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#101 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Level 35 onwards the Dungeons start to get challenging, sunken temple was absolutely amazing. As a healer I run out of mana often, boss fights are starting to get intense. I have high hopes for the end game already. It feels like Vanilla/TBC difficulty again, where you actually had to try. Expectations are met... and then some. has its little quirks.... but mostly delivers. none of this trinityless bulls*it. good traditional MMO with that final fantasy flavour.MBirdy88

reading this just makes me jelly because its none existent in the mmo im currently playing and will probably never be 'intense'

You sound butthurt. Let me know when Guild Wars get's PvE content bigger than 5 players. which is actually good.

you should take a look at this month's invasion events. zone-wide chains of event that yes, can fail if the map doesn't coordinate properly.

 

but i digress, this thread is about FF XIV, let's not derail it.

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#102 Geminon
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i recommend that everyone hold off on this game for atleast 2 weeks. if you try to play between the hours of about 8am and midnight, you will NOT be able to log in. however, after this whole thing is resolved, please DO check the game out. it is quite fantastic.
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#103 KABCOOL
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I want to play this so bad! but I feel like $30 on top of subscription fee is just too expensive for me when I have better things to spend my money on.  

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i recommend that everyone hold off on this game for atleast 2 weeks. if you try to play between the hours of about 8am and midnight, you will NOT be able to log in. however, after this whole thing is resolved, please DO check the game out. it is quite fantastic.Geminon

Can u expand on that and explain why it's fantastic?

I've only watched gameplay videos and it seems like another MMO but I haven't played it so can't really say that as a fact.

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#105 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Geminon"]i recommend that everyone hold off on this game for atleast 2 weeks. if you try to play between the hours of about 8am and midnight, you will NOT be able to log in. however, after this whole thing is resolved, please DO check the game out. it is quite fantastic.FelipeInside

Can u expand on that and explain why it's fantastic?

I've only watched gameplay videos and it seems like another MMO but I haven't played it so can't really say that as a fact.

it is "just another MMO", but it's very well executed and has a charming world.
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#106 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="silversix_"]reading this just makes me jelly because its none existent in the mmo im currently playing and will probably never be 'intense'

BrunoBRS

You sound butthurt. Let me know when Guild Wars get's PvE content bigger than 5 players. which is actually good.

you should take a look at this month's invasion events. zone-wide chains of event that yes, can fail if the map doesn't coordinate properly.

 

but i digress, this thread is about FF XIV, let's not derail it.

Understandable.
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[QUOTE="Geminon"]i recommend that everyone hold off on this game for atleast 2 weeks. if you try to play between the hours of about 8am and midnight, you will NOT be able to log in. however, after this whole thing is resolved, please DO check the game out. it is quite fantastic.FelipeInside

Can u expand on that and explain why it's fantastic?

I've only watched gameplay videos and it seems like another MMO but I haven't played it so can't really say that as a fact.

it quite easily has the most content you will ever find in an MMO at launch. if you get bored or cant find something to do, it is your OWN fault. it is also very slick and well executed. it also has many classes and systems that you just wont find in most current MMOs. graphics are gorgeous. gameplay is smooth. story is decent. also... noteworthy features: houses (both personal and guild) chocobos advanced jobs skill sharing crafting classes phased levequests/guildhests this isnt FF14 1.0..... the team has done an insane job of overhauling almost every aspect of the game. the game offers more than any other MMO at launch to date. it is worth checking out.
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#108 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="Geminon"]i recommend that everyone hold off on this game for atleast 2 weeks. if you try to play between the hours of about 8am and midnight, you will NOT be able to log in. however, after this whole thing is resolved, please DO check the game out. it is quite fantastic.Geminon

Can u expand on that and explain why it's fantastic?

I've only watched gameplay videos and it seems like another MMO but I haven't played it so can't really say that as a fact.

it quite easily has the most content you will ever find in an MMO at launch. if you get bored or cant find something to do, it is your OWN fault. it is also very slick and well executed. it also has many classes and systems that you just wont find in most current MMOs. graphics are gorgeous. gameplay is smooth. story is decent. also... noteworthy features: houses (both personal and guild) chocobos advanced jobs skill sharing crafting classes phased levequests/guildhests this isnt FF14 1.0..... the team has done an insane job of overhauling almost every aspect of the game. the game offers more than any other MMO at launch to date. it is worth checking out.

Well, this does it.

I will get the game, once the stability is fixed. Seems like stability is the one concern MMORPG.com has as well, calling it an otherwise great experience.

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#109 FelipeInside
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Has this been the first Final Fantasy MMO? For some reason I just don't see the series as stable.... it's like this one will be out a few years and then all of a sudden FF15 Online etc.
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#110 Arthas045
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Has this been the first Final Fantasy MMO? For some reason I just don't see the series as stable.... it's like this one will be out a few years and then all of a sudden FF15 Online etc.

Final Fantasy 11 was an MMO and was pretty successful. I really enjoy and put the most hours into that MMO. After playing FF14 I can say this game is going to keep me entertained for awhile. As far as a MMO at launch it has plenty of low end content and reading other posts plenty of high end stuff.
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#111 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Has this been the first Final Fantasy MMO? For some reason I just don't see the series as stable.... it's like this one will be out a few years and then all of a sudden FF15 Online etc.Arthas045
Final Fantasy 11 was an MMO and was pretty successful. I really enjoy and put the most hours into that MMO. After playing FF14 I can say this game is going to keep me entertained for awhile. As far as a MMO at launch it has plenty of low end content and reading other posts plenty of high end stuff.

Not only was it successful, but it was quite a huge step forward for the genre, being one of the most influential mmos of all time.

FF15 is being made. But it is a single player game. And I do believe they will leave the mmo space alone for a while and create a few more SP games before coming up with another FF mmo.

The span between this rebirth and the last FF mmo is a decade.

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#112 Arthas045
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What site does everyone use for detailed information on the game? I have been using http://www.ffxivinfo.com/ which is fine, but I didn't know if someone usesd another site that could be better.

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#113 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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What site does everyone use for detailed information on the game? I have been using http://www.ffxivinfo.com/ which is fine, but I didn't know if someone usesd another site that could be better.

Arthas045

There are quite a few. I use http://xivdb.com/ as the main database one. Check out the post in my OP, the last link I added, in the 2nd post he details pretty much every useful link possible. 

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From the videos I have watched of this it doesn't look "That" amazing. The gameplay looks a LOT like what World of Warcraft, has offered for years now just with prettier eye candy.

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#115 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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From the videos I have watched of this it doesn't look "That" amazing. The gameplay looks a LOT like what World of Warcraft, has offered for years now just with prettier eye candy.

TwistedShade
Well yea essentially, only it works well with controllers do since its a cross-platform MMO. Nice difference NOW is. its actually difficult, challenging and alot to do. takes awhile to really hit its stride though. after 30+ the classes and their roles come into their own.
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#116 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="TwistedShade"]

From the videos I have watched of this it doesn't look "That" amazing. The gameplay looks a LOT like what World of Warcraft, has offered for years now just with prettier eye candy.

MBirdy88
Well yea essentially, only it works well with controllers do since its a cross-platform MMO. Nice difference NOW is. its actually difficult, challenging and alot to do. takes awhile to really hit its stride though. after 30+ the classes and their roles come into their own.

Are the console players together with the PC players? That's really cool I reckon if so.
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#117 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="TwistedShade"]

From the videos I have watched of this it doesn't look "That" amazing. The gameplay looks a LOT like what World of Warcraft, has offered for years now just with prettier eye candy.

FelipeInside
Well yea essentially, only it works well with controllers do since its a cross-platform MMO. Nice difference NOW is. its actually difficult, challenging and alot to do. takes awhile to really hit its stride though. after 30+ the classes and their roles come into their own.

Are the console players together with the PC players? That's really cool I reckon if so.

Yup, though I've played mostly exclusively with real life freinds to this point so I can't say I've played with any.
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#118 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Well yea essentially, only it works well with controllers do since its a cross-platform MMO. Nice difference NOW is. its actually difficult, challenging and alot to do. takes awhile to really hit its stride though. after 30+ the classes and their roles come into their own.

Are the console players together with the PC players? That's really cool I reckon if so.

Yup, though I've played mostly exclusively with real life freinds to this point so I can't say I've played with any.

Does it show you who is on console and who is on PC? Not that it matters but just curious.
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Are the console players together with the PC players? That's really cool I reckon if so.

Yup, though I've played mostly exclusively with real life freinds to this point so I can't say I've played with any.

Does it show you who is on console and who is on PC? Not that it matters but just curious.

I don't think so, though you can tell who is using a controller at least by the way they walk. they don't backstep like normal mmos, more like a console game where it turns you around instantly and walks you back towards the camera.
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#120 silversix_
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I heard end game is extremely challenging and the main reason i will probably play this when it goes f2p (unless PSO2 comes out...). The kind of end-game FF14 has is all i ever wanted in gw2 but didn't even get 1% of it.
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#121 RyviusARC
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Already a bunch of bots in FF14.....

 

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^^ how the hell can bots and gold sellers appear so quickly? Worst scum.
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#123 Maroxad
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^^ how the hell can bots and gold sellers appear so quickly? Worst scum.FelipeInside

Never underestimate the speed botters and gold sellers can appear.

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#124 Geminon
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Has this been the first Final Fantasy MMO? For some reason I just don't see the series as stable.... it's like this one will be out a few years and then all of a sudden FF15 Online etc.

2nd... and its been like 10 years since the first one came out
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#125 Geminon
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Are the console players together with the PC players? That's really cool I reckon if so.

Yup, though I've played mostly exclusively with real life freinds to this point so I can't say I've played with any.

Does it show you who is on console and who is on PC? Not that it matters but just curious.

no, there is no differentiation... infact if you are on PC and wanna play with a controller, you can.
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#126 Geminon
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I heard end game is extremely challenging and the main reason i will probably play this when it goes f2p (unless PSO2 comes out...). The kind of end-game FF14 has is all i ever wanted in gw2 but didn't even get 1% of it.silversix_
SE has already stated that it will not, under any circumstances, take FF14 free to play. the official statement is that it will either be a subscription game, or it will not exist.
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#127 Geminon
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Already a bunch of bots in FF14.....

 

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unfortunately i have noticed a bit of gold spam popping up.... but we arent talking Aion levels here. basically there will be ONE bot in a town spamming. block them, and you wont see any more for a while.
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#128 Maroxad
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This is pretty cool, 150,000 concurrent users. Which is more than what most f2p mmos have players ;)

http://www.gamingunion.net/news/final-fantasy-xiv-smashes-open-beta-record--9634.html

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#129 FelipeInside
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Wish I could try it but I think I'm gonna skip this one.

I've never really liked the character models for FF games, they all look too Anime if you know what I mean.

But it's good news that it's doing well, although it's just launch week so obviously lots of people are going to try it. See how it goes a few months down the track.

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#130 lawlessx
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Will buy after a month..need to see how things go
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#131 Geminon
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This is pretty cool, 150,000 concurrent users. Which is more than what most f2p mmos have players ;)

http://www.gamingunion.net/news/final-fantasy-xiv-smashes-open-beta-record--9634.html

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the game had over 200k preorders between PS3 and PC if i understand right.... so it has quite a few users
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#132 Geminon
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Wish I could try it but I think I'm gonna skip this one.

I've never really liked the character models for FF games, they all look too Anime if you know what I mean.

But it's good news that it's doing well, although it's just launch week so obviously lots of people are going to try it. See how it goes a few months down the track.

FelipeInside

that looks like anime? those are actual character models...

i will admit that lalafell have anime eyes, but the rest of the races actually go for realism more than anything.

there are all the races... actual character models. looks pretty good to me :)

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#133 FelipeInside
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^^ Yeah to me they do.... maybe Anime isn't the right word. Too Japanese??
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Any word on when the server capacities will increase?  I wanna get the digital version but SE has frozen all digital sales until they up the cap.  Sad day. 

Edit: Also, is sub free required for first month?  Or is it a free month then sub kicks in.

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^^ how the hell can bots and gold sellers appear so quickly? Worst scum.FelipeInside
they tend to be the most prominent early on, actually. before the anti-bot measures have enough data to counter the bots and gold sellers. then they show up again once the devs start giving up on the game.
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#136 Geminon
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Any word on when the server capacities will increase?  I wanna get the digital version but SE has frozen all digital sales until they up the cap.  Sad day. 

Edit: Also, is sub free required for first month?  Or is it a free month then sub kicks in.

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early next week according to dev posts on the forums. stay tuned to the lodestone to see when it officially happens. yes, first month is "free"
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#137 IxX3xil3d0n3XxI
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**Update**

The director of the game posted a article about the server issues, its a interesting and information filled read. 

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**Update**

The director of the game posted a article about the server issues, its a interesting and information filled read. 

IxX3xil3d0n3XxI

Such a shame they had these server issues.... but every big MMO does at launch. Maybe one day in the future there will be technology capable of handling these launches better.

BTW how's the STORY in this game.  Lots of people talk about difficultiy and all that but I like a good story in my MMOs.

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#139 Geminon
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[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"]

**Update**

The director of the game posted a article about the server issues, its a interesting and information filled read. 

FelipeInside

Such a shame they had these server issues.... but every big MMO does at launch. Maybe one day in the future there will be technology capable of handling these launches better.

BTW how's the STORY in this game.  Lots of people talk about difficultiy and all that but I like a good story in my MMOs.

typical final fantasy story. it is sort of like SWTOR, how each zone kinda has its own story, but then your character has a story arc that they follow. i would say it is far far far better than most MMOs, but not quite as good as a single player final fantasy story. it is fleshed out enough to keep you interested and doing the quests, but doesnt quite have the depth or breadth that a single player RPG has. then again, the game tells like 4+ stories all at the same time, one for your city state, one for your grand company, one for your class, and the main storyline.... it is a lot to juggle.
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Level 44 Story Quest NO SPOILERS - but omg badass as hell. all I'm saying.
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#141 FelipeInside
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I've also noticed they have cut-scenes. I've been watching some and they are great, shame it doesn't have voiced acting.
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[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"]

**Update**

The director of the game posted a article about the server issues, its a interesting and information filled read. 

FelipeInside

Such a shame they had these server issues.... but every big MMO does at launch. Maybe one day in the future there will be technology capable of handling these launches better.

BTW how's the STORY in this game.  Lots of people talk about difficultiy and all that but I like a good story in my MMOs.

Not like this man. I have played every big name MMO since UO and do not recall ever having one that was this bad, so bad they stopped digital sales?! The only way to play this game right now is to spam logging in over and over. There are people using autohotkey macros to do it for them it is so bad, can still take 30-60 minutes on autopilot just to get in the queue. Then you have to be lucky enough to stay in the queue without it kicking you back out.
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#143 vfibsux
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I've also noticed they have cut-scenes. I've been watching some and they are great, shame it doesn't have voiced acting.FelipeInside
Yea I don't care about no voice acting, but when you have the cutscene and make their mouths moved it is very awkward without it.
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#144 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"]

**Update**

The director of the game posted a article about the server issues, its a interesting and information filled read. 

vfibsux

Such a shame they had these server issues.... but every big MMO does at launch. Maybe one day in the future there will be technology capable of handling these launches better.

BTW how's the STORY in this game.  Lots of people talk about difficultiy and all that but I like a good story in my MMOs.

Not like this man. I have played every big name MMO since UO and do not recall ever having one that was this bad, so bad they stopped digital sales?! The only way to play this game right now is to spam logging in over and over. There are people using autohotkey macros to do it for them it is so bad, can still take 30-60 minutes on autopilot just to get in the queue. Then you have to be lucky enough to stay in the queue without it kicking you back out.

Yeah looks bad, but at least the lead designer came out and apologized and explained in great detail what was happening. Hopefully they get it sorted soon. I think GW2 also stopped digital sales cause of server issues if I remember correctly.
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I've also noticed they have cut-scenes. I've been watching some and they are great, shame it doesn't have voiced acting.FelipeInside
Some of them do, its kinda weird that they are not all voice acted. but major events are. Given that they only had 2 years to completely remake the game there are elements to improve naturally.
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

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**Update**

The director of the game posted a article about the server issues, its a interesting and information filled read. 

vfibsux

Such a shame they had these server issues.... but every big MMO does at launch. Maybe one day in the future there will be technology capable of handling these launches better.

BTW how's the STORY in this game.  Lots of people talk about difficultiy and all that but I like a good story in my MMOs.

Not like this man. I have played every big name MMO since UO and do not recall ever having one that was this bad, so bad they stopped digital sales?! The only way to play this game right now is to spam logging in over and over. There are people using autohotkey macros to do it for them it is so bad, can still take 30-60 minutes on autopilot just to get in the queue. Then you have to be lucky enough to stay in the queue without it kicking you back out.

Didn't Guild Wars 2 have to stop digital orders aswell? though it wasn't this bad. 30-60 minutes... yeesh... i've been on and off none stop for the last week and I had to spam it for 5 minutes once. Shame, my girlfreind can't play at all though because she cannot create a character on our server. I didn't expect this level of players neither did the company. hard balance to strike. remember this is a relaunch of a title that is probably one of the lowest scoring AAA-company MMO's of all time, a complete disaster. But I guess that sthe power of the FF brand and a genuinley good remake.
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#147 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I've also noticed they have cut-scenes. I've been watching some and they are great, shame it doesn't have voiced acting.vfibsux
Yea I don't care about no voice acting, but when you have the cutscene and make their mouths moved it is very awkward without it.

i thought they said the cutscenes would all be fully VA'd at launch. odd.
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#148 Arthas045
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[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I've also noticed they have cut-scenes. I've been watching some and they are great, shame it doesn't have voiced acting.BrunoBRS
Yea I don't care about no voice acting, but when you have the cutscene and make their mouths moved it is very awkward without it.

i thought they said the cutscenes would all be fully VA'd at launch. odd.

Some of the main story missions have voice work... Granted its not very good.... The normal find the worst english voice actors for a japanese rpg scenario.
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[QUOTE="Arthas045"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="vfibsux"] Yea I don't care about no voice acting, but when you have the cutscene and make their mouths moved it is very awkward without it.

i thought they said the cutscenes would all be fully VA'd at launch. odd.

Some of the main story missions have voice work... Granted its not very good.... The normal find the worst english voice actors for a japanese rpg scenario.

Yea, the voice acting is terrible. I would've preferred JP voice acting or none altogether. But so far that's my only complaint, as I've been having a blast playing this game.
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^^ how the hell can bots and gold sellers appear so quickly? Worst scum.FelipeInside
Yes, worse than a murderer, raspiest, terrorist, etc. Good call