Zimmerman doctor confirms broken nose, autopsy of Martin shows knuckle abrasions

Zimmerman is a racist, he attacked Martin out of racial hatred. Martin being the saint he was tried to reason with the filthy racist, unfortunately the racist was carrying a gun and shot him. Then the racist police decide to cover it up and the racist doctor also decided to release some false medical reports.

toast_burner

And you were there to see how it all happened.

Seems legit.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Ugalde-"]

I am not to keen on the story, I have kind of decided to sit this one out in most threads, but all I am going to say is if a guy was following me, and then got close and threatened me with a gun, it's not to crazy to think that I would strike first.

Ugalde-

Well I've had a gun pulled on me (bad area of town) and the last thing on my mind was punching the guy in the face. I just handed him over my wallet lol. With that said he was a polite armed robber and I did ask for my wallet back because it had my ID and stuff in it...so he took the money out and gave me my wallet back. Very nice of him!

Anyways according to Zimmerman he lost site of Martin at which point Martin attacked him. We don't know if that's true though, but a lot of the evidence is starting to corroborate most of his story. With that said there's absolutely zero evidence supporting that Zimmerman was chasing down Martin with a gun. Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend and never mentioned a gun once. While that of course doesn't mean there isn't any possibility that he didn't, there's nothing to suggest he did and in fact things pointing to that not being the case.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Zimmerman is a racist, he attacked Martin out of racial hatred. Martin being the saint he was tried to reason with the filthy racist, unfortunately the racist was carrying a gun and shot him. Then the racist police decide to cover it up and the racist doctor also decided to release some false medical reports.

N30F3N1X

And you were there to see how it all happened.

Seems legit.

I read toast's post as sarcasm. Toast, were you being sarcastic?

It's starting to look like Zimmerman will walk.

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Zimmerman is a racist, he attacked Martin out of racial hatred. Martin being the saint he was tried to reason with the filthy racist, unfortunately the racist was carrying a gun and shot him. Then the racist police decide to cover it up and the racist doctor also decided to release some false medical reports.

Palantas

And you were there to see how it all happened.

Seems legit.

I read toast's post as sarcasm. Toast, were you being sarcastic?

[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="Renevent42"] No, that's just your own personal racism speaking. If a black man was being beaten and defended himself and the evidence supported that I would be making the same exact points.

What is clear, however, is you will ignore all the evidence so you can affirm your own racists beliefs.

Renevent42

Well that's progress I guess...so it's not that Zimmerman was wrong...he should have just let Martin continue to assault him and take the beating.

Amazing.

It's starting to look like Zimmerman will walk.

coolbeans90

Which raises another question: where will he walk to?

I read toast's post as sarcasm. Toast, were you being sarcastic?

Palantas

Considering some of the answers from some people regarding this major mediatic trashstorm and the fact that this thread got to ten pages in barely two hours I can't tell for sure.

Sorry if that was the case.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

[QUOTE="Bucked20"] If you got your asss whoop in a fight you should be able to take the L instead of pulling a gun like a b*tch.I guess its ok though since you think Zimmerman was the victim in this situation. Bucked20

Well that's progress I guess...so it's not that Zimmerman was wrong...he should have just let Martin continue to assault him and take the beating.

Amazing.

You are right, as I said in the beginning of the thread Zimmerman was assaulting Martin's knuckles with his face.Renevent42

:lol:

Good for Zimmerman. People like Trayvon don't deserve to live. He's nothing more than a criminal.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

It's starting to look like Zimmerman will walk.

Necrifer

Which raises another question: where will he walk to?

Indeed.

[QUOTE="Palantas"]

I read toast's post as sarcasm. Toast, were you being sarcastic?

N30F3N1X

Considering some of the answers from some people regarding this major mediatic trashstorm and the fact that this thread got to ten pages in barely two hours I can't tell for sure.

Sorry if that was the case.

I'm sure he'll find it in his heart to forgive you.

I see for many a fist fight is justification to kill someone

SEANMCAD

Oh god, this fvck again.

I see for many a fist fight is justification to kill someone

SEANMCAD

[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="Renevent42"]

Well that's progress I guess...so it's not that Zimmerman was wrong...he should have just let Martin continue to assault him and take the beating.

Amazing.

Renevent42

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Physical evidence is actually more reliable than the accounts of the actors as at least one of them would have to make them self look better. Renevent42

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] What? The actors? So physical evidence is sufficient to explain the motivations that led to Martin striking Zimmerman? The Physical evidence only provides the Effect. Not the Cause. If I broke your nose and busted your face then the only thing known is that I broke your nose and busted your face. There is nothing to say why I broke your nose and busted your face other than your testimony. If I wasn't available to give my testimony then your side is all we would have to go on. And it is human nature to paint yourself as a victim, especially if you are embarrassed from getting an ass whooping. There is no way to know that you were actually the instigator and threw the first punch if it hit in an area that didn't leave physical evidence of such, and then after instigating the fight ended up getting more than you could handle and were left with a broken nose and busted face. Physical Evidence does not tell all the story.SEANMCAD

I am not sure I understand how any of this matters. Kids get in fights all the time does that mean if one got a broken nose they had the right to kill the guy who did it? unless told otherwise I am going to assume many here think yes to that question

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Physical evidence is actually more reliable than the accounts of the actors as at least one of them would have to make them self look better. Renevent42

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] What? The actors? So physical evidence is sufficient to explain the motivations that led to Martin striking Zimmerman? The Physical evidence only provides the Effect. Not the Cause. If I broke your nose and busted your face then the only thing known is that I broke your nose and busted your face. There is nothing to say why I broke your nose and busted your face other than your testimony. If I wasn't available to give my testimony then your side is all we would have to go on. And it is human nature to paint yourself as a victim, especially if you are embarrassed from getting an ass whooping. There is no way to know that you were actually the instigator and threw the first punch if it hit in an area that didn't leave physical evidence of such, and then after instigating the fight ended up getting more than you could handle and were left with a broken nose and busted face. Physical Evidence does not tell all the story.-Sun_Tzu-

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Actually that's not your fault...that's the shatty media doing it's thing again.

The original video was cut off to that point, let me find the original...WTF is wrong with the media!?!?!

*edit2*

It is the same video, you just ignored what he said prior (1:00). More consistent with the defense, but of course there's other possibilities. How you turn that into the opposite though is a wonder.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Physical evidence is actually more reliable than the accounts of the actors as at least one of them would have to make them self look better. LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

I am not sure I understand how any of this matters. Kids get in fights all the time does that mean if one got a broken nose they had the right to kill the guy who did it? unless told otherwise I am going to assume many here think yes to that question

SEANMCAD

It still doesnt matter!

if someone attacks you with their fists your position is you have the right to kill them.

do you not?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] What? The actors? So physical evidence is sufficient to explain the motivations that led to Martin striking Zimmerman? The Physical evidence only provides the Effect. Not the Cause. If I broke your nose and busted your face then the only thing known is that I broke your nose and busted your face. There is nothing to say why I broke your nose and busted your face other than your testimony. If I wasn't available to give my testimony then your side is all we would have to go on. And it is human nature to paint yourself as a victim, especially if you are embarrassed from getting an ass whooping. There is no way to know that you were actually the instigator and threw the first punch if it hit in an area that didn't leave physical evidence of such, and then after instigating the fight ended up getting more than you could handle and were left with a broken nose and busted face. Physical Evidence does not tell all the story.Nuck81

[QUOTE="Bucked20"]

That white privilege is working once again

Black man shoots someone after getting beat,everyone would say how he's such a punk

White man shoots someone after getting beat,everyone says it was self defense and he was attacked

AmeriKKKa at its finest

Nuck81

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Actions are punishable by law....motivations aren't important.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]

That white privilege is working once again

Black man shoots someone after getting beat,everyone would say how he's such a punk

White man shoots someone after getting beat,everyone says it was self defense and he was attacked

AmeriKKKa at its finest

SaintWalrus

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Actions are punishable by law....motivations aren't important.LJS9502_basic

thegerg, is that you? :shock:

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'd imagine were that the case Martin's call would not have been to a gf but 911....LJS9502_basic

Wonder if news outlets will report this...

[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] The is actually pretty true. If a black man had shot a 17 year old white kid even if the White kid had thrown the first punch, he'd already be on death row.Nuck81

Thats nice, blame what previous generations had done with current generations

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nuck81"] This is the dumbest post of the thread. In a Murder case motivations are EXTREMELY important.GreySeal9

thegerg, is that you? :shock:

:lol: oh catchphrases.

On topic though, lets just let the court and local police do their damn jobs instead of letting the general population and the media decide a man's fate. After all that has happened, even if proven innocent, this man will be lambasted everywhere he goes and worse.