Why doesnt everyone like mac?

This guy sums up my view on Macs.

Cause developers don't support it that well but I know a ton of people with a mac.

id love to a get a Macbook Pro so i can do my graphic design eddy96_1

[QUOTE="eddy96_1"]id love to a get a Macbook Pro so i can do my graphic design SinfulPotato

Mac is easier for the end user to use than anything on Windows.

[QUOTE="eddy96_1"]id love to a get a Macbook Pro so i can do my graphic design SinfulPotato

[QUOTE="SinfulPotato"][QUOTE="eddy96_1"]id love to a get a Macbook Pro so i can do my graphic design Varny

Mac is easier for the end user to use than anything on Windows.

Says who? Where is the evidence of this?

LOL. OP needs to get off the stigma that Macs don't crash. My sister's Macbook crashed 30 minutes after she finished registration. All she had been doing at that point was loading music onto it.

Macbooks and Macbook Pros don't even had decent speakers. My Toshiba laptop was $200 less, had 2 hard drives (each larger than the 1 on the Macbook), and 4 speakers that were phenomenal.

Like many have said here. Apple is banking on old stigmas and the little Apple logo on it. People related Ipod to Mac so therefore think Macs are the ultimate and cool thing to have.

A variety of things.

Mainly the inflated price tag, limits of applications on the OS, gaming (of course), negative quirks of the OS (windows has its own of course), and just the general difference in navigation when accessing things like system properties (i.e resource management in the task manager).

Otherwise the I think the industrial design of Macintosh computers to be fantastic, despite horrible prephrials like the overpriced 'mighty mouse'.

And I say that after frequently using a variety of Mac computers since 2005, be it top of the line iMacs each year, to more recently this year, the high end tower varieties designed for rendering.

Using them so frequently hasn't changed my attitude towards them.

id love to a get a Macbook Pro so i can do my graphic design uni work whilst im away but they are very expensive. Macs dont come close to PC's for gaming but they are easily better than PC's for design work.eddy96_1

Sound and audio design - yes.

Anything else?

No.

I am studying a design course at university using Adobe CS4 Suites and Maya frequently, I can easily say there is no benefit whatsoever, factoring in applications like 3D studio max, let alone the ease of importing assets directly to games, Macintosh computers are a huge negative.

According to Mac users a very large majority of people are just stupid. How else can you explain people getting PCs instead of Macs? Elite effete snobs these Mac people are. I believe that if they were so much better the public would be buying them correspondingly because unlike some I don't think most people are stupid.

Lack of games for me.

Mac is easier for the end user to use than anything on Windows.Varny

That's funny, I spent 6 years fixing PCs and Macs full time and the only different in the end user was their pocketbook. I still spent half my "repair" time teaching people how to actually use their Macs. So if someone doesn't know how to use Windows it's because Windows is "harder," but if they don't know how to use a Mac they're incompetent? I'm a mac fan as well, but seriously, spare me the whole "Mac is easier than Windows" argument. It's a tired an untrue argument reserved for commercials and fanboys.

You know how many people still don't understand that closing a window in a Mac program still doesn't shutdown the program?

[QUOTE="eddy96_1"]id love to a get a Macbook Pro so i can do my graphic design uni work whilst im away but they are very expensive. Macs dont come close to PC's for gaming but they are easily better than PC's for design work.skrat_01

Sound and audio design - yes.

Anything else?

No.

I am studying a design course at university using Adobe CS4 Suites and Maya frequently, I can easily say there is no benefit whatsoever, factoring in applications like 3D studio max, let alone the ease of importing assets directly to games, Macintosh computers are a huge negative.

Macs are fancy looking computers but when it comes to freedom, they offer very little. They are people who are not really interested in tweaking their computer beyond the factory settings, and call tech support to install a printer. I am not saying Windows users are any better, but basically, its more about looks than actual functionality.

Believe me, I used a Mac, and I cannot think of a single reason to migrate, given that everything a Mac can do, my PC can do, and more importantly, it does not let you play games. Of course, you can install Windows on it, but isn't that really pointless? Might as well use a Windows machine.

Isnt that weird? A lot of you keep on mentioning the same thing over and over again. Price, games. Well like I said the reason why most people dont have macs are that they just arent willing to part with the cash and just because of no games they would pass up on the opportunity to have an amazing machine. Before I got my mac I used to think the same way, too expensive no games. But then when I got the mac I realised how great they really are and I have been missing out on a lot. Whenever I use school or home computers they always freeze up and just take a long time to load. I really used to get frustrated about this but now I dont need to fear this problem anymore. Also I have noticed that viruses are a huge issue with windows operating systems as it is really annoying

Isnt that weird? A lot of you keep on mentioning the same thing over and over again. Price, games. Well like I said the reason why most people dont have macs are that they just arent willing to part with the cash and just because of no games they would pass up on the opportunity to have an amazing machine. Before I got my mac I used to think the same way, too expensive no games. But then when I got the mac I realised how great they really are and I have been missing out on a lot. Whenever I use school or home computers they always freeze up and just take a long time to load. I really used to get frustrated about this but now I dont need to fear this problem anymore. Also I have noticed that viruses are a huge issue with windows operating systems as it is really annoying

bm1212

Utter steaming bs.

Only get freezes when GUI just loaded and OS services are starting.

Viruses are an issue only if you go to *certain* websites.

That is not true you can very easily get warnings saying that you are infected by a virus and you have to download software to get rid of it. Actually the software itself is a virus and this doesnt come from *those* websites. In reality viruses can come from even the most innocent looking thing.

That is not true you can very easily get warnings saying that you are infected by a virus and you have to download software to get rid of it. Actually the software itself is a virus and this doesnt come from *those* websites. In reality viruses can come from even the most innocent looking thing.

bm1212

Reality is Windows is more secure despite being so heavily targeted.

And honestly comparing them to school computers? You give any computer to general use of many people and it will take its toll regardless of the hardware. I have seen enough iMacs lock up constantly, and once simply die - with no BSOD warning, it refused to boot after, in such cases.

If you are going to compare in the first place then you are going to have to set some bias aside.

"bm1212":

"Me, being an owner of a macbook pro, have always wondered why people just opt for the windows pcs. The mac operating systems are far more simpler to use and arent as frustrating to use as a windows os. The only real factor that seems to matter to people is the price of what they are buying and the prices of the macs can triple a windows laptop with the same specs. And also there arent many apps that can be compatible with the macs but that isnt an issue because there is also the option of putting a windows os on a mac. Overall, the macs are just much more high quality and just gives more satisfaction than any other computers. Trust me on this, you really would be better off with a mac."

You're argument:

- Your opinion that the GUI is easier to use.

- You can spend more on a Mac for the exact same PC build! (We all love throwing away cash, after all)

- You can buy the WINDOWS OS to make programs work on Mac. (You mean that I can convert to Mac so I can spend more and still have to buy windows? Sounds like a GREAT DEAL!)

- Your opinion that macs are more satisfying

- That we should trust you

Some of you guys have said that windows computers arent that "hard" to use. Well obviously you can use it but the macs are just easier. Windows tend to slow down drastically over a short period of time whereas the macs take a lot more time to slow down and run very smoothly. The reason I say that windows can be hard to use is that they frequently freeze up and dont run as smoothly. Even high spec windows pcs can freeze up which is painstakingly annoying and the worst thing about this is that it cant be avoided. Look guys, just try a mac for yourselves, those of you who havent got one, for a while and see the difference. Honestly I have had my macbook pro for while now but I still feel just as excited to use it as the day I bought it, quality stuff.

bm1212

Your argument:

- We can use windows, but you have the opinion that macs are easier to use (whoa, your logic is unbeatable there, this is clearly impossible to debate)

- A completely and totally baseless claim that somehow PCs have a "slow down" rate over time... (if you take care of your computer properly, this will not happen on either Mac or PC, there is no difference)

- PCs freeze (I've never had mine freeze, I've been PC my whole life. Both OS can freeze if you do not handle them properly)

- We should trust you, and "look guys..."

Isnt that weird? A lot of you keep on mentioning the same thing over and over again. Price, games. Well like I said the reason why most people dont have macs are that they just arent willing to part with the cash and just because of no games they would pass up on the opportunity to have an amazing machine. Before I got my mac I used to think the same way, too expensive no games. But then when I got the mac I realised how great they really are and I have been missing out on a lot. Whenever I use school or home computers they always freeze up and just take a long time to load. I really used to get frustrated about this but now I dont need to fear this problem anymore. Also I have noticed that viruses are a huge issue with windows operating systems as it is really annoying

bm1212

Your argument:

- Just because people love games does not mean you should play them, in fact, you ought to part with your games so you can pay 3x the money to have an "Amazing machine" (which you have yet to provide any reason why it's so amazing... "freezing" doesn't count, because neither OS tend to freeze these days when treated properly)

- Bm1212 gets too many viruses

- Bm1212 doesn't take care of his computers very well, and so he has a shiny new Mac (eventually your Mac will break down when it's as old as your windows computers, seeing as how you aren't cleaning them out enough)

.. You know, new computers will always run better than old ones. Just because your old PCs run like crap compared to your new Mac doesn't mean that all PCs suck. I upgrade my computer ever three years and build an entire new one ever six, just because I enjoy the latest hardware. Eventually, as new software comes out, old hardware gets slower. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A MAC OR A PC.

Also,

Isnt that weird... you keep on mentioning the same thing over and over again. bm1212

My PC has never frozen and I've never had a virus on it either. I don't look at internet porn in order to avoid the viruses. I don't need to throw away cash on the overpriced hardware that Apple offers. My computer is extremely fast and at least half the cost of a similar Mac build.

I have yet to see bm1212 make any kind of solid argument. Seems like he can't keep his eyes off of virus-infested pornography websites, and his house is kept in an extremely hot condition which causes lock ups because of heat... or maybe it's all that porn that he watches that causes the freezing...

Wow a lot of you seem to say that windows is better, interesting... Maybe mostof you havent actually tried mac yet for a long period and used it to the best of its ability.

Wow a lot of you seem to say that windows is better, interesting... Maybe mostof you havent actually tried mac yet for a long period and used it to the best of its ability.

bm1212

Wow a lot of you seem to say that windows is better, interesting... Maybe mostof you havent actually tried mac yet for a long period and used it to the best of its ability.

bm1212

My laptop has a GTX260M, P8700 (OC 2.89GHZ), and 6G of RAM, EDIT also 17.3" screen. It cost me $1,200. Without having to separetly buy windows, I can play Crysis with a mix of high and very high settings, and Fallout 3 maxed. Now find a mac for the same price that can do even close to this.

I don't like Macs for several reasons:

-the high price

-the lack of games

-the lack of software compared to Windows

-the lack of freedom in general

-the douchebaggery of the company

-the douchebaggery of the most of of their users

Maybe mostof you havent actually tried mac yet for a long period and used it to the best of its ability.

bm1212

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Wow a lot of you seem to say that windows is better, interesting... Maybe mostof you havent actually tried mac yet for a long period and used it to the best of its ability.

fudgeblood

I'm in the same boat. From elementary school, all the way up to college and then some, I've used Macs in one way or another. I gave it a chance many, many times, but it really is not the best OS. Fudge, you say it like it is, they're terrible. The only thing that Macs have over any other OS is the program Unity. I've used that program to develop some games, but it was only avaliable for Macs - well it was. Now it's for Windows as well. Fancy that. ;)

Wow a lot of you seem to say that windows is better, interesting... Maybe mostof you havent actually tried mac yet for a long period and used it to the best of its ability.

bm1212

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Wow a lot of you seem to say that windows is better, interesting... Maybe mostof you havent actually tried mac yet for a long period and used it to the best of its ability.

MrWednesday14

I work at a PC retail store and at least once a week, some times more, a custoemr will come in to ask questions and they will be flanked by a Mac friend who badmouths PCs and spouts garbage like Macs can't get viruses. I also get the odd person who is actually angry I don't sell Macs. I really dislike dealing with them as they refuse to see logic.

again, many of you state that price and games are the biggest issues. Why dont we just put that aside for a moment and think of the macs themselves instead of just thinking of the price. The macs arent just expensive for no reason, and also I dont see how the price makes the machine itself worse. Windows are great value for money and they do have games but macs are just more smoother. No wonder why most businesses use macs to allow for ease of use and less frustration. Its a wonder why none of you guys have commented about viruses yet...

again, many of you state that price and games are the biggest issues. Why dont we just put that aside for a moment and think of the macs themselves instead of just thinking of the price. The macs arent just expensive for no reason, and also I dont see how the price makes the machine itself worse. Windows are great value for money and they do have games but macs are just more smoother. No wonder why most businesses use macs to allow for ease of use and less frustration. Its a wonder why none of you guys have commented about viruses yet...

bm1212

lolwut?

Nowhere near correct. MOST business' use Windows for ITS ease of use and less frustration. Most likely a majority of programs used by any business can't even run on a Mac unless you use bootcamp, which as stated, would defeat the purpose of owning a Mac.

again, many of you state that price and games are the biggest issues. Why dont we just put that aside for a moment and think of the macs themselves instead of just thinking of the price. The macs arent just expensive for no reason, and also I dont see how the price makes the machine itself worse. Windows are great value for money and they do have games but macs are just more smoother. No wonder why most businesses use macs to allow for ease of use and less frustration. Its a wonder why none of you guys have commented about viruses yet...

bm1212

Actually I did. I also destroyed the "argument" that you have made over and over again...

Please, you sound like a broken record.

Most businesses still use Windows. Viruses aren't built for Macs because they are such a small portion of the market because they offer no features that a PC doesn't do just as well or better, other than audio engineering, to justify their high price.

But, I think I've decided to stop trying to be logical with you and start arguing in the same manor you do. So, ignore everything I've said thus far, and this is my real argument:

ya, bm1212 all you do is say the same thing over and over again. i don understand y i need a mac. mac is just harder to use and windows is simply easier. Trust me, just try a PC. macs just keep freezing over and over and i cant get my work don. dont u kno why business use so many pc and not mac? its because they are just easier to use, so much simplier. i surprised you havent told us why price of mac is so hi. price of mac so high and no one knows why. maybe its because its so much more complicated and harder to use.

See? Perhaps you can comprehend an argument that is toned down to your level.

again, many of you state that price and games are the biggest issues. Why dont we just put that aside for a moment and think of the macs themselves instead of just thinking of the price. The macs arent just expensive for no reason, and also I dont see how the price makes the machine itself worse. Windows are great value for money and they do have games but macs are just more smoother. No wonder why most businesses use macs to allow for ease of use and less frustration. Its a wonder why none of you guys have commented about viruses yet...

bm1212

High price and hardly any game support are valid reasons why many of us don't care for Macs, or see them as superior. You can't just say we should ignore our valid concerns to make your argument look better. That's not how it works. Come back when you have an argument to stand on it's own two feet.

Even I can troll harder than this

again, many of you state that price and games are the biggest issues. Why dont we just put that aside for a moment and think of the macs themselves instead of just thinking of the price. The macs arent just expensive for no reason, and also I dont see how the price makes the machine itself worse. Windows are great value for money and they do have games but macs are just more smoother. No wonder why most businesses use macs to allow for ease of use and less frustration. Its a wonder why none of you guys have commented about viruses yet...

bm1212

Why do we have to put aside Price and games. Thos era not only important to us but they are valid issues. Shall we say you should put aside ease of use from your argument ? The price makes it worse because you are paying more money for a less powerful system, how is thta not a bad thing ?

again, many of you state that price and games are the biggest issues. Why dont we just put that aside for a moment and think of the macs themselves instead of just thinking of the price. The macs arent just expensive for no reason, and also I dont see how the price makes the machine itself worse. Windows are great value for money and they do have games but macs are just more smoother. No wonder why most businesses use macs to allow for ease of use and less frustration. Its a wonder why none of you guys have commented about viruses yet...

bm1212

Youre not getting it. YOU ARE ON A GAMING FORUM!! Linux has a better gaming catalogue than Mac ffs.

Oh and viruses? Well that ones easy. Lets say I am a virus maker. Should I write a Windows virus that can hit 95% of the computing world, or should I write a virus for Mac and hope it hits, well, anything? Easy choice there.

Me, being an owner of a macbook pro, have always wondered why people just opt for the windows pcs. The mac operating systems are far more simpler to use and arent as frustrating to use as a windows os. The only real factor that seems to matter to people is the price of what they are buying and the prices of the macs can triple a windows laptop with the same specs. And also there arent many apps that can be compatible with the macs but that isnt an issue because there is also the option of putting a windows os on a mac. Overall, the macs are just much more high quality and just gives more satisfaction than any other computers. Trust me on this, you really would be better off with a mac.

bm1212

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again, many of you state that price and games are the biggest issues. Why dont we just put that aside for a moment and think of the macs themselves instead of just thinking of the price. The macs arent just expensive for no reason, and also I dont see how the price makes the machine itself worse. Windows are great value for money and they do have games but macs are just more smoother. No wonder why most businesses use macs to allow for ease of use and less frustration. Its a wonder why none of you guys have commented about viruses yet...

grenadexjumpr

lolwut?

Nowhere near correct. MOST business' use Windows for ITS ease of use and less frustration. Most likely a majority of programs used by any business can't even run on a Mac unless you use bootcamp, which as stated, would defeat the purpose of owning a Mac.