DCUO is incredible

Some new, unsurprising review scores courtesy of Metacritic:

Gamespot - 7/10

EuroGamer Italy - 7/10

Gameplanet - 6/10

Here's a post I made two weeks ago before it had been reviewed, at which point I was ridiculed by "Advid-Gamer" just for stating how I felt about the game:
[quote="THA_TODD-BEAST"]Those who don't want the game aren't at all too "cool" for it, they - like me - just experienced the beta first-hand and know that it's little more than another generic action MMO. I'd give the game 7/10 at best. It has some neat concepts and I like that they've made it more than a no-skill click fest, but it's still just not all that great and definitely not far above the other MMO titles out there.THA-TODD-BEAST

Thus far, the majority of review scores are on my side. I guess I can enjoy having the last laugh, right?

So what, and I will do it again. I dont agree with the scores on this game, have well over 100 hrs in it and that has happened with less games then I can count on my fingers.

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

Some new, unsurprising review scores courtesy of Metacritic:

Gamespot - 7/10

EuroGamer Italy - 7/10

Gameplanet - 6/10

Here's a post I made two weeks ago before it had been reviewed, at which point I was ridiculed by "Advid-Gamer" just for stating how I felt about the game:
[quote="THA_TODD-BEAST"]Those who don't want the game aren't at all too "cool" for it, they - like me - just experienced the beta first-hand and know that it's little more than another generic action MMO. I'd give the game 7/10 at best. It has some neat concepts and I like that they've made it more than a no-skill click fest, but it's still just not all that great and definitely not far above the other MMO titles out there.Advid-Gamer

Thus far, the majority of review scores are on my side. I guess I can enjoy having the last laugh, right?

So what, and I will do it again. I dont agree with the scores on this game, have well over 100 hrs in it and that has happened with less games then I can count on my fingers.

Great to see you love it.... I wish I could of....

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

Some new, unsurprising review scores courtesy of Metacritic:

Gamespot - 7/10

EuroGamer Italy - 7/10

Gameplanet - 6/10

Here's a post I made two weeks ago before it had been reviewed, at which point I was ridiculed by "Advid-Gamer" just for stating how I felt about the game:
[quote="THA_TODD-BEAST"]Those who don't want the game aren't at all too "cool" for it, they - like me - just experienced the beta first-hand and know that it's little more than another generic action MMO. I'd give the game 7/10 at best. It has some neat concepts and I like that they've made it more than a no-skill click fest, but it's still just not all that great and definitely not far above the other MMO titles out there.Advid-Gamer

Thus far, the majority of review scores are on my side. I guess I can enjoy having the last laugh, right?

So what, and I will do it again. I dont agree with the scores on this game, have well over 100 hrs in it and that has happened with less games then I can count on my fingers.

:lol:

What is it about this game that even warrants that type of a response? Really, what does it do that's so captivating?

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

Some new, unsurprising review scores courtesy of Metacritic:

Gamespot - 7/10

EuroGamer Italy - 7/10

Gameplanet - 6/10

Here's a post I made two weeks ago before it had been reviewed, at which point I was ridiculed by "Advid-Gamer" just for stating how I felt about the game:
[quote="THA_TODD-BEAST"]Those who don't want the game aren't at all too "cool" for it, they - like me - just experienced the beta first-hand and know that it's little more than another generic action MMO. I'd give the game 7/10 at best. It has some neat concepts and I like that they've made it more than a no-skill click fest, but it's still just not all that great and definitely not far above the other MMO titles out there.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Thus far, the majority of review scores are on my side. I guess I can enjoy having the last laugh, right?

Then again when was the last time a full-fledged MMO scored 8/10 or higher across the board since WoW (not including its exp. packs)?

Warhammer Online in 2008. In 2007, Lord of the Rings Online. I'm not sure of others.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

Some new, unsurprising review scores courtesy of Metacritic:

Gamespot - 7/10

EuroGamer Italy - 7/10

Gameplanet - 6/10

Here's a post I made two weeks ago before it had been reviewed, at which point I was ridiculed by "Advid-Gamer" just for stating how I felt about the game:
[quote="THA_TODD-BEAST"]Those who don't want the game aren't at all too "cool" for it, they - like me - just experienced the beta first-hand and know that it's little more than another generic action MMO. I'd give the game 7/10 at best. It has some neat concepts and I like that they've made it more than a no-skill click fest, but it's still just not all that great and definitely not far above the other MMO titles out there.THA-TODD-BEAST

Thus far, the majority of review scores are on my side. I guess I can enjoy having the last laugh, right?

Then again when was the last time a full-fledged MMO scored 8/10 or higher across the board since WoW (not including its exp. packs)?

Warhammer Online in 2008. In 2007, Lord of the Rings Online. I'm not sure of others.

Ahhh LOTRO, what an awesome MMORPG.

If only I had the time to play it again... The level where you gotta go through that dark forest at the start....awesome....

Sorry, but a 7.0 is far from incredible.

Another thing: why are you guys so eager to see it fail? Do you have a financial stake in its competitors or something?the_ChEeSe_mAn2

It feels good to know that you're right when you've been ridiculed by several fanboys of the game. The numerous 6 and 7/10 reviews brought a smile to my face because it proved that I was indeed correct and the game is really nothing special at this time. With patches and updates I'm sure it can be improved, but as it stands DC Universe Online is a generic MMO in a sea of other generic MMOs.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Another thing: why are you guys so eager to see it fail? Do you have a financial stake in its competitors or something?THA-TODD-BEAST

It feels good to know that you're right when you've been ridiculed by several fanboys of the game. The numerous 6 and 7/10 reviews brought a smile to my face because it proved that I was indeed correct and the game is really nothing special at this time. With patches and updates I'm sure it can be improved, but as it stands DC Universe Online is a generic MMO in a sea of other generic MMOs.

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Another thing: why are you guys so eager to see it fail? Do you have a financial stake in its competitors or something?the_ChEeSe_mAn2

It feels good to know that you're right when you've been ridiculed by several fanboys of the game. The numerous 6 and 7/10 reviews brought a smile to my face because it proved that I was indeed correct and the game is really nothing special at this time. With patches and updates I'm sure it can be improved, but as it stands DC Universe Online is a generic MMO in a sea of other generic MMOs.

I've heard it DESTROYS Champions Online, and compares with City of Heroes quite nicely.

CaptainAhab13

IMO the reviews for this game have been written by dummies stuck in WoW combat land.

From PC Gamer: "Other than that, DCUO has had one of the smoothest, strongest MMO launches to date, and it's action-oriented design is a bold step out of WoW's shadow. From the consistently clever boss fights to the daily activities to the points-of-interest around the world, it makes it look effortless to create interesting activities to amuse players and immerse them in the game's world. Assuming SOE can deliver on its promise to consistently release monthly content updates, DCUO will be a promising leader in an exciting new generation of diverse MMOs."

I feel like they are the only ones who "get it". That said, some people will never "get it" because they don't like "it" (twitchy MMO combat)

[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]

I've heard it DESTROYS Champions Online, and compares with City of Heroes quite nicely.

haberman13

IMO the reviews for this game have been written by dummies stuck in WoW combat land.

From PC Gamer: "Other than that, DCUO has had one of the smoothest, strongest MMO launches to date, and it's action-oriented design is a bold step out of WoW's shadow. From the consistently clever boss fights to the daily activities to the points-of-interest around the world, it makes it look effortless to create interesting activities to amuse players and immerse them in the game's world. Assuming SOE can deliver on its promise to consistently release monthly content updates, DCUO will be a promising leader in an exciting new generation of diverse MMOs."

I feel like they are the only ones who "get it". That said, some people will never "get it" because they don't like "it" (twitchy MMO combat)

why do some of us care so much? because it is a big "I TOLD YOU SO" to everyone that was bashing us earlier when we said the game was dull and generic. those that played the beta saw it pretty quickly, tried to warn the rest of you, and all you did was bash us and scream "NUH UUUUUH". well..... we told you so. hope you enjoy your 3 weeks of content and generic/tired gameplay.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]

I've heard it DESTROYS Champions Online, and compares with City of Heroes quite nicely.

Roland123_basic

IMO the reviews for this game have been written by dummies stuck in WoW combat land.

From PC Gamer: "Other than that, DCUO has had one of the smoothest, strongest MMO launches to date, and it's action-oriented design is a bold step out of WoW's shadow. From the consistently clever boss fights to the daily activities to the points-of-interest around the world, it makes it look effortless to create interesting activities to amuse players and immerse them in the game's world. Assuming SOE can deliver on its promise to consistently release monthly content updates, DCUO will be a promising leader in an exciting new generation of diverse MMOs."

I feel like they are the only ones who "get it". That said, some people will never "get it" because they don't like "it" (twitchy MMO combat)

why do some of us care so much? because it is a big "I TOLD YOU SO" to everyone that was bashing us earlier when we said the game was dull and generic. those that played the beta saw it pretty quickly, tried to warn the rest of you, and all you did was bash us and scream "NUH UUUUUH". well..... we told you so. hope you enjoy your 3 weeks of content and generic/tired gameplay.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]

I've heard it DESTROYS Champions Online, and compares with City of Heroes quite nicely.

Roland123_basic

IMO the reviews for this game have been written by dummies stuck in WoW combat land.

From PC Gamer: "Other than that, DCUO has had one of the smoothest, strongest MMO launches to date, and it's action-oriented design is a bold step out of WoW's shadow. From the consistently clever boss fights to the daily activities to the points-of-interest around the world, it makes it look effortless to create interesting activities to amuse players and immerse them in the game's world. Assuming SOE can deliver on its promise to consistently release monthly content updates, DCUO will be a promising leader in an exciting new generation of diverse MMOs."

I feel like they are the only ones who "get it". That said, some people will never "get it" because they don't like "it" (twitchy MMO combat)

why do some of us care so much? because it is a big "I TOLD YOU SO" to everyone that was bashing us earlier when we said the game was dull and generic. those that played the beta saw it pretty quickly, tried to warn the rest of you, and all you did was bash us and scream "NUH UUUUUH". well..... we told you so. hope you enjoy your 3 weeks of content and generic/tired gameplay.

I dissagree, while I have not played the game yet, I have seen on tons of forums that people love the game, seems like most the people who dont like it are addicted to WOW.

I cant wait to give this game a shot, overall I have heard very positive things. I dont read reviews much, but I like checking user reviews a bit more. The overall thoughts on the game ive found have been overall positive and alot of peopel surprised by how fun it is.

And the whole "I TOLD YOU SO" is a bit immature imo, there are people enjoying it, the whole TOLD YOU SO thing wont work against people enjoying it already.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

[QUOTE="haberman13"] Destroys both. This is a genre evolving game, which I would argue the "console" forced them to create, with splendid results. Spreadsheet simulators are dead (WoW) IMO, DCUO is the new "way" for an MMO combat to unfold. Its freakin' awesome mate.

IMO the reviews for this game have been written by dummies stuck in WoW combat land.

From PC Gamer: "Other than that, DCUO has had one of the smoothest, strongest MMO launches to date, and it's action-oriented design is a bold step out of WoW's shadow. From the consistently clever boss fights to the daily activities to the points-of-interest around the world, it makes it look effortless to create interesting activities to amuse players and immerse them in the game's world. Assuming SOE can deliver on its promise to consistently release monthly content updates, DCUO will be a promising leader in an exciting new generation of diverse MMOs."

I feel like they are the only ones who "get it". That said, some people will never "get it" because they don't like "it" (twitchy MMO combat)

kozzy1234

why do some of us care so much? because it is a big "I TOLD YOU SO" to everyone that was bashing us earlier when we said the game was dull and generic. those that played the beta saw it pretty quickly, tried to warn the rest of you, and all you did was bash us and scream "NUH UUUUUH". well..... we told you so. hope you enjoy your 3 weeks of content and generic/tired gameplay.

I dissagree, while I have not played the game yet, I have seen on tons of forums that people love the game, seems like most the people who dont like it are addicted to WOW.

I cant wait to give this game a shot, overall I have heard very positive things. I dont read reviews much, but I like checking user reviews a bit more.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]

I've heard it DESTROYS Champions Online, and compares with City of Heroes quite nicely.

Roland123_basic

IMO the reviews for this game have been written by dummies stuck in WoW combat land.

From PC Gamer: "Other than that, DCUO has had one of the smoothest, strongest MMO launches to date, and it's action-oriented design is a bold step out of WoW's shadow. From the consistently clever boss fights to the daily activities to the points-of-interest around the world, it makes it look effortless to create interesting activities to amuse players and immerse them in the game's world. Assuming SOE can deliver on its promise to consistently release monthly content updates, DCUO will be a promising leader in an exciting new generation of diverse MMOs."

I feel like they are the only ones who "get it". That said, some people will never "get it" because they don't like "it" (twitchy MMO combat)

why do some of us care so much? because it is a big "I TOLD YOU SO" to everyone that was bashing us earlier when we said the game was dull and generic. those that played the beta saw it pretty quickly, tried to warn the rest of you, and all you did was bash us and scream "NUH UUUUUH". well..... we told you so. hope you enjoy your 3 weeks of content and generic/tired gameplay.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Another thing: why are you guys so eager to see it fail? Do you have a financial stake in its competitors or something?THA-TODD-BEAST

It feels good to know that you're right when you've been ridiculed by several fanboys of the game. The numerous 6 and 7/10 reviews brought a smile to my face because it proved that I was indeed correct and the game is really nothing special at this time. With patches and updates I'm sure it can be improved, but as it stands DC Universe Online is a generic MMO in a sea of other generic MMOs.

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Another thing: why are you guys so eager to see it fail? Do you have a financial stake in its competitors or something?Advid-Gamer

It feels good to know that you're right when you've been ridiculed by several fanboys of the game. The numerous 6 and 7/10 reviews brought a smile to my face because it proved that I was indeed correct and the game is really nothing special at this time. With patches and updates I'm sure it can be improved, but as it stands DC Universe Online is a generic MMO in a sea of other generic MMOs.

It looks like PC Gamer gave it an 88% (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/01/26/dc-universe-online-review/)

It's interesting to see how big the difference is from one review to another. Going from 40% on one site to 88% on another, it seems pretty obvious that it's not just a question of whether the game is good or bad, but rather a question of some people finding the somewhat different take on the genre to be a good or a bad thing.

I think the next 2-3 patches are going to really make or break the game. If they can move quickly and get more high-level content, fix some of the more glaring bugs and improve the UI, I think DCUO could do very well. The game does offer a good foundation to expand with more area, more content more bad guys more 'mmo stuff'. The big question will be how long it takes before that starts to appear.

It looks like PC Gamer gave it an 88% (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/01/26/dc-universe-online-review/)

It's interesting to see how big the difference is from one review to another. Going from 40% on one site to 88% on another, it seems pretty obvious that it's not just a question of whether the game is good or bad, but rather a question of some people finding the somewhat different take on the genre to be a good or a bad thing.

I think the next 2-3 patches are going to really make or break the game. If they can move quickly and get more high-level content, fix some of the more glaring bugs and improve the UI, I think DCUO could do very well. The game does offer a good foundation to expand with more area, more content more bad guys more 'mmo stuff'. The big question will be how long it takes before that starts to appear.

Mazoch

Read PC Gamers review, and then GBs ... prepare to laugh and lose repect for GB.

This is the first review I will acknowledge as non-noob written: played, thought out and then reviewed.

They 'get' the combat, GB failed miserablly to grasp what the combat is. The UI is terrible, beyond terrible even, but the game is a gem.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

[QUOTE="haberman13"] Destroys both. This is a genre evolving game, which I would argue the "console" forced them to create, with splendid results. Spreadsheet simulators are dead (WoW) IMO, DCUO is the new "way" for an MMO combat to unfold. Its freakin' awesome mate.

IMO the reviews for this game have been written by dummies stuck in WoW combat land.

From PC Gamer: "Other than that, DCUO has had one of the smoothest, strongest MMO launches to date, and it's action-oriented design is a bold step out of WoW's shadow. From the consistently clever boss fights to the daily activities to the points-of-interest around the world, it makes it look effortless to create interesting activities to amuse players and immerse them in the game's world. Assuming SOE can deliver on its promise to consistently release monthly content updates, DCUO will be a promising leader in an exciting new generation of diverse MMOs."

I feel like they are the only ones who "get it". That said, some people will never "get it" because they don't like "it" (twitchy MMO combat)

haberman13

why do some of us care so much? because it is a big "I TOLD YOU SO" to everyone that was bashing us earlier when we said the game was dull and generic. those that played the beta saw it pretty quickly, tried to warn the rest of you, and all you did was bash us and scream "NUH UUUUUH". well..... we told you so. hope you enjoy your 3 weeks of content and generic/tired gameplay.

[QUOTE="haberman13"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] other than the very intense fanboys of the game.... most people are actually saying the combat is dull and uninspired as you gain levels.... which is exactly what i experienced in beta. seems awesome at first, gets incredibly repetitive later.

why do some of us care so much? because it is a big "I TOLD YOU SO" to everyone that was bashing us earlier when we said the game was dull and generic. those that played the beta saw it pretty quickly, tried to warn the rest of you, and all you did was bash us and scream "NUH UUUUUH". well..... we told you so. hope you enjoy your 3 weeks of content and generic/tired gameplay.

Roland123_basic

I disagree. Not only so I find the combat to be quite enjoyable, I like that it's diffrent from 90% of the other MMO's out there. Not that I hate the traditional MMO style combat, but EQ has been out for over 10 years now, a little diversity is welcome imho.

If you read most of the reviews out there, a lot of people are enjoying the combat and the action element. The aspects that seem to cause most of the complaints are the low amount of high level content, poor UI and the problems with chat and voice.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="haberman13"] I am, and will continue to. Thank you sir. I think you missed how to play the game if you think combat is dull. Too many folks trying this and expecting WoW + superheroes. Its not: think diablo + infamous + GTA + WoW :shrug:Mazoch

I disagree. Not only so I find the combat to be quite enjoyable, I like that it's diffrent from 90% of the other MMO's out there. Not that I hate the traditional MMO style combat, but EQ has been out for over 10 years now, a little diversity is welcome imho.

If you read most of the reviews out there, a lot of people are enjoying the combat and the action element. The aspects that seem to cause most of the complaints are the low amount of high level content, poor UI and the problems with chat and voice.

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] the combat is nothing like any of those games.... sorry. it is a generic, dull click fest. face it, the game isnt good. i expect it will be dead in another month or two.Roland123_basic

I disagree. Not only so I find the combat to be quite enjoyable, I like that it's diffrent from 90% of the other MMO's out there. Not that I hate the traditional MMO style combat, but EQ has been out for over 10 years now, a little diversity is welcome imho.

If you read most of the reviews out there, a lot of people are enjoying the combat and the action element. The aspects that seem to cause most of the complaints are the low amount of high level content, poor UI and the problems with chat and voice.

It sounds like you're not reading a lot of the reviews out there. Go back and read GameSpots review again:

"Action-packed combat is fun from the start"

"But it's the way DCUO mixes action-game sensibilities with traditional role-playing progression that makes it immediately enjoyable. If you're a seasoned role-player you'll find it refreshing as well--but only to a point."

"This is an action game in online role-playing form. When you press a button on your controller or mouse, you swing your blade, shoot your bow, or fire your rifle. There is the slightest amount of latency between your actions and the ones onscreen, but it's not enough to diminish the immediacy of battle."

"DCUO's directness makes it fun for almost anyone from the get-go and a refreshing change of pace from typical entries in the genre."

I played the beta and enjoyed the game. I'm playing it now and I'm still enjoying it. I disagree that the combat is 'dull' and with one or two exceptions so does most of the reviews out there. That dosent mean that the game is without flaws, but generally the game is getting a good deal of praise for it's combat system.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

It feels good to know that you're right when you've been ridiculed by several fanboys of the game. The numerous 6 and 7/10 reviews brought a smile to my face because it proved that I was indeed correct and the game is really nothing special at this time. With patches and updates I'm sure it can be improved, but as it stands DC Universe Online is a generic MMO in a sea of other generic MMOs.

haberman13

LOL, that made me laugh.... as if DCUO is a revolution in MMO gaming...

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Another thing: why are you guys so eager to see it fail? Do you have a financial stake in its competitors or something?Advid-Gamer

It feels good to know that you're right when you've been ridiculed by several fanboys of the game. The numerous 6 and 7/10 reviews brought a smile to my face because it proved that I was indeed correct and the game is really nothing special at this time. With patches and updates I'm sure it can be improved, but as it stands DC Universe Online is a generic MMO in a sea of other generic MMOs.

It's OK to be angry. You can't always win.

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] The fact that we get suspended or banned for want i want to say makes it impossible to respond to you.Roland123_basic

It's OK to be angry. You can't always win.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

It's OK to be angry. You can't always win.

Advid-Gamer

1- If you like it then great, I wish I could enjoy it like you.

2- If you like it then great, but don't say it's the next coming of Jesus and that it's better than WoW or GW or whatever. With more content, and maybe a few adjustments it might turn into a good MMO, but the game has only been out for 2 weeks....so it's IMPOSSIBLE to compare it to WoW which has 3 expansions and 7 years behind it. I still consider WoW more fun when you first start, but that's probably just me.

3- If you don't like the community here, then don't post, simple.

4- Time will tell with DCUO, hopefully it gets better cause I still want to play it...

Its cool if you don't like it, no game can appeal to everyone. This game is an MMO revolution in my opinion, only Tera and GW2 have *hinted* at providing an MMO that breaks the "spreadsheet" comparative style gameplay.

You actively: attack/dodge/block/deflect

That is different from other MMOs, and engages the player in a way that defies previous convention. I understand that a lot of you are X WoW-ers etc. that have a hard time with change, I get it, but all new MMOs are going to be like this.

Why haven't we seen this in the past? Bandwidth, and CPU/RAM capacity. Believe me, if Blizzard could have pulled this style of combat off 6 years ago they would have, expect Titan to be similar. If you find lack of depth in this system, which is defined by active involvement in traditionally passive reactions, then you have missed the ball so to speak.

I love it. Embrace la revolucion!

Only SP games have provided this level of interaction with combat/world objects; granted, it isn't up to SP standards, but its a start.

Its cool if you don't like it, no game can appeal to everyone. This game is an MMO revolution in my opinion, only Tera and GW2 have *hinted* at providing an MMO that breaks the "spreadsheet" comparative style gameplay.

You actively: attack/dodge/block/deflect

That is different from other MMOs, and engages the player in a way that has defied previous convention. I understand that a lot of you are X WoW-ers etc. that have a hard time with change, I get it, but all new MMOs are going to be like this.

I love it. Embrace la revolucion!

haberman13

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

Its cool if you don't like it, no game can appeal to everyone. This game is an MMO revolution in my opinion, only Tera and GW2 have *hinted* at providing an MMO that breaks the "spreadsheet" comparative style gameplay.

You actively: attack/dodge/block/deflect

That is different from other MMOs, and engages the player in a way that has defied previous convention. I understand that a lot of you are X WoW-ers etc. that have a hard time with change, I get it, but all new MMOs are going to be like this.

I love it. Embrace la revolucion!

FelipeInside

Ok, let me explain, as I have run into many "button mashers" who i promptly smash into the ground.

You have power and super power, power is used for normal skills; you generate power by doing "combos" [example: left click, right click, left tap, left hold, right click] after generating enough power you can use "skills" [example: aoe heal, ice block enemies, etc] using these skills generate "superpower" which in turn unlock the next "tier" of skills [example: aoe root 8 enemies].

Ok, so, to maximize damage, you are doing combos, skills, and blowing superpowers. On top of that you are dodging, manually, incoming attacks; if you are a tank you are blocking, manually.

Beyond that: group dynamics - 4 key roles: tank/healer/controller/dps

They form a cohesion which generates enough health/mitigation/damage/energy regen to overcome the encounter.

So, there is your revolution, active combat with the addition of a 4th role into the "trinity". Combine that with 5 trees per character, skill points continuing to gather after 30 via achiev unlocks and you have yourself one crazy MMO fit to dominate the world. You're complaints about the UI are warranted, certainly, but that kind of misses the point with an MMO doesn't it? These games are actively managed/planned/patched, change can happen, and certainly will. Why miss a gem because there is a spec of dirt?

If you don't get that, I understand, some things go beyond the common man; we can't all be 'super', well, unless you get the game; then we're all super duper.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

Its cool if you don't like it, no game can appeal to everyone. This game is an MMO revolution in my opinion, only Tera and GW2 have *hinted* at providing an MMO that breaks the "spreadsheet" comparative style gameplay.

You actively: attack/dodge/block/deflect

That is different from other MMOs, and engages the player in a way that has defied previous convention. I understand that a lot of you are X WoW-ers etc. that have a hard time with change, I get it, but all new MMOs are going to be like this.

I love it. Embrace la revolucion!

haberman13

Ok, let me explain, as I have run into many "button mashers" who i promptly smash into the ground.

You have power and super power, power is used for normal skills; you generate power by doing "combos" [example: left click, right click, left tap, left hold, right click] after generating enough power you can use "skills" [example: aoe heal, ice block enemies, etc] using these skills generate "superpower" which in turn unlock the next "tier" of skills [example: aoe root 8 enemies].

Ok, so, to maximize damage, you are doing combos, skills, and blowing superpowers. On top of that you are dodging, manually, incoming attacks; if you are a tank you are blocking, manually.

Beyond that: group dynamics - 4 key roles: tank/healer/controller/dps

They form a cohesion which generates enough health/mitigation/damage/energy regen to overcome the encounter.

So, there is your revolution, active combat with the addition of a 4th role into the "trinity". Combine that with 5 trees per character, skill points continuing to gather after 30 via achiev unlocks and you have yourself one crazy MMO fit to dominate the world. You're complaints about the UI are warranted, certainly, but that kind of misses the point with an MMO doesn't it? These games are actively managed/planned/patched, change can happen, and certainly will. Why miss a gem because there is a spec of dirt?

If you don't get that, I understand, some things go beyond the common man; we can't all be 'super', well, unless you get the game; then we're all super duper.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

condescending much? see this is what happens when people start to realize they are wrong about something.... they go from trying to propose a solid argument to just trying to put people down...Roland123_basic

Was it? Sorry, just being jocular, no offense intended.

edit: Other than the last line, which is pure joke based on the game, I think you need to lookup the term condescending; that was simply an explanation of the game mechanics, and why felix was missing the mechanics. (at least that is what I conclude from his button masher statement)

Wrong about what? I clearly defined why it was a revolution of MMO design. Do you contest that? Where are the paragraphs explaining why I'm wrong.

You sir, are wrong, or at least unwilling to make a reasonable explanation as to why I am wrong. Ad hominem ftl.

condescending much? see this is what happens when people start to realize they are wrong about something.... they go from trying to propose a solid argument to just trying to put people down...Roland123_basic

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

It's OK to be angry. You can't always win.

Advid-Gamer

This coming from the guy who rushes into every DC Universe Online thread in which users are stating they dislike the game and bashes them, accusing them of being World of Warcraft fanboys and idiots. Pot calling the kettle black, much?

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

Its cool if you don't like it, no game can appeal to everyone. This game is an MMO revolution in my opinion, only Tera and GW2 have *hinted* at providing an MMO that breaks the "spreadsheet" comparative style gameplay.

You actively: attack/dodge/block/deflect

That is different from other MMOs, and engages the player in a way that has defied previous convention. I understand that a lot of you are X WoW-ers etc. that have a hard time with change, I get it, but all new MMOs are going to be like this.

I love it. Embrace la revolucion!

haberman13

Ok, let me explain, as I have run into many "button mashers" who i promptly smash into the ground.

You have power and super power, power is used for normal skills; you generate power by doing "combos" [example: left click, right click, left tap, left hold, right click] after generating enough power you can use "skills" [example: aoe heal, ice block enemies, etc] using these skills generate "superpower" which in turn unlock the next "tier" of skills [example: aoe root 8 enemies].

Ok, so, to maximize damage, you are doing combos, skills, and blowing superpowers. On top of that you are dodging, manually, incoming attacks; if you are a tank you are blocking, manually.

Beyond that: group dynamics - 4 key roles: tank/healer/controller/dps

They form a cohesion which generates enough health/mitigation/damage/energy regen to overcome the encounter.

So, there is your revolution, active combat with the addition of a 4th role into the "trinity". Combine that with 5 trees per character, skill points continuing to gather after 30 via achiev unlocks and you have yourself one crazy MMO fit to dominate the world. You're complaints about the UI are warranted, certainly, but that kind of misses the point with an MMO doesn't it? These games are actively managed/planned/patched, change can happen, and certainly will. Why miss a gem because there is a spec of dirt?

If you don't get that, I understand, some things go beyond the common man; we can't all be 'super', well, unless you get the game; then we're all super duper.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]condescending much? see this is what happens when people start to realize they are wrong about something.... they go from trying to propose a solid argument to just trying to put people down...millerlight89

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] indeed... being angry, for some, is a natural response to being proven wrong about something. so its ok to be angry avid... we all know you have egg on your face atm.THA-TODD-BEAST

This coming from the guy who rushes into every DC Universe Online thread in which users are stating they dislike the game and bashes them, accusing them of being World of Warcraft fanboys and idiots. Pot calling the kettle black, much?

Thanks for summing it up for me.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I don't have an issue with change, I love for an MMO to come along and bring something NEW.....it's just that DC DOESN'T and isn't the one. What revolution do you see in DC that I am missing? If it's the ACTIVE REAL-TIME combat then sorry, it isn't the first MMO to do that. It has repetitive quests, IN THE FIRST HOUR.... the UI is shocking, the social tools are consolized and non-existent.... and the gameplay is most of the time a button smasher. Someone please enlighten me and show me the REVOLUTION....Roland123_basic

Ok, let me explain, as I have run into many "button mashers" who i promptly smash into the ground.

You have power and super power, power is used for normal skills; you generate power by doing "combos" [example: left click, right click, left tap, left hold, right click] after generating enough power you can use "skills" [example: aoe heal, ice block enemies, etc] using these skills generate "superpower" which in turn unlock the next "tier" of skills [example: aoe root 8 enemies].

Ok, so, to maximize damage, you are doing combos, skills, and blowing superpowers. On top of that you are dodging, manually, incoming attacks; if you are a tank you are blocking, manually.

Beyond that: group dynamics - 4 key roles: tank/healer/controller/dps

They form a cohesion which generates enough health/mitigation/damage/energy regen to overcome the encounter.

So, there is your revolution, active combat with the addition of a 4th role into the "trinity". Combine that with 5 trees per character, skill points continuing to gather after 30 via achiev unlocks and you have yourself one crazy MMO fit to dominate the world. You're complaints about the UI are warranted, certainly, but that kind of misses the point with an MMO doesn't it? These games are actively managed/planned/patched, change can happen, and certainly will. Why miss a gem because there is a spec of dirt?

If you don't get that, I understand, some things go beyond the common man; we can't all be 'super', well, unless you get the game; then we're all super duper.

You of all people talking about "trying to put people down"? Come on now, you do this more then anyone on this whole forum :?

Some people are enjoying this gaem and have given reasons why, they are not WRONG for feelign the way they do about the game. Its called an opinion, some like the game some dont like it. There is no right or wrong.

You of all people talking about "trying to put people down"? Come on now, you do this more then anyone on this whole forum :?

Some people are enjoying this gaem and have given reasons why, they are not WRONG for feelign the way they do about the game. Its called an opinion, some like the game some dont like it. There is no right or wrong.

kozzy1234

I gotta agree. Why the need to jump down peoples throat over something like this? Some like the game, some don't.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

Ok, let me explain, as I have run into many "button mashers" who i promptly smash into the ground.

You have power and super power, power is used for normal skills; you generate power by doing "combos" [example: left click, right click, left tap, left hold, right click] after generating enough power you can use "skills" [example: aoe heal, ice block enemies, etc] using these skills generate "superpower" which in turn unlock the next "tier" of skills [example: aoe root 8 enemies].

Ok, so, to maximize damage, you are doing combos, skills, and blowing superpowers. On top of that you are dodging, manually, incoming attacks; if you are a tank you are blocking, manually.

Beyond that: group dynamics - 4 key roles: tank/healer/controller/dps

They form a cohesion which generates enough health/mitigation/damage/energy regen to overcome the encounter.

So, there is your revolution, active combat with the addition of a 4th role into the "trinity". Combine that with 5 trees per character, skill points continuing to gather after 30 via achiev unlocks and you have yourself one crazy MMO fit to dominate the world. You're complaints about the UI are warranted, certainly, but that kind of misses the point with an MMO doesn't it? These games are actively managed/planned/patched, change can happen, and certainly will. Why miss a gem because there is a spec of dirt?

If you don't get that, I understand, some things go beyond the common man; we can't all be 'super', well, unless you get the game; then we're all super duper.

kozzy1234

You of all people talking about "trying to put people down"? Come on now, you do this more then anyone on this whole forum :?

Some people are enjoying this gaem and have given reasons why, they are not WRONG for feelign the way they do about the game. Its called an opinion, some like the game some dont like it. There is no right or wrong.

and what can i say honestly? a lot of people on this forum deserve it.

I'd much rather play a great MMORPG, like World of Warcraft.