Duke Nukem Forever is more fun than Crysis 2.

Both games are first person shooters involving a hero fighting an alien invasion. They also happen to be the only first person shooters from 2011 I have played this year.

But... for some reason, I just found DNF more fun than Crysis 2. Yes, the gameplay mechanics are rough and the hit detection is off, and the game isn't as pretty, but it's more fun shooting up pigcops and octobrains than it was to mow down legions of faceless Crynet soldiers in Crysis 2.

I thought Crysis 2 was dreadfully boring, and I had expected at least a decent game. I expected very little from DNF, but I actually got some enjoyment from the couple of hours I spent with it. I wouldn't call DNF the better game, but I agree, it is more entertaining.

Most people like Crysis 2 better. That's why it has better review scores and better user scores. Even the kindest review only gave Duke Nukem an 80. Crysis 2 got AAA scores from multiple outlets.

I agree. DNF is much more entertaining than Crysis 2. I consider Crysis 2 to be the biggest let down of the year, myself.

I think people say they are enjoying Duke because they paid full price for the game and did not expect it to bomb so bad. Crysis 2 does not have textures from 14 years ago and the gameplay is fun, which is always better in my book.

How the hell can people say Crysis 2 was BORING....!!!FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]How the hell can people say Crysis 2 was BORING....!!!KHAndAnime

Boring campaign, lack of environmental destruction, dumb ass plot, felt really linear, focus on scripted events over gameplay mechanics, etc.

lol doesn't Duke have all those problems?

I just hope Nutcrackr doesn't see this thread. When I'm doing my exam I'll be able to hear this "NoooOoo" all the way from the Victoria and I won't be able to concerntrate :(

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]How the hell can people say Crysis 2 was BORING....!!!biggest_loser

Boring campaign, lack of environmental destruction, dumb ass plot, felt really linear, focus on scripted events over gameplay mechanics, etc.

lol doesn't Duke have all those problems?

You know what. I enjoyed DNF more then Crysis 2 too. I'm not saying its a better game overall but I still had much more fun with it and liked it better for what it is.

Kevin V really droped the ball on this one. Giving it a 3 is ridiculous.I would go as far to call it unprofessional and stupid review . I have a theory why he hated it so much but If I say it I'll get moded real bad so I won't.

I'd give the game a solid 6-6.5 maybe even a 7.

I liked it better then Killzone 3 btw lol :P. I must be getting tired of those generic modern shooters. Bulletstorm and and DNF are the most fun shooters I've played this year by far.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]How the hell can people say Crysis 2 was BORING....!!!KHAndAnime

You know what. I enjoyed DNF more then Crysis 2 too. I'm not saying its a better game overall but I still had much more fun with it and liked it better for what it is.

Kevin V really droped the ball on this one. Giving it a 3 is ridiculous.I would go as far to call it unprofessional and stupid review . I have a theory why he hated it so much but If I say it I'll get moded real bad so I won't.

I'd give the game a solid 6-6.5 maybe even a 7.

I liked it better then Killzone 3 btw lol :P. I must be getting tired of those generic modern shooters. Bulletstorm and and DNF are the most fun shooters I've played this year by far.

beganoo

I don't know. If the game wasn't released at full price I could give it some thumbs up. Well, maybe half a thumb up. Maybe...

Ehh I don't think duke nukem is for me since I didn't really find duke nukem 3D all that great and forever looked a little boring I did however enjoy Crysis 2 it was not as fun as Crysis 1 of cource but still pretty enjoyable and the graphics where amazing.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

You know what. I enjoyed DNF more then Crysis 2 too. I'm not saying its a better game overall but I still had much more fun with it and liked it better for what it is.

Kevin V really droped the ball on this one. Giving it a 3 is ridiculous.I would go as far to call it unprofessional and stupid review . I have a theory why he hated it so much but If I say it I'll get moded real bad so I won't.

I'd give the game a solid 6-6.5 maybe even a 7.

I liked it better then Killzone 3 btw lol :P. I must be getting tired of those generic modern shooters. Bulletstorm and and DNF are the most fun shooters I've played this year by far.

FelipeInside

Its old school gunplay. Nothing wrong with it.People who never played the classic shooters or are new to gaming in general may dislike it but it was pretty good for me. So much nostalgia in it. They did add things like aiming down the sights and regenerating health but its all good.

Its old school gunplay. Nothing wrong with it.People who never played the classic shooters or are new to gaming in general may dislike it but it was pretty good for me. So much nostalgia in it. They did add things like aiming down the sights and regenerating health but its all good.

beganoo

But how is the gunplay old school if you now have to keep taking cover and popping shots out, waiting for your health to come back.

You say the health system is "all good" but it really does affect how you approach the shooting! (like not being able to take as many hits as you did with a 100 Health system lets call it)

What a good game, since after work, except work time the rest of the time to spend with a girlfriend time!!!!!!!!!! Almost and say goodbye to the game!!!!! Also only in BBS in to see see! Sad!:(

What a good game, since after work, except work time the rest of the time to spend with a girlfriend time!!!!!!!!!! Almost and say goodbye to the game!!!!! Also only in BBS in to see see! Sad!:(

andrewjuly

How the hell can people say Crysis 2 was BORING....!!!FelipeInside

Thought it was a decent game wasnt boring wasnt the best shooter ive ever played felipe..Duke nuke em has more to it..Also love how the poster above says we are trying to justify our purchase..Some people may enjoy it and over loook the graphics..Its not a bad game at all..

No way. Duke Nukem is just a painfully linear shell of its former shell, at least Crysis 2 allows you to decide how you approach things. ocstew

Crysis 2 was more linear than duke please..You stay in one area an clear it and than move on..Just because it wasa bit larger than duke..Doesnt mean squat..Dukes a decent game and deserves at least a 7.5 its no 3 its far better than that..Id like to talk to that reviewer and ask him what hes thinking..Its no 8 or 9 but a 7 wouldve been find..Its not aboring game at all...

Still waiting for dx11 patch. While Crysis 1 was a great games with sweet graphics on top I fear that C2 needs to rely on those great graphics that it does'nt even have yet.

I agree 100%, I said this a few days ago in another thread. The game isnt that great but it deserves a lot more than 3.5. I would have given it a 6.5 - personally and Crysis 2 a 6.0 mainly for being boring as hell.

I like Duke Nukem I guess I just have bad taste in games :P I love hitting women who are pregnant with aliens in the stomach!Fightingfan

Classy and tastefully done.

Ugh.

Anyway whatever's 'more fun' fun is entirely subjective, but I can safely say is Crysis 2 is a much, much better designed gam -( and game in general quite frankly).

Which is one of its downfalls, the game feels so 'by the book' and predictable it just drags, and drags, and drags, especialy after the half way point. There's no advantage or point to stealth, it's easier to select armour and walk in a long line following waypoints and shooting the Aliens which spend more time trying to look intelligent by hopping about than actually posing a threat.

Which is a massive shame.

I just don't believe people who say they're having fun playing Duke Nukem Forever. They're in denial. Whether you like a game or not is obviously an opinion, but claiming you enjoy Duke Nukem is as believeable as claiming you enjoy being repeatedly kicked in the groin. Just because you claim to enjoy it doesn't make it true. Comparing it to a legitimately well make game like Crysis 2 is a joke. People who paid full price for Duke Nukem are just trying really hard to convince themselves and others of something that doesn't make rational sense.

I just don't believe people who say they're having fun playing Duke Nukem Forever. They're in denial. Whether you like a game or not is obviously an opinion, but claiming you enjoy Duke Nukem is as believeable as claiming you enjoy being repeatedly kicked in the groin.Just because you claim to enjoy it doesn't make it true. Comparing it to a legitimately well make game like Crysis 2 is a joke. People who paid full price for Duke Nukem are just trying really hard to convince themselves and others of something that doesn't make rational sense.

Skeptomania

Could also be said about "they're in Denial"... or claiming you enjoy DN is as believeable as claiming you enjoy being repeatedly kicked in the groin..

Just because you Claim all this crap ^, doesn't make it true..:P

I just don't believe people who say they're having fun playing Duke Nukem Forever. They're in denial. Whether you like a game or not is obviously an opinion, but claiming you enjoy Duke Nukem is as believeable as claiming you enjoy being repeatedly kicked in the groin. Just because you claim to enjoy it doesn't make it true. Comparing it to a legitimately well make game like Crysis 2 is a joke. People who paid full price for Duke Nukem are just trying really hard to convince themselves and others of something that doesn't make rational sense.

Skeptomania

I just don't believe people who say they're having fun playing Duke Nukem Forever. They're in denial. Whether you like a game or not is obviously an opinion, but claiming you enjoy Duke Nukem is as believeable as claiming you enjoy being repeatedly kicked in the groin. Just because you claim to enjoy it doesn't make it true. Comparing it to a legitimately well make game like Crysis 2 is a joke. People who paid full price for Duke Nukem are just trying really hard to convince themselves and others of something that doesn't make rational sense.

Skeptomania

Crysis 2... I was expecting so much more from that game. Instead of recreating the magic that was the original Crysis, they turned it into a linear, on the rails sort of shooter with no soul or creativity. There were so many Michael Bay-esque scripted scenes that I wondered if I was playing a sci-fi version of Modern Warfare or not.

Expectations do factor themselves in. My expectations for DNF were far lower.

Crysis 2 allows you to decide how you approach things. ocstew

I think it's because with a game like Crysis 2, your expectations are so high that it disappoints you.

But Duke Nukem, you know it sucks and your just playing for fun and it ends up being more enjoyable.

the amount of bandwagoning in this thread is disgusting...so is the lack of objectivity.

the amount of bandwagoning in this thread is disgusting...so is the lack of objectivity.

mrbojangles25

Bo be kind. There's no such thing as objectivity and to be honest that isn't always a bad thing. People should have opinions and they come from the subjective soup of the individual and his or hers life experiences. I'm glad to see that DNF isn't as bad as the GS review made it look. I really can't, and won't, comment on Crysis 2 or DNF cause I don't own either yet. They will be bargain table purchases for me if I get them at all. But I'd likely get DN more then Crysis 2 cause of these subjective thoughts and bandwagoning. Also the no save anywhere feature in Crysis 2 is a hugh demerit. Just sayin'.

DNF is more fun than most of the Fps's came out in last 3-4 years.murekkep

This for me, DNF has been a game I've enjoyed the most for years. I think it has great graphics - modelling, textures, environment are rather well done with few critiques.On unreal 2,5 they could had easily achieved Crysis look, if they had only changed to a cheap colordesign in levels and used better post-processing effects. But the main thing why I enjoyed DNF more, was just because it was a fun game, it was a cheesy comedy shooter with cheesy lines. I loved it and I also love any Bruce Campbell movie more than any of the blockbusters running in cinemas throughout the years. I thought Crysis 2 was rather boring, which I didn't for DNF. Having played games for ~20 years I'm horribly bored of the boring FPS'es with exactly the same story already and at least now I could play ego Duke Nukem with cheesy and pointless lines, easter eggs entertaining me throughout the game.

My own view of Duke Forever is that it isn't bad, and its a callback to older games but it isn't a good game as such.

The thing about Duke 3D is that it wasn't just mature humour and gunplay. It had a sense of humour, digs at films / other games around at the time and made creative use of 3D and puzzles which hadn't been seen before due to the engine.

The new game uses old technology and doesn't really bring anything new to the genre at all, and "cool" doesn't really replace innovation / nice puzzles etc.

Sad part is that I agree. I've had way more fun with DNF than Crysis 2 so far.

DNF is more funny but thats it, gameplay wise it sucks..

I just don't believe people who say they're having fun playing Duke Nukem Forever. They're in denial. Whether you like a game or not is obviously an opinion, but claiming you enjoy Duke Nukem is as believeable as claiming you enjoy being repeatedly kicked in the groin. Just because you claim to enjoy it doesn't make it true. Comparing it to a legitimately well make game like Crysis 2 is a joke. People who paid full price for Duke Nukem are just trying really hard to convince themselves and others of something that doesn't make rational sense.

Skeptomania

Cool story bro.

I just don't believe people who say they're having fun playing Duke Nukem Forever. They're in denial. Whether you like a game or not is obviously an opinion, but claiming you enjoy Duke Nukem is as believeable as claiming you enjoy being repeatedly kicked in the groin. Just because you claim to enjoy it doesn't make it true. Comparing it to a legitimately well make game like Crysis 2 is a joke. People who paid full price for Duke Nukem are just trying really hard to convince themselves and others of something that doesn't make rational sense.

Skeptomania

That's not saying much.

My own view of Duke Forever is that it isn't bad, and its a callback to older games but it isn't a good game as such.

The thing about Duke 3D is that it wasn't just mature humour and gunplay. It had a sense of humour, digs at films / other games around at the time and made creative use of 3D and puzzles which hadn't been seen before due to the engine.

The new game uses old technology and doesn't really bring anything new to the genre at all, and "cool" doesn't really replace innovation / nice puzzles etc.

Erandel

Not true. It brought something new to the FPS genre - it has shown that you can't just slap a stellar name on a crap game and expect it to have a stellar reception.

It makes you wonder what the devs were thinking. The ideas behind the game - just do not make sense. Why only 2 weapons at a time? Why the linear levels? And driving, what the ****? Why the regenerating health? Why all those NPCs talking?

Duke Nukem 3D became one of the biggest icons in the gaming industry to the point of being elevated almost to myth (even before rumors of DNF started to reach us Duke was still standing stalwart and strong, remember the All Time Greatest Hero contest two summers ago? Duke lost to Link in the quarterfinals). The Grabbag theme is still as inspiring now as it was in 1996, the most famous oneliners are still used as memes while most other, even more popular memes faded in time, people still plays the 1996 game because it's just plain fun.

How could developers make DNF turn out this bad with so many changes?

I just don't believe people who say they're having fun playing Duke Nukem Forever. They're in denial. Whether you like a game or not is obviously an opinion, but claiming you enjoy Duke Nukem is as believeable as claiming you enjoy being repeatedly kicked in the groin. Just because you claim to enjoy it doesn't make it true. Comparing it to a legitimately well make game like Crysis 2 is a joke. People who paid full price for Duke Nukem are just trying really hard to convince themselves and others of something that doesn't make rational sense.

Skeptomania

I'm actually glad DNF bombed in the reviews, because a lot of what's wrong with it is exactly what's wrong with the genre as a whole nowadays, and it's good to see reviewers finally calling a game out on it. Who knows? Maybe Duke will end up saving the PC gaming world by becoming its martyr. Or maybe the next game will actually be good.

Either way, I'm glad the game's finally here, over and done with. Personally, I don't know what was more painful, the twelve years I spent waiting for this game or the six hours I spent playing it.