Mass Effect 3 Core Content Stripped to Make Day 1 DLC - Only Free to CE

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#1 Gamesterpheonix
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And here we go again with an even BIGGER douche move from both Bioware and EA. Bioware has stripped core ME3 content for the sake of day 1 DLC that you STILL have to pay for even if you bought your Standard Edition NEW. This is the equivalent to the Zaeed and Shale content included in the Standard editions of ME2 and DA:O with ONE difference. That content was free to all consumers that bought the games new. Now these morons have opted to screw everyone out of some content to better line their wallets. What say you? Can any of you - in your right mind - justify such an action? Is there room for such BS from what we once believed was a respectable dev? Hell no.

Heres the source link:

http://www.gameranx.com/features/id/5179/article/unacceptable-mass-effect-3-strips-core-content-for-paid-dlc/

Heres a video illustrating the issues surrounding ME3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM

For some reason GSs crap system isnt letting me post two links. You'll have to copy and paste the video link.

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#2 800over
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Douchebaggery at it's best. Hey Bioware....I've already pre-ordered the regular edition...and the CE is sold out. Do I need to send you a cheque now or will this contect cost me down the road. Let me know.

What a bunch of BS. Say it ain't so Bioware. Say it ain't so.

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I gave up on EA and Bioware after Origin and DAII. EA has actually succeeded in reclaiming their throne from Activision as the lamest publisher.

Good job guys! :lol:

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#4 Croag821
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Yeah this is messed up...I mean seriously day one DLC is bad enough but taking out content to make it DLC is laughable. The thing is they know people will still buy it...
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#5 James161324
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Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

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#6 lawlessx
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taking out content from the game and making it Day one? thanks bioware..really..thanks for making yourselves look very greedy
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#7 Cordliss
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I preordered the Collectors Edition ages ago, since they said a long time ago that there would be a bonus character in the bundle. How do we know this is "CORE" ME3 content exactly? What is the difference here between what other developers/publishers have done with their day one dlc? You still have to pay for maps and bonus content with other publishers and games so what is the dividing line here that seperates it from what everyone else is doing?

How do we know that they literally had it in the game and actually pulled it out of the game before release to sell it? is there a dev leaking this info or are we just speculating that they pulled it out of the finished product? It would be pretty shaddy if that was the case but how exactly do we know 100% that it wasn't created to be dlc in the first place?

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#8 Miroku32
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Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

James161324

You guess?; it will be.

Oh and Cord, stop being a Biodrone please. We all know day 1 DLC is a greedy move, it isn't because they couldn't include the character, map or whatever the DLC content is in time.

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#9 Baranga
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How do we know that they literally had it in the game and actually pulled it out of the game before release to sell it? is there a dev leaking this info or are we just speculating that they pulled it out of the finished product? It would be pretty shaddy if that was the case but how exactly do we know 100% that it wasn't created to be dlc in the first place?

Cordliss

He was found in the game files and script when the beta was leaked on the 360 a couple of months ago.

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#10 Krelian-co
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I gave up on EA and Bioware after Origin and DAII. EA has actually succeeded in reclaiming their throne from Activision as the lamest publisher.

Good job guys! :lol:

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indeed, good job at pushing people to pirate the game even more and then cry about piracy

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#11 Zubinen
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It makes the devs more money, but it doesn't make ME3 any worse of a game.
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#12 Batang_X990
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i'm sure the game will still be amazing, but this is a great way to encourage more people to pirate the game; good job EA.
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#13 Cordliss
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

Miroku32

You guess?; it will be.

Oh and Cord, stop being a Biodrone please. We all know day 1 DLC is a greedy move, it isn't because they couldn't include the character, map or whatever the DLC content is in time.

Sorry bud, but I am not one to jump on the hate train because someone I don't know said I should. If questioning this persons ideas and where they got their info makes me a "biodrone" then I guess I am one. To be honest I think the real drones are the ones that don't ask any questions and just accept what is said as fact with very little evidence.

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#14 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

Cordliss

You guess?; it will be.

Oh and Cord, stop being a Biodrone please. We all know day 1 DLC is a greedy move, it isn't because they couldn't include the character, map or whatever the DLC content is in time.

Sorry bud, but I am not one to jump on the hate train because someone I don't know said I should. If questioning this persons ideas and where they got their info makes me a "biodrone" then I guess I am one. To be honest I think the real drones are the ones that don't ask any questions and just accept what is said as fact with very little evidence.

yes making excuses to why a company cuts parts of the game already done to resell it to us does not make you a biodrone for sure. yes its a "hate train" is not like some us not biodrones see this as a bs move. totally acceptable

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I can't believe I'm saying this and go ahead and give me s*** about it, but I'm glad this is happening. If they want to lock away some f***ing bulls*** plot contrivance like a Prothean party member(seriously, who the f*** thought that was a good idea!), more power to them.

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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

Cordliss

You guess?; it will be.

Oh and Cord, stop being a Biodrone please. We all know day 1 DLC is a greedy move, it isn't because they couldn't include the character, map or whatever the DLC content is in time.

Sorry bud, but I am not one to jump on the hate train because someone I don't know said I should. If questioning this persons ideas and where they got their info makes me a "biodrone" then I guess I am one. To be honest I think the real drones are the ones that don't ask any questions and just accept what is said as fact with very little evidence.

lol you argue that its as normal as the trash map DLC that a game like say MW3 would shove down its players throats but dont you see that it gives both Acti and Infinity Ward a terrible rep? Most PC gamers have abandoned those two trash companies and their BS money grabbing tactics. Its very rare to find DLC thats worth it at all. This would be alright if all those who bought the game NEW were allowed to have the DLC for free but they're making it a paid DLC that EVERYONE has to effing buy? You WANT to gobble all that up? Seriously?
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#17 BlackDevil99
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Damn EA, Day 1 DLC is so scummy

glad I pre-ordered the Collecters Edition now though

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#18 Swiftstrike5
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Because the extra $10 tacked onto PC sales for pure greed isn't enough. Because insuring that PC games can't be resold with DRM isn't enough (while ignoring consoles). Because selling key story elements as DLC isn't enough. Because, god forbid, they'll only make $80 million over $85 million without day 1 DLC.

I think I may be waiting for this one to hit the bargain bin or at least some reviews to say that the series was concluded nicely (and Bioware is done milking my wallet). Bioware just isn't proving to be the same developer it used to be...

/overzealous rant

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#19 Planeforger
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I can't believe I'm saying this and go ahead and give me s*** about it, but I'm glad this is happening. If they want to lock away some f***ing bulls*** plot contrivance like a Prothean party member(seriously, who the f*** thought that was a good idea!), more power to them.

Phoenix534

Agreed. As bad as EA/Bioware's DLC habits are...this one will spare me a couple of dozen facepalms.

Actually, who am I kidding - I'm waiting for ME3 to hit the bargain bins.

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#20 wis3boi
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ME3 will be my last EA/BioWare purchase for many years to come I think, unless they have something way too awesome to pass up.

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#21 mirgamer
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The smart thing to do now is wait for the game to hit the sales or bargain bins.
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#22 Apocalypse324
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That just means Ill do one of two things...either wait until the game drops down to about $20 and enjoy playing other new games and catching up on Older titles I havent played yet (which is mostly what Ill be doing when it comes to games) or...find a cheap used copy of the game so they dont get any of the profit and seeing how Ive never bought DLC that wasnt free...Ill continue that trend and notwaste money on this DLC
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#23 Krelian-co
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in b4 random excuses from biodrones for this deplorable business practice against customers by ea/bioware

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#24 jm92590
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And I enjoyed the demo so much too. After watching Total Biscuits latest video and hearing what he had to say, I will not be buying ME3. Oh well, just means more money in my pocket, and more time for my backlog.

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#25 htekemerald
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If you're dumb enough to give EA your money you deserve this.

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#26 robertlie
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What a cheap move...i broke my "After DA2 i will never preorder a game again" rule for this game. Will i ever learn...I mean, the game is probably gonna be awesome, but this just rubs me the wrong way. The extra weapons and armor dlcs releases is ok, cuz they dont really add anything to the game. This is just bad form.

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#27 -Unreal-
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I can't believe they have the audacity to do something like this when their game is a complete pile of crap that's been thrown together. Even GOOD games that have content kept aside as DLC are a disgrace.

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#28 Krelian-co
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

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#29 Elann2008
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Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

James161324

That, or it will definitely be one of the top 5, that's for sure. I find it weird how they keep getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Imho, Mass Effect series has declined. Not because of this fiasco.. ME2 and ME3 will never match ME1. ME1 was BioWare at its best in terms of this series. I think I will just go and replay that game instead of wasting my time here. :P

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#30 Makari
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

Miroku32

You guess?; it will be.

Oh and Cord, stop being a Biodrone please. We all know day 1 DLC is a greedy move, it isn't because they couldn't include the character, map or whatever the DLC content is in time.

Generally day 1 DLC is a separate team that wasn't working on the regular game. If the side DLC wasn't being worked on, the separate team wouldn't have a budget, and the side DLC wouldn't exist. Pretty simple. Almost never is stuff actually cut to become DLC - it's generally stuff that WOULD have been cut from the game if it weren't being sold separately because the regular team wouldn't have the time/resources to finish that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

Krelian-co
I wish you would describe what the link is. I really don't want to click on links to "TotalHaliBUTT" videos. Can't stand the guy.
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#32 sektiona
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Its just business its just not good business. I guess mass effect 3 will be one of the top pirated games of 2012

James161324

Isn't it though, in short terms at least (which most of the investors are interested in)? The ROI on the DLC will probably be much greater than the game itself. Mass Effect 3 would always be one of the top pirated titles this year with or without this DLC because it's one of the biggest games of the year. The fact that it's a big title gives EA/Bioware leeway to use this kind of shoddy business practice just like Activision with CoD. My guess is that if just 10% of the ME3 owners buys the DLC it would probably been a huge success for them.

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#33 toddx77
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Sad this had to happen. This is why I hate the fact gaming has become mainstream. All the idiots out there simply buying this because its an action game have no idea they are being ripped off.

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#34 Code135
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

I gave up on EA and Bioware after Origin and DAII. EA has actually succeeded in reclaiming their throne from Activision as the lamest publisher.

Good job guys! :lol:

Krelian-co

indeed, good job at pushing people to pirate the game even more and then cry about piracy

Exactly ... then PC gamers will be even more hated and those idiotic publishers will do something even more stupid ...

EDIT: And this is one of the reasons why I stopped buying AAA products lately ... too much bullsh*t all around the products. Indie games is where the fun is :P

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#35 Elann2008
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Sad this had to happen. This is why I hate the fact gaming has become mainstream. All the idiots out there simply buying this because its an action game have no idea they are being ripped off.

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Same has happened to music my friend. And it sucks bad. 90% of songs released besides, Adele, Lana Del Rey, etc are mainstream... If it doesn't have a dance club beat to it, no sale. I don't know who to blame, but it's quite depressing..
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#36 attirex
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/bioware-defends-day-one-mass-effect-3-dlc-6350925
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/bioware-defends-day-one-mass-effect-3-dlc-6350925attirex
Of course they will try to defend it but in the end it is a greedy move. Why can't they add it for free?
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#38 Gamesterpheonix
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

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Haha I was going to post this too! Haha. Thanks man. Ill update the OP to include this if you dont mind.
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#39 Gamesterpheonix
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Theres gotta be SOMETHING we can do...the internet has won several times now...Cant we start something that forces them to reverse their BS?
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#40 N30F3N1X
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Great.

I couldn't buy the game day one, now I'm doubtful I will buy it at all, at least until the whole package goes below 50€.

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#41 Krelian-co
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Theres gotta be SOMETHING we can do...the internet has won several times now...Cant we start something that forces them to reverse their BS?Gamesterpheonix

after the flood of piracy that will plague this game and then realizing they are losing more than what they will win with their lol $10 dlc and origin forced policy they will learn i hope.

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#42 Miroku32
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[QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]Theres gotta be SOMETHING we can do...the internet has won several times now...Cant we start something that forces them to reverse their BS?Krelian-co

after the flood of piracy that will plague this game and then realizing they are losing more than what they will win with their lol $10 dlc and origin forced policy they will learn i hope.

I wish but I know they won't. Instead they will say PC is overrun by pirates and perhaps they will include even more intrusive DRM.
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#43 Gamesterpheonix
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Theres gotta be a way to protest damn it!! That article is already on fire. Same with the youtube video!
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#44 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Doubtful.

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#45 ShimmerMan
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Game looks **** anyway. Just one more reason to Avoid. I'll wait till it hits the bargin bin for $6 (same thing i did with DA2).

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#46 kozzy1234
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I really wish they would have done what they did for ME2... ANYONE who purchases teh game (any edition) gets the DLC for free.

Them makign it ONLY collectors editions is so dumb..

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#47 Gamesterpheonix
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I really wish they would have done what they did for ME2... ANYONE who purchases teh game (any edition) gets the DLC for free.

Them makign it ONLY collectors editions is so dumb..

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Ya, it really is...:(
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#48 James00715
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I wasn't getting it at launch anyways. I will just wait for a nice Origin sale and pay $50 for everything.

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#49 The_Last_Ride
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omg, why? Why would they do this crap?
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#50 Raxzor
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As much as I love the ME series I WON'T be buying ME3 until it is for sale in the bargain bins. The is scandalous from Bioware/EA and I won't support it at all.