Batman: AA Demo Impressions - Keep it here in the Batcave!!

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#101 bedram793
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The demo is a bit short, but I think it's very fun. I was impressed.
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#102 Charles_Dickens
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I've got about 12 (and that's not an exaggeration) amazing games on my shelf that I've neglected (I STILL haven't finished Far Cry 2), and what do I do, I spend the day playing with the Batman demo.

Did anybody else notice, in the medical wing, that the intravenous drip, with the blood in it, is actually functioning? When I see detail like that in a game I know that the developer cares a great deal about their software.

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#103 Qixote
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I've been looking forward to this game since I heard about it last year. And from the demo I am relieved that it is living up to expectations. This is shaping up to be the sleeper hit of the year that nobody saw coming just a few short months ago. The gameplay does seem dynamic as advertised. The combination of stealth and combat moves works well. It's refreshing to not have to rely on guns to take down all the enemies. I'm liking it more than the Splinter Cell games so far. The production values are top notch. Now only if the entire game is as good as the demo. .

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#104 jon2jon
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this is basically the game assassins creed should have been. perfect combo of stealth + action. my only annoyance with it is that the gargoyles feel out of place. aren't they usually on the outside of buildings? i don't know how it will be handled in the full game, but it seems kind of simplistic/unrealistic. despite that this is great.

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#105 biggest_loser
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this is basically the game assassins creed should have been. perfect combo of stealth + action. my only annoyance with it is that the gargoyles feel out of place. aren't they usually on the outside of buildings? i don't know how it will be handled in the full game, but it seems kind of simplistic/unrealistic. despite that this is great.

jon2jon
But isn't it to do with the old history of Arkham and what it used to be? Like I read somewhere that there is bit where it used to be a mansion or something.
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#106 gamer082009
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The game will be bogged down with boring repetitious levels. Other than that the games not bad.
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#107 dakan45
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this is basically the game assassins creed should have been. perfect combo of stealth + action. my only annoyance with it is that the gargoyles feel out of place. aren't they usually on the outside of buildings? i don't know how it will be handled in the full game, but it seems kind of simplistic/unrealistic. despite that this is great.

jon2jon
thats true
The game will be bogged down with boring repetitious levels. Other than that the games not bad.gamer082009
thats also true so lets just wait and see.
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#108 crazyfist36
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[QUOTE="crazyfist36"]

[QUOTE="REforever101"]

does anyone know what monster that was, that was released at the end of the demo. it wasn't bane, but i can't recall what villain that is

REforever101

the story invovles weird genetic experiments being conducted at arkham. the beast at the end is the result of such god-play.

oh, so its no famous villain?

nope, not even a lesser known villain.

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#109 kimkim01
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[QUOTE="jon2jon"]

this is basically the game assassins creed should have been. perfect combo of stealth + action. my only annoyance with it is that the gargoyles feel out of place. aren't they usually on the outside of buildings? i don't know how it will be handled in the full game, but it seems kind of simplistic/unrealistic. despite that this is great.

biggest_loser

But isn't it to do with the old history of Arkham and what it used to be? Like I read somewhere that there is bit where it used to be a mansion or something.

That's true, Arkham Asylum used to be a mansion before the owner went insane. It's in one of the Batman graphic novels.

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#110 Qixote
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So after my first time through the demo, I was extremely impressed. A second time through, although I am still generally happy about the game, there are a few concerns. First, I hope that the use of vents to find your away around is not overused. They are obviously placed, and not very secret. This was a big problem in Deus Ex 2. Which leads to my second point, the game holds your hand a bit too much. It often indicates which key to press for every action. Third, for a game that claims to have good physics, no objects in the asylum move, they are all glued to the floor, and you can't interact with anything. Last, I just hope every set piece does not become repetitive (grapple gargoyle, glide attack, wash, rinse, repeat).This game will no doubt get high marks for its theatrics, but the jury is still out on some other things.

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#111 flipin_jackass
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I'll have to wait Tuesday to download since I'm about 2 GB over my download limit. lol. It's nice to hear that the demo is good.
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#112 Charles_Dickens
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The game will be bogged down with boring repetitious levels. Other than that the games not bad.gamer082009
It just depends on what you like or don't like. All games are repetitive. The single most repetitive game on the market right now is Call Of Duty. All you're doing is pulling the trigger and shooting at people. That's it. It's a mindlessly repetitive game. Some people like it though, and can play for hours and hours. Bores the living daylights out of me though.
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#113 Charles_Dickens
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So after my first time through the demo, I was extremely impressed. A second time through, although I am still generally happy about the game, there are a few concerns. First, I hope that the use of vents to find your away around is not overused. They are obviously placed, and not very secret. This was a big problem in Deus Ex 2. Which leads to my second point, the game holds your hand a bit too much. It often indicates which key to press for every action. Third, for a game that claims to have good physics, no objects in the asylum move, they are all glued to the floor, and you can't interact with anything. Last, I just hope every set piece does not become repetitive (grapple gargoyle, glide attack, wash, rinse, repeat).This game will no doubt get high marks for its theatrics, but the jury is still out on some other things.

Qixote
Nice comments. The jury should be out for every demo, however. We're judging the demo here, not the game. It's a great demo, because it makes me want to buy the game.
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#114 mo0ksi
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I was impressed with the demo. The action feels very dynamic, and the game really makes you feel like Batman, and it's probably the first great 3D Batman game I've played. It looks great too, especially with the PhysX effects. It also seems that it might have an intriguing story as well. If the full version is about a dozen hours long, then I'm probably getting it on release.
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#115 biggest_loser
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The game will be bogged down with boring repetitious levels. Other than that the games not bad.gamer082009
I'm amazed that you can come to that conclusion just through those few levels of the demo.
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#116 MrLions
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Downloading it off steam right now :P

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#117 wacko222
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using the detective mode to look at the henchman's current mental state was pretty cool, the combat was fun also
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#118 HaloEleven
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One thing that concerns me about the game is the potential lack of replayability.

Looks pretty linear.

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#119 spiderman120988
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I was impressed with the demo, being a batman fan since I was a child, I've been waiting for a game like this for a LONG time. look forward to it on Sept 15th, along with Resident Evil 5 PC! =D
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#120 GPAddict
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2 Gb for a demo O_O ill passGazaAli

LOL @ people passing on a demo because its 2gb. Just be glad there is a demo! Sheesh!

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One thing that concerns me about the game is the potential lack of replayability. Looks pretty linear.HaloEleven
There have been other games that I've played through repeatedly despite their linear nature simply because the gameplay was fun. I'm thinking of the first Ninja Gaiden on Xbox specifically. I played that game start to finish probably four or five times because the ass kicking never got old. Batman's gameplay has the potential to be similar in that regard.
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#122 Born_Lucky
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The only thing that concerns me is that by having it all take place in the asylum, it makes it seem as if this is a level from a larger game - that you never get to see.

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#123 Charles_Dickens
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The thing that amazes me is how people will pull out the 'it's too linear' argument, or worse, the 'it's too repetitive' argument - and yet these same people will happily ignore that COD 4 is one the most repetitive, linear games ever made.

COD 4 is one long corridor, and is the very definition of linear gameplay: the whole thing is one scripted firefight that takes you by the hand and leads you through an amusement park ride. And its gameplay is completely repetitive: you pull the trigger and you shoot people.

That's it. There's nothing else.

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#124 Meejoe27
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I replayed the demo twice.

The second time i found both hidden trophies and kept reseting the final room, taking the bad guys down in different ways.

I can not wait for the final product.

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#125 jon2jon
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The second time i found both hidden trophies and kept reseting the final room, taking the bad guys down in different ways.

Meejoe27

thsi, i've maybe replayed it 3 times, but at the end i just reload the last checkpoint or let the last guy kill me. because of this, i've found corner takedowns, takedowns through the glass roof, upside down takedowns from gargoyles. and many different silent takedown animations. if there's any others please tell me so i can try them lol.

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#126 Hekynn
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I played the demo and DAMN it was FREAKING AWSOME!!
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#127 Charles_Dickens
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The previews I've been reading suggest that the gameplay itself will become more complex as the game progresses, but that the controls themselves are deliberately simple.

You've got the X button for a punch, the Y button for a counter, and the B button for a stun. The difficulty in the gameplay, it appears, is not going to be in learning all sorts of tricky combos, but rather in determining how to take down the NPCs in a clever manner without alerting them of your presence, or being swarmed by them.

The final area we played in the demo is the starting off newb area. The developer obviously didn't want to overwhelm us with too much to do, and was just giving us a taste of the game and the controls, which is what newb areas are all about. Did anybody here ever play Commandos? There's a bit of that in this game. It's a cross between Riddick, Thief, and Commandos.

I think that the people who are looking for a complex fighting mechanic, such as what you might find in the Devil May Cry series, are looking for something that was never intended by the developer - and that's a shame. People should judge a game on what was provided, rather than on what they wanted. I read too many posts these days in which a person will say that this feature wasn't added, or that that feature wasn't added, when the developer clearly had no intentions of adding those features to begin with.

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#128 Charles_Dickens
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I've played the demo maybe seven or eight times now.

I'm convinced that Batman is the Dead Space of 2009. If you had said to me that one of the best games of the year would be a Batman game from Eidos I would have told you that you were barking mad.

This game has me so excited. In the demo I've just been swiveling the camera around Batman - this is one of the most awesome character models I've ever seen in a PC game. The detail and the clarity is just mind blowing. Day one, for me - there's not doubt about that now.

It's too bad the game wasn't being released on time - it would've been fantastic for the labor day weekend. Oh well, as it is, it's shaping up to be one of the best games of the fall.

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#129 biggest_loser
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The thing that amazes me is how people will pull out the 'it's too linear' argument, or worse, the 'it's too repetitive' argument - and yet these same people will happily ignore that COD 4 is one the most repetitive, linear games ever made.

COD 4 is one long corridor, and is the very definition of linear gameplay: the whole thing is one scripted firefight that takes you by the hand and leads you through an amusement park ride. And its gameplay is completely repetitive: you pull the trigger and you shoot people.

That's it. There's nothing else.

Charles_Dickens
I think you're a tad harsh on the ol' COD4 there - its linear primarily because you're following orders most of the time and the linearity offers a strong cinematic quality that wouldn't be possible in a more open world. And I could say that about 90% of shooters that you just pull the trigger. But I must say I think people are jumping the gun on Batman when they've only seen 3 levels to call it highly repetitive lol.
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#130 biggest_loser
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The only thing that concerns me is that by having it all take place in the asylum, it makes it seem as if this is a level from a larger game - that you never get to see.

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Well the Asylum is on an island so I dont think its just one facility, like apparently there is actually a Batcave on the island.
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Enjoyed the demo, the combat was simple yet entertaining and satisfying. I could see it becoming a bit repetitive, but really slow-mo bat-elbows to the head never get old. The stealth/detective gameplay was done well and allows for a bit of freedom with how to tackle encounters, and the full version will only offer more. I think my favorite thing however was the fact that they got Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to voice Batman and Joker, the originals.

My only real concern is how long the game will be, and replayability. If it's 5 or 6 hours with no replayability i'll wait for it to go on sale. If it's 10-12+ hours this may be my first release day purchase in quite some time.

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Enjoyed the demo, the combat was simple yet entertaining and satisfying. I could see it becoming a bit repetitive, but really slow-mo bat-elbows to the head never get old. The stealth/detective gameplay was done well and allows for a bit of freedom with how to tackle encounters, and the full version will only offer more. I think my favorite thing however was the fact that they got Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to voice Batman and Joker, the originals.

My only real concern is how long the game will be, and replayability. If it's 5 or 6 hours with no replayability i'll wait for it to go on sale. If it's 10-12+ hours this may be my first release day purchase in quite some time.

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12-15 hours apparently my brother.
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#133 biggest_loser
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*Waits for Demo Disc to arrive* - the launcher center on GS is up as well btw.
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#134 Charles_Dickens
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[QUOTE="PTMags"]

Enjoyed the demo, the combat was simple yet entertaining and satisfying. I could see it becoming a bit repetitive, but really slow-mo bat-elbows to the head never get old. The stealth/detective gameplay was done well and allows for a bit of freedom with how to tackle encounters, and the full version will only offer more. I think my favorite thing however was the fact that they got Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to voice Batman and Joker, the originals.

My only real concern is how long the game will be, and replayability. If it's 5 or 6 hours with no replayability i'll wait for it to go on sale. If it's 10-12+ hours this may be my first release day purchase in quite some time.

biggest_loser
12-15 hours apparently my brother.

It's reported to be closer to 30 actually.
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#135 Charles_Dickens
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Check this out.

For those people who fear repetition.

www.gametrailers.com/video/gadgets-trailer-batman-arkham/54109

This game just keeps on looking better and better.

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#136 Charles_Dickens
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One of the early magazine reviews has the editor writing this:

"Every moment feels new, and most of these will leave your jaw on the ground.


Final quote:Batman Arkham Asylum is this year's Bioshock, not just from the connection established with the world, but from its ability to innovate where new ideas are needed, and moreover deliver an adventure unlike any other. Final Score: 95."

Wow. Non-repetitive. Innovative. And outstanding. This is going to be one of the best games of the year - and definitely the sleeper hit, by a country mile.

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#137 PTMags
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="PTMags"]

Enjoyed the demo, the combat was simple yet entertaining and satisfying. I could see it becoming a bit repetitive, but really slow-mo bat-elbows to the head never get old. The stealth/detective gameplay was done well and allows for a bit of freedom with how to tackle encounters, and the full version will only offer more. I think my favorite thing however was the fact that they got Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to voice Batman and Joker, the originals.

My only real concern is how long the game will be, and replayability. If it's 5 or 6 hours with no replayability i'll wait for it to go on sale. If it's 10-12+ hours this may be my first release day purchase in quite some time.

Charles_Dickens

12-15 hours apparently my brother.

It's reported to be closer to 30 actually.

Sweet, I would have settled for 15 but if it's 30 that's a nice surpirze. I did only get it for $6, but beating Mirror's Edge in under 6 hours was a bit of a letdown, considering the game was a refreshing change of pace from your standard fare nowadays. I would have been pretty upset if I paid $50 for it.

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#138 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="PTMags"]

Enjoyed the demo, the combat was simple yet entertaining and satisfying. I could see it becoming a bit repetitive, but really slow-mo bat-elbows to the head never get old. The stealth/detective gameplay was done well and allows for a bit of freedom with how to tackle encounters, and the full version will only offer more. I think my favorite thing however was the fact that they got Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to voice Batman and Joker, the originals.

My only real concern is how long the game will be, and replayability. If it's 5 or 6 hours with no replayability i'll wait for it to go on sale. If it's 10-12+ hours this may be my first release day purchase in quite some time.

Charles_Dickens
12-15 hours apparently my brother.

It's reported to be closer to 30 actually.

Oh okay thank you for this informative information sir!! But is that 30 hours for the campaign or 30 hrs of unlocking secrets etc?
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#139 Jinroh_basic
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wow BL, looks like your Batman thread is going prime time. The Wayne Corporation should pay you for this.

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#140 biggest_loser
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wow BL, looks like your Batman thread is going prime time. The Wayne Corporation should pay you for this.

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They already are!! Didn't you get the memo?! :P (C'mon who didn't see that coming?)
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#141 Charles_Dickens
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This quotation is from G4:

"Of course for the game to actually herald a sense of reprieve it also needs to overcome a legacy of 15 years worth of appalling interactive adaptations of the Dark Knight. Given the amount of game available on the disk(the first 25% of the game clocking in at around 6-7 hours), I'm confident to say that Arkham Asylum is not only on track to be a solid game but may very well reset the bar on what to expect from a superhero title."

So if it took them 7 hours to complete the first quarter of the game, then the computation is a simple one: 7 times 4 = 28 hours.

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This quotation is from G4:

"Of course for the game to actually herald a sense of reprieve it also needs to overcome a legacy of 15 years worth of appalling interactive adaptations of the Dark Knight. Given the amount of game available on the disk(the first 25% of the game clocking in at around 6-7 hours), I'm confident to say that Arkham Asylum is not only on track to be a solid game but may very well reset the bar on what to expect from a superhero title."

So if it took them 7 hours to complete the first quarter of the game, then the computation is a simple one: 7 times 4 = 28 hours.

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Okay thanks. I wasn't doubting you I just wanted to make double sure!! That is good news!
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MIght look into this!
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#144 biggest_loser
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August 15th, 2009: Received final issue of PCPowerPlay magazine. Demo disc did not contain Batman: AA. Continues to wait. Continues to make parallels between self and Nameless from Torment.
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#145 HaloEleven
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Just played the demo on 360. PC version is so much better imo.

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#146 Qixote
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I haven't tried the 360 version. But I have played the PS3 one, and I have to admit I liked it a bit better than the PC. Graphically they were the same, and perhaps a bit more smooth on the PS3. The PC version doesn't have all the graphical extras as claimed (as least not in the demo.) The controls were also a bit better suited for console playing.

Although I want to try the PC one again, but hook up my PC to my 52 inch hdtv. I wonder if my opinion would change.

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#147 dakan45
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The thing that amazes me is how people will pull out the 'it's too linear' argument, or worse, the 'it's too repetitive' argument - and yet these same people will happily ignore that COD 4 is one the most repetitive, linear games ever made.

COD 4 is one long corridor, and is the very definition of linear gameplay: the whole thing is one scripted firefight that takes you by the hand and leads you through an amusement park ride. And its gameplay is completely repetitive: you pull the trigger and you shoot people.

That's it. There's nothing else.

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fear is more repettive..
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#148 KHAndAnime
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This quotation is from G4:

"Of course for the game to actually herald a sense of reprieve it also needs to overcome a legacy of 15 years worth of appalling interactive adaptations of the Dark Knight. Given the amount of game available on the disk(the first 25% of the game clocking in at around 6-7 hours), I'm confident to say that Arkham Asylum is not only on track to be a solid game but may very well reset the bar on what to expect from a superhero title."

So if it took them 7 hours to complete the first quarter of the game, then the computation is a simple one: 7 times 4 = 28 hours.

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G4 is full of ****. This game won't be longer than 20 hours - and if it were - it definitely would be overstaying its welcome.

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#149 OoSuperMarioO
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After playing many Batman games in the past, from watching demo gameplay videos it looks just like another Batman game I've already played. Linear levels with the same old mash em up'. Visually the game looks fantastic, however the gameplay indeed detracts me. I certainly can understand why some gamers are excited for this, but I'm passing on this one. Next stop World Dominance from the outer galatics.

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#150 biggest_loser
Member since 2007 • 24508 Posts

After playing many Batman games in the past, from watching demo gameplay videos it looks just like another Batman game I've already played. Linear levels with the same old mash em up'. Visually the game looks fantastic, however the gameplay indeed detracts me. I certainly can understand why some gamers are excited for this, but I'm passing on this one. Next stop World Dominance from the outer galatics.

OoSuperMarioO
So you still haven't actually played it? If you actually watched the videos carefully you would know that the stealth elements are the most significant element of the game play, not just the same ol' mashe em up.