EPIC says PC gaming is dead...

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I really feel like hitting some sense into this guy.

On the forums one poster made a very good point. Console is where the money is cause they accept any poop game for $120, we PC gamers only accept quality. So for the designer it's easier, they make a regular/crappy console game and people will buy it, they make the SAME game for PC and we complain it's not to our standards.

I AM A PC GAMER AND PROUD OF IT EPIC

Well then...Epic Games is dead to me. At least they still made UT 99 and UT 2004 before they went 6 feet under to me.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

You really don't want to bother with companies like Epic they ceased being a PC centric company a long time ago and it had absolutely nothing to do with piracy they just use that as a convenient excuse. The only thing that still bugs me about Epic is the fact this sorry excuse for a company is still in the PC Gaming Alliance. Surely if Epic feels this way they would do the honourable thing and leave the PCGA ..... hm Epic and the word honour in the same sentence just doesn't feel right.

Epic is just pissed that piracy is rampant. But then again I know a few people who pirate Xbox games!
They just want an excuse to charge $60 for a game.

Viva la computadora!

I can't trust Epic after Gears of War, that game was awful.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

we PC gamers only accept quality.

warmaster670

ROFL, you must be pretty deep in denial to think this, considering the pc is home to the largest amount of buggy games out there.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]we PC gamers only accept quality.warmaster670

ROFL, you must be pretty deep in denial to think this, considering the pc is home to the largest amount of buggy games out there.

Cryostasis, I'm looking at ya! But yeah, PC games nowadays suffer from lack of optimization, bugs and horrible DRM systems.

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I really feel like hitting some sense into this guy.

On the forums one poster made a very good point. Console is where the money is cause they accept any poop game for $120, we PC gamers only accept quality. So for the designer it's easier, they make a regular/crappy console game and people will buy it, they make the SAME game for PC and we complain it's not to our standards.

I AM A PC GAMER AND PROUD OF IT EPIC

FelipeInside

Let me to say a thing to Mike Capps, that isn't as smart as Merk Rein and usually suffers "incontinent tongue syndrome":

-Unreal Tournament III (which I really like) sold bad in BOTH PC and CONSOLES. This was His fault.

-Fallout 3 sold very well in all the systems.

-Bad Company 2 sold excellent in all the systems, and PC sales are on par with the Xbox 360 ones (around 1,5 millions).

So, Capps isn't right to blame PC. Other companies show how PC games, exclusives or multiplatform ones, can be at the same time good and successful.

The only true thing here is that currently UT franchise is almost DEAD, in ANY platform.

[QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]we PC gamers only accept quality.KillerJuan77

ROFL, you must be pretty deep in denial to think this, considering the pc is home to the largest amount of buggy games out there.

Cryostasis, I'm looking at ya! But yeah, PC games nowadays suffer from lack of optimization, bugs and horrible DRM systems.

I can't trust Epic after Gears of War, that game was awful.

KillerJuan77

Hope your joking after this coment..Gears is a great ip game..

Cryostasis is a fantastic game. millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Cryostasis is a fantastic game. dakan45

Moolah

2m ATI 5xxx series cards sold in 4 months

Yup its dead alright.

If you read this thread over on QT3 and look for WarrenM's comments i'm sure you'll love epic even more.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Cryostasis is a fantastic game. dakan45

Horribly optimized is being nice, it wasn't optimized at all, which is sad because it's one of the best FPS I've played this gen (The first one being Metro 2033 IMO), besides I've never said it was bad.

Hope your joking after this coment..Gears is a great ip game..Gladestone1

Not really, the friendly AI is awful, the whole arsenal is unbalanced, the plot is terrible and I've found a large ammount of bugs in the 360 version (Not being able to switch weapons or to use melee attacks). Also, it's not as original as people say it is, I played an extremely similar game 2-3 years before in a game called .killSwitch, now that game did invent cover systems.

Those who can, make PC games; those who can't, blame piracy and make console games.

Those who can, make PC games; those who can't, blame piracy and make console games.Swiftstrike5

i dont understand, they make gears of war 16 months late on pc, it doesnt sell and they decided pc gaming is dead? Did they forget that ut3 sold almost no copies on any platform but pc? Ya sure it wasnt that successful on any platform, but what is with them?

The guy is 100% the Company's Main Goal is Making money not pleasing PC Gamers, and they found that Console Games Sells more than PC, guys Grow up you're thinking like we are in the PC Kingdom and whoever develop for Consoles is traitor and should Die PC Piracy is easier than Consoles and it really hurts companies, and PC Gaming is going to be dominated by zynga !!Dark_prince123

what epic should say is, we are getting tons of money from microsoft and sony, and some good sales for gears of war, we like consoles right now. That would make sense.

Epic are notorious morons. Only games this gen they made for PC are UT3 and Gears of War. UT3 was garbage that didn't sell well on either platform. Furthermore it's a Multi-Player game, how can they blame piracy for the low sales, when pirates can't even play it online? Gears of War launched with GFWL which required payment at the time. That too was a MP focused game. This may sound like excuses, but it's the truth. They can make snotty comments all they want, Valve and Blizzard are making millions out of PC gaming. They seem to be very backwards, PC sales are actually on the rise now, with the growth of Digital Download.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

we PC gamers only accept quality.

warmaster670

ROFL, you must be pretty deep in denial to think this, considering the pc is home to the largest amount of buggy games out there.

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]Those who can, make PC games; those who can't, blame piracy and make console games.General_X

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Cryostasis is a fantastic game. millerlight89

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Cryostasis is a fantastic game. millerlight89

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

we PC gamers only accept quality.

FelipeInside

ROFL, you must be pretty deep in denial to think this, considering the pc is home to the largest amount of buggy games out there.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Indeed, and it was not buggy at all, it was just horribly optimized. KillerJuan77

Horribly optimized is being nice, it wasn't optimized at all, which is sad because it's one of the best FPS I've played this gen (The first one being Metro 2033 IMO), besides I've never said it was bad.

Hope your joking after this coment..Gears is a great ip game..Gladestone1

Not really, the friendly AI is awful, the whole arsenal is unbalanced, the plot is terrible and I've found a large ammount of bugs in the 360 version (Not being able to switch weapons or to use melee attacks). Also, it's not as original as people say it is, I played an extremely similar game 2-3 years before in a game called .killSwitch, now that game did invent cover systems.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="warmaster670"]

ROFL, you must be pretty deep in denial to think this, considering the pc is home to the largest amount of buggy games out there.

GeneralShowzer

Of course, I never said that. Splinter Cell: Double Agent was the most buggiest game I have EVER played.. (I most of had at least 30 exits to desktop amongst other things), but I thought it was one of the best SC games in the series...

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="warmaster670"]

ROFL, you must be pretty deep in denial to think this, considering the pc is home to the largest amount of buggy games out there.

GeneralShowzer

I don't think that an unpolished game can't be a quality game.Like Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl was released with a lot of bugs, yet i enjoyed it way more than shooters like Killzone 2 or Modern Warfare.

True, games like STALKER, L4D series and TF2 are testaments that quality games, even if buggy at first(like STALKER), can be successful on the PC. That these games sold very well on a platform so rifed with piracy is a testament to how strong the platform is.

Funny they always fail to notice such obvious examples.

[QUOTE="KillerJuan77"]

I can't trust Epic after Gears of War, that game was awful.

Gladestone1

Hope your joking after this coment..Gears is a great ip game..

The guy is 100% the Company's Main Goal is Making money not pleasing PC Gamers, and they found that Console Games Sells more than PC, guys Grow up you're thinking like we are in the PC Kingdom and whoever develop for Consoles is traitor and should Die PC Piracy is easier than Consoles and it really hurts companiesDark_prince123

My thoughts exactly.

[QUOTE="Dark_prince123"]The guy is 100% the Company's Main Goal is Making money not pleasing PC Gamers, and they found that Console Games Sells more than PC, guys Grow up you're thinking like we are in the PC Kingdom and whoever develop for Consoles is traitor and should Die PC Piracy is easier than Consoles and it really hurts companiesMist3rBungle

My thoughts exactly.

OOOH!! We still aloud to make baseless, grand sweeping delusions based on diluted world views again? I love playing this game! It allows me to say crap like this:

"PC gaming says EPIC is dead!!"

see how silly and baseless that was? Anything sounds correct when nobody bothers to check facts! WWHEE!!!!

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Well then...Epic Games is dead to me. At least they still made UT 99 and UT 2004 before they went 6 feet under to me.FelipeInside

I second that. Shame that such a good PC company back in the day had to do this. PC gaming is far from dead, but we do know the console is more sucsessful in money.

[QUOTE="Dark_prince123"]The guy is 100% the Company's Main Goal is Making money not pleasing PC Gamers, and they found that Console Games Sells more than PC, guys Grow up you're thinking like we are in the PC Kingdom and whoever develop for Consoles is traitor and should Die PC Piracy is easier than Consoles and it really hurts companiesMist3rBungle

My thoughts exactly.

i have to agree, it was horribly optimized sometimes fps gone from 20 to 15, and as you can see my pc is not bad at all. As for gears of war, i agree totally, awfull ai, ubalanced guns, the plot is almost unexisted and killswitch was a far better game for the whole "take cover and shoot" combat system. But i played the second game and it is very improved in every way, its actually a pretty good game. But i guess gamers had to suffer wth the beta version first :Pdakan45

[QUOTE="doanm"]

OOOH!! We still aloud to make baseless, grand sweeping delusions based on diluted world views again? I love playing this game! It allows me to say crap like this:

"PC gaming says EPIC is dead!!"

see how silly and baseless that was? Anything sounds correct when nobody bothers to check facts! WWHEE!!!!

FelipeInside

The guy is 100% the Company's Main Goal is Making money not pleasing PC Gamers, and they found that Console Games Sells more than PC, guys Grow up you're thinking like we are in the PC Kingdom and whoever develop for Consoles is traitor and should Die PC Piracy is easier than Consoles and it really hurts companies, and PC Gaming is going to be dominated by zynga !!Dark_prince123

As others have said Epic are free to do whatever they want but they should keep their mouth shut about the PC since they haven't developed a game on the PC in at least THREE YEARS and even then it was a quick port of an 18 month old game. Their last game before that even died on the consoles never mind the PC but hey lets blame piracy for that shall we ? They have done nothing in the PC market since then, this would be the equivalent of Blizzard saying "console gamers only want dumb watered down experiences which we refuse to do in our games". What the hell would Blizzard know about console gaming ? Just like what the hell would Epic know about PC gaming these days ?

I find it odd that companies such as Valve, Blizzard, Bioware, EA and Avalanche (to name but a few) can some how manage to make the PC platform into a very profitable platform for themselves. Yet companies like Epic that milk their franchises till they are bleeding can think of nothing better to do than go "pfft not doing the PC cos of piracy".

[QUOTE="doanm"]

OOOH!! We still aloud to make baseless, grand sweeping delusions based on diluted world views again? I love playing this game! It allows me to say crap like this:

"PC gaming says EPIC is dead!!"

see how silly and baseless that was? Anything sounds correct when nobody bothers to check facts! WWHEE!!!!

FelipeInside

I did, and quite frankly you are missing my point. My point being is that their world view and motivations are based on nonsensical hyperbolic bull or as I like to call them flat out lies which are harder to substantiate then Epic cares to beyond a convenient excuse to move on to other means of revenues. Hence my satire of a sweeping statement which to me is quite frankly as equally nonsensical as Epic Games personal justifications.