9450 or 8400 please; help me i am from greece

i want to play only pc games nothing more

so what to buy;;

8400 or q6600;;

so;;

but q6600 is 4 * 2,4 so its faster than 8400 in pc games or the same;;

XARIS19

What are the prices like over in greece for those CPUs?

Are you sure on the less than 1% CPU usage? Is that with onboard sound or with sound card? Double check for me and proof post your claims.teddyrob

So you are assuming things? How do I know because I have been told so by the makers. Quad core is what will run the game best. Dual core will be running on reduced settings. Crysis is a different kettle of fish to Alan Wake take a look at the Youtube video you don't understand the game engine at all. It is seemless no loading on of levels they stream in with the use of a whole core. Another whole core is used for Physics. You are all out of cores with a dual. They will have to be on the same core thus half the processing power.teddyrob

The tests were run in 1024x768 resolution, without FSAA. The image quality settings were left at defaults not low.

Q9450 > E8400 it is simple as that. You can't recommend the E8400 over the Q9450 other than the lower price of the E8400 if you are on a lower budget.

teddyrob

Ya the Q9450 is better than E8400 if you dont take price into consideration.I didnt say other wise to that did I?And when you are recommending something to someone you are gonna take price into consideration no?

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]So you are saying he should get the E8400 because it is cheaper than the Q9450? What kind of decision making is that. Why not go even cheaper and get the E8200? It is cheaper. I would still spend the extra and get the Q9450. teddyrob

The entire time I have been telling the guy to get the Q6600 and ignore the E8400 cuz the Q6600 will last longer and the guy wants longer lasting hardware.But now I think he should get the Q6700 as he does not want to overclock.

Can you tell how on earth is it worth paying $80 more for Q9450 over a Q6700????

Oh well the makers of crysis told me that it would run betterwith a quad core.That turned out to be BS.The makers told me that it would run better on a 64-bit OS.That turned out to be BS.The makers told me that it would be maxed out with an 8800GTX.That turned out to be BS.LOL do you realise just how fuuny your aboce statement is?Spybot_9

I don't have 64bit OS. I just bought the 32bit OS. I don't have an 8800GTX. I have a Q6600 and 9600GT and I max it out. It runs smoother than my mates E6600 with 8800GT.

I tell you what is funny about your statement. Your spelling. Get personal and you will get owned mate.

Can you tell how on earth is it worth paying $80 more for Q9450 over a Q6700????Spybot_9

He lives in greece. I live in the UK we don't do $. The Q9450 is £30 more than a Q6700. I don't know what they are in Greece.

Q9450 is the better performer. SSE4 instructions and cooler CPU.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_q9450/8.htm

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Oh well the makers of crysis told me that it would run betterwith a quad core.That turned out to be BS.The makers told me that it would run better on a 64-bit OS.That turned out to be BS.The makers told me that it would be maxed out with an 8800GTX.That turned out to be BS.LOL do you realise just how fuuny your aboce statement is?teddyrob

I don't have 64bit OS. I just bought the 32bit OS. I don't have an 8800GTX. I have a Q6600 and 9600GT and I max it out. It runs smoother than my mates E6600 with 8800GT.

I tell you what is funny about your statement. Your spelling. Get personal and you will get owned mate.

And it's obviously a problem in your frineds PC as it should perform better than yours.Dont kid dude,benchmarks speak for themselves.A quad core does not run crysis any better,it's been proven by multiple benchmarks,you can tell your self whatever you want to.Or maybe your GPU is overclocked and his isnt as 8800GT and 9600GT is pretty close anyways.

And where did I get personal?I think you have some real problem.I am done with you.

SO TO BUY 8400 OR 6600;;

I WANT IT ONLY FOR PC GAMES AND NOTHING MORE

SO';

WHAT TO TAKE;;

SO TO BUY 8400 OR 6600;;

I WANT IT ONLY FOR PC GAMES AND NOTHING MORE

SO';

WHAT TO TAKE;;

XARIS19

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Can you tell how on earth is it worth paying $80 more for Q9450 over a Q6700????teddyrob

He lives in greece. I live in the UK we don't do $. The Q9450 is £30 more than a Q6700. I don't know what they are in Greece.

Q9450 is the better performer. SSE4 instructions and cooler CPU.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_q9450/8.htm

SO TO BUY 8400 OR 6600;;

I WANT IT ONLY FOR PC GAMES AND NOTHING MORE

SO';

WHAT TO TAKE;;

XARIS19

Are you on a budget or not and I repeat what I ask you earlier how much do those CPU's cost in Greece? E8400,Q6600 and Q6700 and Q9300 and Q9450?

Where I am the Q6600 is cheapest one. That is why I bought it. I was on a budget. Nobody can decide for you. It is up to you to weigh up the prices and decide which is best for your needs.

I AM IN 8400 AND Q6600

I DONT KNOW OVERCLOCKING

IF I BUY 8400 WILL I BE OK FOR PC GAMES FOR 2 YEARS FROM NOW;;

THIS ONLY I WANT TO KNOW PLEASE;;

LOOK I DONT HAVE PROBLEM TO BUY 6600

THE PROBLEM IS IF I DONT OVERCLOCK THE 6600 WILL I PLAY THE GAMES LIKE 8400;;

BETTER OR SAME ;;

THIS IS MY QUESTION;;

AND I DONT KNOW HOW TO OVERCLOCK

AND ONE MORE SO IF Q6600 IS 4 * 2.4 SO ITS FASTER IN PC GAMES FROM 8400 WHICH IS 3HZ;;

PLEASE;

[QUOTE="teddyrob"]

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Can you tell how on earth is it worth paying $80 more for Q9450 over a Q6700????Spybot_9

He lives in greece. I live in the UK we don't do $. The Q9450 is £30 more than a Q6700. I don't know what they are in Greece.

Q9450 is the better performer. SSE4 instructions and cooler CPU.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_q9450/8.htm

Your answer has nothing to do with my answer to your question. Now this personal thing again. Don't be a prat now. Now where have I said it has to do with gaming? Nowhere that is where. A cooler CPU matters to me and many others as does lower watt usages in an age where we are told to cut back on our carbon footprints. Saves you on your electricity bill maybe save you $80 a year. I see you are recommending Quad core after arguing with me over it. I see I've converted you to the Quad side.

Did I mention more cache to boot. I did now.

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]First of all do you even know that sound processing doesnt even take 1% of CPU power.:?

teddyrob

And how do you know that alan wake wont be GPU bottlenecked.How do you know that a dual core cannot run it's maximum physics settings when a dual core EASILY runs crysis very high physics and particle effects simultaneously??

Spybot_9

And FYI a quad core DOES NOT run higher settings than dual core in lost planet cuz the game is so GPU bottlenecked.The benchmark you have posted is running low settings.Spybot_9

The tests were run in 1024x768 resolution, without FSAA. The image quality settings were left at defaults not low.

Q9450 > E8400 it is simple as that. You can't recommend the E8400 over the Q9450 other than the lower price of the E8400 if you are on a lower budget.

check icestorm fighters from intel is a 3d demo that shows the difference from dual and quad core. Dual cores are only able to run the demo to low physics while quads to high

SO IF I BUY 6600 AND NOT OVERCLOCKING WILL I PLAY ALL THE GAMES LIKE 8400;;

THIS IS MY QUESTION;;

check icestorm fighters from intel is a 3d demo that shows the difference from dual and quad core. Dual cores are only able to run the demo to low physics while quads to highadamosmaki

Yeah It's what I been trying to get over to the dual core brigade "don't blame the CPU because all the games don't utilise all that power"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqmVG47zgvU

That is what I said for Alan Wake the dual will run the physics low to medium while the Quad on high.

SO IF I BUY Q6600 AND NOT OVERCLOCKING WILL I PLAY ALL THE GAMES LIKE E8400;;

THIS IS MY QUESTION;;

XARIS19

Yes you will have no trouble playing all the games. I can guarantee that to you. It will also be future proof.

SO IF I BUY 9450 WHICH IS 2.6 AND NOT OVERCLOKING WILL IT PLAY ALL THE GAMES LIKE 8400 ;;;

WHICH IS 3 HZ;

NOTE IF DONT OVERCLOCK 9450 WILL I PLAY THE GAMES LIKE 8400 WHICH IS 3 HZ;;

3HZ IS FAR FROM 2.6 ;;;;;;

PLEASE;;

CAN YOU EXPLAIN ME PLEASE;

EXAMPLE IF YOU PLAY CRYSIS WITH 9450 WITH OUT OVERCLOCKING WILL IT PLAY GOOD AS 8400;;

BECAUSE 8400 IS 3HZ AND 9450 IS 2.6;;

8400 IS 400 HZ MORE THAT 9450 AM I RIGHT;;

AND ME I THINK THAT 9450 IS FUTURE

BUT FOR THE GAMES NOW WILL PERFORM AS GOOD WITH OC AS 8400;;

TELL ME PLEASE;;

EXAMPLE IF SOMEONE PLAYS CRYSIS WITH 8400

AND SOMEONE PLAYS WITH 9450 WITHOUT OC CRYSIS WILL BE DIFFERENCE IN THA GAME;

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="teddyrob"]

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Can you tell how on earth is it worth paying $80 more for Q9450 over a Q6700????teddyrob

He lives in greece. I live in the UK we don't do $. The Q9450 is £30 more than a Q6700. I don't know what they are in Greece.

Q9450 is the better performer. SSE4 instructions and cooler CPU.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_q9450/8.htm

Your answer has nothing to do with my answer to your question. Now this personal thing again. Don't be a prat now. Now where have I said it has to do with gaming? Nowhere that is where. A cooler CPU matters to me and many others as does lower watt usages in an age where we are told to cut back on our carbon footprints. Saves you on your electricity bill maybe save you $80 a year. I see you are recommending Quad core after arguing with me over it. I see I've converted you to the Quad side.

Did I mention more cache to boot. I did now.

When you will see me defending dual core is when somebody posts wrong info about duals vs quad and tries to overrate a quad.

When you will see me defending dual core is when somebody posts wrong info about duals vs quad and tries to overrate a quad.Spybot_9

Don't blame the Quad CPU blame the games for not utilising all that power.

I would take E6750 and 8800GTS 512MB anyday over your setep.Spybot_9

I'm running a Pentium4 with X1950pro 1GB of ram so yes me too. What is your point?

so if i buy q6600 and without overclocking will it play all the newest games like 8400;;

this is my question;

i see the most people have q6600 and not 8400

look i will go in quad site if you tell me that q6600 qithout overclocking plays all the games like 8400;

example if someone has 8400 and plays games

and one another has q6600 will it be difference between 8400 and 6600

will they perform the game the same or 8400 will it be better litle because it has 3 hz;

\this is my question now;;

when you mean for a while what you mean;;

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you mean for 2 years from now ;;

so if buy 8400 will it hold me for pc games until the end of 2010;

so what you are teling me to do;;

please;;

this you mean;;

and one more;; thing

the most people buy 8400 or q6600;

so if i buy 8400 will hold me 3 years from now;;

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in some hours i will do the buy

so what to buy;;

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and one more thing if you play one game with 8400 and the same game with 6600 will you see diference;;

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You will see the difference See here a 8500 with other quads and dual cores

And the 8400 is just abit slower than the 8500 but by only 160mhz

You will see the difference See here a 8500 with other quads and dual cores

And the 8400 is just abit slower than the 8500 but by only 160mhz

04dcarraher

And the E8400 is better than the X6800 which seems to be pawning the Q6600 and Q6700.

you have right

but they say that supreme comander is for quad cores am i right;;

so you are telling me to buy 8400 with this benchmarks am i right;;

and do you think that 8400 will play games and last me until 2010;;

so its not worth to buy quads am i right;;

so what you think will i be ok until 2010;;

i what the most people have quads or 8400;;

can you tell me please;;

People can be be sucked into the BS about quads at stock speeds unless you run 4 programs at the same time etc.. the 8400 will be fine for two years even with Supreme commander(quads helps with multiplayer and 1000+ units but besides that a 8400 is a good buy.

so you advise me to buy 8400 and it will hold me until 2010 am i right;;

you have right

but they say that supreme comander is for quad cores am i right;;

so you are telling me to buy 8400 with this benchmarks am i right;;

and do you think that 8400 will play games and last me until 2010;;

so its not worth to buy quads am i right;;

so what you think will i be ok until 2010;;

i what the most people have quads or 8400;;

can you tell me please;;

XARIS19

Ok now lets see the situation here shall we.Why do you want your PC to last that long.You were initially buying a Q9450 and 9800GTX.Now if you buy 8800GTS 512MB and E8400,you will save quite alot of money here cant you?

An E8400 is $150 cheaper than the Q9450.When the Q9450 has considerable advantage in games over the E8400,there will at that time certainly be a CPU for $150 that will atleast be on par with the E8400.See what I did there.;)

Now if you are gonna look at this situation like that,then certainly go for the E8400.

so i will buy 8400 after a war with 7 pages

can you give me one site where i can see benchamrks of the newest games with 8400 and another quads please;

do you know any site;;

spybot what you are telling me to do;;

8400

or 9450;;

so i will buy 8400 after a war with 7 pages

can you give me one site where i can see benchamrks of the newest games with 8400 and another quads please;

do you know any site;;

XARIS19

I just showed you some benchmarks on games using 8500 vs quads. Even with SC the dual core performed better. the 8400 is at the very least between the 8500 and QX9650 in performance.

why spybot telling me this thing;

spybot what you are telling me to do;;

8400

or 9450;;

XARIS19

He's saying you choose any choice between Q6600 or 8400 or Q9450 you cant lose.

so 8400 will hold me until 2010 very easy am i right;;XARIS19

Yes it should we cant predict the future and as history tells us dual cores wont be out of gaming requirements for another 3-4 years

when you mean i cant lose what you mean

i dont understand

what it means;

what you mean wont be out for 3 years;;

you mean that the pc games will play for 3 years from now;;

this you mean;;