Why doesnt everyone like mac?

That is not true you can very easily get warnings saying that you are infected by a virus and you have to download software to get rid of it. Actually the software itself is a virus and this doesnt come from *those* websites. In reality viruses can come from even the most innocent looking thing.

bm1212

Lol I'm not forcing anyone to play the game, leave if you wish. Have fun on your windows pc...NOT! By the way when you have the money buy a real machine, and that machine is called a mac, not a windows computer. HAHAHAHAHA! :D

bm1212

I doubt you've converted anyone here. Buh bye.

to avoid over-priced system and compatibility issues...

Yeah sure the windows computers can come with better specs but the actual mac os doesnt allow for viruses and freeze ups.bm1212

Oh?

There are Mac viruses and freeze ups, just less people know about them. Apple gives the impression that OS X is so much better when it functions a lot like PC's do.

[QUOTE="bm1212"]

That is not true you can very easily get warnings saying that you are infected by a virus and you have to download software to get rid of it. Actually the software itself is a virus and this doesnt come from *those* websites. In reality viruses can come from even the most innocent looking thing.

Birdy09

And no you cannot get into one with ease, I am not following. Are all inbound ports supposed to be open? I mean you can run an apache web server on a Mac, and it will be fine. I am indifferent about Macs, but this is the stupidest thing I have read here.

Here is what I have gathered over years: Mac and Windows users have no idea what they are talking about. The most vocal Linux kernel based users have barely used it if at all, and have never setup any type of server(cluster or something), and have no idea what they are talking about either. (Also Ubuntu users are almost always noobs)

The only users I know who right away I know they are not noobs are, RHEL users(red hat enterprise, while it is Linux, is not a desktop distro), and Unix users(not macs), Solaris users. Then not even Unix, or Linux, there are FreeBsd users, who are very smart as well. I do like my FreeBsd. Very bare, no GUI, the way I like it.

Also if you are really really smart, then there are OpenBsd users, which I have never met any. Mainly because that is used more for firewalls(pf) and things that need an extreme amount of security.

There are Mac viruses and freeze ups, just less people know about them. Apple gives the impression that OS X is so much better when it functions a lot like PC's do.

Lord_Rothen

[QUOTE="bm1212"]

That is not true you can very easily get warnings saying that you are infected by a virus and you have to download software to get rid of it. Actually the software itself is a virus and this doesnt come from *those* websites. In reality viruses can come from even the most innocent looking thing.

Birdy09

...the only problem with that is....why would anyone want to hack into a Mac OSX ?...there is nothing worth finding !

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No C#, ASP.Net, VB.Net, no good games unless wow is your thing, and the mac hardware is expensive compared to windows..

Also the only reason there are more viruses for windows is because that is the majority OS so the wierdos that do such want to do the most damage.

[QUOTE="Lord_Rothen"]

There are Mac viruses and freeze ups, just less people know about them. Apple gives the impression that OS X is so much better when it functions a lot like PC's do.

JigglyWiggly_

You mean "that is nothing like what Windows-based systems use"...the way you worded it, that statement doesn't make much sense (reads as if you're comparing PPC to Windows.)

Anyway, the PowerPC architecture is also no longer in use by Apple as of what, 2006ish? They moved to Intel x86-64 meaning their systems are now using exactly the same components as mainstream PC retailers. There really isn't anything that sets a Mac apart from a Windows-based machine anymore outside the operating system and the system exterior.

The only thing that stops just anyone from installing OS X on a self-built machine is the fact that Apple only supports specific sets of hardware. Even if you do have the correct hardware configuration, the question remains: why would you want to handicap your machine by using OS X?

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Lord_Rothen"]

There are Mac viruses and freeze ups, just less people know about them. Apple gives the impression that OS X is so much better when it functions a lot like PC's do.

Velocitas8

You mean "that is nothing like what Windows-based systems use"...the way you worded it, that statement doesn't make much sense (reads as if you're comparing PPC to Windows.)

Anyway, the PowerPC architecture is also no longer in use by Apple as of what, 2006ish? They moved to Intel x86-64 meaning their systems are now using exactly the same components as mainstream PC retailers. There really isn't anything that sets a Mac apart from a Windows-based machine anymore outside the operating system and the system exterior.

The only thing that stops just anyone from installing OS X on a self-built machine is the fact that Apple only supports specific sets of hardware. Even if you do have the correct hardware configuration, the question remains: why would you want to handicap your machine by using OS X?

Macs are however an easy way to get into Unix, well, if you use the terminal regularly that is.

Honestly you people crack me up, u would actually deprive yourself from having a mac just because it doesn't play games. Havent any of you jokers heard of games consoles? £250 can buy you a ps3 with a game or 2 that is much more powerful than a pc. I find pc gaming a pain because of the errors and the game crashing that you have to put up with. Also, with the pcs you have to constantly upgrade the various hardware that comes with a pc. A ps3 only becomes obsolete in 10 years with no gaming lag and no need to upgrade the parts. Take the ps2 for example, they will continue to make games for it even until 2010.

Honestly you people crack me up, u would actually deprive yourself from having a mac just because it doesn't play games. bm1212

GAMEspot.

A GAMING forum.

So yes, we are most inclined to reject machines that can't, in fact, play games.

Havent any of you jokers heard of games consoles? bm1212

System Wars/PS3/X360 forums
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£250 can buy you a ps3 with a game or 2 that is much more powerful than a pc. bm1212

Nope, a £250 PC annihilates a PS3 and a X360 in sheer calculating power.

I find pc gaming a pain because of the errors and the game crashing that you have to put up with. bm1212

Crashes and errors mean the user doesn't have a clue of what he's doing.

Also, with the pcs you have to constantly upgrade the various hardware that comes with a pc. bm1212

Bull****.

A ps3 only becomes obsolete in 10 years with no gaming lag and no need to upgrade the parts. Take the ps2 for example, they will continue to make games for it even until 2010.

bm1212

Again, bull****.

Devs keep making games for PS2 because it's one of (if not THE) most successful consoles ever made. So what? How does help your argument in any way :? ?

Besides, you're talking about PS3 on a PC forum. System Wars, further down the forum list.

Honestly you people crack me up, u would actually deprive yourself from having a mac just because it doesn't play games. Havent any of you jokers heard of games consoles? £250 can buy you a ps3 with a game or 2 that is much more powerful than a pc. I find pc gaming a pain because of the errors and the game crashing that you have to put up with. Also, with the pcs you have to constantly upgrade the various hardware that comes with a pc. A ps3 only becomes obsolete in 10 years with no gaming lag and no need to upgrade the parts. Take the ps2 for example, they will continue to make games for it even until 2010.

bm1212

All this spells out is that you have no idea what you are doing. If you have crashes and errors and don't want to use a PC for gaming, then why would you spend more money for something that does less? This is the opposite of being a smart consumer. I mean, I want to buy a Mercedes so I can drive it to the corner and back every day too, or as I said earlier, just flush my money down the toilet.

You're a sad person :( I feel sorry for you, but it's not your fault, your parents and the society made you that way.

Next time be smart, don't troll, because the only fool here will be you.

Hah! I'm sad? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! You can keep on telling yourself that, cheepskate! Get yourself a mac, if I had a windows pc then I would really be sad! :D

bm1212

Hah! I'm sad? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! You can keep on telling yourself that, cheepskate! Get yourself a mac, if I had a windows pc then I would really be sad! :D

bm1212

Again, tell me why I should spend more on a computer that does less. I really want to know.

Well just because it doesnt run a lot of programs that the windows ones do, doesnt mean that the macs are completely obsolete. Did I mention that it is also possible to have a windows os running on a mac so you can get the best of both. Also what you get with the macs are smoother performance and less frustration. Dont deny such a thing because you are all wrong and just cant afford a mac. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :D

Well just because it doesnt run a lot of programs that the windows ones do, doesnt mean that the macs are completely obsolete. Did I mention that it is also possible to have a windows os running on a mac so you can get the best of both. Also what you get with the macs are smoother performance and less frustration. Dont deny such a thing because you are all wrong and just cant afford a mac. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :D

bm1212

Well just because it doesnt run a lot of programs that the windows ones do, doesnt mean that the macs are completely obsolete. Did I mention that it is also possible to have a windows os running on a mac so you can get the best of both. Also what you get with the macs are smoother performance and less frustration. Dont deny such a thing because you are all wrong and just cant afford a mac. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :D

bm1212

But it doesn't make any sense. If you are going to buy a Mac, then load windows on it to have fullcompatibility, why not get a PC and have compatibilty in the first place? Using OSX gives you no advantage. You are paying more and getting less, not to mention the extra step of having to either dual boot, or run a virtual program for a second OS. Eliminate the weakest link, OSX, and just use Windows. Your argument fails big time. Price is not the issue here, the issue is that you can't find a valid argument so you claim that we are all cheapskates, when in reality we are smarter for not wanting aproprietary, stagnant, and integrated computer that lack backwards compatibility, software support, and costs more for no other reason than marketing.

So...wait...you said that the Mac OS is perfect, way better than Windows and now you tell us that Macs also have Windows, so that means Mac is better? do you think before you post? because your last post just render all that you said, completely useless. If we go by your "thinking" then you completely trashed your Mac, because Windows will make it run worse, freeze, have hardware problems, get viruses, etc.

And drop the money act, if you think you're rich because you got a Mac (or your parents got you one since you're clearly a kid that thinks he's cool and unique because he has a Mac), you're not, you're just a sad guy that has nothing to do other than show off that he has a measly "laptop" that is mostly part of the "fashion accesories". Only an ignorant brat + all of the above would show off on a public forum just because he has a "laptop". Newsflash, you're not special, as I said before, you're sad.

But really, enjoy your Mac, totally install windows on it because hey it works better since it's MAC d'oh.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

this guy is the best troll ever, he has managed to enrage pretty much all of the people who hang out in the PC and Mac games section

I just said that putting windows on a mac is just a possibility and is a choice given by good old apple, I didnt say that everyone that owns a mac has to put another os on. I am happy without a windows os and even if I do want to use windows I can use my old computer, which I havent touched since I got the mac. The first time I actually wanted to get the mac, was in Nepal when I went visited my uncles office and to my surprise they were using macs. This wasnt a big company mind so I was surprised that they could afford the systems, I was given the privelege to use one and saw how great they were. I loved the high definition screen, I loved the super slim keyboard, the mighty mouse, the isight, and the layout of the programs and the speed. All those things may seem rather miniscule but those were the things that made me want to get one, aware of the price. In the beginning I was just going to get a windows 7 computer but I shelled out my cash to get the more expensive machine. I do not regret my purchase and will continue to use macs in the future.

You really came to the wrong place to even mention Macs. Most people here seem to enjoy building their own PC and playing high end games on them.

Personally, I love Macs. I love iLife, I love the integration of all the apps. I love them. And, while I agree that the laptops are overpriced for their specs (not design quality) and due for a refresh, the new 27" iMacs are an amazing deal. The screens alone are worth upwards of $1200 and have literally no equivalentin the Windows PC world.

I recommendMacs, and Apple products in general, to everyone I know because none of them play anything but casual games on their computers (which Mac has plenty of). And because I don't really even play games on PCs anymore either, and I personally feel that Macs are better at everything I use a PC for (photos, video, music) and it has perfect integration with my iPhone; I'm going all Mac.

the new 27" iMacs are an amazing deal. The screens alone are worth upwards of $1200 and have literally no equivalentin the Windows PC world.liquidsuns

Was that a joke?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

grenadexjumpr

Yeah, that pretty much sums up bm1212's comments. ;)

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"] the new 27" iMacs are an amazing deal. The screens alone are worth upwards of $1200 and have literally no equivalentin the Windows PC world.Velocitas8

Was that a joke?

I really hope so.

"If you can't use a PC buy a mac"

Doing grahics and digital design at uni so people are always trying to get me on them, but i refuse. I'll tell you why I hate macs. Its not the company or the price its the people that use them.

Macs are made with users in mind. The users being people normally with skills outside computing. The next group are the kids of that genertation or the people that would like to become that generation. Equally as retarded with a machine. With this in mind Apple makes a mac. The price is a reflection on you people. You don't know the value of it so they can charge whatever they like!

MacOS is easy for you because you are as thick as sh*t when it comes to using a machine. Your like an 80 year old women behind the wheel. How is not being able to view files in the trash can easy? Or why does your OS always bring programs to the front so using more than a few apps impossible. How come you people don't have a maximise button?

This isn't 'easy'. Infact its quite dumb. I on the other hand just like most of us PC gamers arn't as f*ing stupid, knows how to build and USE a pc, so why pay more for less?

dbpvivi

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"] the new 27" iMacs are an amazing deal. The screens alone are worth upwards of $1200 and have literally no equivalentin the Windows PC world.Velocitas8

Was that a joke?

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"] the new 27" iMacs are an amazing deal. The screens alone are worth upwards of $1200 and have literally no equivalentin the Windows PC world.liquidsuns

Was that a joke?

Take this for example and yes you can buy 3 with 1200$ and still have money to buy something to eat.

I'm curios what you'll say...I bet it'll be something like "yeah but it sucks, can't compare it to a Mac screen and it doesn't look as good as Mac".

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

Was that a joke?

DanielDust

Take this for example and yes you can buy 3 with 1200$ and still have money to buy something to eat.

I'm curios what you'll say...I bet it'll be something like "yeah but it sucks, can't compare it to a Mac screen and it doesn't look as good as Mac".

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"] Feel free to prove this to be untrue.liquidsuns

Take this for example and yes you can buy 3 with 1200$ and still have money to buy something to eat.

I'm curios what you'll say...I bet it'll be something like "yeah but it sucks, can't compare it to a Mac screen and it doesn't look as good as Mac".

But yeah, as a Mac fan, again you'll say OMG it's not sexy enough it sucks and it isn't even close to the iMac that I love.

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]

Take this for example and yes you can buy 3 with 1200$ and still have money to buy something to eat.

I'm curios what you'll say...I bet it'll be something like "yeah but it sucks, can't compare it to a Mac screen and it doesn't look as good as Mac".

DanielDust

That isn't LED backlit. Try again.liquidsuns

Besides I'm sure you don't know this but S-IPS panels are pretty much the best when it comes to quality.

The number of games available for Windows is much larger than the number of games that can run on a Mac. As someone who has used both I can say that I prefer Windows by far. While Macs tend to be more user friendly Windows allows for more customization.

The number of games available for Windows is much larger than the number of games that can run on a Mac. As someone who has used both I can say that I prefer Windows by far. While Macs tend to be more user friendly Windows allows for more customization.

Durhamster

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"] the new 27" iMacs are an amazing deal. The screens alone are worth upwards of $1200 and have literally no equivalentin the Windows PC world.liquidsuns

Was that a joke?

Trust me on this, you really would be better off with a mac.

bm1212

i'm a pc and windows 7 was my idea

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"] the new 27" iMacs are an amazing deal. The screens alone are worth upwards of $1200 and have literally no equivalentin the Windows PC world.liquidsuns

Was that a joke?

There are a number of high quality IPS panels at reasonable prices.

Also, I would think that the burden of proof would fall to the one making the outrageous claim.

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] Mac's BIOS's are intergrated, so they are quite different, especially the PPC architecture, that is nothing like Windows.JigglyWiggly_

You mean "that is nothing like what Windows-based systems use"...the way you worded it, that statement doesn't make much sense (reads as if you're comparing PPC to Windows.)

Anyway, the PowerPC architecture is also no longer in use by Apple as of what, 2006ish? They moved to Intel x86-64 meaning their systems are now using exactly the same components as mainstream PC retailers. There really isn't anything that sets a Mac apart from a Windows-based machine anymore outside the operating system and the system exterior.

The only thing that stops just anyone from installing OS X on a self-built machine is the fact that Apple only supports specific sets of hardware. Even if you do have the correct hardware configuration, the question remains: why would you want to handicap your machine by using OS X?

Macs are however an easy way to get into Unix, well, if you use the terminal regularly that is.