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#51 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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Did anyone get in? Reading the forums seems like a lot of congestion issues. Which is always expected on a MMO release. Pretty excited to play this one.Arthas045
NA servers are extremely loaded atm. Its so bad I resorted to playing on a JP server, which are experiencing absolutely no issues whatsoever. NA servers are being plagued by constant maintenance, errors, and downtime. Its not looking good cause launch is right around the corner. At his rate SE needs to double the servers on NA/EU side. I guess its looking like a average MMO launch where the first week is crap.
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#52 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Arthas045"]Did anyone get in? Reading the forums seems like a lot of congestion issues. Which is always expected on a MMO release. Pretty excited to play this one.IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
NA servers are extremely loaded atm. Its so bad I resorted to playing on a JP server, which are experiencing absolutely no issues whatsoever. NA servers are being plagued by constant maintenance, errors, and downtime. Its not looking good cause launch is right around the corner. At his rate SE needs to double the servers on NA/EU side. I guess its looking like a average MMO launch where the first week is crap.

you'd think all the betas would've given them a good measure of their expected population.
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#53 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"][QUOTE="Arthas045"]Did anyone get in? Reading the forums seems like a lot of congestion issues. Which is always expected on a MMO release. Pretty excited to play this one.BrunoBRS
NA servers are extremely loaded atm. Its so bad I resorted to playing on a JP server, which are experiencing absolutely no issues whatsoever. NA servers are being plagued by constant maintenance, errors, and downtime. Its not looking good cause launch is right around the corner. At his rate SE needs to double the servers on NA/EU side. I guess its looking like a average MMO launch where the first week is crap.

you'd think all the betas would've given them a good measure of their expected population.

Seriously. You think the betas, and 2 prior MMO launches would of helped them. I guess their only excuse is this is the first MMO they have NA servers. Still a bit of a mess though.
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#54 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"] NA servers are extremely loaded atm. Its so bad I resorted to playing on a JP server, which are experiencing absolutely no issues whatsoever. NA servers are being plagued by constant maintenance, errors, and downtime. Its not looking good cause launch is right around the corner. At his rate SE needs to double the servers on NA/EU side. I guess its looking like a average MMO launch where the first week is crap.

you'd think all the betas would've given them a good measure of their expected population.

Seriously. You think the betas, and 2 prior MMO launches would of helped them. I guess their only excuse is this is the first MMO they have NA servers. Still a bit of a mess though.

I've never seen an MMO launch without issues. SWTOR was probably the smoothest but still had problems. When a big MMO like this launches, expect bugs and maintenance the first 1-2 weeks.
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#55 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] you'd think all the betas would've given them a good measure of their expected population.

Seriously. You think the betas, and 2 prior MMO launches would of helped them. I guess their only excuse is this is the first MMO they have NA servers. Still a bit of a mess though.

I've never seen an MMO launch without issues. SWTOR was probably the smoothest but still had problems. When a big MMO like this launches, expect bugs and maintenance the first 1-2 weeks.

Rift and SWTOR were the smoothest ive experienced. I imagine with launch on Tuesday, this week will be a rough one for FF14. I might just continue to level on JP and transfer back to NA when they fix the crap.
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#56 masterdrat
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[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"] Seriously. You think the betas, and 2 prior MMO launches would of helped them. I guess their only excuse is this is the first MMO they have NA servers. Still a bit of a mess though.

I've never seen an MMO launch without issues. SWTOR was probably the smoothest but still had problems. When a big MMO like this launches, expect bugs and maintenance the first 1-2 weeks.

Rift and SWTOR were the smoothest ive experienced. I imagine with launch on Tuesday, this week will be a rough one for FF14. I might just continue to level on JP and transfer back to NA when they fix the crap.

Still, they're repeating the same thing as 2 years ago, they shut down every communication links again. And they piss off people by not giving them their early access code for a game most of them already bought and paid again just to get a week in before everyone else.
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#57 jwsoul
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I am interested. Tho i doubt it will hold me like WOW did once. 

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#58 Arthas045
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Sounds like it may be best to wait a week or two before jumping in lol. I was looking forward to starting it back up tomorrow, but not going to go through the headache.
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#59 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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Sounds like it may be best to wait a week or two before jumping in lol. I was looking forward to starting it back up tomorrow, but not going to go through the headache. Arthas045
Smart move. Regardless if NA is up, I will be streaming tomorrow. Will post the link in this thread. If NA is down, I will be streaming my JP character. A warning, I largely have no idea what i am doing in the game and just taking it one step at a time.
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#61 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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[QUOTE="masterdrat"][QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"] Rift and SWTOR were the smoothest ive experienced. I imagine with launch on Tuesday, this week will be a rough one for FF14. I might just continue to level on JP and transfer back to NA when they fix the crap. vfibsux

Still, they're repeating the same thing as 2 years ago, they shut down every communication links again. And they piss off people by not giving them their early access code for a game most of them already bought and paid again just to get a week in before everyone else.

 

Buy through Amazon and you get it in 5 minutes....

 

I took the plunge because what the hell, had the money and MMORPG is my favorite genre. First impressions....way cool world and atmosphere. The tutorial holding your hand along the way does a good job helping you, just way too many fedex quests. I wanted to just get out and kill some shit but found myself stuck in fetch quest hell in the starter city. You can go out anytime, I just hate lingering quests waiting to be done lol. OCD. Not sure about combat yet, hard to tell with 3 skills, but it is your standard tab target which I'm cool with. Seen some pretty cool mobs out there. Seems there will be tons of opportunity for social interaction, glad to see a "new" MMO get away from this whole dodge roll action crap and get back to old school.

It is truly a great game, server problems aside. My one complaint though is boring gear atm. All it is is stat +'s, no cool effects.
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#62 Joedgabe
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How's the game so far? I'm still on the fence about it.... 

is there anything interesting in the game? how's the game's gameplay and character customization? I was a huge Ragnarok online fan.. just to let you know i'm spoiled with the freedom to do almost any ridiculous build on my character and enjoy it... 

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How's the game so far? I'm still on the fence about it.... 

is there anything interesting in the game? how's the game's gameplay and character customization? I was a huge Ragnarok online fan.. just to let you know i'm spoiled with the freedom to do almost any ridiculous build on my character and enjoy it... 

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I never played Ragnarok, but I am liking ARR reborn so far and the combat is better the ffxi. I am playing archer and love how there is no auto attack.  The battling is a little more fast paced compared to the orignal xiv and the UI is better.  Getting around town is enjoyable and you can teleport places once you touch a crystal.  Character customization is decent enough.  It is way better then how it was in FFXI and it offers more then Guild Wars 2 or The Old Republics character creation.    

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How's the game so far? I'm still on the fence about it.... 

is there anything interesting in the game? how's the game's gameplay and character customization? I was a huge Ragnarok online fan.. just to let you know i'm spoiled with the freedom to do almost any ridiculous build on my character and enjoy it... 

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Character customization sucks, sorry to say. You choose from a few preset eyes, noses, etc. No slider to customize anything other than height, all presets and very few of them. No voice in quests but they still use cut scenes....which make you notice there are no voices. If it were the standard throw up a wall of text with an accept or decline on the bottom you would not notice, but since they have cutscenes with the characters lips moving it is very noticeable. Not game breaking though. I see a lot of old school in this, seems like it can be a very social MMO and I think the community is going to be great. Not far enough in to comment further.
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I would play this (or at least try) if it had no monthly fees. No way im giving them money every month for them to add an expansion which im buying as well so they're taking $30 for the game, $15/month from everyone AND their expansion for $30? wth. This monthly fee need to stop in our day n age.
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So today is the day where the flood gates open. I wouldn't be able to play until tonight and makes me wonder how it will.... As you can see I am itching to get in and play.
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#67 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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I am going to start streaming now for those on the fence about the game. No idea how this will affect my performance and audio might be messed up when i log on team speak later. but here we go http://www.twitch.tv/synikx
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#68 Joedgabe
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[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

How's the game so far? I'm still on the fence about it.... 

is there anything interesting in the game? how's the game's gameplay and character customization? I was a huge Ragnarok online fan.. just to let you know i'm spoiled with the freedom to do almost any ridiculous build on my character and enjoy it... 

vfibsux

Character customization sucks, sorry to say. You choose from a few preset eyes, noses, etc. No slider to customize anything other than height, all presets and very few of them. No voice in quests but they still use cut scenes....which make you notice there are no voices. If it were the standard throw up a wall of text with an accept or decline on the bottom you would not notice, but since they have cutscenes with the characters lips moving it is very noticeable. Not game breaking though. I see a lot of old school in this, seems like it can be a very social MMO and I think the community is going to be great. Not far enough in to comment further.

I'm sorry but i don't really care much about character looks.... where i'm from.. character customization revolves around your character build and how you play with the character you create your own way... not how you dress them... that's very minimal gameplay wise..... what i'm asking is how are the character builds ? do they just follow one path ? are all the knights / archer and so on going to be the same with different gear setting them appart art only ? I have games that make you craft gems and sockets to differentiate stat bonuses.. it becomes a tedious chore. In ragnarok For example you could have made an Attack speed knight that grinded with attacking increrebly fast and dodging enemy attacks.. or made a tanky knight that gathered enemies around while a Mage AOe'd them to death or go a PvP path witch was a hybrid damage and tanky to sustain and hit stronger enemies that ditched more exp ( but was recommended a priest to help you or be rich with a gazillion pots ) <<<<<<<<<<<<<< that's... character customization. You assigned your character your stat points and stat boost came from regular items and cards that had fixed stats not having to play on crafting gems.

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[QUOTE="Arthas045"]Sounds like it may be best to wait a week or two before jumping in lol. I was looking forward to starting it back up tomorrow, but not going to go through the headache. IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
Smart move. Regardless if NA is up, I will be streaming tomorrow. Will post the link in this thread. If NA is down, I will be streaming my JP character. A warning, I largely have no idea what i am doing in the game and just taking it one step at a time.

accept every quest you come across, look at the objectives, figure out the most optimal way to go about it, deliver quests, repeat :P
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#70 Arthas045
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I am going to start streaming now for those on the fence about the game. No idea how this will affect my performance and audio might be messed up when i log on team speak later. but here we go http://www.twitch.tv/synikxIxX3xil3d0n3XxI
I am going to start streaming now for those on the fence about the game. No idea how this will affect my performance and audio might be messed up when i log on team speak later. but here we go http://www.twitch.tv/synikxIxX3xil3d0n3XxI
Just so you know you are being watched.
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Level 31 White Mage so far, nothing innovative about the MMO itself, more traditional but I prefer it that way.
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would be great if i could actually sign into square enix. everytime i try it gives me errors. Also cant find a code im supposed to use.
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#73 vfibsux
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So today is the day where the flood gates open. I wouldn't be able to play until tonight and makes me wonder how it will.... As you can see I am itching to get in and play.Arthas045
Good luck, can't even get in a queue. I am pretty sick and tired of these f'ing companies doing this on start ups. And anyone about to say "that's what you get for playing at release" you can take that and shove it somewhere.

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#74 FelipeInside
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I am going to start streaming now for those on the fence about the game. No idea how this will affect my performance and audio might be messed up when i log on team speak later. but here we go http://www.twitch.tv/synikxIxX3xil3d0n3XxI

That's one mighty big spear you have there....or are you just happy to see me watching you :P

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#75 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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For you, Felipe? The later.
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I would play this (or at least try) if it had no monthly fees. No way im giving them money every month for them to add an expansion which im buying as well so they're taking $30 for the game, $15/month from everyone AND their expansion for $30? wth. This monthly fee need to stop in our day n age.silversix_
MMo's have been around for more than a decade and you still have no idea what the subscription based model is for?
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#77 Arthas045
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So have they added much end game content? Seems as far as leveling go the game doesn't hold back, but not sure what the end game is looking like. Are the Primes still in the game?
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#78 vfibsux
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So have they added much end game content? Seems as far as leveling go the game doesn't hold back, but not sure what the end game is looking like. Are the Primes still in the game?Arthas045
Wouldn't know, can't ****ing log on along with the majority of people who bought this pos. I swear to God I would take a refund and forget this game existed at this point if I could. Any company that can suck this bad during early release does not deserve my money.
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[QUOTE="Arthas045"]So have they added much end game content? Seems as far as leveling go the game doesn't hold back, but not sure what the end game is looking like. Are the Primes still in the game?vfibsux
Wouldn't know, can't ****ing log on along with the majority of people who bought this pos. I swear to God I would take a refund and forget this game existed at this point if I could. Any company that can suck this bad during early release does not deserve my money.

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[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="Arthas045"]So have they added much end game content? Seems as far as leveling go the game doesn't hold back, but not sure what the end game is looking like. Are the Primes still in the game?FelipeInside

Wouldn't know, can't ****ing log on along with the majority of people who bought this pos. I swear to God I would take a refund and forget this game existed at this point if I could. Any company that can suck this bad during early release does not deserve my money.

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You know where you can put that dude.

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#81 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="vfibsux"] Wouldn't know, can't ****ing log on along with the majority of people who bought this pos. I swear to God I would take a refund and forget this game existed at this point if I could. Any company that can suck this bad during early release does not deserve my money. vfibsux

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You know where you can put that dude.

LOL I was being jokey just to get a smile out of you. :P You seem stressed over the last couple of days. I feel ur pain though, I remember I couldn't play Diablo3 for a week when it launched, but I just went and played something else in the meantime.
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#82 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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No one really knows about endgame yet. I'll probably sub for a month or 2 before im in endgame and am able to decide if its something that will keep me. vfibsux, I would recommend logging on after primetime hours and just keeping your pc on. I have been playing all day using that method and will continue to do it until SE fixes their shit.
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#83 Arthas045
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Man I want to jump in but undecided if I want to go with the cjance of not getting in.
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#84 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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Man I want to jump in but undecided if I want to go with the cjance of not getting in.Arthas045
The servers are completely borked atm. They are doing a "emergency maintenance" from 12-3am PST, so hopefully it will be more stable. I think ill just go to sleep now and wake up early.

edit: unless you have friends to play with the JP servers have a very good connection. I noticed no issues when I was on them and they are always up. 

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So have they added much end game content? Seems as far as leveling go the game doesn't hold back, but not sure what the end game is looking like. Are the Primes still in the game?Arthas045
Ifrit, Garuda and Titan are currently in. for extreme modes ect. Crystal Tower Raid was suppose to be in for launch but is now 2.1. Labrythn of Bahamut is in, but is meant to be after Crystal Tower so might be near impossible for awhile. Odin is in as a random FATE world boss. Shiva, Rumah and Leviathan are "in future updates"
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#86 xWoW_Rougex
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As usual I end up having rather smooth launch experiences. Yesterday I created a character in Couerl (NA) played for like 3 hours without a single problem, I just encountered one single goldseller as well (and I ignored him quickly).  Today I logged in like 20 minutes ago and current it's looking smooth.

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[QUOTE="Arthas045"]So have they added much end game content? Seems as far as leveling go the game doesn't hold back, but not sure what the end game is looking like. Are the Primes still in the game?MBirdy88
Ifrit, Garuda and Titan are currently in. for extreme modes ect. Crystal Tower Raid was suppose to be in for launch but is now 2.1. Labrythn of Bahamut is in, but is meant to be after Crystal Tower so might be near impossible for awhile. Odin is in as a random FATE world boss. Shiva, Rumah and Leviathan are "in future updates"

To expand on that, I believe they have plans to raise the level cap to 100+, and I can definitely see new jobs and classes down the line.
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#88 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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Here are 2 posts about SE's plans to expand the servers. Hopefully, the servers should be fixed by next week. 

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/943fa6090d46a00d08cf709134d7c59b9e695188

and

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/0edd08e8117972bca5bb6abbb07c1574f8a6f73a

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I'm holding off. I want to play an MMO but I don't know which one. I don't want to go back to Guild Wars 2. I'm thinking of just buying the Rift expansion and playing that.

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#90 silversix_
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I'm holding off. I want to play an MMO but I don't know which one. I don't want to go back to Guild Wars 2. I'm thinking of just buying the Rift expansion and playing that.

Wasdie

For how long did you play gw2?

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Level 35 onwards the Dungeons start to get challenging, sunken temple was absolutely amazing. As a healer I run out of mana often, boss fights are starting to get intense. I have high hopes for the end game already. It feels like Vanilla/TBC difficulty again, where you actually had to try. Expectations are met... and then some. has its little quirks.... but mostly delivers. none of this trinityless bulls*it. good traditional MMO with that final fantasy flavour.
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#92 silversix_
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Level 35 onwards the Dungeons start to get challenging, sunken temple was absolutely amazing. As a healer I run out of mana often, boss fights are starting to get intense. I have high hopes for the end game already. It feels like Vanilla/TBC difficulty again, where you actually had to try. Expectations are met... and then some. has its little quirks.... but mostly delivers. none of this trinityless bulls*it. good traditional MMO with that final fantasy flavour.MBirdy88
reading this just makes me jelly because its none existent in the mmo im currently playing and will probably never be 'intense'

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Level 35 onwards the Dungeons start to get challenging, sunken temple was absolutely amazing. As a healer I run out of mana often, boss fights are starting to get intense. I have high hopes for the end game already. It feels like Vanilla/TBC difficulty again, where you actually had to try. Expectations are met... and then some. has its little quirks.... but mostly delivers. none of this trinityless bulls*it. good traditional MMO with that final fantasy flavour.silversix_

reading this just makes me jelly because its none existent in the mmo im currently playing and will probably never be 'intense'

You sound butthurt. Let me know when Guild Wars get's PvE content bigger than 5 players. which is actually good.
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#94 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Level 35 onwards the Dungeons start to get challenging, sunken temple was absolutely amazing. As a healer I run out of mana often, boss fights are starting to get intense. I have high hopes for the end game already. It feels like Vanilla/TBC difficulty again, where you actually had to try. Expectations are met... and then some. has its little quirks.... but mostly delivers. none of this trinityless bulls*it. good traditional MMO with that final fantasy flavour.MBirdy88

reading this just makes me jelly because its none existent in the mmo im currently playing and will probably never be 'intense'

  Let me know when Guild Wars get's PvE content bigger than 5 players. which is actually good.

I haven't gotten here yet but this looks big

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1JfSbKjHHI

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="silversix_"]reading this just makes me jelly because its none existent in the mmo im currently playing and will probably never be 'intense'

FelipeInside

  Let me know when Guild Wars get's PvE content bigger than 5 players. which is actually good.

I haven't gotten here yet but this looks big

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1JfSbKjHHI" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1JfSbKjHHI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1JfSbKjHHI

Not quite what I'm referring to. there is nothing challenging about that encounter or any other of the giant world fights... they are mindless zergs although flashy.
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#96 MLBknights58
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I played a bit during the beta and wasn't impressed.

Now I'm watching my friends play it via Twitch.tv, and I gotta say I'm intrigued.  The fights I saw looked challenging, frantic and very coordinated.  Looks excellent actually.

I'm probably gonna dive in sooner or later, I need a game to waste time on till I go to boot camp.

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ughhh. i would really love for a server to open up. All NA and EU servers full and i really dont want to play on the japanese servers.
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#98 silversix_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Level 35 onwards the Dungeons start to get challenging, sunken temple was absolutely amazing. As a healer I run out of mana often, boss fights are starting to get intense. I have high hopes for the end game already. It feels like Vanilla/TBC difficulty again, where you actually had to try. Expectations are met... and then some. has its little quirks.... but mostly delivers. none of this trinityless bulls*it. good traditional MMO with that final fantasy flavour.MBirdy88

reading this just makes me jelly because its none existent in the mmo im currently playing and will probably never be 'intense'

You sound butthurt. Let me know when Guild Wars get's PvE content bigger than 5 players. which is actually good.

why would i be jelly? i said that's what i want----challenging content, dumbass.

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#99 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]  Let me know when Guild Wars get's PvE content bigger than 5 players. which is actually good.MBirdy88

I haven't gotten here yet but this looks big

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1JfSbKjHHI" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1JfSbKjHHI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1JfSbKjHHI

Not quite what I'm referring to. there is nothing challenging about that encounter or any other of the giant world fights... they are mindless zergs although flashy.

When people use the word "challenging", what exactly do they mean? PvE, PvP, World Bosses etc? Cause I mostly play the PvE in GW2 and some battles are quite fun and challenging....
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#100 Arthas045
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For some reason I had 15 days left on my account. I went ahead and jumped on an EU server.