Alpha Protocol impressions

wait bad graphics? what is wrong with gaming today? bad graphics? seriously there is a great difference between great graphics for what what it does, and then awful graphics that look like big rigs. The frigging game looks good, the graphics are fine enough as it is, nothing ground breaking just good enough.

wait bad graphics? what is wrong with gaming today? bad graphics? seriously there is a great difference between great graphics for what what it does, and then awful graphics that look like big rigs. The frigging game looks good, the graphics are fine enough as it is, nothing ground breaking just good enough.

omenodebander

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Giant Bomb quick look.

Obvious problems, nothing too bad though. Feels a lot like Deus Ex from this video...

dakan45

Especially at the cafe and at those moments that he shoots repeteadly with the pistol and the bad guy runs towards him and bashes him with the rifle

That really surprised me because when I first saw recent gameplay videos I instantly remembered this interview. The interview is from two years ago but he says that the RPG elements of the game wouldn't affect a players ability to aim. Not sure what happened since then but it kind of bums me out. I still plan on getting the game, maybe not on release day though.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Giant Bomb quick look.

Obvious problems, nothing too bad though. Feels a lot like Deus Ex from this video...

dahwnpapaya

Especially at the cafe and at those moments that he shoots repeteadly with the pistol and the bad guy runs towards him and bashes him with the rifle

That really surprised me because when I first saw recent gameplay videos I instantly remembered this interview. The interview is from two years ago but he says that the RPG elements of the game wouldn't affect a players ability to aim. Not sure what happened since then but it kind of bums me out. I still plan on getting the game, maybe not on release day though.

[QUOTE="dahwnpapaya"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Especially at the cafe and at those moments that he shoots repeteadly with the pistol and the bad guy runs towards him and bashes him with the rifle

dakan45

That really surprised me because when I first saw recent gameplay videos I instantly remembered this interview. The interview is from two years ago but he says that the RPG elements of the game wouldn't affect a players ability to aim. Not sure what happened since then but it kind of bums me out. I still plan on getting the game, maybe not on release day though.

Hence the reason the games called an RPG. Seems to me your looking for something more along the lines of a shooter. Contrary to what GT says just because it looks like one it doesn't need to play like one because thats not how the devs intended it.

No the graphics don't look that bad. Why the hell are you so hung up on graphics?

Hence the reason the games called an RPG. Seems to me your looking for something more along the lines of a shooter. Contrary to what GT says just because it looks like one it doesn't need to play like one because thats not how the devs intended it.

No the graphics don't look that bad. Why the hell are you so hung up on graphics?

Ocid1

Then I think you need to look at the interview I posted. And I know I've read/watched more interviews where they said the same thing.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="dahwnpapaya"]

That really surprised me because when I first saw recent gameplay videos I instantly remembered this interview. The interview is from two years ago but he says that the RPG elements of the game wouldn't affect a players ability to aim. Not sure what happened since then but it kind of bums me out. I still plan on getting the game, maybe not on release day though.

Ocid1

Hence the reason the games called an RPG. Seems to me your looking for something more along the lines of a shooter. Contrary to what GT says just because it looks like one it doesn't need to play like one because thats not how the devs intended it.

No the graphics don't look that bad. Why the hell are you so hung up on graphics?

it was suposed to be a shooter mostly and rpg second.

dakan45

Wait, what?

"The espionage RPG"

"RPG"

It's neither supposed to be a shooter or a stealth game. It's an RPG, where both choices are available. This whole mess reminds me of when people dissed Deus Ex because it wasn't a good shooter or a good stealth game (having only played the first level, mind you.)

I planed on buying this game until I watched the review from ytd.

The only good game Obsidian ever developed(and they weren't alone) was KOTOR II.

To everyone who plans on buying the game - watch the review first.

WTF is up with the oversized console-esque reticle?!

Seems to me you were not looking at the previews. and what the user before me said. So save your excuses, it was suposed to be a shooter mostly and rpg second.

dakan45

Well, it wasn't supposed to be a shooter first and rpg second. From early interviews I just thought the developers would have fine tuned the shooter mechanics while adding the rpg elements on top of it(like it was said in the interview). I didn't expect to be able to go in guns blazing and play it like a run and gun shooter, but it would be nice to have my own accuracy count for something. Imo its not a bad thing considering the game is a rpg, just not what I was expecting.

IS this game any good at all??? I see here most people here says that games suck.. Is it worth buying? Will it run on max settings on my athlon x2 4400 8800 gt 512 2gb ram?

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

it was suposed to be a shooter mostly and rpg second.

HenriH-42

Wait, what?

"The espionage RPG"

"RPG"

It's neither supposed to be a shooter or a stealth game. It's an RPG, where both choices are available. This whole mess reminds me of when people dissed Deus Ex because it wasn't a good shooter or a good stealth game (having only played the first level, mind you.)

[QUOTE="Ocid1"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Thats nothing, GT video review shows that even if you can take a headshot, you will miss because the rpg dice randomly say so.

dakan45

Hence the reason the games called an RPG. Seems to me your looking for something more along the lines of a shooter. Contrary to what GT says just because it looks like one it doesn't need to play like one because thats not how the devs intended it.

No the graphics don't look that bad. Why the hell are you so hung up on graphics?

Yes i was looking at previews, recent ones. Doesn't matter what someone said TWO years ago what matters is the product that came out in the end.

If you were to go about basing your gaming purchases or opinions on a game in what you've read in previews you'd be buying nearly everything. Very few previews are actually negative.

Still you haven't explained why the graphics matter just oh so much.

I always base my buys on the previews and reviews that actually show something instead of praising the game. If i did not i will be bashing the game without even knowing that the previews pointed out it was suposed to be like that. Also when did graphics stop to matter? making a linear game with so dated graphics and meh perfomance is by no means a good thing. They just add up to the weak score of the game. Anyway i hope i find myself enjoying the game, but i doubt it.dakan45

WTF is up with the oversized console-esque reticle?!

JackBurton

A fat reticle doesn't make you rage when you miss, it reminds you that bullets aren't lasers. I hated how in Deus Ex the reticle was eventually shrinking to 5 pixels and I missed by four meters.

[QUOTE="dahwnpapaya"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Especially at the cafe and at those moments that he shoots repeteadly with the pistol and the bad guy runs towards him and bashes him with the rifle

dakan45

That really surprised me because when I first saw recent gameplay videos I instantly remembered this interview. The interview is from two years ago but he says that the RPG elements of the game wouldn't affect a players ability to aim. Not sure what happened since then but it kind of bums me out. I still plan on getting the game, maybe not on release day though.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="dahwnpapaya"]

That really surprised me because when I first saw recent gameplay videos I instantly remembered this interview. The interview is from two years ago but he says that the RPG elements of the game wouldn't affect a players ability to aim. Not sure what happened since then but it kind of bums me out. I still plan on getting the game, maybe not on release day though.

Ocid1

Hence the reason the games called an RPG. Seems to me your looking for something more along the lines of a shooter. Contrary to what GT says just because it looks like one it doesn't need to play like one because thats not how the devs intended it.

No the graphics don't look that bad. Why the hell are you so hung up on graphics?

So far on Metacritic -

So far on Metacritic -

Born_Lucky

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

it was suposed to be a shooter mostly and rpg second.

dakan45

Wait, what?

"The espionage RPG"

"RPG"

It's neither supposed to be a shooter or a stealth game. It's an RPG, where both choices are available. This whole mess reminds me of when people dissed Deus Ex because it wasn't a good shooter or a good stealth game (having only played the first level, mind you.)

They said it was going to be an espionage RPG, read the cover of the game.. in interviews they said rpg first and action second.

If it was more action then RPG it would say ACTION espionage on the cover.

Once Nvidia drivers accomodate this game,(SLI support/profiles and such) I will definitely get it, Graphics aren't as important as performance, and gameplay. (though they do have to be decent, and they are decent enough for me.)

Played it for about six hours today, Lazy Saturday, and I have to say..It has it's faults but I do find it fun and that's the important thing. =PTreflis

Nice, good to hear bud. Cant wait to sink into this game on monday.

My buddy who is about 11 hours deep says its a flawed masterpeice (controls and graphics he thought could be better) but great rpg elements, good story and some unique ideas.

Sounds like a fun little rpg to me.

You should post some screenshots in the "WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING?" thread bud, would love to see some more pics :D

I played the game at a friend's house for about an hour and I must say this game doesn't even come close to the RPG standarts.And seriously,espionage?Not much of a spy when enemies see you 50 yards away in the dark and always know where you are when they're alert.And the sensetivity is rather inadjustable.It's either - mouse is to slow when looking arround and normal when aiming or - normal when looking arround and too fast when aiming.It's exactly as the review describes it.Good thing I didn't preorder it.

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Played it for about six hours today, Lazy Saturday, and I have to say..It has it's faults but I do find it fun and that's the important thing. =Pkozzy1234

Nice, good to hear bud. Cant wait to sink into this game on monday.

My buddy who is about 11 hours deep says its a flawed masterpeice (controls and graphics he thought could be better) but great rpg elements, good story and some unique ideas.

Sounds like a fun little rpg to me.

You should post some screenshots in the "WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING?" thread bud, would love to see some more pics :D

I played the game at a friend's house for about an hour and I must say this game doesn't even come close to the RPG standarts.And seriously,espionage?Not much of a spy when enemies see you 50 yards away in the dark and always know where you are when they're alert.And the sensetivity is rather inadjustable.It's either - mouse is to slow when looking arround and normal when aiming or - normal when looking arround and too fast when aiming.It's exactly as the review describes it.Good thing I didn't preorder it.

coreybg

I played the game at a friend's house for about an hour and I must say this game doesn't even come close to the RPG standarts.And seriously,espionage?Not much of a spy when enemies see you 50 yards away in the dark and always know where you are when they're alert.And the sensetivity is rather inadjustable.It's either - mouse is to slow when looking arround and normal when aiming or - normal when looking arround and too fast when aiming.It's exactly as the review describes it.Good thing I didn't preorder it.

coreybg

Good to see that the main people bashing this game are basing their criticisms off its aesthetic mechanics. Means it's not for instant gratification, means it's a brain game. Means it's a game that's actually interesting.

Good to see that the main people bashing this game are basing their criticisms off its aesthetic mechanics. Means it's not for instant gratification, means it's a brain game. Means it's a game that's actually interesting.

Barbariser

[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

Good to see that the main people bashing this game are basing their criticisms off its aesthetic mechanics. Means it's not for instant gratification, means it's a brain game. Means it's a game that's actually interesting.

dakan45

The fact that you think I was talking about the combat tells me a lot about you.

Oh, you meant the "roleplaying" dakan45

That is correct. Based on what I've heard about the RPG aspects, Alpha Protocol is a braingame - which is quite delightful since I've played a grand total of two such RPGs released over the past five years, and neither of those two can stack up to what I've heard about Alpha Protocol when comes it down to the choice aspect.

Depends,if you find interesting the fact that you shoot someone to the head, miss and the the ai runs towards you and start bashing you with their rifles when you are desperetly trying to kill them and they randomly see you when you try to sneak up, which are both something that could be avoided if the shooter and stealth elements were better rather just picking an unreal engine ai and putting rpg skills in it without optimizing the ai to counter act with the rpg gameplay... dakan45

I haven't had a single problem with sneaking up on enemies so far - they don't "randomly" see you if you stay out of their field of vision.

As for the shooting, if you take the time to aim with guns that you're skilled in (and that you've upgraded with decent accuracy/stability-increasing modifications), you won't miss.

I don't know what people are expecting, really. It's an RPG, you shouldn't be able to be a perfect shot with every gun.

[QUOTE="Ocid1"][QUOTE="dakan45"]So what? Like i cant check youtube videos and compare rigs and perfomance there. So no i dont need to play the game to know how it perfoms. Second, the titles on the boxes are usually a mess. Not let me remind you of oblivion or fable. But if devs are gonna be like peter molyneux, full of lies and a diffirent final product, i just dont see reason to be interested in their work since its gonna be lies in the end. Now osbidian says that fallout new vegas is gonna have better gunplay and you will be able to make headshots easier. They can put "rpg" in the title but that wont make it right just because they will lie to us and make the combat more rpgsh when they said otherwise ;) Catch my drift yet?dakan45

No youtube is not the best way to judge performance. Capturing in HD using fraps/whatever they use will kill their framerate somewhat regardless of what their settings are or system they have. They could have a core i7 8gb of RAM and 5850 but if they have they have a slightly slower harddrive then that will affect the quality of video that they end up with. Jankiness, framerate issues etc. etc.

Who are you to say what gives them the right to change the gameplay. Stop getting so hung up on ONE interview from 2 years ago. Are you funding the game? Do you even plan on buying it? For all we know they could have changed their minds the day after that interview.

[QUOTE="coreybg"]

I played the game at a friend's house for about an hour and I must say this game doesn't even come close to the RPG standarts.And seriously,espionage?Not much of a spy when enemies see you 50 yards away in the dark and always know where you are when they're alert.And the sensetivity is rather inadjustable.It's either - mouse is to slow when looking arround and normal when aiming or - normal when looking arround and too fast when aiming.It's exactly as the review describes it.Good thing I didn't preorder it.

Gooeykat

Maybe it's nothing like the review described it to you,but I find it 100% accurate.Also RPG is my favourite genre, so I can tell a good RPG from a bad one.Tell me, can this game be compared to KOTOR,Dragon Age,Mass Effect,Fallout?It doesn't even have open world.The biggest choices you make is whether to kill someone or spare him.If it wasn't glitchy and there were better stealth mechanics I would play it, but seriously, isn't stealth impossible or what?