BF3 PC Patch 1.04 Available Now - Thoughts?

I knifed a dead body (It looked alive :P ) but it never said anybody died and I never got a dogtag.

Yep, without the Origin overlay and lower FoV it works perfectly fine on ultra, might actually play some rounds on the B2K maps sooner or later.DanielDust

[QUOTE="trastamad03"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

Wasdie

The only thing I really agree with the whiners is the lack of VoiP and squad communication functions. I even miss the commander.

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]Downloading now, will hopefully have time to try it out tonight. All I want is improved performance and hit detection/lagultrapc

It's too early for me to make judgements on the balance at the moment. I will say I thought the balance pre patch was perfectly acceptable. Making the tanks weaker will do a few things for the action. Tanks will be slower creeping forward, stay out of highly trafficked infantry areas and be more cautious. They will probably focus more on tanks since they are quick to take down, slower repair now. From the bits I played, people treated tanks as normal, they would go into placecs like the forrest or hilltop on caspian and be disabled very very quickly. Then they would jump out and run away as the tank burned.

Stinger is shortish range but hits choppers well, even after they deploy ECM and sometimes flares... Although if they are low in the sky the stealth thing seems to work really well. Pretty much impossible to hit jets with it though, they move out of range so quickly.

Suppression is a big change, a lot more of it now. So in a 1 v 1 mid range battle it is going to last longer as both players are suppressed and missing each other. Probably not going to be great for TDM, more people will use the SQD cover perk though, virtually no reason to use that before.

About the only changes I can say that is good is the squad command binded to commo rose, not quick spot button (spot a guy near a flag and you give orders previously) and the mini map you can now pick sattelite view. The rest are just changes that I don't think were necessary but people will need to adapt to.

Real quick question: Did the patch add any kind of offline practice mode?

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

Wasdie

People love to whine and cry about every little thing in multiplayer games. Instead of adapting to things, they cry until the devs are forced to make changes and when they finally do, they're not happy either because now they have to adapt to the new things.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

Ben-Buja

People love to whine and cry about every little thing in multiplayer games. Instead of adapting to things, they cry until the devs are forced to make changes and when they finally do, they're not happy either because now they have to adapt to the new things.

Thankfully there are always the stalwart faithful fans who are there to lick the developers' buttholes and tell them how flawless their games are. It all usually balances out.

Two rounds down and I like the improvements. The guns are a lot more difficult to handle. I find myself being a little more hesitant to hold the trigger.

Just try it earlier...tanksprojectiles do the same damage...only that they are easy targets now they blow up so quickly...heli's and jets also...

But i dont know...for some reason...the game is boring...they didnt patched that out :D

P.S> Oh yeah...hit detection sucks big time....still

[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is so much rage on the Battlelog forums, it's really hard to understand if people like it or not.

xLittlekillx

People love to whine and cry about every little thing in multiplayer games. Instead of adapting to things, they cry until the devs are forced to make changes and when they finally do, they're not happy either because now they have to adapt to the new things.

Thankfully there are always the stalwart faithful fans who are there to lick the developers' buttholes and tell them how flawless their games are. It all usually balances out.

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

People love to whine and cry about every little thing in multiplayer games. Instead of adapting to things, they cry until the devs are forced to make changes and when they finally do, they're not happy either because now they have to adapt to the new things.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Thankfully there are always the stalwart faithful fans who are there to lick the developers' buttholes and tell them how flawless their games are. It all usually balances out.

No. I don't have much of an opinion on the game one way or the other. But instead of starting an internet fight with me, could you just answer my question about whether or not the patch added an offline practice mode? Thanks.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

Thankfully there are always the stalwart faithful fans who are there to lick the developers' buttholes and tell them how flawless their games are. It all usually balances out.

xLittlekillx

No. I don't have much of an opinion on the game one way or the other. But instead of starting an internet fight with me, could you just answer my question about whether or not the patch added an offline practice mode? Thanks.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

Thankfully there are always the stalwart faithful fans who are there to lick the developers' buttholes and tell them how flawless their games are. It all usually balances out.

xLittlekillx

No. I don't have much of an opinion on the game one way or the other. But instead of starting an internet fight with me, could you just answer my question about whether or not the patch added an offline practice mode? Thanks.

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] I'm assuming you're one of those whiny haters.SF_KiLLaMaN

No. I don't have much of an opinion on the game one way or the other. But instead of starting an internet fight with me, could you just answer my question about whether or not the patch added an offline practice mode? Thanks.

Thanks for the answer. And the post was aimed at butthole shining fanboys who jump on everybody who has a complaint.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

So, anti-air has been nerfed and tanks are even more useless?

Not gonna bother reinstalling the game to check it out. I'm already angry just reading about it.

with_teeth26

I'm hearing a lot of mixed things.

Apparently the tanks just play differently now and the anti-air is a bit more difficult to use, but apparently a lot of the whining comes from people who do nothing but tank or fly.

I wouldn't just skip it because of what some whiners are flooding the forum with.

I'll skip it because the game infuriates me for no good reason and I doubt this patch will change that.

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="kris9031998"]EA, you f**king idiots. We can now pay to unlock all the items.. Wasdie

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]Confirmed: Next Battlefield having a monthly-fee

Elann2008

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]Confirmed: Next Battlefield having a monthly-fee

Elann2008

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

That's one hell of conclusion.

You could buy the weapons in BC2, or do you not remember that?

Zubinen

How big is said patch? Pretty much over monthly cap and can't be bothered buying MOAR data.

[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] Are you talking about the worthless DLC for outfits and weapons? No one cared about that. With BF3, you can unlock EVERYTHING. What's the point of earning items when the next guy will just start with all weapons unlocked. Take out all the rewarding factors out of the game why don't ya.Elann2008

The new way suppression works has pretty much ruined the game for me. If anyone shoots you within 10 meters, then your suppressed, which will in turn screw up your accuracy and recoil. Im under suppressed fire about 95% of the time now.

Also Tanks are coffins on wheels now. 1 Jav = roughly 80% damage. 2 RPGs = DEAD.

Heat seekers are broken, which is a bug AFAIK but it makes maps with lots of air vehicles impossible to play on.

Battlefield 3 has some strange voodoo over my computer. The day it released my GPU's fan died. Today when the big patch released windows completely broke during updates, forcing me to reinstall it. ::cry:

How big is said patch? Pretty much over monthly cap and can't be bothered buying MOAR data.

October_Tide

I played today after the patch and the only big change I noticed was the engineer's AA. It is a bit hard to get a lock on air vehicles. Doesn't bother me much though.ForsakenWicked

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="Zubinen"] I disagree with all the QQ, the vast majority of good players already had everything unlocked within the first week or so, and if they could enjoy all the unlocks for so long while also being the most proficient at using them, then what's the big deal with most likely bad players spending money to get what can easily be obtained in game? By definition the people who buy the unlocks aren't nearly as "over powered" or what have you as the guys who got the unlocks early on by playing well, so what's the big problem? /QQZubinen

Battlefield 3 has some strange voodoo over my computer. The day it released my GPU's fan died. Today when the big patch released windows completely broke during updates, forcing me to reinstall it. ::cry:

ferret-gamer

I played today after the patch and the only big change I noticed was the engineer's AA. It is a bit hard to get a lock on air vehicles. Doesn't bother me much though.ForsakenWicked

[QUOTE="ForsakenWicked"]I played today after the patch and the only big change I noticed was the engineer's AA. It is a bit hard to get a lock on air vehicles. Doesn't bother me much though.bonafidetk

[QUOTE="October_Tide"]

How big is said patch? Pretty much over monthly cap and can't be bothered buying MOAR data.

bonafidetk

Mmm I can wait until next week.

like you input Zubiuien, the fact that grip now reduced aimed accuracy makes it a unwanted attachement for mah AG3, will go for holosight, bipod and flashsuppressor then :D

like you input Zubiuien, the fact that grip now reduced aimed accuracy makes it a unwanted attachement for mah AG3, will go for holosight, bipod and flashsuppressor then :D

shyco

Battlefield 3 has some strange voodoo over my computer. The day it released my GPU's fan died. Today when the big patch released windows completely broke during updates, forcing me to reinstall it. ::cry:

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="shyco"]

like you input Zubiuien, the fact that grip now reduced aimed accuracy makes it a unwanted attachement for mah AG3, will go for holosight, bipod and flashsuppressor then :D

Zubinen

I feel that I am quite good with the AN94, but struggle with the G3A3, so I guess flash suppressor will be my best option to get the hang of my loved rifle. Used it while I was in the army, even had a 40mm for it, weighed about 3-4 kg with a full clip :D

Played some last night, had a lot of fun. I love the new suppression mechanics, it actually works how I always thought it was supposed to be intended. I really don't know why people complain so much about this patch.

Last night I saw so many people stop when they were getting shot at and try to shoot back. That used to work before the patch and now it just gets you killed. I think that a lot of people think that them not being able to pick off people while under fire removed the "skill" from this game.

In other news the Battlelog forums have gone from bad to worse. It's kind of sad there. So many kids unable to comprehend different gameplay mechanics.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

No. I don't have much of an opinion on the game one way or the other. But instead of starting an internet fight with me, could you just answer my question about whether or not the patch added an offline practice mode? Thanks.

xLittlekillx

Thanks for the answer. And the post was aimed at butthole shining fanboys who jump on everybody who has a complaint.

It's one thing to have a complaint, it's another to be like the Battlelog forums.

There is a good reason the developers don't even go there to get feedback.

Played some last night, had a lot of fun. I love the new suppression mechanics, it actually works how I always thought it was supposed to be intended. I really don't know why people complain so much about this patch.

Last night I saw so many people stop when they were getting shot at and try to shoot back. That used to work before the patch and now it just gets you killed. I think that a lot of people think that them not being able to pick off people while under fire removed the "skill" from this game.

In other news the Battlelog forums have gone from bad to worse. It's kind of sad there. So many kids unable to comprehend different gameplay mechanics.

Wasdie

They are so unwilling to adapt. They complained before cos they sucked and then when they got decent at it the gameplay changes again. They're just whiners.

I think the patch changed a lot about the feel of the game. My shots aren't as accurate as before and I have to think and assess a bit more which I love. I think if you get good at this type of controls then you will be mowing guys down very fast. I even noticed other guys unable to hit me as good as before.

Game is far more balanced and fun to play. I also survived much longer in a jet too without constant lock on beeps

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Played some last night, had a lot of fun. I love the new suppression mechanics, it actually works how I always thought it was supposed to be intended. I really don't know why people complain so much about this patch.

Last night I saw so many people stop when they were getting shot at and try to shoot back. That used to work before the patch and now it just gets you killed. I think that a lot of people think that them not being able to pick off people while under fire removed the "skill" from this game.

In other news the Battlelog forums have gone from bad to worse. It's kind of sad there. So many kids unable to comprehend different gameplay mechanics.

seanmcloughlin

They are so unwilling to adapt. They complained before cos they sucked and then when they got decent at it the gameplay changes again. They're just whiners.

I think the patch changed a lot about the feel of the game. My shots aren't as accurate as before and I have to think and assess a bit more which I love. I think if you get good at this type of controls then you will be mowing guys down very fast. I even noticed other guys unable to hit me as good as before.

Game is far more balanced and fun to play. I also survived much longer in a jet too without constant lock on beeps

I think jets got to much of a buff and tanks to to much of a nerf, but the infantry play is solid. I had no problem with the suppression at all.

People keep saying it leeches skill out of the game, but this game has always been a "who sees who first" kind of game. Especially all of the people playing hardcore.

The commuinty doesn't know what it wants. It doesn't want the game like CoD, but they want laser accurate rifles, no recoil, no suppression, and more cheap tactics like claymores and grenade launchers. Bascially they say one thing and whine about another.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Played some last night, had a lot of fun. I love the new suppression mechanics, it actually works how I always thought it was supposed to be intended. I really don't know why people complain so much about this patch.

Last night I saw so many people stop when they were getting shot at and try to shoot back. That used to work before the patch and now it just gets you killed. I think that a lot of people think that them not being able to pick off people while under fire removed the "skill" from this game.

In other news the Battlelog forums have gone from bad to worse. It's kind of sad there. So many kids unable to comprehend different gameplay mechanics.

Wasdie

They are so unwilling to adapt. They complained before cos they sucked and then when they got decent at it the gameplay changes again. They're just whiners.

I think the patch changed a lot about the feel of the game. My shots aren't as accurate as before and I have to think and assess a bit more which I love. I think if you get good at this type of controls then you will be mowing guys down very fast. I even noticed other guys unable to hit me as good as before.

Game is far more balanced and fun to play. I also survived much longer in a jet too without constant lock on beeps

I think jets got to much of a buff and tanks to to much of a nerf, but the infantry play is solid. I had no problem with the suppression at all.

People keep saying it leeches skill out of the game, but this game has always been a "who sees who first" kind of game. Especially all of the people playing hardcore.

The commuinty doesn't know what it wants. It doesn't want the game like CoD, but they want laser accurate rifles, no recoil, no suppression, and more cheap tactics like claymores and grenade launchers. Bascially they say one thing and whine about another.

They just want like you said, weapons that require no skill to use for cheap kills because most can't get them any other way in head to head infantry combat. They rely on hanging back with mortars, using AT mines or planting cheap claymores

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

They are so unwilling to adapt. They complained before cos they sucked and then when they got decent at it the gameplay changes again. They're just whiners.

I think the patch changed a lot about the feel of the game. My shots aren't as accurate as before and I have to think and assess a bit more which I love. I think if you get good at this type of controls then you will be mowing guys down very fast. I even noticed other guys unable to hit me as good as before.

Game is far more balanced and fun to play. I also survived much longer in a jet too without constant lock on beeps

seanmcloughlin

I think jets got to much of a buff and tanks to to much of a nerf, but the infantry play is solid. I had no problem with the suppression at all.

People keep saying it leeches skill out of the game, but this game has always been a "who sees who first" kind of game. Especially all of the people playing hardcore.

The commuinty doesn't know what it wants. It doesn't want the game like CoD, but they want laser accurate rifles, no recoil, no suppression, and more cheap tactics like claymores and grenade launchers. Bascially they say one thing and whine about another.

They just want like you said, weapons that require no skill to use for cheap kills because most can't get them any other way in head to head infantry combat. They rely on hanging back with mortars, using AT mines or planting cheap claymores

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I think jets got to much of a buff and tanks to to much of a nerf, but the infantry play is solid. I had no problem with the suppression at all.

People keep saying it leeches skill out of the game, but this game has always been a "who sees who first" kind of game. Especially all of the people playing hardcore.

The commuinty doesn't know what it wants. It doesn't want the game like CoD, but they want laser accurate rifles, no recoil, no suppression, and more cheap tactics like claymores and grenade launchers. Bascially they say one thing and whine about another.

trastamad03

They just want like you said, weapons that require no skill to use for cheap kills because most can't get them any other way in head to head infantry combat. They rely on hanging back with mortars, using AT mines or planting cheap claymores

I was going for the L85A2 last night as well. Gotta get it before they fix the no-recoil bug. :P

[QUOTE="trastamad03"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

They just want like you said, weapons that require no skill to use for cheap kills because most can't get them any other way in head to head infantry combat. They rely on hanging back with mortars, using AT mines or planting cheap claymores

Wasdie

I was going for the L85A2 last night as well. Gotta get it before they fix the no-recoil bug. :P

It's low ticket (25) so rounds will fly. You won't win them all, but within 10-12 rounds, you should be able to unlock it. I needed 5 wins, got them all in less than an hour. My squad was full of idiots even.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I think jets got to much of a buff and tanks to to much of a nerf, but the infantry play is solid. I had no problem with the suppression at all.

People keep saying it leeches skill out of the game, but this game has always been a "who sees who first" kind of game. Especially all of the people playing hardcore.

The commuinty doesn't know what it wants. It doesn't want the game like CoD, but they want laser accurate rifles, no recoil, no suppression, and more cheap tactics like claymores and grenade launchers. Bascially they say one thing and whine about another.

trastamad03

They just want like you said, weapons that require no skill to use for cheap kills because most can't get them any other way in head to head infantry combat. They rely on hanging back with mortars, using AT mines or planting cheap claymores

Happens to me all the time. A squad of medics. I revive and heal EVERYONE on my team but when I'm in need they are nowhere to be seen. Standing next to me shooting and healing themselves. But never reviving me or healing me unless it's a by-product of healing themselves.

Pisses me off

mchoghlin, whats yer soldier name? you were irish right? so we ought to be able to play together... what is this with the L82A2 no recoil i hear? :D