For me personally money talks. :) If Origin starts having predictable big sales every year,it will get me to consider it more. With Steam I can actually plan to buy games at whatever price I want knowing they are doing at least 3 big sales every year. With Origin I can't plan for that. I have to check the site daily in case of a sale. Steam makes it easier to get a good deal. Now this isn't for all games though. If a developer does a good job and I have the money, I pay full price.
Mass Effect 3 will require Origin (Bioware confirmation)
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I thought ur reason for not using Origin was because it did things without ur consent? Not because company record.ChiliDragonThat too. I'm clarifying and adding other reasons, since you didn't seem to think that's a good enough reason. What it comes down to is simply this: I don't like Origin and don't want to use it. I have reasons I think are good ones, and you don't have to understand or agree with any of them. The sooner you stop trying to argue that one opinion is more correct than another, the sooner we can both stop wasting time here and enjoy our weekend. :) Take a chill pill dude. I wasn't trying to argue, just understand ur reasons. Geez.... Lol
I shouldn't even respond to this but u need things cleared up cause ur confused. - Where in my post did I say Steam was crap and Origin was the best? Read it again. I even said I preferred Steam. - Bad PR guy? Really? Did u just join the forum? Cause u don't know me at all. I'm a fan of Bioware and EA cause they have brought out awesome games in the last 15 years, but no one is perfect and I've talked bad about them many times. Why do I even bother?[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
now you know how i feel when i see you trying to be a bad PR guy for EA and its games in every thread.
someone says something bad, there you go, damage control
need propaganda, lets start xx threads
seriously, very funny it is YOU who post that kind of comment when you basically do the same at every thread involving bioware and EA, including this one, oh no origin is not crap steam is bad too!
Krelian-co
ofc it is clear you are not raging because you are a fanboy of bioware and ea, and people praise valve while saying ea has a more than questionable behavior, your posts clearly never show that.
Saying the "fanboyism" of valve makes you vomit, while you are one of the most annoying fanboys of bioware who cant let anyone say anything bad about them or ea is nothing but hyporcitical
Again u are severely confused and I guess I gotta come out and clear things up. There's a difference between fan and fanboy, something u seem to think is the same thing. I am a fan of Bioware, cause nearly every game of theirs I played I've enjoyed and they bring out great RPGs. Saying that, DA2 was a huge let down for me although it was still an ok game. I was expecting more from SWTOR but I'm having fun with it and hopefully BioWare will make good on their promises. I really can't be a fan of EA cause they mostly publish , but they have brought out great games too. They have had their setbacks as well but every company does.
Meh.
If DRM from digital retail outlets bother some of you fellows so much, there are technically "free" options available, if you want to pursue those. I buy all of my games, but some of you are too principled for your own good.
In my eye, as long as the DRM does its job without hindering the consumer from using his or her licence as intended, it's fine, be it Steam, Origin, or whatever other clients spring up in the future. Steam and Origin do their job, and I am generally satisfied with both clients as they are. I do not have any qualms with using them.
Now, if Steam or Origin prevented me from playing my games as intended outside of regular server maintenance, only then will I bring out the pitchfork. But, alas, that hasn't happened yet.
I would also vouch for EA's tech support being faster to respond. Valve's support is a weak point.
Take a chill pill dude. I wasn't trying to argue, just understand ur reasons. Geez.... LolFelipeInsideBut it's so much more fun to over-react in b1tchy ways! :P
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Take a chill pill dude. I wasn't trying to argue, just understand ur reasons. Geez.... LolChiliDragonBut it's so much more fun to over-react in b1tchy ways! :P Very true.... hahahahahahaha.
I kinda expected this which is why I never planned on getting it in the first place. My brother will probably get it on PS3 and I'll just play it after he's done with it.Moriarity_So ur purchasing decision is based on what client it releases and not on the actual game?
I don't have any problems with Origin, Origin-Steam is exactly the samething. However, as for ME 3 I'm not overly excited about it. I didn't care much for ME 2, so I probably wont buy it till there's a sale.
[QUOTE="Arthur96"]
[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]
Where is your proof then ? if Valve bans lots of innocent people I would like to see some evidence of this.
charmingcharlie
Google is your friend.
So in other words you cannot find a single documented case of any innocent person being banned from steam. I checked google before I posted and I did not find a single case of an innocent person being banned from Steam. I had hoped you would provide a documented case that you know of but apparently I was hoping too much. I checked your crappy google search and the bans in that search result are all related to VAC bans which happen when you CHEAT in Multiplayer. As far as I am aware a VAC ban does not ban your account it just prevents you playing any multiplayer games that use the VAC protection.
I never said for one minute that Valve doesn't ban people from their service, it does but you have to be doing something pretty crappy to get banned from it. So unless you have an actual documented case where some one was banned from their steam account for no reason whatsoever the you have nothing. However in EA's case there are plenty of documented events where users were banned from their entire Origin account over something as silly and mundane as a forum post. There is even a situation where a user got banned from their games in Origin and they didn't even do anything wrong, their only crime was having their name quoted in an offensive post. So like I said till you can show us documented proof that Valve bans innocent people you do not have a leg to stand on.
Mate there have been instances where Valve have been very questionable. Take MW2 for example, thousands of people got banned for no reason, and all Valve did was compensate them with Left 4 Dead 2. How is that even fair? They were nowhere near the same price at the time.
No one hesitates to hate on EA because of a questionable past, yet no one stops to think just what Valve could do in the future, just because they wanted to. Both companies are in a very good position to manipulate and do whatever it is they want to with their customers. Valve employees aren't angels like many make them out to be, I'm honestly tired of all the Steam/Valve fanboys, it makes me sick to the bone.
Well, at least Valve figured out its mistake and compensated people accordingly. I am sure EA would have done the same (in such a case). How long were those people VAC banned for? I forget the details of that story.
I've heard EA compensated people on SWTOR when they were having issues. Damn, don't let Krelian read this, he'll call me an EA fanboy..... LolWell, at least Valve figured out its mistake and compensated people accordingly. I am sure EA would have done the same (in such a case). How long were those people VAC banned for? I forget the details of that story.
The_Capitalist
Mate there have been instances where Valve have been very questionable. Take MW2 for example, thousands of people got banned for no reason, and all Valve did was compensate them with Left 4 Dead 2. How is that even fair? They were nowhere near the same price at the time.
No one hesitates to hate on EA because of a questionable past, yet no one stops to think just what Valve could do in the future, just because they wanted to. Both companies are in a very good position to manipulate and do whatever it is they want to with their customers. Valve employees aren't angels like many make them out to be, I'm honestly tired of all the Steam/Valve fanboys, it makes me sick to the bone.
Arthur96
Can you link a source to that thousands being banned for no reason? Honest request as this is the first I heard of it (I don't roam around Steam forums that much).
Anyway, I wish clients never made centerstage of PC gaming. I liked when things were simpler where all you had to do is install from a disc and make a shortcut on the desktop to launch the game quick and easy. Now there are a multitude of clients and it gets a little cumbersome. Some even make use of two clients at a time (Yes, Batman, I'm looking at you). I guess I couldn't give a flying flip for all the gimmicky features beyond the simple launching of the game.
As for EA and Origin, the main thing I don't like about this is EA is getting too large for its own good. Not only do they own developers, now they're cutting out the vendors. I can imagine the profit margin they reap selling off of Origin directly than through Steam or Wal-Mart. And their official reason for parting from Steam? Don't like the way they deliver DLC's to customers? I think that was more of an excuse than a valid reason (I mean, as long as I can download it and run it, what the hell is the difference?). Unfortunately, this is how things will be now and in the future.
[QUOTE="Arthur96"]
Mate there have been instances where Valve have been very questionable. Take MW2 for example, thousands of people got banned for no reason, and all Valve did was compensate them with Left 4 Dead 2. How is that even fair? They were nowhere near the same price at the time.
No one hesitates to hate on EA because of a questionable past, yet no one stops to think just what Valve could do in the future, just because they wanted to. Both companies are in a very good position to manipulate and do whatever it is they want to with their customers. Valve employees aren't angels like many make them out to be, I'm honestly tired of all the Steam/Valve fanboys, it makes me sick to the bone.
XIntoTheBlue
Can you link a source to that thousands being banned for no reason? Honest request as this is the first I heard of it (I don't roam around Steam forums that much).
Anyway, I wish clients never made centerstage of PC gaming. I liked when things were simpler where all you had to do is install from a disc and make a shortcut on the desktop to launch the game quick and easy. Now there are a multitude of clients and it gets a little cumbersome. Some even make use of two clients at a time (Yes, Batman, I'm looking at you). I guess I couldn't give a flying flip for all the gimmicky features beyond the simple launching of the game.
As for EA and Origin, the main thing I don't like about this is EA is getting too large for its own good. Not only do they own developers, now they're cutting out the vendors. I can imagine the profit margin they reap selling off of Origin directly than through Steam or Wal-Mart. And their official reason for parting from Steam? Don't like the way they deliver DLC's to customers? I think that was more of an excuse than a valid reason (I mean, as long as I can download it and run it, what the hell is the difference?). Unfortunately, this is how things will be now and in the future.
Don't think it was thousands, but I heard about it a while ago too.
Totally agree. Miss the good old days. Although I like the Steam features of in-built browser and friends online while ur playing.
Yep, it's not only happening on EA Games or games in general, it's happening EVERYWHERE. Bookstores are closing down cause of Amazon and Kindle. Clothes are bought online more than ever. Music Stores now sell Movies mostly cause of iTunes. etc etc etc
[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]Aye. I send them a mail through Customer support january first, I got the answer on january 12 and they couldn't even answer my question. Surely Valve has enough $$$ to upgrade their customer support?Valve's support is a weak point.
Miroku32
In fact EA this past year has shown through their wave of nonsensical moronic forum bannings charmingcharlieYou don't get banned from a forum unless you act like an idiot.:roll:
Mate there have been instances where Valve have been very questionable. Take MW2 for example, thousands of people got banned for no reason, and all Valve did was compensate them with Left 4 Dead 2. How is that even fair? They were nowhere near the same price at the time.Arthur96
How was that acting "questionable" ? Yes it was a mistake and they were compensated with a game and unbanned. That wasn't acting "questionably" that was acting appropriately after a screw up.
Valve employees aren't angels like many make them out to be, I'm honestly tired of all the Steam/Valve fanboys, it makes me sick to the bone.Arthur96
I never said Valve were angels however compared to the crap EA pulls Valve are saints. That seems to be the point you keep missing, yes both companies have their faults and areas that they could imporve but EA is the one that goes out of it's way to screw the customer every way possible.
You don't get banned from a forum unless you act like an idiot.:roll:topsemag55
Actually it seems like you do get banned from a forum because you don't act like an idiot. There is a well documented case where someone was banned from EA forums (and their games) because their NAME was quoted in an offensive post.
[QUOTE="Arthur96"] Mate there have been instances where Valve have been very questionable. Take MW2 for example, thousands of people got banned for no reason, and all Valve did was compensate them with Left 4 Dead 2. How is that even fair? They were nowhere near the same price at the time.charmingcharlie
How was that acting "questionable" ? Yes it was a mistake and they were compensated with a game and unbanned. That wasn't acting "questionably" that was acting appropriately after a screw up.
Valve employees aren't angels like many make them out to be, I'm honestly tired of all the Steam/Valve fanboys, it makes me sick to the bone.Arthur96
I never said Valve were angels however compared to the crap EA pulls Valve are saints. That seems to be the point you keep missing, yes both companies have their faults and areas that they could imporve but EA is the one that goes out of it's way to screw the customer every way possible.
You don't get banned from a forum unless you act like an idiot.:roll:topsemag55
Actually it seems like you do get banned from a forum because you don't act like an idiot. There is a well documented case where someone was banned from EA forums (and their games) because their NAME was quoted in an offensive post.
What has EA done that makes them so questionable and the devil?They won't, it's EA. It's like saying Satan on these forums.Come on guys give Origin a chance,we gave Steam a chamce in the begining.
ztron370
What has EA done that makes them so questionable and the devil?FelipeInside
Well for a starters they support SOPA and as we all know that has wide ranging implications for the websites we know and love. Secondly they have destroyed many great PC developers and hey they even had the audacity to name their DRM crap after one of them. Thirdly their banning policy is not just wrong it is obscene, a forum ban = you losing ALL your games. Now if you can justify that then there really is no point in me even trying to rationalise things with you. Fourthly when their new "origin" client was released it did questionable things that EA only rectified when PC gamers kicked up a stink about it. Fifthly they are extremely anti-competitive and use their position to hike up PC game prices to console level and do their best to ensure DLC never goes on sale for the PC, not to mention the fact EA seems to think no one outside of the US actually plays on the PC.
Now I personally don't give a crap if this game is on steam or not. That is certainly not an issue with me, I had the retail version pre-ordered and I really didn't care that it was not available on Steam. I "tolerate" Steam I am not a huge fan of steam and I will use it for some low level cheap purchases but that is about it. However although I am willing to tolerate steam I am unwilling to afford EA the same courtesy because of their behaviour and practices.
They won't, it's EA. It's like saying Satan on these forums.FelipeInside
That is just trolling right there, no one on this topic has equated EA to Satan you are just trying to exagerate people's arguments. EA has an incredibly dodgy history in nearly all areas does that make them Satan ? No it doesn't make them Satan but it does make them a company I do not wish to conduct business with or support with my custom.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]What has EA done that makes them so questionable and the devil?charmingcharlie
Well for a starters they support SOPA and as we all know that has wide ranging implications for the websites we know and love. Isn't SOPA to fight piracy? And we don't know what SOPA is going or not going to do yet, so let's not jump to conclusions. Might be bad, might be not so bad.
Secondly they have destroyed many great PC developers and hey they even had the audacity to name their DRM crap after one of them. Destroyed? As you mean BOUGHT? The developer has to sell for them to be able to buy u know.
Thirdly their banning policy is not just wrong it is obscene, a forum ban = you losing ALL your games. If ur being an idiot on the forums and u get banned, then u deserve it. I agree loosing ALL the game is a bit harsh, but penalties need to be enforced. Same applies to anything, if I'm being an idiot at a gym, I'll get banned and my account deleted, even if I paid a whole year.
Fourthly when their new "origin" client was released it did questionable things that EA only rectified when PC gamers kicked up a stink about it.Questionable being the key word. No one had prove and people went all crazy about it, same thing happened when Steam was released. Now Origin is out, nothing has happened to anyone who has used it.
Fifthly they are extremely anti-competitive and use their position to hike up PC game prices to console level and do their best to ensure DLC never goes on sale for the PC, not to mention the fact EA seems to think no one outside of the US actually plays on the PC. You have proof of this?
Now I personally don't give a crap if this game is on steam or not. That is certainly not an issue with me, I had the retail version pre-ordered and I really didn't care that it was not available on Steam. I "tolerate" Steam I am not a huge fan of steam and I will use it for some low level cheap purchases but that is about it. However although I am willing to tolerate steam I am unwilling to afford EA the same courtesy because of their behaviour and practices.
They won't, it's EA. It's like saying Satan on these forums.FelipeInside
That is just trolling right there, no one on this topic has equated EA to Satan you are just trying to exagerate people's arguments. EA has an incredibly dodgy history in nearly all areas does that make them Satan ? No it doesn't make them Satan but it does make them a company I do not wish to conduct business with or support with my custom. Guess u don't read much of the forums hey? It's not trolling, but every time someone here says something good about EA, Blizzard or BioWare, the hammer comes down on them. BUT when either of those companies make a mistake, or get "greedy" in the business, they get slaughtered. Don't tell me most people here don't hate EA?
Well there you go. I wonder how much false data we believe about these companies.EA does not support SOPA.
If only people would bother to check their facts after they hear something.
Baranga
EA does not support SOPA.
If only people would bother to check their facts after they hear something.
Baranga
Perhaps I should have been clearer they only just recently withdrew open support for Sopa only after enough people kicked up a fuss about it (seeing a pattern here). However a case can still be made that they clandestinely support SOPA because the ESA is in support of and EA is a member of the ESA.
Isn't SOPA to fight piracy? And we don't know what SOPA is going or not going to do yet, so let's not jump to conclusions. Might be bad, might be not so bad.FelipeInside
Perhaps you should read up on SOPA and find out why people think it is a bad thing rather than going "meh it might be bad it might not".
Destroyed? As you mean BOUGHT? The developer has to sell for them to be able to buy u know.FelipeInside
It doesn't change the fact that EA ran PC devs into the ground and destroyed alot of cherished PC developers along with a lot of PC franchises.
If ur being an idiot on the forums and u get banned, then u deserve it. I agree loosing ALL the game is a bit harsh, but penalties need to be enforced. Same applies to anything, if I'm being an idiot at a gym, I'll get banned and my account deleted, even if I paid a whole year.FelipeInside
I am not arguing that they shouldn't be banned from the forums. If you cause problems in a forum yes you should be banned. However you should not be banned from playing the games you paid for. This isn't about the punishment fitting the crime here. When you are banned from a forum it is not a "punishment" it is a mechanism to remove you from the forum so you no longer disturb other forum goers. However EA by involving people's games collection in this ban have over stepped the mark and it is a douchebag policy that I can't believe any gamer in their right mind would defend.
.Questionable being the key word. No one had prove and people went all crazy about it, same thing happened when Steam was released. Now Origin is out, nothing has happened to anyone who has used it.FelipeInside
There were plenty of videos, snapshots and plenty of people analysing what Origin was up too and there was a clear consensus that Origin was snooping where it shouldn't. This caused a huge fuss and since then EA has changed the way Origin works.
You have proof of this?FelipeInside
Proof of what ? That they raised their games to console level pricing for PC games ? There have been many threads and topics about it. Proof that they have kept DLC at artifically high levels because they can ? Well check the DLC for Mass Effect 2 that has never recieved a price cut or sale on the PC ever. As for proof that EA does not think PC gaming exists outside of the EA well next time EA have an Origin sale pay attention to how many countries can access that sale.
Guess u don't read much of the forums hey? It's not trolling, but every time someone here says something good about EA, Blizzard or BioWare, the hammer comes down on them. BUT when either of those companies make a mistake, or get "greedy" in the business, they get slaughtered. Don't tell me most people here don't hate EA?FelipeInside
I haven't seen EA do anything good in a long time. You have to ask yourself though WHY do people hate EA ? Just what is it that EA does that makes people hate them yet at the same time a lot of the same people have praise for Valve. This isn't just fanboyism here there is a reason why EA is "hated" and Valve isn't. Do you honestly think people wake up in the morning and go "hm I will hate EA today" ? No people develop a dislike for companies based on how those companies treat them and right now a lot of people feel like EA is treating them like crap.
Now I honestly cannot be bothered to keep this going. If you have no problem with EA and Origin then that is your take on things I really cannot be bothered to try and change your mind about it. I on the other hand do not like the way the company has behaved in the past and I do not like the way the company is behaving now and as such I tend to not reward those companies with my money.
"I on the other hand do not like the way the company has behaved in the past and I do not like the way the company is behaving now and as such I tend to not reward those companies with my money." Then don't play ME3 even on PS3... don't play ANY EA Game from now on. Fair?FelipeInside
Erm that was my point, I don't even own a console. I have stated all along that I will not be purchasing or playing Mass Effect 3 on any platform and I have said that I will not be buying EA games till I see a drastic change in the way EA behaves on the PC platform. This whole discussion has come about because YOU asked me why I find EA so questionable.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]"I on the other hand do not like the way the company has behaved in the past and I do not like the way the company is behaving now and as such I tend to not reward those companies with my money." Then don't play ME3 even on PS3... don't play ANY EA Game from now on. Fair?charmingcharlie
Erm that was my point, I don't even own a console. I have stated all along that I will not be purchasing or playing Mass Effect 3 on any platform and I have said that I will not be buying EA games till I see a drastic change in the way EA behaves on the PC platform. This whole discussion has come about because YOU asked me why I find EA so questionable.
Good. It's honorable to know u are talking with ur wallet.
I'm actually happy Mass Effect 3 is using origin. I like having my games linked to a digitial service so if I ever loose the games, they get stolen, or scratched I don't have to buy new ones since they are on a digitial service. Also with EA putting cloud saves in origin and Automatic updates like steam I have no reason to complain. Even though I bought the retail edition of dragon age 2 and the old republic thye are also on my origin account and if I launch those games in origin instead of by just clicking on the launcher for tor or putting the disc in da2 it all plays the same. As for origin scanning your files I can care less. If EA wants to see whats on my pc then let them. I have nothing to hide.
"I on the other hand do not like the way the company has behaved in the past and I do not like the way the company is behaving now and as such I tend to not reward those companies with my money." Then don't play ME3 even on PS3... don't play ANY EA Game from now on. Fair?FelipeInside
This is what im doing, Personally lately, im starting to give up on gameing in general. It seems they would rather you pin you to the ground and ram as much money out of ya as they possibly can then label you as unvaluable.
Other then mass effect I dont see whats so great about their games anyway, id rather do something productive then give my hard earned cash to EA.
When mass effect 3 comes out ill pay for the game but, I aint gonna download origin even if I have to go through measures where it will void my warrenty with the game.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]"I on the other hand do not like the way the company has behaved in the past and I do not like the way the company is behaving now and as such I tend to not reward those companies with my money." Then don't play ME3 even on PS3... don't play ANY EA Game from now on. Fair?TrooperManaic
This is what im doing, Personally lately, im starting to give up on gameing in general. It seems they would rather you pin you to the ground and ram as much money out of ya as they possibly can then label you as unvaluable.
Other then mass effect I dont see whats so great about their games anyway, id rather do something productive then give my hard earned cash to EA.
When mass effect 3 comes out ill pay for the game but, I aint gonna download origin even if I have to go through measures where it will void my warrenty with the game.
huh? pin you to the ground?
They have great games (it's no really theirs, they mostly publish though). As for something productive, then ALL games can be considered under this. Stop playing video games period then.
ehhh, you need Origin running to run ME3.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]"I on the other hand do not like the way the company has behaved in the past and I do not like the way the company is behaving now and as such I tend to not reward those companies with my money." Then don't play ME3 even on PS3... don't play ANY EA Game from now on. Fair?charmingcharlie
Erm that was my point, I don't even own a console. I have stated all along that I will not be purchasing or playing Mass Effect 3 on any platform and I have said that I will not be buying EA games till I see a drastic change in the way EA behaves on the PC platform. This whole discussion has come about because YOU asked me why I find EA so questionable.
Does that mean you will be pirating it then? :P[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]"I on the other hand do not like the way the company has behaved in the past and I do not like the way the company is behaving now and as such I tend to not reward those companies with my money." Then don't play ME3 even on PS3... don't play ANY EA Game from now on. Fair?TrooperManaic
This is what im doing, Personally lately, im starting to give up on gameing in general. It seems they would rather you pin you to the ground and ram as much money out of ya as they possibly can then label you as unvaluable.
Other then mass effect I dont see whats so great about their games anyway, id rather do something productive then give my hard earned cash to EA.
When mass effect 3 comes out ill pay for the game but, I aint gonna download origin even if I have to go through measures where it will void my warrenty with the game.
What do you mean by pinning to the ground? I have been able to play arkham city fine with no problems and thats GFWL. I don't like how Mass Effect 3 requires a constant online connection but other than that I don't see EA or any game compan pinning me down.
Did you never play Dragon Age origins, Knights of the Old Republic, or The Old Republic? The only bioware game that has sucked late is Dragon Age 2. Sure Mass Effect 2 would more of a shooter than RPG but it didn't suck.
[QUOTE="Baranga"]
EA does not support SOPA.
If only people would bother to check their facts after they hear something.
charmingcharlie
Perhaps I should have been clearer they only just recently withdrew open support for Sopa only after enough people kicked up a fuss about it (seeing a pattern here). However a case can still be made that they clandestinely support SOPA because the ESA is in support of and EA is a member of the ESA.
Isn't SOPA to fight piracy? And we don't know what SOPA is going or not going to do yet, so let's not jump to conclusions. Might be bad, might be not so bad.FelipeInside
Perhaps you should read up on SOPA and find out why people think it is a bad thing rather than going "meh it might be bad it might not".
Destroyed? As you mean BOUGHT? The developer has to sell for them to be able to buy u know.FelipeInside
It doesn't change the fact that EA ran PC devs into the ground and destroyed alot of cherished PC developers along with a lot of PC franchises.
If ur being an idiot on the forums and u get banned, then u deserve it. I agree loosing ALL the game is a bit harsh, but penalties need to be enforced. Same applies to anything, if I'm being an idiot at a gym, I'll get banned and my account deleted, even if I paid a whole year.FelipeInside
I am not arguing that they shouldn't be banned from the forums. If you cause problems in a forum yes you should be banned. However you should not be banned from playing the games you paid for. This isn't about the punishment fitting the crime here. When you are banned from a forum it is not a "punishment" it is a mechanism to remove you from the forum so you no longer disturb other forum goers. However EA by involving people's games collection in this ban have over stepped the mark and it is a douchebag policy that I can't believe any gamer in their right mind would defend.
.Questionable being the key word. No one had prove and people went all crazy about it, same thing happened when Steam was released. Now Origin is out, nothing has happened to anyone who has used it.FelipeInside
There were plenty of videos, snapshots and plenty of people analysing what Origin was up too and there was a clear consensus that Origin was snooping where it shouldn't. This caused a huge fuss and since then EA has changed the way Origin works.
You have proof of this?FelipeInside
Proof of what ? That they raised their games to console level pricing for PC games ? There have been many threads and topics about it. Proof that they have kept DLC at artifically high levels because they can ? Well check the DLC for Mass Effect 2 that has never recieved a price cut or sale on the PC ever. As for proof that EA does not think PC gaming exists outside of the EA well next time EA have an Origin sale pay attention to how many countries can access that sale.
Guess u don't read much of the forums hey? It's not trolling, but every time someone here says something good about EA, Blizzard or BioWare, the hammer comes down on them. BUT when either of those companies make a mistake, or get "greedy" in the business, they get slaughtered. Don't tell me most people here don't hate EA?FelipeInside
I haven't seen EA do anything good in a long time. You have to ask yourself though WHY do people hate EA ? Just what is it that EA does that makes people hate them yet at the same time a lot of the same people have praise for Valve. This isn't just fanboyism here there is a reason why EA is "hated" and Valve isn't. Do you honestly think people wake up in the morning and go "hm I will hate EA today" ? No people develop a dislike for companies based on how those companies treat them and right now a lot of people feel like EA is treating them like crap.
Now I honestly cannot be bothered to keep this going. If you have no problem with EA and Origin then that is your take on things I really cannot be bothered to try and change your mind about it. I on the other hand do not like the way the company has behaved in the past and I do not like the way the company is behaving now and as such I tend to not reward those companies with my money.
And what franchises has EA destroyed? They, arguably, have the best games on the market today.
I don't really care. Have always played Mass Effect on the consoles.
EA Origin or Battlelog or whoever or whatever is responsible has some serious disconnection issues. Maybe my modem hates EA servers... I get booted from BF3 games 1 out of 2 games, all the time. SWTOR.. let's not talk about that. So far, EA is losing points with me.. and I might not even buy Mass Effect 3... at least not at full price, day one launch. They don't deserve it, imho.Elann2008I still think it has something to do with you and not EA. Not defending ea or anything, but most people aren't getting these issues. Have u tried other online games to see if it's ur internet? does ur router have automatic upnp enabled?
Does that mean you will be pirating it then? :P Elann2008
No it does not mean I will be pirating it, I know the way people on this board think which is why I specifically said "I will not be purchasing OR PLAYING Mass Effect 3". If you pirate a game that uses Origin then that is just as bad as buying the game. Pirating a game such as Mass Effect 3 gives EA justification for crap like Oriign, I do not want to support or justify Origin in any way whatsoever.
[QUOTE="Elann2008"]Does that mean you will be pirating it then? :P charmingcharlie
No it does not mean I will be pirating it, I know the way people on this board think which is why I specifically said "I will not be purchasing OR PLAYING Mass Effect 3". If you pirate a game that uses Origin then that is just as bad as buying the game. Pirating a game such as Mass Effect 3 gives EA justification for crap like Oriign, I do not want to support or justify Origin in any way whatsoever.
Please explain how Origin is crap. It's a very competent application that handles downloads and purchases quite well.
[QUOTE="Elann2008"]Does that mean you will be pirating it then? :P charmingcharlie
No it does not mean I will be pirating it, I know the way people on this board think which is why I specifically said "I will not be purchasing OR PLAYING Mass Effect 3". If you pirate a game that uses Origin then that is just as bad as buying the game. Pirating a game such as Mass Effect 3 gives EA justification for crap like Oriign, I do not want to support or justify Origin in any way whatsoever.
I was just joking. I'm pretty sure you won't do that. :P[QUOTE="Elann2008"]EA Origin or Battlelog or whoever or whatever is responsible has some serious disconnection issues. Maybe my modem hates EA servers... I get booted from BF3 games 1 out of 2 games, all the time. SWTOR.. let's not talk about that. So far, EA is losing points with me.. and I might not even buy Mass Effect 3... at least not at full price, day one launch. They don't deserve it, imho.FelipeInsideI still think it has something to do with you and not EA. Not defending ea or anything, but most people aren't getting these issues. Have u tried other online games to see if it's ur internet? does ur router have automatic upnp enabled?
I never had an issues with Bad Company 2 though. :( But EA's newer games, BF3 and TOR = disconnection heartache. I play other games FINE. As I've said countless times. Whether it be TF2, BC2, World of Warcraft for 2 years, Warhammer Online (which is another EA (mythic) game, Guild Wars, Age of Conan, LOTRO.. Counter-Strike, L4D 1 and 2.. many many hours into those games NO ISSUES.. I put in over 40 hours into Black Ops online, and previous COD games, no issues either. not a single disconnection issue with those games and many others. EA servers nowadays gives me a lot of problems.
Ok, so I looked up about your uPNP. It is enabled. I checked my firewall and it seems BF3 is only "checked" on private only. I checked the public box and I've played 3 games so far no issues. Mind you, when I first started playing BF3 when it first came out.. I didn't have issues with disconnections, just the game hanging and crashing. But as of late, it has been disconnecting a lot. Let's hope I don't jynx it again. SWTOR is set to both private and public though this whole time and I thought the driver update would have fixed it but apparently not. Hmm.
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