Would you vote for an openly g@y president?

[QUOTE="Komodog"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="Komodog"]

I'm assuming that all the people who wouldn't are straight?

How would you all feel if every gay man decided not to vote for a straight president? You ever think about that? Get off your religious high horses and learn to accept the fact that if his or her policies are sound, then they should deserve your vote, regardless of sexual orientation.

jlh47

well considering the gay population makes up about %1-3 of the population i'm not how sure that would affect anything...

hey you know what? you're right, let's just shunt ALL minorities into a hole and pretend that their opinions are meaningless and worth about as much as a grubby penny you find underneath a bus seat attached to a discarded piece of chewing gum!

It's the right attitude to take folks!

i'm just saying it won't make much of a difference...

Might not make much of a difference, but it would be definately be unfair and wrong to vote for a president based on his or her sexual orientation.

[QUOTE="jlh47"]

correct.

The_Ish

Nope. You are completely wrong, and judging your posting history, you know very little about AIDs, or STDs in general. AIDs did not come from a human who had sex with a monkey.

prove it.

[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="Komodog"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="Komodog"]

I'm assuming that all the people who wouldn't are straight?

How would you all feel if every gay man decided not to vote for a straight president? You ever think about that? Get off your religious high horses and learn to accept the fact that if his or her policies are sound, then they should deserve your vote, regardless of sexual orientation.

Komodog

well considering the gay population makes up about %1-3 of the population i'm not how sure that would affect anything...

hey you know what? you're right, let's just shunt ALL minorities into a hole and pretend that their opinions are meaningless and worth about as much as a grubby penny you find underneath a bus seat attached to a discarded piece of chewing gum!

It's the right attitude to take folks!

i'm just saying it won't make much of a difference...

yeah.... I'm pretty sure that if every homosexual in the whole of the USA decided not to vote because the candidates were straight, that would be big news, and something WOULD happen or change.

at least %20 of the population doesn't vote. who cares if it's 1-3 percent more...

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

correct.

jlh47

Nope. You are completely wrong, and judging your posting history, you know very little about AIDs, or STDs in general. AIDs did not come from a human who had sex with a monkey.

prove it.

Read this.

I should be asking you to prove it, since you made the ignorant claim. But then again, you wouldn't find any evidence to support your claim since it isn't true at all.

[QUOTE="Komodog"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="Komodog"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="Komodog"]

I'm assuming that all the people who wouldn't are straight?

How would you all feel if every gay man decided not to vote for a straight president? You ever think about that? Get off your religious high horses and learn to accept the fact that if his or her policies are sound, then they should deserve your vote, regardless of sexual orientation.

jlh47

well considering the gay population makes up about %1-3 of the population i'm not how sure that would affect anything...

hey you know what? you're right, let's just shunt ALL minorities into a hole and pretend that their opinions are meaningless and worth about as much as a grubby penny you find underneath a bus seat attached to a discarded piece of chewing gum!

It's the right attitude to take folks!

i'm just saying it won't make much of a difference...

yeah.... I'm pretty sure that if every homosexual in the whole of the USA decided not to vote because the candidates were straight, that would be big news, and something WOULD happen or change.

at least %20 of the population doesn't vote. who cares if it's 1-3 percent more...

because it would be the entirety of a particular demographic. If you can't see why that would be a hugely significant event, then there's no point in me arguing my point any further.

[QUOTE="nohabs"]I probably wouldn't. Mainly because of the controversy that would always be there. We need a strong president with minimal distractions.The_Ish

There are more women than there are homosexual men, so your argument doesn't make sense.

Talk about not making sense. please explain your reply

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="nohabs"]I probably wouldn't. Mainly because of the controversy that would always be there. We need a strong president with minimal distractions.nohabs

There are more women than there are homosexual men, so your argument doesn't make sense.

Talk about not making sense. please explain your reply

Bolded.

I am assuming you wouldn't vote for a gay president because he/she is more likely to **** with other politicians, or make love triangles or be "distracted" by other politicians because he/she might find them more attractive?

Because if that's your reasoning, then it would be an ironic one.

In continuation of my previous thread, I would like to know the thoughts and opinions of electing an openly gay president.MotherSuperior

i would be willing to vote for one yes

[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

correct.

The_Ish

Nope. You are completely wrong, and judging your posting history, you know very little about AIDs, or STDs in general. AIDs did not come from a human who had sex with a monkey.

prove it.

Read this.

I should be asking you to prove it, since you made the ignorant claim. But then again, you wouldn't find any evidence to support your claim since it isn't true at all.

the key word in that article: MAY...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12966623/

there's from a reliable news source. facts.

[QUOTE="nohabs"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="nohabs"]I probably wouldn't. Mainly because of the controversy that would always be there. We need a strong president with minimal distractions.The_Ish

There are more women than there are homosexual men, so your argument doesn't make sense.

Talk about not making sense. please explain your reply

Bolded.

I am assuming you wouldn't vote for a gay president because he/she is more likely to **** with other politicians, or make love triangles or be "distracted" by other politicians because he/she might find them more attractive?

Because if that's your reasoning, then it would be an ironic one.

OK I see what you meant. I had no thought of a sexual distraction. I was referring to people continually bringing up the gay issue whenever there was a dispute or an unpopular decisionmade by a gay president.

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

correct.

jlh47

Nope. You are completely wrong, and judging your posting history, you know very little about AIDs, or STDs in general. AIDs did not come from a human who had sex with a monkey.

prove it.

Read this.

I should be asking you to prove it, since you made the ignorant claim. But then again, you wouldn't find any evidence to support your claim since it isn't true at all.

the key word in that article: MAY...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12966623/

there's from a reliable news source. facts.

Yes, facts coming from both articles.

Both of them contradicting your claim; that humans got the virus from bestiality; entirely.

People wouldn't vote for someone because he's gay?

Way to go America, no wonder people think of you the way they do

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="nohabs"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="nohabs"]I probably wouldn't. Mainly because of the controversy that would always be there. We need a strong president with minimal distractions.nohabs

There are more women than there are homosexual men, so your argument doesn't make sense.

Talk about not making sense. please explain your reply

Bolded.

I am assuming you wouldn't vote for a gay president because he/she is more likely to **** with other politicians, or make love triangles or be "distracted" by other politicians because he/she might find them more attractive?

Because if that's your reasoning, then it would be an ironic one.

OK I see what you meant. I had no thought of a sexual distraction. I was referring to people continually bringing up the gay issue whenever there was a dispute or an unpopular decisionmade by a gay president.

I see, but how would that work?

"Let's talk about how to re-organize the FDA to make them more effective."

"But you're gay!"

"...what?"

I just can't see how that might be distracting like that. Perhaps you can explain?

Some of the posts in this thread genuienly defy belief. Are some of you actually saying that you wouldn't vote for a president, regardless of whether or not you agreed with his policies, because of their sexual orientation. Thats amazing.

The best reason given for this is because being gay is "unatural" and "gross". Doesn't that tell you about the level of intelect the people who hold these views have.

The biggest irony of all is that people are calling homosexuality unatural whilst they're typing on a computer (unatural) on the internet (unatural) in a heated home (unatural) whilst wearing clothes (unatural) you probably have a diet of food stuffed with all sorts of artificial preservatives and flavorings...I mean, I could go on and on but all you need to do islook at your lives, it's not exactly like you're at one with nature yourselves is it.

Also, gay people don't wake up one day and say "You know what, I'm going to piss everyone off by becoming "unatural" and becominga **** being attracted to someone of the same sex" It's not a concious decision! The same way that you being attracted to females is not a concious decision! They can't help it.

Their brains are wired differently to yours, thats all, who knows why? Do you think the devil made them that way? Or did God do it to test you?

You've been brainwashed by your upbringing and your societal and cultural norms, can you not see that? In England, people are more tolerant of gay people because there isn't as much shame and stigma attached to it. I can't help thinking that's something to do with the diminishing influence of Christianity over here, but thats a whole other debate.

Someone said before they don't like gay people because they weren't brought up in a **** loving" environment. Well that's evident mate. You are a homophobic bigot,and you were probably brought up by a bigot, or a bunch of bigots who made you feel ashamed whenever you weren't being a big masculine man! And so now you thing being gay is abhorant.

But do you honestly think that there is not one person in your circle of influence that isn't gay Ofcourse there is! But think about it...if I was gay and hung around with people who constantly told me that it was evil to be gay would I wanna come out of the closet? No! Thats probably why we get so much homophobia from 14 year old twerps on Xbox live. Overcompensation.

Oh and by the way, to all the homophobes in here,when you're jerking of toyour favourite lesbians porn tonight, desperatly trying to convince yourself that you're not at all a dirty unatural gay just remember...

You're jerking off to gay porn.

Anyway :)

Rant over for now

OK I see what you meant. I had no thought of a sexual distraction. I was referring to people continually bringing up the gay issue whenever there was a dispute or an unpopular decisionmade by a gay president.

I see, but how would that work?

"Let's talk about how to re-organize the FDA to make them more effective."

"But you're gay!"

"...what?"

I just can't see how that might be distracting like that. Perhaps you can explain?

I'm pretty sure that any explanation would be wasted on you ( no offence meant).

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]In ancient times it was normal for men to be bi-sexual. MotherSuperior

Exactly. Just read up on Ancient Greek sexual preferences. Homosexuality was rampant.

And was it ironic that right when they taught amoral sexual practices, their empire was crushed. Same with the Romans and Babylonians and Assyrians and Nazis.

God, for some annoying reason, my post got posted all likethislike :(

Rubbish!

Abraham Lincoln shared a bed with another man frequently. I guess it shows in his liberal, no-good policies like the Emancipation Proclamation.grarap

abraham lincoln wasn't gay

People wouldn't vote for someone because he's gay?

Way to go America, no wonder people think of you the way they do

kyrieee

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]In ancient times it was normal for men to be bi-sexual. battlefront23

Exactly. Just read up on Ancient Greek sexual preferences. Homosexuality was rampant.

And was it ironic that right when they taught amoral sexual practices, their empire was crushed. Same with the Romans and Babylonians and Assyrians and Nazis.

[QUOTE="grarap"]Abraham Lincoln shared a bed with another man frequently. I guess it shows in his liberal, no-good policies like the Emancipation Proclamation.jlh47

abraham lincoln wasn't gay

QFT. If there is any president that HAD morals it was Abe Lincoln.

[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

correct.

wemhim

Nope. You are completely wrong, and judging your posting history, you know very little about AIDs, or STDs in general. AIDs did not come from a human who had sex with a monkey.

prove it.

People wouldn't vote for someone because he's gay?

Way to go America, no wonder people think of you the way they do

kyrieee

look at the people who have aids.... it's either from sharing needles or people who have a lot of unprotected sex. stds

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="nohabs"]

OK I see what you meant. I had no thought of a sexual distraction. I was referring to people continually bringing up the gay issue whenever there was a dispute or an unpopular decisionmade by a gay president.

nohabs

I see, but how would that work?

"Let's talk about how to re-organize the FDA to make them more effective."

"But you're gay!"

"...what?"

I just can't see how that might be distracting like that. Perhaps you can explain?

I'm pretty sure that any explanation would be wasted on you ( no offence meant).

Try me. :)

look at the people who have aids.... it's either from sharing needles or people who have a lot of unprotected sex. stds

jlh47

No, AIDs/STDs affect everyone, regardless of sexual promiscuity or orientation.

Its ironic that you guys say America is a Christian country yet almost all of you (80%) think homosexuality is right. And abortion is right. And letting sexual predators free. battlefront23

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]In ancient times it was normal for men to be bi-sexual. wemhim

Exactly. Just read up on Ancient Greek sexual preferences. Homosexuality was rampant.

And was it ironic that right when they taught amoral sexual practices, their empire was crushed. Same with the Romans and Babylonians and Assyrians and Nazis.

Right. Thats exactly why they fell. They didn't care about morality and then right about then they are destroyed. No irony there?

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

correct.

jlh47

Nope. You are completely wrong, and judging your posting history, you know very little about AIDs, or STDs in general. AIDs did not come from a human who had sex with a monkey.

prove it.

People wouldn't vote for someone because he's gay?

Way to go America, no wonder people think of you the way they do

kyrieee

look at the people who have aids.... it's either from sharing needles or people who have a lot of unprotected sex. stds

God, for some annoying reason, my post got posted all likethislike :(

Rubbish!

Megaghost

Glitchspot, not you.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Its ironic that you guys say America is a Christian country yet almost all of you (80%) think homosexuality is right. And abortion is right. And letting sexual predators free. wemhim

Thats why I'm here :)

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]In ancient times it was normal for men to be bi-sexual. battlefront23

Exactly. Just read up on Ancient Greek sexual preferences. Homosexuality was rampant.

And was it ironic that right when they taught amoral sexual practices, their empire was crushed. Same with the Romans and Babylonians and Assyrians and Nazis.

Right. Thats exactly why they fell. They didn't care about morality and then right about then they are destroyed. No irony there?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]In ancient times it was normal for men to be bi-sexual. wemhim

Exactly. Just read up on Ancient Greek sexual preferences. Homosexuality was rampant.

And was it ironic that right when they taught amoral sexual practices, their empire was crushed. Same with the Romans and Babylonians and Assyrians and Nazis.

Right. Thats exactly why they fell. They didn't care about morality and then right about then they are destroyed. No irony there?

Basically what you said is why America is inevitably going to be destroyed... Fighting for justice and freedom is hardly amoral if you ask me...

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]Its ironic that you guys say America is a Christian country yet almost all of you (80%) think homosexuality is right. And abortion is right. And letting sexual predators free. battlefront23

Thats why I'm here :)

Not because you like video games?

Pretty pointless and self-righteous.

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]In ancient times it was normal for men to be bi-sexual. battlefront23

Exactly. Just read up on Ancient Greek sexual preferences. Homosexuality was rampant.

And was it ironic that right when they taught amoral sexual practices, their empire was crushed. Same with the Romans and Babylonians and Assyrians and Nazis.

Right. Thats exactly why they fell. They didn't care about morality and then right about then they are destroyed. No irony there?

Basically what you said is why America is inevitably going to be destroyed... Fighting for justice and freedom is hardly amoral if you ask me...

It's ok now, I edited it. :)Megaghost

Did you just join after seeing this debate? :P

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]Its ironic that you guys say America is a Christian country yet almost all of you (80%) think homosexuality is right. And abortion is right. And letting sexual predators free. The_Ish

Thats why I'm here :)

Not because you like video games?

Pretty pointless and self-righteous.

Actually I play video games quite a bit too... check my profile my gamercard is in there... and if I came off self-righteous thats not what I intended.... I came here to help the lost.

And for all the athiests and agnostics here, if a Christian says he hates gays, he's a horrible Christian. We hate what their orientation is, not them.battlefront23

As a Catholic I am not supposed to vote for anyone who supports abortion, and I guess anyone who says they are a practising homosexual as it is considered a sin.

So I cannot vote for such a person if I wish to follow the laws of my religion, if you think the church is wrong then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But you cannot ask people to believe in the same things as you just because you believe them to be right. People will believe in whatever they want to believe in, they are not going to change those core beliefs just because the people in charge of the country make new laws.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]In ancient times it was normal for men to be bi-sexual. wemhim

Exactly. Just read up on Ancient Greek sexual preferences. Homosexuality was rampant.

And was it ironic that right when they taught amoral sexual practices, their empire was crushed. Same with the Romans and Babylonians and Assyrians and Nazis.

Right. Thats exactly why they fell. They didn't care about morality and then right about then they are destroyed. No irony there?

Basically what you said is why America is inevitably going to be destroyed... Fighting for justice and freedom is hardly amoral if you ask me...

Ok well what else besides what I said is worthing of fighting and even dying for in you opinion? I'm guessing you're an agnostic or atheist, so if there's no moral absolutes, why should you fight for anything?

As a Catholic I am not supposed to vote for anyone who supports abortion, and I guess anyone who says they are a practising homosexual as it is considered a sin.

So I cannot vote for such a personif I wish to follow the laws of my religion, if you think the church is wrong then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But you cannot ask people to believe in the same things as you just because you believe them to be right. People will believe in whatever they want to believe in, they are not going to change those core beliefs just because the people in charge of the country make new laws.

ND_

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]And for all the athiests and agnostics here, if a Christian says he hates gays, he's a horrible Christian. We hate what their orientation is, not them.wemhim

Then they don't look at the Bible. Sodom and Gomorrah anyone?