9450 or 8400 please; help me i am from greece

HI

My name is jim and i am from greece

I have one p4 and this cpu was destroyed and i want to buy a new computer and i dont know what to buy

I want to buy one computer for to play all the latest newest games i want to have this computer for one year at least to hold ,me from now

i am between 9450 and 8400 which is better;;

will i buy x48 or x38 or sli 790; and which mark is the best asus;

which graphic card will i buy 9800 gtx or 3870 ati;;

which PSU to buy 1000 WAT OR 850; what is better;

which memory will i buy dd2 or ddr3

how much hardish will i buy 500 giga or more westen digital is good;;

i want to bult one pc for to play all the recent games and the future games when it comes

i have read a lot of articles which say that 8400 is the best for pc games but 9450 will be as good as 8400;

i dont want to pay money now and after 6 months to give another money for another computer

in greece the peole dont know how to choose computer and for this reason i came in gamespot

for to help me please;; and to buy one cpu for to hold me at least 1 year from now to play all the newest games

can you help me please;;

i give money 1200 euro

\

and what is better 8400 or 9450 for the newest games and the future games;

if i buy 9450 will i play all the newest games like 8400;;

9450 will hold me 1 year from now;;

help me please;

\please;

You really dont need those type of cpu's even a Q6600 will last 2-3 years easy or even the AMD quads. That said Even an E6600 or Athlon X2 5600+ or better will last 2 years easy. Now 1000 watt psu is a waste a good 600 watt psu with at least 26A or more on the 12v rail/rails and has 70% or greater effiecenty rating at max load is good enough. The 9800GTX is a waste because its no more than an overclocked 8800GTS 512 which is only 1-3 fps slower, so save some money there.

Get

Q6600

Asus P5E

Corsair XMS2 or G.Skill 2GB ram

EVGA or XFX 8800GT 512 or GTS 512

Corsair HX620W

q9450 or q6600 to buy;;

q9450 will be good for pc games;; q6600 is better than qx9450;;

and psu 800 wat is enough;;

will i buy 9800 gtx;

and 780 evga;;

will i be ok;;

can you help me please;;

dont get the 780i mobo get x38,x48 much better,
q6600 , and 8800GTS 512mb because it's almost the same as 9800gtx for lower price

Q6600 = 8 mb cache (+ than enough) Q9450 = 12 mb cache (overkill imo)

6600 = 2.4 ghz (highly overclockable) 9450 = 2.66 ghz (dunno bout OC'ing)

there is NO duch thing as a QX9450, only QX9650/9770/...

and... for a 9800 GTX even 650w is enough

AND... 9450 is better, but costs ~150 euros +...

a q6600 @ 3 ghz is overkill for any game

and get the thermalright ultra 120 extreme cpu cooler, for the best OC possible

so if i buy qx9450 and dont overclock and buy 9800 gtx will i play all the games and the newest games ;;

and if i buy x38 will be better;

for 1 year from now;; without a problem;

or to buy 8400;;

so the next update to do in 2010;;

help me please;

qx9450 and 9800 gtx will last me for 1 year;;

from now to play all the latest games;;

so qx9450 and 9800 will it last me for 1 year for to play pc games;;

so qx9450 and 9800 will it last me for 1 year for to play pc games;;

XARIS19

yep more than 1 year for sure

so qx9450 and 9800 will it last me for 1 year for to play pc games;;

XARIS19

OMG Even a 8800GT will last the next two years on high setting good grief! You dont need a QX or any cpu like that A Q6600 is more than enough for any game now and even two years down the road. Now why buy a 9800GTX?????? A 9800GTX=8800GTS 512mb and the 8800GTS is half the cost and darn near the same performance!!!! Save some money and dont go with what retailers say and noobs. A dual core cpu at 2.4ghz is plenty 2-4gb ram, and a 8800GT/GTS is plenty fast for games even for the next two years!!!! Im done now :P

so if buy the 8400 and buy 9800 gtx will i play pc games for 2 years from now;;

with out a problem;;

if buy 9450 will be better for the pc games;;

i have heard that will come pc games for quad cores

so what to do;;

if i buy 8400 will it hold me for 2 years; or buy qx9450;;

so if i buy the 8800 gts and buy and the q450 will i play all the newest games for 2 years;;

age og conan will play with qx450 and 8800 gts;;

so what you advise me to buy qx9450 and 8800 gts

\\\or

8400 and 8800 gts;;

and if i buy 8400 will it last me for 2 years from now;;

so if i buy the 8800 gts and buy and the q450 will i play all the newest games for 2 years;;

age og conan will play with qx450 and 8800 gts;;

so what you advise me to buy qx9450 and 8800 gts

\\\or

8400 and 8800 gts;;

and if i buy 8400 will it last me for 2 years from now;;

XARIS19

q9450 is best if you ahve the moneyf or it.... =/

so if i buy qx9450 and 9800 gtx will i play all the games for 2 years from now;

what you advise me; to buy;;

so if buy qx9450 and 9800 gtx will i p,lay all the newest games for 2 years from now;;

so not to buy 8400;;

so if buy qx9450 and 9800 gtx will i p,lay all the newest games for 2 years from now;;

so not to buy 8400;;

XARIS19

you can yes, but u sud wiht a q6600 as well,

maya s well save some cash

so what you advise me to buy qx9450 or 8400 for cpu;

for hardisk 500 giga;; are good;; and which mark;

780 sli or another;

and psu 800 is enough;

and ram ddr2; 2 giga ;;

Ok you seem confused.First of all take it easy you already know what parts are good.Of all the choices that you have mentioned,you wont go wrong with either one so take it easy.:)

Now to settle the CPU debate just get the Q6600.It is not better than the Q9450 but it will still play games for many years.The Q9450 is not worth the extra price.The E8400 CPU is a different story but you really dont want to get into that.You know it's really technical stuff and you dont want to know cuz your head will explode then.:P

So CPU case closed just get the Q6600.

The graphics card is also a really easy choice.As others have suggested just get the 8800GTS 512MB video card.It will easily last you a long time.

Graphic card case closed as well.Get the 8800GTS 512MB.

Now before I give my advice on the motherboard,I would like to know what monitor do you have and what resolution will you be gaming in.

AND YES A Q6600 AND 8800GTS 512MB WILL EASILY LAST

YOU FOR 2 OR MORE YEARS.

before i tell you for my monitor

i want to tell me analyze some things

if i buy q450 and buy 8800 gts will it be big diference withq6600 in pc games;

qx9450 will it be better in pc games with q6600; will i see any diference;; in pc games;

because qx9450 is 45nm and 6600 is 65 nm

will i buy 500 giga or more;

how many ram will i buy 2 giga and which frequnecy;

8800 gts is the same like 9800gtx;;

i have one samsung 19 size

which motherboard will i buy ;; 780 sli or another;;

how much psu will i buy 800 wat or more;

can you give me analyze advises pleaasse;

No there wont be a big different in gaming with Q6600 and q450 because they are just now starting to recomend low end dual core cpus for games for recomended requirements. Yes the 8800GTS 512 is the 9800GTX virtually. Hardrive is fine, 2-4 Gb is plenty. A good 600 watt PSU is plenty for the Pc.

Q6600

2Gb or 4Gb (go with 4gb but dont have too)

8800GTS 512

500Gb Hardrive

Thats a great PC to play games of now and for the future.

Getting a Q6600 is stupid now, even at it's lower price. If you can afford the Q9450, get it by all means. But the e8400 is very good too.

A 9800GTX is a better choice than an hd3870, and DDR2 is plenty good for gaming (DDR3 is waaaay overpriced right now).

also this is post that should end this thread already

cpu - Q9450 (you have the money for it so buy it)

mobo - DFI LP DX X48

gpu - 8800gts 512mb

ram - crucial ballistix ddr2 800 (2X2GB)

psu - corsair vx550w or corsair tx650w psu (some sites have this psu for as low as the vx550w psu)

case - cooler master centurion RC590

HDD - your choice just saty at or above 7200RPM

dvd/cd drive bay/burner

OS - windows vista home premium 64bit

now the Q9450 is better then the Q6600 and will last longer the difference might not be much but will be for certain applications and if you have the money buy it right ?

as for the video card the 8800gts 512mb is a great card make sure you buy the G92 version cuz there are two other crds but there based on the G80 core

the 4 gigs of ram will help with vista seeing as how recommened is 2 gigs so 4 gigs will rmake it much smoother maybe not for games but for running the pc yes

the x48 board is a great overclocker and is crossfire capable which is a good thing becuase by summer they will be relaseing the 4800 sereis cards by ATI so if you want to trade the 8800gts for high end cards go for it

the psu is good enough and will be good enough if you choose to crossfire cuz the 4800 series cards are meant to be less power hungry and power effecient.

good luck and happy gaming :)

today i bought the coolmaster kosmos

i bought and one hardisk the seagate sata 2 750 giga 32 mb 7200 rpm

until now did i do good choise in this things i bought;;

tommorow i will buy one psu 850 or 1000

but i dont know which i will buy

there are those marks enermax 850 watt or 1000 to take;;

enermax is it good mark;;

coolmaster m1000 realpower modular

pc power and cooling 1000 watt turbo cool

which of these will i buy;

will i buy 850 watt or 1000 wat;

how much one 9800 gtx and 9800 gx2 psu need; without sli;;

what the most people take; 850 or 1000 wat;

can you help me please;;

what is the best thing;;

if i buy 850 wat psu will it last me for 3 years from now;;

can you help me please;

HI

My name is jim and i am from greece

I have one p4 and this cpu was destroyed and i want to buy a new computer and i dont know what to buy

I want to buy one computer for to play all the latest newest games i want to have this computer for one year at least to hold ,me from now

i am between 9450 and 8400 which is better;;

will i buy x48 or x38 or sli 790; and which mark is the best asus;

which graphic card will i buy 9800 gtx or 3870 ati;;

which PSU to buy 1000 WAT OR 850; what is better;

which memory will i buy dd2 or ddr3

how much hardish will i buy 500 giga or more westen digital is good;;

i want to bult one pc for to play all the recent games and the future games when it comes

i have read a lot of articles which say that 8400 is the best for pc games but 9450 will be as good as 8400;

i dont want to pay money now and after 6 months to give another money for another computer

in greece the peole dont know how to choose computer and for this reason i came in gamespot

for to help me please;; and to buy one cpu for to hold me at least 1 year from now to play all the newest games

can you help me please;;

XARIS19

CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400. I recommend a dual core now because Intel's next generation architecture, Nehalem, will launch sometime in Q4 2008. Intel will launch high end models first (i.e. 'Extreme Edition') and will follow suite with mainstream models probably a month later. Anyway, just stick with a dual core until cheap Nehalem quad cores (even Nehalem dual cores) come out onto the market.
I'd only recommend a quad core (a Q9300 in this case) if you're the type of person to upgrade quite frequently, or if you're lazy in upgrading (you don't upgrade for up to 2 years).
There is NO need for a quad core now, a dual core can and will max most games in the foreseeable future (unless you play massive RTS games like Supreme Commander--in which case a quad core is needed);

Motherboard chipset: P35 Express with DDR2. Remember that; the P35 Express chipset does NOT support SLI or CrossFire (well it does support CrossFire--but you'd be wasting money putting a high end ATI card in a x4 slot). If you need/want SLI/CrossFire then you're looking at 750i (SLI), X38 (CrossFire), X48 (CrossFire) and P45 (CrossFire). Now this is just me, but unless you're 100% certain that you're going SLI, just stick with an Intel chipset--They run cooler, offer more stability, are cheaper than NVIDIA equivalents and overclock very well.
Also, make a note that the P45 Express will be coming out quite soon (maybe in the next few weeks or so). Now, you can totally ignore P45 if you don't need CrossFire.

GPU: 8800 GTS 512MB. Make note, however, that R700/RV770 will come sometime in Q2/Q3 (maybe around June to July). But if you're going to go out and buy a PC in the next few weeks, the just go for the 8800 GTS 512MB;

RAM: 2 x 1GB DDR2-800 (lots of brands to choose from). Purchase from brands that are well recognised by overclockers such as Crucial/Geil/Team. Corsair don't make much highly overclockable DDR2-800 modules (last time I checked), they tend to lean more towards value for money with companies like Kingston. So yeah, try and aim for a kit from Crucial, but if that's not possible, then go for someone like Corsair;

PSU: Corsair VX450W (if you have the extra money, go for the 550w version);

HDD: Yes, Western Digital is a good company--Seagate is too. Go for whatever size you need. Typically though, most "gamers" only require around 250-320GB of storage. If you're a bit of a movie/HD junkie, then you're probably looking at doubling the amount to around 500-640GB. 640GB is really the upper limit for any desktop user, even then 640GB is a bit too much (considering you can always add extra HDD's if you run out of space). On a final note, make sure that the HDD has at least 16MB of cache.

so for memory

which i will buy;;

crucial balistic ddr2 pc8500 5-5-5-15;

geil 4gb kit ddr2 evo one 800 4-4-4;

are good these memories;;

;;;

which you tell me to buy;;

from this 2;;

if i buy evga 750 sli will it be good for to buy my 9800 gtx;

evga 750 sli is it good mothermorad;;

and costs liitle than the others am i rigfht;

so for memory

which i will buy;;

crucial balistic ddr2 pc8500 5-5-5-15;

geil 4gb kit ddr2 evo one 800 4-4-4;

are good these memories;;

;;;

which you tell me to buy;;

from this 2;;

XARIS19

Both are good, yes, and I would go with Crucial.

if i buy evga 750 sli will it be good for to buy my 9800 gtx;

evga 750 sli is it good mothermorad;;

and costs liitle than the others am i rigfht;

XARIS19

As I said before, unless you're 100% that you will go SLI, just stick with P35.

Look for a P35 board like the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L.

so if i go for sli

will i buy 750sli or 780 sli;;

for my quad core 9450;;

are there big diference in 750 and 780;;

which of 2 you tell me to buy;;

can you tell me please;;

and one more thing

if i buy 9450 quad and 8800 gts 512 mb will i play all the newest games for 2 years from now;;

please;

can you give the last advises please;;

750 or 780; sli;

790 sli is ddr3 and is not good yet

so if i go for sli

will i buy 750sli or 780 sli;;

for my quad core 9450;;

are there big diference in 750 and 780;;

which of 2 you tell me to buy;;

can you tell me please;;

and one more thing

if i buy 9450 quad and 8800 gts 512 mb will i play all the newest games for 2 years from now;;

please;

can you give the last advises please;;

750 or 780; sli;

790 sli is ddr3 and is not good yet

XARIS19

If you go SLI, then yes you're looking at 750i or 780i.

750i is 780i with a few cut down features, the most obvious being 3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 lanes being cut down to 2 x PCIe 2.0 x8 lanes.

2 x PCIe 2.0 x8 is enough for regular SLI setups (two way SLI), so if you're going for regular SLI just stick with 750i. If you're looking at Tri SLI or Quad SLI, then I would suggest the 780i.

Just a note on SLI/CrossFire though: Unless you plan on buying two cards at the same time, it's generally not worth going with SLI/CrossFire. Some people think that SLI/CrossFire is handy because they buy one GPU initially, then plan on buying a second GPU a few months/a year later--THAT DOESN'T WORK.

New GPU's get launched regularly, and more often than not, a brand new single GPU setup will outperform an old SLI/CrossFire setup (e.g. X1950 XTX CrossFire and 7900 GTX SLI both get outperformed by a single 8800 GTX).

Which is why I said it before (and I will keep repeating this point), unless you're 100% certain that you'll get two GPU's, just stick to a single card chipset (e.g. P35 Express).

Next subject: If you buy a Q9450 and an 8800 GTS, will you be able to play the latest games two years from now...
The short answer is yes, the long answer is: Most likely your CPU will keep you going 2 years from now, but your GPU will hold you back from maxing the latest games. You'll be able to run the games, you just won't be able to push all the settings to the max.

Nothing you do will prevent this from happening. GPU's age very quickly, which is why a lot of people upgrade every 6-12 months. That's why whenever you spend money on a new rig, always set aside some extra cash for future GPU upgrades.

so you are telling me to buy 780 sli for my quad 9450 am i right;;

i have one question

if i buy qx9450 and 9800 gtx will be able to play all the newest games for 3 years from now with all full;;

without a problem;;

and i have one question and if it comes 9900 gtx what it will hapen with all the newest games;;

can you help me with my questions please;;

tomorrow i will buy new psu

enermax 1000 wat

will it hold me for 3 years from now; and for the future graphics cards;;

i have the money for to buy these psu

will it be good 1000 wat;;

so you are telling me to buy 780 sli for my quad 9450 am i right;;

i have one question

if i buy qx9450 and 9800 gtx will be able to play all the newest games for 3 years from now with all full;;

without a problem;;

and i have one question and if it comes 9900 gtx what it will hapen with all the newest games;;

can you help me with my questions please;;

XARIS19

No, I said that you should only buy 780i if you want TRI SLI.

Tri/Quad SLI -> 780i
SLI -> 750i
CrossFire -> X38/X48/P45
Single Card -> P35/P45

Did you read my post? I said NO GPU will be able to max games for any longer than 6-12 months. After 12 months, software outpaces the hardware, and you will need a new GPU to be able to continue maxing games.

You can buy a stupidly fast card today (i.e. 9800 GX2), but you'll still be forced to upgrade at least 12 months later if you want to continue maxing games.

so if i buy 9800 gtx after how many months will i upgrade this card;;

example if i will buy 9800 gtx now

will be able to play all the newest games of 2009 in full settings;;

can you help me please;;will 9800 gtx last me for the 2009 in full settings;;

and after 1 years i will update it

can you help me please;

with this question;;

i mean for 1 year from now with 9800 gtx will i be ok;;

\with the newest games in 2009;;

i mean for 1 year from now with 9800 gtx will i be ok;;

\with the newest games in 2009;;

XARIS19

Maybe.

I'm not a fortune teller, so I can't say anything absolute. But based on history, I'd say that the 8800 GTS 512MB or 9800 GTX (btw, these two cards are basically the same. The 9800 GTX is nothing but an overclocked 8800 GTS 512MB) should at least play games on high settings in 2009. It might not be able to max them, but it should still be able to pump a lot of eye candy.

But you know, buy an 8800 GTS 512MB now, and then upgrade when the card starts to choke under some games. It's not a big deal.

so if buy 9800 gtx i will be ok for the games of 2009 in full settings am i right;;

what you mean it should be able to pumb them with a eye;;

what you mean;;

and one more thing

i will buy the 780 sli

i am between in asus striker 2 780 sli

and evga 780 sli which of them will i take;;

asus striker 2 or evga 780 sli;

can you help me please;;

so if buy 9800 gtx i will be ok for the games of 2009 in full settings am i right;;

XARIS19

He clearly said that he doesnt know and really how can we know??What he said is that an 8800GTS or 9800GTX will play all the 2009 games in "respectable" settings.There is no possible way of telling exactly what settings will they run.An 8800GTX was supposed to max out crysis,then everybody thought that the 9800GTX would,so you see it really is pointless discussing this.

Each question you've asked in this thread has been answered at least 3 times.

Go look at my posts again and read them CAREFULLY.

i have and one last question

if i buy 780 sli and ddr2 ram will be able to play all the newest games for 2 years from now with ddr2 ram;

will the pc games need ddr3 in 1 year;;

this is my question i have;;

if i buy ddr2 will i play all the newest games for 2 years from now with ddr2;;\

can you help me p[lease;;