Would you vote for an openly g@y president?

[QUOTE="jordina"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="jordina"]

I don't believe they choose to be that way therefore I consider it natural. I'm agnostic so if god exists, i'm surehe intended for such a thing to exist. Why? I do not know. As for the bible and that anti homosexual group in america, they are frightening. I don't think god would allow the existence of something he strongly hates.

Is it really a big deal. Surely sexuality cannot be defined so easily?

tok1879

uhmm....okay...axe murderers(just being extreme here)....does God hate them?...i don't know.......do we as a society have a disdain for them?...certainly..i hope....do they exist??....Heck yeah!!!!

point being, i don't know if God hates gays either, but their existance doesn't prove that he doesn't...

Of course it does'nt but I see no logical reason to hate homosexuals. Its just who they fancy. Axe murderers have motives.

I'm sure that homosexuals have a hard time accepting themselves. They probably don't need other people interfering with their lives and telling how much of an abomination they are. I thought god as a loving person but these people who represent him are the opposite.

i'm sure pedophiles too have a hard time accepting themselves too. Poor folks, they can't help who they're attracted to too. i'm sure they don't wake up one day and say to themselves "i want to be a pedophile". i guess we should show them some compassion too, right? heeeellz no! they need to learn how to be attracted to what they're naturally supposed to be attracted to! they're sick! they're not normal!! they need some psychiatric help.

[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]The line is not drawn at what is unnatural, otherwise we would halt human progress.

What we, our society, should draw the line, is when someone does an act that hurts others.gasmaskman

I wish that what you were saying happened, but it isn't. I hate how people are so against people being (married as a) homosexual that there are laws that are trying to be set up to prevent this from happening. As I was saying before this is against our right as an American. We have the freedom of choice (though this choice shouldn't go against the "an act that hurts others", IE abortion), and I believe that homosexuality is perfectly fine.

I think for this question to be legitimate (g@y president), that we as a society must advance enough that homosexuality is a normal, everyday thing. This won't happen for AT LEAST ten more years. Until then, homosexuals will probably be ridiculed and looked down upon for absolutely no good reason. It's a disgrace our society can be such that someone who has the will to be who they want must be shunned for no good reason.

wow!!! brainwashing at its best...i guess it's not only fox news that brainwash, liberals have been doin' it too, and to themselves at that.

..well in ur logic. What if i felt like i was in love with two women at the same time, who were both willing to marry me. What's the crime in us marrying each other. why r we denied that right?? it's consensual. we're not hurting anybody. shouldn't it then be a disgrace that this society won't let us marry??

How is that any different? Sure, disgrace maybe isn't the right word, but it's not any different. Though most polygamy's are without consensual agreement.

BTW where the hell do you get the fact I'm a liberal?

...cuz it's usually whiny liberals who feel the way u do. So would polygamy be okay if all the parties involved had a consensual agreement?

The question is why shouldn't it be? I'm sure you're probably going to come up with some stupid ass response as to some loophole in my argument or w/e, so can you just leave it be? If it's not hurting other people, I USUALLY don't have a problem with a choice.

y's my response gotta be stupid. y can't we just agree that society can't accept everything that seems ok to be legal? like, where do we draw the line? how does somebody naked in publichurt anybody? is it not her or his choice to be in the nude? why is this illegal?...see where i'm gettin'...there's gotta be lines to divide the acceptable and unacceptable. i personally don't believe homosexuality is not a choice as i also don't believe being a pedophile is not a choice either. A society not accepting both of them or a society prosecuting either of them doesn't necessarily make them bigots. it just means that's were they drew their line. It means those acts are not acceptable by their standards and rightly so!

[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="jordina"][QUOTE="tok1879"]

uhmm....okay...axe murderers(just being extreme here)....does God hate them?...i don't know.......do we as a society have a disdain for them?...certainly..i hope....do they exist??....Heck yeah!!!!

point being, i don't know if God hates gays either, but their existance doesn't prove that he doesn't...

gasmaskman

Of course it does'nt but I see no logical reason to hate homosexuals. Its just who they fancy. Axe murderers have motives.

I'm sure that homosexuals have a hard time accepting themselves. They probably don't need other people interfering with their lives and telling how much of an abomination they are. I thought god as a loving person but these people who represent him are the opposite.

i'm sure pedophiles too have a hard time accepting themselves too. Poor folks, they can't help who they're attracted to too. i'm sure they don't wake up one day and say to themselves "i want to be a pedophile". i guess we should show them some compassion too, right? heeeellz no! they need to learn how to be attracted to what they're naturally supposed to be attracted to! they're sick! they're not normal!! they need some psychiatric help.

That is by far a totally different subject. Pedophilia is against the law for OBVIOUS reason, and comparing pedophilia to homosexuality is stupid.

...thank u o wise one. Please bathe me with ur supreme knowledge...

...the reasoning is all i'm sayin'. they'reBOTH considered in some societies as 'sick'.i guess u'ld jus say that the ppl of said societies are bigots, uneducated or backwards, right?

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]The line is not drawn at what is unnatural, otherwise we would halt human progress.

What we, our society, should draw the line, is when someone does an act that hurts others.tok1879

I wish that what you were saying happened, but it isn't. I hate how people are so against people being (married as a) homosexual that there are laws that are trying to be set up to prevent this from happening. As I was saying before this is against our right as an American. We have the freedom of choice (though this choice shouldn't go against the "an act that hurts others", IE abortion), and I believe that homosexuality is perfectly fine.

I think for this question to be legitimate (g@y president), that we as a society must advance enough that homosexuality is a normal, everyday thing. This won't happen for AT LEAST ten more years. Until then, homosexuals will probably be ridiculed and looked down upon for absolutely no good reason. It's a disgrace our society can be such that someone who has the will to be who they want must be shunned for no good reason.

wow!!! brainwashing at its best...i guess it's not only fox news that brainwash, liberals have been doin' it too, and to themselves at that.

..well in ur logic. What if i felt like i was in love with two women at the same time, who were both willing to marry me. What's the crime in us marrying each other. why r we denied that right?? it's consensual. we're not hurting anybody. shouldn't it then be a disgrace that this society won't let us marry??

How is that any different? Sure, disgrace maybe isn't the right word, but it's not any different. Though most polygamy's are without consensual agreement.

BTW where the hell do you get the fact I'm a liberal?

...cuz it's usually whiny liberals who feel the way u do. So would polygamy be okay if all the parties involved had a consensual agreement?

The question is why shouldn't it be? I'm sure you're probably going to come up with some stupid ass response as to some loophole in my argument or w/e, so can you just leave it be? If it's not hurting other people, I USUALLY don't have a problem with a choice.

y's my response gotta be stupid. y can't we just agree that society can't accept everything that seems ok to be legal? like, where do we draw the line? how does somebody naked in publichurt anybody? is it not her or his choice to be in the nude? why is this illegal?...see where i'm gettin'...there's gotta be lines to divide the acceptable and unacceptable. i personally don't believe homosexuality is not a choice as i also don't believe being a pedophile is not a choice either. A society not accepting both of them or a society prosecuting either of them doesn't necessarily make them bigots. it just means that's were they drew their line. It means those acts are not acceptable by their standards and rightly so!

Being naked in front of people is not consensual... and pedophilia is against the law because mostly people who consent for it (that are under age) are usually lied to because they're easy to manipulate. Which is why the under 18 (or 16 I believe, in certain states) law applies.

[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]The line is not drawn at what is unnatural, otherwise we would halt human progress.

What we, our society, should draw the line, is when someone does an act that hurts others.gasmaskman

I wish that what you were saying happened, but it isn't. I hate how people are so against people being (married as a) homosexual that there are laws that are trying to be set up to prevent this from happening. As I was saying before this is against our right as an American. We have the freedom of choice (though this choice shouldn't go against the "an act that hurts others", IE abortion), and I believe that homosexuality is perfectly fine.

I think for this question to be legitimate (g@y president), that we as a society must advance enough that homosexuality is a normal, everyday thing. This won't happen for AT LEAST ten more years. Until then, homosexuals will probably be ridiculed and looked down upon for absolutely no good reason. It's a disgrace our society can be such that someone who has the will to be who they want must be shunned for no good reason.

wow!!! brainwashing at its best...i guess it's not only fox news that brainwash, liberals have been doin' it too, and to themselves at that.

..well in ur logic. What if i felt like i was in love with two women at the same time, who were both willing to marry me. What's the crime in us marrying each other. why r we denied that right?? it's consensual. we're not hurting anybody. shouldn't it then be a disgrace that this society won't let us marry??

How is that any different? Sure, disgrace maybe isn't the right word, but it's not any different. Though most polygamy's are without consensual agreement.

BTW where the hell do you get the fact I'm a liberal?

...cuz it's usually whiny liberals who feel the way u do. So would polygamy be okay if all the parties involved had a consensual agreement?

The question is why shouldn't it be? I'm sure you're probably going to come up with some stupid ass response as to some loophole in my argument or w/e, so can you just leave it be? If it's not hurting other people, I USUALLY don't have a problem with a choice.

y's my response gotta be stupid. y can't we just agree that society can't accept everything that seems ok to be legal? like, where do we draw the line? how does somebody naked in publichurt anybody? is it not her or his choice to be in the nude? why is this illegal?...see where i'm gettin'...there's gotta be lines to divide the acceptable and unacceptable. i personally don't believe homosexuality is not a choice as i also don't believe being a pedophile is not a choice either. A society not accepting both of them or a society prosecuting either of them doesn't necessarily make them bigots. it just means that's were they drew their line. It means those acts are not acceptable by their standards and rightly so!

Being naked in front of people is not consensual... and pedophilia is against the law because mostly people who consent for it (that are under age) are usually lied to because they're easy to manipulate. Which is why the under 18 (or 16 I believe, in certain states) law applies.

polygamy that consists of ppl who are of age and consenting is illegal as well. and if being naked in front of people is not "consensual", do u think a man in a skimpy drag is "consensual"??

If he's able to do the job, who cares....Actually, I dunno, it'd be kinda weird.

If he's flamboyant about it, I think it's a given.

Man gameservant took trolling to the extreme.

And yes. I don't see why anyone would say no unless they are brainwashed by religion or hates gay people.

Well I don't know. Maybe it wouldn't be such a hot idea. Rebels try to bomb theU.S for several reasonsand you want a gay president. I think a gay president would cause the **** to hit the fan.

As for the pedophilia... why did that come up? Pedophilia is illegalbecausethere is an age of consent issue. How do you help a pedo? How do you cure a pedo? Why would anyone want to have sex with a child? No self-control?

You don't really think about pedos nor care aboutwhat they dountil you meet one. Just the presence of them and the thought of what they have done is infuriating. I'm suprised the Menthat transport them or the jailers don't beat them to death.

[QUOTE="jordina"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="jordina"]

I don't believe they choose to be that way therefore I consider it natural. I'm agnostic so if god exists, i'm surehe intended for such a thing to exist. Why? I do not know. As for the bible and that anti homosexual group in america, they are frightening. I don't think god would allow the existence of something he strongly hates.

Is it really a big deal. Surely sexuality cannot be defined so easily?

tok1879

uhmm....okay...axe murderers(just being extreme here)....does God hate them?...i don't know.......do we as a society have a disdain for them?...certainly..i hope....do they exist??....Heck yeah!!!!

point being, i don't know if God hates gays either, but their existance doesn't prove that he doesn't...

Of course it does'nt but I see no logical reason to hate homosexuals. Its just who they fancy. Axe murderers have motives.

I'm sure that homosexuals have a hard time accepting themselves. They probably don't need other people interfering with their lives and telling how much of an abomination they are. I thought god as a loving person but these people who represent him are the opposite.

i'm sure pedophiles too have a hard time accepting themselves too. Poor folks, they can't help who they're attracted to too. i'm sure they don't wake up one day and say to themselves "i want to be a pedophile". i guess we should show them some compassion too, right? heeeellz no! they need to learn how to be attracted to what they're naturally supposed to be attracted to! they're sick! they're not normal!! they need some psychiatric help.

Comparing homosexuality to pedophillia is just wrong. Pedophiles are a danger to children and if they had any morals they would avoid children. Homosexuals just can't be attracted to the opposite sex in the same way you cannot be attracted to the same sex. They can't learn to be attracted to opposite sex because there is nothing there. How would you feel if you were forced to live with the same sex? Its what they feel about the opposite sex.

It can be difficult to understand but why bother? Its just sex.

I don't care if he's gay If I agree with his views, then yes.GettingTired

agreed.

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]The line is not drawn at what is unnatural, otherwise we would halt human progress.

What we, our society, should draw the line, is when someone does an act that hurts others.tok1879

I wish that what you were saying happened, but it isn't. I hate how people are so against people being (married as a) homosexual that there are laws that are trying to be set up to prevent this from happening. As I was saying before this is against our right as an American. We have the freedom of choice (though this choice shouldn't go against the "an act that hurts others", IE abortion), and I believe that homosexuality is perfectly fine.

I think for this question to be legitimate (g@y president), that we as a society must advance enough that homosexuality is a normal, everyday thing. This won't happen for AT LEAST ten more years. Until then, homosexuals will probably be ridiculed and looked down upon for absolutely no good reason. It's a disgrace our society can be such that someone who has the will to be who they want must be shunned for no good reason.

wow!!! brainwashing at its best...i guess it's not only fox news that brainwash, liberals have been doin' it too, and to themselves at that.

..well in ur logic. What if i felt like i was in love with two women at the same time, who were both willing to marry me. What's the crime in us marrying each other. why r we denied that right?? it's consensual. we're not hurting anybody. shouldn't it then be a disgrace that this society won't let us marry??

How is that any different? Sure, disgrace maybe isn't the right word, but it's not any different. Though most polygamy's are without consensual agreement.

BTW where the hell do you get the fact I'm a liberal?

...cuz it's usually whiny liberals who feel the way u do. So would polygamy be okay if all the parties involved had a consensual agreement?

The question is why shouldn't it be? I'm sure you're probably going to come up with some stupid ass response as to some loophole in my argument or w/e, so can you just leave it be? If it's not hurting other people, I USUALLY don't have a problem with a choice.

y's my response gotta be stupid. y can't we just agree that society can't accept everything that seems ok to be legal? like, where do we draw the line? how does somebody naked in publichurt anybody? is it not her or his choice to be in the nude? why is this illegal?...see where i'm gettin'...there's gotta be lines to divide the acceptable and unacceptable. i personally don't believe homosexuality is not a choice as i also don't believe being a pedophile is not a choice either. A society not accepting both of them or a society prosecuting either of them doesn't necessarily make them bigots. it just means that's were they drew their line. It means those acts are not acceptable by their standards and rightly so!

Comparing homosexuality with pedophilia is like comparing apples with oranges.

Of course, logically if it's ok to not vote for somebody who is black, Christian, physically disabled, ect.

That's not right, and discrimination against homosexuals is disgusting.

If your deciding factor on whether or not to vote someone is based off of sexual orientation, you shouldn't be able to vote.MattUD1

Would I vote for a gay Presidential candidate?

HELL NO!!!!!

But if he won anyway, I'd get the hell out this country.

If I thought that he (or she, don't forget lesbians) had agreeable views, then of course I'd vote for that candidate.

It doesn't matter whether he/she is black, hispanic, white, asian, physically handicapped, gay bisexual, rich, poor, or anything else. If I agreed with his/her views, I'd vote for him/her.

If your deciding factor on whether or not to vote someone is based off of sexual orientation, you shouldn't be able to vote.MattUD1

[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="jordina"][QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="jordina"]

I don't believe they choose to be that way therefore I consider it natural. I'm agnostic so if god exists, i'm surehe intended for such a thing to exist. Why? I do not know. As for the bible and that anti homosexual group in america, they are frightening. I don't think god would allow the existence of something he strongly hates.

Is it really a big deal. Surely sexuality cannot be defined so easily?

wemhim

uhmm....okay...axe murderers(just being extreme here)....does God hate them?...i don't know.......do we as a society have a disdain for them?...certainly..i hope....do they exist??....Heck yeah!!!!

point being, i don't know if God hates gays either, but their existance doesn't prove that he doesn't...

Of course it does'nt but I see no logical reason to hate homosexuals. Its just who they fancy. Axe murderers have motives.

I'm sure that homosexuals have a hard time accepting themselves. They probably don't need other people interfering with their lives and telling how much of an abomination they are. I thought god as a loving person but these people who represent him are the opposite.

i'm sure pedophiles too have a hard time accepting themselves too. Poor folks, they can't help who they're attracted to too. i'm sure they don't wake up one day and say to themselves "i want to be a pedophile". i guess we should show them some compassion too, right? heeeellz no! they need to learn how to be attracted to what they're naturally supposed to be attracted to! they're sick! they're not normal!! they need some psychiatric help.

Yes, but I cant see it happening anytime soon.skinnypete91

It may have already happened...

Of course I would, if I agreed with his policies. Only moronic bigots wouldn't vote for a guy because of his sexual orientation.

I would not vote for an openly gay person. It has nothing to do with hate. It has more to do with my desire to have a morally sound person leading the country.Jemdude

I'm pretty sure gay people have morals. The ones I know do, anyway. :|

Anyway, I would. I don't care what someone's preference is, it doesn't mean they couldn't be a good leader.