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Killzone 2 Is Already Starting To Flop
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You can't say GTA IV is a flop because you think it is bad. It sold tons of PS3s and many gamers loved it.
LAIR my friend, is a flop. Hyped so much for its graphics, and what came out was some terrible controls that mar the experience greatly.
Last month, All I read on here is people saying 'OMG BEST GAME EVER, IT WILL BE I PROMISE OMG' Right... So they haven't actually played the beta (lawl) And now more and more info has been released like no Co-Op? And other details.. And Im seeing people saying 'I wont buy this because of this and that' And people saying it will get around an 8/10..
This game will be good.... But hype will kill it like GTA IV.. Don't get caught and you will probably enjoy it.. But how is it flopping? I Don't think casual gamers who happen to be the most usual people to buy games in stores and what not.. Most of the sales come from Casual gamers.. And i've got a little feeling this wont attract casual gamers.. Dispute that all you want but seriously. Also, I heard the aiming is a little like RSV2 where you have to click a button to aim then unclick to not aim? Is that right? And can it be changed in the controller settings or whatever? IF not then thats a fail.. But Im sure they will let you change it hopefully...
So anyway, Hype is killing this game, It will leave thousands dissapointed because they will expect SO much and then they will realize its not the Perfect game that was made by Superhumans who can do anything.
Leave respectful opinions.. And yes I do want this game to be good, Im just... You know!
Co-op is overrated. A few years back no one cared about co-op and suddenly it's a must have in every game? Bioshock and COD4 are just two of the most successful FPS games this gen and they don't have co-op. About the aiming, just like in any other FPS, you have to press a button to aim closely and press it again to leave that kind of aiming. You can still aim without pressing any button.LOL OH..
This was a nice thread. Well done to Prodigy for creating such controversy between the Killzone 2 Hypers.
A few points I will make to make sure you understand me, As you all obviously don't with an exception of a few people,
- I Do Hope Killzone 2 is great, And In no way am I trying to make it out to look bad or am I trying to say it will be bad, Im just saying Hype Kills!
- I do not really care for Co-Op or Split Screen, But IMO I think it will make the game move to HC gamers only, Casuals will give it a miss (sales!!!!!!111)
- GTA IV is garbage (Thats not even a valid topic in a K2 thread, But GTA IV looks great, But is the most boring game I have ever played (On Next-Gen)
- Give me some credit, I took all of you flaming nazi's on with my quite messed up and flawed writing as I was half drunk Last night... WHERES MY CRED
- I'd like to pat myself on the back for having a thread with 200 posts.. Noting that most of them was me and flamers(such fun)
- I Will Not Lose, So if you continue to flame me, I'll continue to attack back.. You will NEVER get me to stop when I have an argument, So just stop yourself!
- Have a great day.
You can't say GTA IV is a flop because you think it is bad. It sold tons of PS3s and many gamers loved it.
LAIR my friend, is a flop. Hyped so much for its graphics, and what came out was some terrible controls that mar the experience greatly.
[/QUOTE I Know I was wrong, Thats a rare thing. It wasn't a flop, because obviously you all think a Flop is about sales, Which to some it is. A Flop to me, In the gaming industry, Is when a game gathers masses of hype around it., Then when the game is released it is nothing like the cancer curing machine it was supposed to be, That makes it a flop. Well actually it does not, That makes it a victim of hype, But what REALLY makes it a flop is, The fact that people who played it and bought it day one, Who was like OH MY GOD YES I GOT IT **** Soon realized the game was boring, And too serious for its own good. While that approach with a game can work with the Hardcore gamers, It will not work with the usual, COD4 addicts, And your average shooter gamers. Infact, It didn't work with most of the COD4 gamers, And Average Shooter Gamers. It just worked with the ones who didn't care for hype, And knew before hand it would be a nice looking game that will bore you senseless. Those who claim to like it, Probably do. But I don't see whats fun and amazing, And 10/10 material by with, Every misson (almost) being, Go Kill Him Now Niko! Or whatever. The trophies got me back into it but then again playing the story again (ohhhh my god) that killed it for me. Not a flop then, Just a big let down to most of its players, Don't believe me? Just google it. You will find threads with thousands of people saying its garbage. And millions like it? Well thats a little over the top I think. Ah[QUOTE="shalashaska88"]You can't say GTA IV is a flop because you think it is bad. It sold tons of PS3s and many gamers loved it.
LAIR my friend, is a flop. Hyped so much for its graphics, and what came out was some terrible controls that mar the experience greatly.
[/QUOTE I Know I was wrong, Thats a rare thing. It wasn't a flop, because obviously you all think a Flop is about sales, Which to some it is. A Flop to me, In the gaming industry, Is when a game gathers masses of hype around it., Then when the game is released it is nothing like the cancer curing machine it was supposed to be, That makes it a flop. Well actually it does not, That makes it a victim of hype, But what REALLY makes it a flop is, The fact that people who played it and bought it day one, Who was like OH MY GOD YES I GOT IT **** Soon realized the game was boring, And too serious for its own good. While that approach with a game can work with the Hardcore gamers, It will not work with the usual, COD4 addicts, And your average shooter gamers. Infact, It didn't work with most of the COD4 gamers, And Average Shooter Gamers. It just worked with the ones who didn't care for hype, And knew before hand it would be a nice looking game that will bore you senseless. Those who claim to like it, Probably do. But I don't see whats fun and amazing, And 10/10 material by with, Every misson (almost) being, Go Kill Him Now Niko! Or whatever. The trophies got me back into it but then again playing the story again (ohhhh my god) that killed it for me. Not a flop then, Just a big let down to most of its players, Don't believe me? Just google it. You will find threads with thousands of people saying its garbage. And millions like it? Well thats a little over the top I think. AhTheProdigyIV
And millions that loved it. I have to admit it may not be as fun as San Andreas, but it did sell well, and that's enough to label it as a commercial success. It's ok to have opinions about a game, and saying that it is a flop. But generalizing everyone else saying that it is a flop is unfair, because you only look at one side of things. Try to look at the other side, and you'll find that the number of gamers praising GTAIV far outweighs the ones who hated it.
[QUOTE="TheProdigyIV"][QUOTE="shalashaska88"]You can't say GTA IV is a flop because you think it is bad. It sold tons of PS3s and many gamers loved it.
LAIR my friend, is a flop. Hyped so much for its graphics, and what came out was some terrible controls that mar the experience greatly.
[/QUOTE I Know I was wrong, Thats a rare thing. It wasn't a flop, because obviously you all think a Flop is about sales, Which to some it is. A Flop to me, In the gaming industry, Is when a game gathers masses of hype around it., Then when the game is released it is nothing like the cancer curing machine it was supposed to be, That makes it a flop. Well actually it does not, That makes it a victim of hype, But what REALLY makes it a flop is, The fact that people who played it and bought it day one, Who was like OH MY GOD YES I GOT IT **** Soon realized the game was boring, And too serious for its own good. While that approach with a game can work with the Hardcore gamers, It will not work with the usual, COD4 addicts, And your average shooter gamers. Infact, It didn't work with most of the COD4 gamers, And Average Shooter Gamers. It just worked with the ones who didn't care for hype, And knew before hand it would be a nice looking game that will bore you senseless. Those who claim to like it, Probably do. But I don't see whats fun and amazing, And 10/10 material by with, Every misson (almost) being, Go Kill Him Now Niko! Or whatever. The trophies got me back into it but then again playing the story again (ohhhh my god) that killed it for me. Not a flop then, Just a big let down to most of its players, Don't believe me? Just google it. You will find threads with thousands of people saying its garbage. And millions like it? Well thats a little over the top I think. Ahshalashaska88
And millions that loved it. I have to admit it may not be as fun as San Andreas, but it did sell well, and that's enough to label it as a commercial success. It's ok to have opinions about a game, and saying that it is a flop. But generalizing everyone else saying that it is a flop is unfair, because you only look at one side of things. Try to look at the other side, and you'll find that the number of gamers praising GTAIV far outweighs the ones who hated it.
Lol im actually gonna do a poll, 'Did you like GTA IV?' I'll get maybe an even result on here. Also, you say 'Liked it' I Liked Haze, A little bit...... Feel me?[QUOTE="shalashaska88"][QUOTE="TheProdigyIV"][QUOTE="shalashaska88"]You can't say GTA IV is a flop because you think it is bad. It sold tons of PS3s and many gamers loved it.
LAIR my friend, is a flop. Hyped so much for its graphics, and what came out was some terrible controls that mar the experience greatly.
[/QUOTE I Know I was wrong, Thats a rare thing. It wasn't a flop, because obviously you all think a Flop is about sales, Which to some it is. A Flop to me, In the gaming industry, Is when a game gathers masses of hype around it., Then when the game is released it is nothing like the cancer curing machine it was supposed to be, That makes it a flop. Well actually it does not, That makes it a victim of hype, But what REALLY makes it a flop is, The fact that people who played it and bought it day one, Who was like OH MY GOD YES I GOT IT **** Soon realized the game was boring, And too serious for its own good. While that approach with a game can work with the Hardcore gamers, It will not work with the usual, COD4 addicts, And your average shooter gamers. Infact, It didn't work with most of the COD4 gamers, And Average Shooter Gamers. It just worked with the ones who didn't care for hype, And knew before hand it would be a nice looking game that will bore you senseless. Those who claim to like it, Probably do. But I don't see whats fun and amazing, And 10/10 material by with, Every misson (almost) being, Go Kill Him Now Niko! Or whatever. The trophies got me back into it but then again playing the story again (ohhhh my god) that killed it for me. Not a flop then, Just a big let down to most of its players, Don't believe me? Just google it. You will find threads with thousands of people saying its garbage. And millions like it? Well thats a little over the top I think. AhTheProdigyIV
And millions that loved it. I have to admit it may not be as fun as San Andreas, but it did sell well, and that's enough to label it as a commercial success. It's ok to have opinions about a game, and saying that it is a flop. But generalizing everyone else saying that it is a flop is unfair, because you only look at one side of things. Try to look at the other side, and you'll find that the number of gamers praising GTAIV far outweighs the ones who hated it.
Lol im actually gonna do a poll, 'Did you like GTA IV?' I'll get maybe an even result on here. Also, you say 'Liked it' I Liked Haze, A little bit...... Feel me?I feel you bro.:)
Last month, All I read on here is people saying 'OMG BEST GAME EVER, IT WILL BE I PROMISE OMG' Right... So they haven't actually played the beta (lawl) And now more and more info has been released like no Co-Op? And other details..TheProdigyIV
I love the "and other details" bit. It definitely looks like you're just trying to scrounge up some controversy, and that's fine. I've been as against these out of control hype trains as anyone, but just as it's premature to label KZ2 GOTY 2009, it's just as premature to say it's already flopping. So far, the lack of co-op seems to be the only disappointing information that's come out in the last few weeks.
If KZ2 ends up being a victim of its own hype, meaning an 8.5 or less = abject failure, then so be it. I, personally, do not expect a groundbreaking story or revolutionary gameplay elements. I'm looking for a graphical showcase providing a solid shooter experience with addictive MP. If we get that, I'll call it a win.
I believe no co-op will hardly influence Killzone 2 sales. It's a grand scale FPS shooter with up-to-date multiplayer options that most gamers will enjoy for months.
It would be nice to have all the possible features available in the game but we have seen in the past that good games sell and bad ones do not even if they have co-op or offline multiplayer.
Lets not judge the game before its released, I believe it will make great sale and any fan of shooting games will give it a try.
[QUOTE="TheProdigyIV"]Last month, All I read on here is people saying 'OMG BEST GAME EVER, IT WILL BE I PROMISE OMG' Right... So they haven't actually played the beta (lawl) And now more and more info has been released like no Co-Op? And other details..2headedhawaiian
I love the "and other details" bit. It definitely looks like you're just trying to scrounge up some controversy, and that's fine. I've been as against these out of control hype trains as anyone, but just as it's premature to label KZ2 GOTY 2009, it's just as premature to say it's already flopping. So far, the lack of co-op seems to be the only disappointing information that's come out in the last few weeks.
If KZ2 ends up being a victim of its own hype, meaning an 8.5 or less = abject failure, then so be it. I, personally, do not expect a groundbreaking story or revolutionary gameplay elements. I'm looking for a graphical showcase providing a solid shooter experience with addictive MP. If we get that, I'll call it a win.
Once again, Im trying to spark controversy because I said something negative towards K2? get your head out of your ass man forreal, I've stated hundreds of times, I want K2 to be good, But hype like this is stupid. It will kill the game, REGARDLESS if it is good or not, Anti-Climaxes and allBecause hype always equals flop, and MGS4 was extremely hyped and it flopped so hard, right? I'm still excited that I have MGS4 even after finishing the game and spending weeks playing MGO. I'm looking forward to Killzone 2 as my replacement for COD4--maybe the multiplayer will not be a freaking grenade throwing fest.XepheonWhere did I say Hype always means a flop? Quote that please? Hurry Up Please? Im waiting??
Last month, All I read on here is people saying 'OMG BEST GAME EVER, IT WILL BE I PROMISE OMG' Right... So they haven't actually played the beta (lawl) And now more and more info has been released like no Co-Op? And other details.. And Im seeing people saying 'I wont buy this because of this and that' And people saying it will get around an 8/10..
This game will be good.... But hype will kill it like GTA IV.. Don't get caught and you will probably enjoy it.. But how is it flopping? I Don't think casual gamers who happen to be the most usual people to buy games in stores and what not.. Most of the sales come from Casual gamers.. And i've got a little feeling this wont attract casual gamers.. Dispute that all you want but seriously. Also, I heard the aiming is a little like RSV2 where you have to click a button to aim then unclick to not aim? Is that right? And can it be changed in the controller settings or whatever? IF not then thats a fail.. But Im sure they will let you change it hopefully...
So anyway, Hype is killing this game, It will leave thousands dissapointed because they will expect SO much and then they will realize its not the Perfect game that was made by Superhumans who can do anything.
Leave respectful opinions.. And yes I do want this game to be good, Im just... You know!
TheProdigyIV
Yeah, I must admit that while I LOVED the Beta, that little detail was very annoying. It just doesn't feel natural. But anyway, that's not keeping me from buying the game. I just really hope we can change that in the final build.
And I don't get why you guys are all hating on TheProdigyIV. He just expressed his opinion, why do you get all worked up? He has his reasons to think the way he does and they're just as valid as anyone's.
I know it will be good, I love the first Killzone, and with bot multiplayer, it was awesome.
no co-op? guess Im just going to play it as little as I played COD4, which I've only clocked in 14 days online, closing in on 5000 online matches, 36 000 kills and is still playing even though I bought it at launch. Oh well...trasherhead
14 days as in the total online playing time? Wow. I've had my COD4 for over a year and just now am almost at two days... count me in for 36000 kills on KZ2 though, provided 75% of the kills don't come from frag-nade deaths like they do in COD4... what a concept that would be. I'm at around 2600 for COD4.
LOL OH..
This was a nice thread. Well done to Prodigy for creating such controversy between the Killzone 2 Hypers.
A few points I will make to make sure you understand me, As you all obviously don't with an exception of a few people,
- I Do Hope Killzone 2 is great, And In no way am I trying to make it out to look bad or am I trying to say it will be bad, Im just saying Hype Kills!
- I do not really care for Co-Op or Split Screen, But IMO I think it will make the game move to HC gamers only, Casuals will give it a miss (sales!!!!!!111)
- GTA IV is garbage (Thats not even a valid topic in a K2 thread, But GTA IV looks great, But is the most boring game I have ever played (On Next-Gen)
- Give me some credit, I took all of you flaming nazi's on with my quite messed up and flawed writing as I was half drunk Last night... WHERES MY CRED
- I'd like to pat myself on the back for having a thread with 200 posts.. Noting that most of them was me and flamers(such fun)
- I Will Not Lose, So if you continue to flame me, I'll continue to attack back.. You will NEVER get me to stop when I have an argument, So just stop yourself!
- Have a great day.
TheProdigyIV
You keep arguing but you keep losing your argument.
[QUOTE="shalashaska88"]I Know I was wrong, Thats a rare thing. It wasn't a flop, because obviously you all think a Flop is about sales, Which to some it is. A Flop to me, In the gaming industry, Is when a game gathers masses of hype around it., Then when the game is released it is nothing like the cancer curing machine it was supposed to be, That makes it a flop. Well actually it does not, That makes it a victim of hype, But what REALLY makes it a flop is, The fact that people who played it and bought it day one, Who was like OH MY GOD YES I GOT IT **** Soon realized the game was boring, And too serious for its own good. While that approach with a game can work with the Hardcore gamers, It will not work with the usual, COD4 addicts, And your average shooter gamers. Infact, It didn't work with most of the COD4 gamers, And Average Shooter Gamers. It just worked with the ones who didn't care for hype, And knew before hand it would be a nice looking game that will bore you senseless. Those who claim to like it, Probably do. But I don't see whats fun and amazing, And 10/10 material by with, Every misson (almost) being, Go Kill Him Now Niko! Or whatever. The trophies got me back into it but then again playing the story again (ohhhh my god) that killed it for me. Not a flop then, Just a big let down to most of its players, Don't believe me Just google it. You will find threads with thousands of people saying its garbage. And millions like it? Well thats a little over the top I think. AhYou can't say GTA IV is a flop because you think it is bad. It sold tons of PS3s and many gamers loved it.
LAIR my friend, is a flop. Hyped so much for its graphics, and what came out was some terrible controls that mar the experience greatly.
TheProdigyIV
Well we should go by your definition of flop. lol. Instead of the worlds definition of flop. That is just called a lack of education.
I Know I was wrong, Thats a rare thing. It wasn't a flop, because obviously you all think a Flop is about sales, Which to some it is. A Flop to me, In the gaming industry, Is when a game gathers masses of hype around it., Then when the game is released it is nothing like the cancer curing machine it was supposed to be, That makes it a flop. Well actually it does not, That makes it a victim of hype, But what REALLY makes it a flop is, The fact that people who played it and bought it day one, Who was like OH MY GOD YES I GOT IT **** Soon realized the game was boring, And too serious for its own good. While that approach with a game can work with the Hardcore gamers, It will not work with the usual, COD4 addicts, And your average shooter gamers. Infact, It didn't work with most of the COD4 gamers, And Average Shooter Gamers. It just worked with the ones who didn't care for hype, And knew before hand it would be a nice looking game that will bore you senseless. Those who claim to like it, Probably do. But I don't see whats fun and amazing, And 10/10 material by with, Every misson (almost) being, Go Kill Him Now Niko! Or whatever. The trophies got me back into it but then again playing the story again (ohhhh my god) that killed it for me. Not a flop then, Just a big let down to most of its players, Don't believe me Just google it. You will find threads with thousands of people saying its garbage. And millions like it? Well thats a little over the top I think. Ah[QUOTE="TheProdigyIV"][QUOTE="shalashaska88"]
You can't say GTA IV is a flop because you think it is bad. It sold tons of PS3s and many gamers loved it.
LAIR my friend, is a flop. Hyped so much for its graphics, and what came out was some terrible controls that mar the experience greatly.
Diddies
Well we should go by your definition of flop. lol. Instead of the worlds definition of flop. That is just called a lack of education.
:lol: Again .. what is the definition of a flop?
Technically, a flop is a failure, or failed .. does it say in sales? Nope ..
The word is used so loosely among gamers, that him using the word flop isn't wrong .. it flopped to him ..
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