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#251 voodoo1032801
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Thats what I really hate about game producers, if a game side becomes unbalanced why can't they just put the effort into making an event just for that side or give some extra cash for a completed quest? is it really that hard to update an event to even things out or make a side even? This clearly shows that the producers must have had a favourite side and mainly worked more on it. Is it that hard to make even sides? I think that the producers have to get there act together, I mean has any one else noticed that NightFall is another Factions. It just is another two more classes to the original, a new map and one big new feature (Hero's for Night Fall and two different sides for Factions). Come on give us something NEW, I know the original was a success but do u have to always ride the same pony?
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#252 teebeenz
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[QUOTE="voodoo1032801"]Thats what I really hate about game producers, if a game side becomes unbalanced why can't they just put the effort into making an event just for that side or give some extra cash for a completed quest? is it really that hard to update an event to even things out or make a side even? This clearly shows that the producers must have had a favourite side and mainly worked more on it. Is it that hard to make even sides? I think that the producers have to get there act together, I mean has any one else noticed that NightFall is another Factions. It just is another two more classes to the original, a new map and one big new feature (Hero's for Night Fall and two different sides for Factions). Come on give us something NEW, I know the original was a success but do u have to always ride the same pony?

In factions case the game was never finished so they didnt really care, and if they did put in the effort now itd cost them alot of money time and probably cause problems with the economy.
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#253 thehamman
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In WoW the sides are balanced, but in Factions one side gets all the advantages while the other gets all the disadvantages.



Incorrect. The sides in WoW are not at all balanced. The Alliance (Humans, Night Elves) always ountnumbers the Horde (Orcs, Taurun). On my server the Alliance to Horde ratio was 4.1:1. Although the Horde side is filled with much more mature players than the Alliance because all the younger kids like the pretty characters.
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#254 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="voodoo1032801"]

so it's Night Fall over Factions?

I actually liked the idea of two sides but i did also know that there was going to be a side with more people.

I don't really get it, in WoW there are two sides but yet they are mainly even with players with both sides having goods and bads, why couldn't factions do the same? I mean is it really that hard to make even sides? It may be up to the public to choose their side but its the developers who have the power on how the sides can work.

I think the next Guild Wars should start fresh I'm sick off developers deciding to make an awesome game then half way decide to do a half arse job I mean what is up with that? Why don't developers give a preview (like the Night Fall one) and then make the players write comments and rate it out of ten?

teebeenz
In WoW the sides are balanced, but in Factions one side gets all the advantages while the other gets all the disadvantages.

Thats only half true. If you have the luxons pushed back, then that means you are in their territory and natually, they would have the advantage, that same goes if the Kurzicks are pushed back. The the kurzick have the advantage because you are now fighting on their land. But if nobody is pushed back and fighting on nuetral territory, then the maps are even and neither side has the advantage. I would have figured you would have known this and am suprised you don't.
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#255 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="voodoo1032801"]Thats what I really hate about game producers, if a game side becomes unbalanced why can't they just put the effort into making an event just for that side or give some extra cash for a completed quest? is it really that hard to update an event to even things out or make a side even? This clearly shows that the producers must have had a favourite side and mainly worked more on it. Is it that hard to make even sides? I think that the producers have to get there act together, I mean has any one else noticed that NightFall is another Factions. It just is another two more classes to the original, a new map and one big new feature (Hero's for Night Fall and two different sides for Factions). Come on give us something NEW, I know the original was a success but do u have to always ride the same pony?

Gotta ask. How do you figure it is the developers fault because alot of people decided to be Kurzick? The people decide for themselves. That doesn't make it the developers fault.


Lol and Nightfall is not another Factions. I am guessing you haven't played Nightfall yet. Nightfall has more in common with Prophecies than it does Factions. Like you lvl slower like Prophecies and not fast like Factions. The PvE part is suppode to be where alot of the effert went. While Factions got more of it's effert put into the PvP part. So how do you figure Nightfall is Factions all over again. You may want to actually play the game before you speak so you know what your talking about. And if you did play the Preview, try paying attention next time so you know what your talking about.

I also like how some of you say Factions wasn't finished just because they put more effert into the PvP part and not as much in the PvE part. That doesn't make it incomplete, that makes it not your type of game. I just don't see how you get that FActions is incomplete. Fast paced and over before it begins, yes....but incomplete? No it is complete, just not what you was expecting. My guess is you like PvE and don't care for PvP and thats why it seems incomplete to you.
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#256 GPAddict
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I loved Prophecies and I really like Factions, but in Factions, I hated not being able to trade with a merchant because I was on the wrong faction.
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#257 voodoo1032801
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lol I well if you must know I was at the preview event 
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#258 voodoo1032801
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Have you even read my last post? I said "It may be the public who can choose their side but it is the developers who can choose how the sides work".
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#259 thejokerzwild22
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Great post here. I'm a big GW fan and I liked reading all your different points of views... except for the haters obviously. I've only played Prophecies, but look forward to the others when I finish this one. I like the storyline, graphics and gameplay. Plus the online being FREE is a plus as well. My girlfriend and I play online together at home. She has it on her computer as do I on mine. I also have come to see that there are more people out there willing to help you on GW which is always welcome. In all, the game kicks butt and I highly recommend it to any RPG lovers out there.

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#260 HuGeGaMeR
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I think that Guild Wars was a fun game, but there, I thought, that there was no interaction between players. The only interaction was in the instant areas and that was it. Also I think that a level twenty level cap was kind of lame. I don't own the game myself, but my friend has it and all of his characters are level twenty. So that shows me he spends most of his time on that game, which I wouldn't be surprised, or that the game was to easy to level up. So it has its up and downs, an up for instance, is no fees. The downs is that you have to buy an expansion pack every six months, I'm going on my friend so don't yell at me. It is a fun game but, I believe, it doesn't compare to World of Warcraft.
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#261 GPAddict
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I think that Guild Wars was a fun game, but there, I thought, that there was no interaction between players. The only interaction was in the instant areas and that was it. Also I think that a level twenty level cap was kind of lame. I don't own the game myself, but my friend has it and all of his characters are level twenty. So that shows me he spends most of his time on that game, which I wouldn't be surprised, or that the game was to easy to level up. So it has its up and downs, an up for instance, is no fees. The downs is that you have to buy an expansion pack every six months, I'm going on my friend so don't yell at me. It is a fun game but, I believe, it doesn't compare to World of Warcraft.HuGeGaMeR

Yes we know, WoW is far superior, thanks for the update. :roll: :)

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#262 voodoo1032801
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so all and all who is gonna buy nightfall? (just need some hands to know if I'm gonna buy it.)
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#263 l-_-l
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Like a few post back, my girl and I also play together. her on her's and me on mine. I already have 2 copies of the bonus disk (the one with the extra slot and sweet limited edition weapons for the new classes), and 2 copies of the collector's edition on preorder.
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#264 voodoo1032801
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sweet as
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#265 tomjacobs
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As soon as I see the box in the store, I'm gonna grab it, hug it, maybe lick it a bit and then PLAY !

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#266 GPAddict
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As soon as I see the box in the store, I'm gonna grab it, hug it, maybe lick it a bit and then PLAY !

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You forgot "spank it" :wink:

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#267 voodoo1032801
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lol
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#268 maximus_2
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well game looks cool but what the hell!!!!! why its only SP!?!?!?!!!!??!?!?!?!?!??!
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#269 HuGeGaMeR
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Now see here 'GPAddict' I believe that the game is not even close to World of Warcraft. So If you already know that good for you want a medal? I honestly believe that you Guild Wars fanboys need to drop Guild Wars and buy a good game. So you can hate me or love me but don't go putting down World of Warcraft with your "don't have to pay monthly." Well that tells me your all cheap punks and or you guys can afford fifteen dollars a month. So don't be hatin'. :evil: :evil: :evil:
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#270 thehamman
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Now see here 'GPAddict' I believe that the game is not even close to World of Warcraft. So If you already know that good for you want a medal? I honestly believe that you Guild Wars fanboys need to drop Guild Wars and buy a good game. So you can hate me or love me but don't go putting down World of Warcraft with your "don't have to pay monthly." Well that tells me your all cheap punks and or you guys can afford fifteen dollars a month. So don't be hatin'. :evil: :evil: :evil:HuGeGaMeR


Its called his opinion.

EDIT: Oh and BTW I am an ex-WoW player so I have the tastes of both sides.
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#271 voodoo1032801
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Well for one thing you have to pay for WoW so you expect it to be good and better than Guild Wars and second of all ( like the other guy said) "it's an opinon" don't have to go blame a guy who likes his games cause you don't like theirs.

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#272 AFBrat77
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so all and all who is gonna buy nightfall? (just need some hands to know if I'm gonna buy it.)voodoo1032801

You bet I'm buying it.

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#273 AFBrat77
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Now see here 'GPAddict' I believe that the game is not even close to World of Warcraft. So If you already know that good for you want a medal? I honestly believe that you Guild Wars fanboys need to drop Guild Wars and buy a good game. So you can hate me or love me but don't go putting down World of Warcraft with your "don't have to pay monthly." Well that tells me your all cheap punks and or you guys can afford fifteen dollars a month. So don't be hatin'. :evil: :evil: :evil:HuGeGaMeR

Guild Wars (original) is a better game than WoW, period.

...and this coming from a big fan of Blizzards games. Then again, some of the Guild wars Arena Net team were former Blizzard employees :)

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#274 voodoo1032801
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 yea well since I live in a country far away from America I guess they will be launching Night Fall after you guys "sigh" Unless their doing a world wide launch. I could download it from the shop but I don't really trust downloads cause if you want to re-install it then you have to buy it again.
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#275 Planeforger
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HuGeGaMeR: Hmm...sounds like you've never played Guild Wars.
The only interaction was in the instant areas and that was it.HuGeGaMeR

Firstly, it's instanced areas...and those are the areas where you can only interact with players in your party. Outside of the instanced areas are towns and outposts, where you can interact with everyone.

[QUOTE="HuGeGaMeR"]Also I think that a level twenty level cap was kind of lame. I don't own the game myself, but my friend has it and all of his characters are level twenty. So that shows me he spends most of his time on that game, which I wouldn't be surprised, or that the game was to easy to level up.


Firstly, one of the game's best features is that it doesn't involve grind. By grind, I mean the main gameplay in WoW - killing things aimlessly for days on end, until you reach a high level. The level twenty cap is actually rather good, because it keeps everything balanced. The game is about skill, not playing time. It's about designing and perfecting a good character build, not about playing for hundreds of hours.

Secondly, you said that you wouldn't be suprised if he spent most of his time in the game. Why...because it is awesome? :D

[QUOTE="HuGeGaMeR"] I believe that the game is not even close to World of Warcraft.


[QUOTE="HuGeGaMeR"]I honestly believe that you Guild Wars fanboys need to drop Guild Wars and buy a good game.


To that, I must say:
I don't own the game myselfHuGeGaMeR


[QUOTE="HuGeGaMeR"]The downs is that you have to buy an expansion pack every six months.


You don't have to buy a new campaign pack every six months, but it is rather awesome that they release a new continent, new professions, items and skills every six months.
And secondly, you contradicted yourself later:
[QUOTE="HuGeGaMeR"]So you can hate me or love me but don't go putting down World of Warcraft with your "don't have to pay monthly." Well that tells me your all cheap punks and or you guys can afford fifteen dollars a month.



So...what is it? Are you calling us cheap, for not paying $15 a month, or are you saying that we're playing a bad game, because we have to buy a new campaign every six months?

Anyway, look, unless you can actually back up your statements (by that I mean not just stating opinions based on what you've seen your friend do in the game), stop trolling this thread, and stop bagging a game you haven't played.
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#276 GPAddict
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FYI

Canthan (Factions) bosses are 3 times as likely to drop green items this weekend.

Happy farming! :wink:

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#277 l-_-l
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well game looks cool but what the hell!!!!! why its only SP!?!?!?!!!!??!?!?!?!?!??!maximus_2
Huh?
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#278 l-_-l
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Now see here 'GPAddict' I believe that the game is not even close to World of Warcraft. So If you already know that good for you want a medal? I honestly believe that you Guild Wars fanboys need to drop Guild Wars and buy a good game. So you can hate me or love me but don't go putting down World of Warcraft with your "don't have to pay monthly." Well that tells me your all cheap punks and or you guys can afford fifteen dollars a month. So don't be hatin'. :evil: :evil: :evil:HuGeGaMeR
Dude, long story short, your a moron. NUFF SAID.
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#279 l-_-l
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yea well since I live in a country far away from America I guess they will be launching Night Fall after you guys "sigh" Unless their doing a world wide launch. I could download it from the shop but I don't really trust downloads cause if you want to re-install it then you have to buy it again.voodoo1032801
lol no you don't have to buy it again. I can tell you never download, hell you know nothing about it.
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#280 kpsting
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Canthan (Factions) bosses are 3 times as likely to drop green items this weekend.GPAddict


awfully strange weekend for a game supposedly not being about items
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#281 GPAddict
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[QUOTE="GPAddict"]Canthan (Factions) bosses are 3 times as likely to drop green items this weekend.kpsting


awfully strange weekend for a game supposedly not being about items

Care to elaborate on that..

Thanks.

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#282 tomjacobs
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[QUOTE="kpsting"][QUOTE="GPAddict"]Canthan (Factions) bosses are 3 times as likely to drop green items this weekend.GPAddict



awfully strange weekend for a game supposedly not being about items

Care to elaborate on that..

Thanks.

Never feed a troll, Addict ...

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#283 teebeenz
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[QUOTE="GPAddict"]Canthan (Factions) bosses are 3 times as likely to drop green items this weekend.kpsting


awfully strange weekend for a game supposedly not being about items

Its so people who are buying Nightfall can get a headstart on items for their heros.
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#284 kpsting
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Never feed a troll, Addict ...tomjacobs


right, don't feed Tom. he's too fat already...
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#285 kpsting
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Its so people who are buying Nightfall can get a headstart on items for their heros.teebeenz


If people care so much about their heroes using green items then why Anet doesn't just automatically put all the frikking greens in the inventory of lvl1 Nightfall chars? and while they're at it why not fill up their bank with gold and give them all crafting mats and runes and skills, too? and while they're at it why don't they just unlock all the outposts for those new lvl1 chars? heck, why is this game still having PvE at all?
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#286 Planeforger
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[QUOTE="kpsting"][QUOTE="GPAddict"]Canthan (Factions) bosses are 3 times as likely to drop green items this weekend.teebeenz


awfully strange weekend for a game supposedly not being about items

Its so people who are buying Nightfall can get a headstart on items for their heros.


...Or it's rewarding dedicated players who bothered to continue playing Factions.
Or it's encouraging people who don't have Factions to buy it before Nightfall comes out.
Or it's encouraging players to give Factions one last chance, before they quit it forever and play Nightfall instead.
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Now see here 'GPAddict' I believe that the game is not even close to World of Warcraft. So If you already know that good for you want a medal? I honestly believe that you Guild Wars fanboys need to drop Guild Wars and buy a good game. So you can hate me or love me but don't go putting down World of Warcraft with your "don't have to pay monthly." Well that tells me your all cheap punks and or you guys can afford fifteen dollars a month. So don't be hatin'. :evil: :evil: :evil:HuGeGaMeR

Nonsense, Guild Wars (Prophecies) is, along with Half-Life 2, Baldurs Gate 2: Shadows of Amn, Call of Duty, and Civilization IV, among the biggest reasons this decade to be a PC Gamer.

These are GREAT games.

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#288 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="teebeenz"]Its so people who are buying Nightfall can get a headstart on items for their heros.kpsting


If people care so much about their heroes using green items then why Anet doesn't just automatically put all the frikking greens in the inventory of lvl1 Nightfall chars? and while they're at it why not fill up their bank with gold and give them all crafting mats and runes and skills, too? and while they're at it why don't they just unlock all the outposts for those new lvl1 chars? heck, why is this game still having PvE at all?

Because the game has RPG elements to it which is a genre you seem to have NEVER played based on your comments. Whats fun would it be building your chars up and customizing them for their own look if you already had everything for them and all heroes weapons would be the same. That just seems pretty lame, cheap, and boring to me.
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#289 kelfinserris
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so is nightfall the actual game or do you need the original guild wars like an upgrade or what? 
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#290 kpsting
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it's an actual game that you can play without having to buy other GW "parts".
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#291 freemandango
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="kelfinserris"]so is nightfall the actual game or do you need the original guild wars like an upgrade or what? 

You can just buy nightfall and play it, no need to have the previous 2.

That's what I like about this game, not like every other game (insert almost any type of game here) where you need the original one to play the expansion.

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Alyx Kristine E/Mo lvl 20

D Mencia N/Mo lvl 20

Nonnie Sunny Mo/Me lvl 20

Miko Miyasaky A/W lvl 20

Emit Flesti W/Mo lvl 12

Chase Von Cyder D/??? lvl 6

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#292 GPAddict
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OK how many have been to the elite mission called "The Deep"?

And the reason I ask is because I'm a W/Mo but it seems that they only want W/A there. So...

Anoyone got any good W/A builds??? TIA 

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#293 voodoo1032801
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so let me get this right , I've got the original copy of Guild Wars and if I buy Night Fall it will attach on to my existing account like an expantion? and how do you transport your player to another world?
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#294 teebeenz
Member since 2006 • 4362 Posts
You need to merge the keys into the 1 account first, then you get your chars to the first major port and there will be a quest to unlock the next place.
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#295 tomjacobs
Member since 2003 • 462 Posts

That's entirely correct, but make sure you get the merging of the accounts right when adding your Nightfall key, as there's no getting back afterwards. You have to choose to add the new key to your existing account in order to be able to travel back and forth between continents.

And note that you will 'lose' 2 character slots when merging accounts. A separate account would give you 4 character slots.

Cheers,

T.

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#296 voodoo1032801
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sweet, thanks for the information
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#297 Planeforger
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I believe this is what you are looking for:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Team_-_%22Steel_Wall%22_Deep_Group
The W/A build is at the top of the page.
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#298 Jinroh_basic
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sorry guys......i think i'm gonna give up on Guild Wars......

i liked this game, hell, very much.......i remembered the first night i played it, exploring the pre-searing Ascalon with a Canadian. we stood looking over a slope full of snow pines and she told me, who had been awe struck, that this was how her homeland looked like. i remembered how i used to help out these newbies, taking them from town to town, free, and giving tips as i could spare. back then they didn't want to "run"...back then the game was warm and genuine...back then the game was full of wonder.

now it's all about expansion packs and run and obsidian shards and wts spam...that's all i see over the realm of Tyria. Prophecies hasn't seen any major improvement since what....sorrow's furnace? that was almost a year ago. sure, Canthan green drop weekend....ArenaNet might as well send me an email, "you didn't purchase Factions so you are not really our valued customer, gee, sorry"........i don't like WoW, not at all.....but at least the game is willing to put up an illusion of improvement and changes without pulling the cheesy expansion trick.

i don't think ArenaNet is going to care what about my whining...yea...and perhaps i am....but still...i quit. sorry guys...i ain't spamming....just feel like venting the loss of my love........

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#299 kpsting
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that's what i was saying before they labeled me a troll
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#300 GPAddict
Member since 2005 • 5964 Posts

jinroh_basic:

Well sorry to hear, and Anet cannot please everyone, and everyone will get out of the game what they get out of it, and who knows for how long that will be, I have been playing for almost a year, and I still LOVE this game. Ya there are dull moments, and some things that aren't so great about it (I mean its an online community, there will be jerks and punks), but overall its really a great game and been more Fun then I ever tohught it could be. Right now I love trying out all the professions, man what a differnce gameplay is with a different prof and the challenge of learning how to play it well.

Hope you change your mind, and these stand-alone/expansions are fine by me, I mean paying $43.29 for Nightfall will be money well spent and I look forward to it. Peace.

kpsting: I never thought you were a troll :wink:

And thanks for the deep W/A link, that should work well! :)