for the question is because in class today we were discussing gender roles. professor asked the class if we consider men who don't want children to be selfish, which everyone replied with no. when asked the same question but with women some people were saying that the woman was being selfish wtf?

deeliman

Why should a women be required to have children?

so we can populate Mars

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#8 Pirate700
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Not at all. It may affect whether or not I would want to marry her though.

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#9 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="RPGAddict4Ever"]

the reason for the question is because in class today we were discussing gender roles. professor asked the class if we consider men who don't want children to be selfish, which everyone replied with no. when asked the same question but with women some people were saying that the woman was being selfish wtf?

lostrib

Why should a women be required to have children?

so we can populate Mars

can't we just send the women instead? sounds easier to me
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#10 XilePrincess
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No. If you don't want kids, you don't want kids. There are already too many kids in this world with parents who either don't want them or don't have the means to care for them properly, why would you try and guilt someone who is not interested in children into having some by deeming her selfish if she doesn't want them? It's 2013, everyone does not need to procreate to keep the human race going anymore.
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#11 HoolaHoopMan
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No, that's completely absurd.
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#12 ad1x2
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No I don't think it is selfish. In my opinion I would rather see a woman be honest and refuse to have children than to do it because it is the "normal" thing to do only to end up being the next Susan Smith or Andrea Yates.
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#13 Makhaidos
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Why the hell would I? Nobody but her has the right to make such a decision for her.
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#14 Niff_T
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Nope. Kinda similar to the way I don't find people who consider suicide to be selfish.

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#16 LJS9502_basic
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#17 dagreenfish
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No. I can only think of one incredible unlikely scenario were it would be: and that's if the human race would end if she didn't procreate. Other than that, thinking a woman selfish for not wanting kids is just stupid.

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#18 Diablo-B
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Not to mention the fact that for some people its best for everyone that they NOT bring kids into this world because they cant handle the responsibility.
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#20 Wolfetan
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No, that's completely absurd. HoolaHoopMan
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#21 AutoPilotOn
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No but I wouldn't want a relationship with her as I want at least one child.
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#23 deeliman
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[QUOTE="Niff_T"]

Nope. Kinda similar to the way I don't find people who consider suicide to be selfish.

Ackad
If it's regarding a health condition, I personally believe assisted suicide is not bad, but when it's about depression, I believe it's a coward's way out.

Mercy killings FTW
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#24 Silverbond
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Sure

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#25 deeliman
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Sure

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#26 Meinhard1
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You could argue that people who don't want to have kids, regardless of gender, may tend to be more self-oriented. But there are of course"selfish" reasons to want children and "selfless" reasons to forgo having children. Some people with traditional worldviews view childbearing as a key part of womanhood. These are the sorts of people who may answer yes to TC's question.
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#27 Meinhard1
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[QUOTE="Niff_T"]

Nope. Kinda similar to the way I don't find people who consider suicide to be selfish.

Ackad
If it's regarding a health condition, I personally believe assisted suicide is not bad, but when it's about depression, I believe it's a coward's way out.

Thing is, if you've ever been really depressed (like not just "down," but depressed) it's difficult to feel much of anything -- bravery, cowardice, love for yourself or others. You feel numb and empty.
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:lol: Yes, because the only reason women are here are to bear the sons of men.
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#30 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Sure

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#31 MakeMeaSammitch
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Absolutely. Sad and lonely too.

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#32 GazaAli
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No, as long as she made it clear to him before getting married that she does not want kids. Though in general, I'm not a fond of a woman who does not want to ever have kids.
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#33 ghoklebutter
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Whether a person is selfish for not wanting kids depends entirely on that person's reason for wanting to be child-free, but in any case, gender has no bearing on the selfishness of not wanting kids. So the answer is no.
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the reason for the question is because in class today we were discussing gender roles. professor asked the class if we consider men who don't want children to be selfish, which everyone replied with no. when asked the same question but with women some people were saying that the woman was being selfish wtf?

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Congrats. Stay away from those idiots.
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#36 AmazonTreeBoa
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I don't even wee why you would consider her selfish.
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#38 Mikey132
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What are the reasons that the women doesn't want kids?

I'm a man that doesn't want any because I think it rather cruel to force a human life to endure this ******* mess of a world

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#39 AmazonTreeBoa
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the reason for the question is because in class today we were discussing gender roles. professor asked the class if we consider men who don't want children to be selfish, which everyone replied with no. when asked the same question but with women some people were saying that the woman was being selfish wtf?

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Those people who answered yes are the type of idiots you avoid.
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#40 The_Lipscomb
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No. In fact, not having a kid when not wanting one, is very admirable.. Not everyone needs kids.

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#41 The_Lipscomb
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[QUOTE="RPGAddict4Ever"]

the reason for the question is because in class today we were discussing gender roles. professor asked the class if we consider men who don't want children to be selfish, which everyone replied with no. when asked the same question but with women some people were saying that the woman was being selfish wtf?

AmazonTreeBoa
Those people who answered yes are the type of idiots you avoid.

Kind of hard to avoid when they pretty much are the majority of the population.
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#43 BossPerson
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Not at all. It may affect whether or not I would want to marry her though.

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#44 Ugalde-
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I dont want kids so, no.
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#45 Ugalde-
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"][QUOTE="Ackad"] If it's regarding a health condition, I personally believe assisted suicide is not bad, but when it's about depression, I believe it's a coward's way out. Ackad

Thing is, if you've ever been really depressed (like not just "down," but depressed) it's difficult to feel much of anything -- bravery, cowardice, love for yourself or others. You feel numb and empty.

Well I felt a bit more than that. I've dealt with severe depression for 5 years. It sucks and I felt like I was getting nowhere in life, but like I said, suicide is a coward's way out. Things can change through time; so why end it on a quick note?

Probably because some people don't think of it like you.
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#47 Laihendi
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If you have any conception of what you do and do not want, then you are selfish and there is nothing wrong with that.
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#48 Dogswithguns
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What kind of women that don't want kids.. ?!
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#50 MakeMeaSammitch
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Anybody else think that in the long term people are going to regret not having kids and be really depressed by it. In psycholgogy happiness in late life is determined by whether you feel like you've accomplished something. Let's be honest, outside of family the vast majority of people do not.

I guess it could be argued that they're selfish because they're giving up happiness later on for what they perceive as making them more happy in the present.