I respectfully disagree with Mason Downey's Gina Carano Article and it's lack of a comment section.

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#101 LJS9502_basic
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@wilddog73 said:

@LJS9502_basic: The controversy isn't just about Gina getting fired though. Most of the attention was on whether she was being treated like a jew in nazi germany with the hate she received on twitter.

And I agree that it's similar, the Nazis demonized the jews and the population started to align with that, which was why they were able to treat them like vermin.

Someone not liking something you say is NOT the same as what happened to Jewish people during the Holocaust. Not even remotely close.

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#102 masscrack
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@dzimm: I also theorized this was what happened or that they posted it to their twitter groupies.

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#103  Edited By Wilddog73
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@LJS9502_basic: Hitler didn't birth the Holocaust on his own y'know, he just helped channel what was already there. There was already a loud minority of people spouting their hatred for the jews, he just helped it along by silencing the opposing voices.

Much like the twitter mob that went after Gina Carano and the censorship that occurred here.

The Nazis wanted the german people to be scared that they can't do anything about it by making it sound like no one was on their side.

Divide and Conquer.

Which I guess in jest, could be used to say that Gamespot is literally hitler. x3

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#104 Solaryellow
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@Miyomatic said:

Clearly Gamespot knows they're objectively wrong on the matter, but would rather force "their truth" on everyone with no pushback.

Funny how the article fails to mention Pedro Pascal's holocaust post.

The impression I get is the author/article isn't willing/able to pass the scrutiny test hence the one sided approach.

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#105 LJS9502_basic
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@LJS9502_basic: Hitler didn't do it all on his own, you know. Having a loud, focused minority of people spout their hatred for a belief system and anyone even remotely defensive of or even related to it by blood paired with government censorship of opposing voices allowed what happened to the jews in the Holocaust.

Much like the twitter mob that went after Gina Carano and the censorship that occurred here.

You're comparing genocide to a business saying we don't want you to represent us? Seriously dude.

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#106 sheep99
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Didn’t read the Mason Downey's Gina Carano Article but any way she deserved to get fired there is no but and ifs she was working for Disney and that’s that.

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@LJS9502_basic: I find it hilarious that Disney does not want to be represented by her "cuz ethics/morals" yet they filmed Mulan where again exactly?

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@Solaryellow: Winner winner chicken dinner!

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#109 VFighter
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@sheep99: Deserved to get fired for what exactly? Other disney stars have posted things of similar nature, some have posted flat out racist comments over and over and over again and yet they're still employed. The only reason she was fired is that she won't bend a knee and pretend to be some woke leftist tool.

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#110  Edited By Wilddog73
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@LJS9502_basic: They didn't have forums like this back then, but you could probably think of newspapers as an example of businesses the nazis probably pressured into doing the same thing.

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#111 LJS9502_basic
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@wilddog73 said:

@LJS9502_basic: They didn't have forums like this back then, but you could probably think of newspapers as an example of businesses the nazis probably pressured into doing the same thing.

Stop with that analogy. Just stop. She was fired because her employer believes she was more of a detriment than asset.

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#112 HoolaHoopMan
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@silentchief said:

What your talk about isn't free market though. That's the point.

Boycotts and consumer backlash aren't free market mechanics? This keeps getting better and better.

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#113  Edited By Wilddog73
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@LJS9502_basic: I'm just talking about the twitter mob and the censorship. Gamespot is basically a digital newspaper and the twitter mob seems about as bloodthirsty as their ww2 equivalent.

If they could, they'd totally turn in Gina Carano as a jew to the nazis in ww2.

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#114 mattbbpl
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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@silentchief said:

What your talk about isn't free market though. That's the point.

Boycotts and consumer backlash aren't free market mechanics? This keeps getting better and better.

It wasn't long ago that boycotts and consumer backlash were the predominant examples of open markets regulating themselves cited by Libertarians as reasons that government regulation wasn't needed. It's a little weird now to see them cited as non-market forces at all.

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@wilddog73 said:

@LJS9502_basic: I'm just talking about the twitter mob and the censorship. Gamespot is basically a digital newspaper and the twitter mob seems about as bloodthirsty as their ww2 equivalent.

If they could, they'd totally turn in Gina Carano as a jew to the nazis in ww2.

Gina's wealthy, I think she's doing just fine. A bunch of rich folk complaining because their insane conspiracies aren't coming true is a far shot from mass genocide. Believing that they're comparable is playing into this delusional victim complex that she and many on the right suffer from.

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@mattbbpl said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@silentchief said:

What your talk about isn't free market though. That's the point.

Boycotts and consumer backlash aren't free market mechanics? This keeps getting better and better.

It wasn't long ago that boycotts and consumer backlash were the predominant examples of open markets regulating themselves cited by Libertarians as reasons that government regulation wasn't needed. It's a little weird now to see them cited as non-market forces at all.

Which is exactly why the seeing these same people decry cancel culture is all the more hilarious.

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#117  Edited By deactivated-628e6669daebe
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@wilddog73: If you want to play ignorant that's up to you. He, over the years, consistently delivers content in a style that invariably leads to people being harassed. He does say for his followers not to do it, consistently with no results, but he still insists on doing it. I don't need to quote nothing, go listen to the post review discussion yourself, then listen to his words and take your own conclusions. He literally takes her quotes out of context. If you do think he does this kind of thing by accident you're just playing fool. Funnily when Rahul Kholi made fun of him he immediately played the victim saying a famous actor was attacking him.

But it is funny seeing you so worried about Nazis and cancel culture and in the same post defend someone that thrives on cancel culture and harassment.

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#118 mattbbpl
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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@mattbbpl said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@silentchief said:

What your talk about isn't free market though. That's the point.

Boycotts and consumer backlash aren't free market mechanics? This keeps getting better and better.

It wasn't long ago that boycotts and consumer backlash were the predominant examples of open markets regulating themselves cited by Libertarians as reasons that government regulation wasn't needed. It's a little weird now to see them cited as non-market forces at all.

Which is exactly why the seeing these same people decry cancel culture is all the more hilarious.

Yeah. The difference is that they now see it as a cudgel to be used against them rather than by them. No different than what we saw with the machinations in the Senate this administration. There are lessons to be learned here for the Democrats, and they're not subtle.

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#119  Edited By Wilddog73
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@ghost_of_phobos: If you can't even be bothered to quote it, it just sounds like an sjw rant. Do your homework.

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#120 sakaiXx
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I dont follow the news on this nor have read the article but I do agree, how can you have an opinion piece but disable other opinion on the matter.

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#121 jsprunk
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@LJS9502_basic: No, you jumped into a conversation being had by two other people with no idea what they were talking about, and then offered up some stupid canned speech about your communist beliefs that no one cared about.

You win the argument...with yourself.

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#122 sheep99
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@vfighter: lol I would like to know who those other people are that posted worser than her. Republicans are the biggest crybabies and cancel culture people on earth for crying out loud they tried to cancel an Presidential Election and compare them self to Jews in Nazi Germany. Like they are going thru the same struggle.

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#123 Silentchief
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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@silentchief said:

What your talk about isn't free market though. That's the point.

Boycotts and consumer backlash aren't free market mechanics? This keeps getting better and better.

When did I say anything about boycotts? The consumers didn't determine her fate a progressive corporation did because she didn't tow the line. Canceling Disney plus is free market firing an employee because she offended you isn't. See the difference?

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#124  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@LJS9502_basic: No, you jumped into a conversation being had by two other people with no idea what they were talking about, and then offered up some stupid canned speech about your communist beliefs that no one cared about.

You win the argument...with yourself.

Go away with the trolling.

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@vfighter: lol I would like to know who those other people are that posted worser than her. Republicans are the biggest crybabies and cancel culture people on earth for crying out loud they tried to cancel an Presidential Election and compare them self to Jews in Nazi Germany. Like they are going thru the same struggle.

She never said they were going through the same struggle. The left is so busy being a victim they are incapable of any reason. And talking about canceling a President election? Your side bitch and moaned non stop for 4 years.

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#126 Silentchief
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@comp_atkins said:
@silentchief said:
@comp_atkins said:
@silentchief said:
@comp_atkins said:

I can't believe people in 2021 still haven't realized to just stop fucking brining up jews and nazis on social media.

FFS how many people need to get burned before these idiots realize it's not a good idea?!

The left calls people Nazi's all the time with little repercussions.

don't know what to tell ya, chief.

go start a cancel campaign?

What would I cancel? I have no desire to get a bunch of purple haired losers fired from Starbucks.

ok, so you're NOT frustrated that there are no repercussions.

I think they need to stay consistent for both sides. The problem is right now it's pretty one sided.

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#127 jsprunk
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@LJS9502_basic: No again. It is you who continue to troll me. I’m not the one walking into other people’s conversations pretending to know something with only the intention of trying to make other people feel stupid. That would be you. That would be the definition of a troll.

Looks like you won that one too bud.

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#128  Edited By Silentchief
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@stevelabny: Bye Karen. Disney made a decision that would cost them the least money possible. They are already counting on people like you leaving. It’s the same calculation the NFL made in apologizing to kaepernick. It’s lose lose. Lose little (you), or lose big (Millenials).

You don’t matter. Companies know catering to you and the anti-SJW edgelord crowd is not feasible because you get offended by NOT being able to shit on and troll people.

Pandering to SJW's has gotten just about everyone who has done it wrecked. The NFL had record low superbowl numbers on what should have been one of the highest rated superbowls in history . The NBA had a record low season despite its biggest star winning the finals with one of the most popular teams. Most people aren't into rabbid virtu signaling as just about every piece of evidence shows. Most people don't want to be bombarded with progressive bullshit in their entertainment and a loud vocal minority demands you shove it in everyone's face at every waking moment.

It's not like we want to shit on people we just want you to stfu and stop bitching. I don't need a privileged athlete preaching to me about white privilege when he makes more money in a year then the average person will make In their lifetime. Meanwhile Disney reported their second quarterly loss in the company's history so perhaps they should start pandering to someone else.

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#130  Edited By Wilddog73
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@jsprunk: I agree, since @horgen loves to keep insults and unsubstantial comments off gamespot, surely he'd be willing to ask @LJS9502_basic for us not to reply if he's just going to be all dismissive or call us trolls.

Isn't that breaking rule 2 and 6?

Edit: Oh look, he just applied the word stupid to my man Sprunk.

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#131 LJS9502_basic
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@wilddog73 said:

@jsprunk: I agree, since @horgen loves to keep insults and unsubstantial comments off gamespot, surely he'd be willing to ask @LJS9502_basic for us not to reply if he's just going to be all dismissive or call us trolls.

Isn't that breaking rule 2 and 6? Oh look, he just called my man sprunk stupid. Mods, pls halp

I didn't call him stupid, I rephrased what HE said. And since he is trolling me through this thread then maybe the mods should take a look at that.

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#132  Edited By Wilddog73
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@LJS9502_basic: I know, I edited for accuracy. And you started it man, not to mention breaking rule 6 religiously. You think taking the time to apply the word stupid to someone and bash them for interpreting a convo wrong is substantivecontent or something?

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#133 LJS9502_basic
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@LJS9502_basic: I know, I edited for accuracy. And you started it man, not to mention breaking rule 6.

No I replied to someone else and he's been following me around in this thread. I was not talking to him.

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#134  Edited By Wilddog73
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... Okay, maybe you didn't start it. I didn't keep track, but with your attitude I kinda felt like you did. Sorry to misrepresent.

If you'd be willing to drop the dismissive attitude, I'm sure we could all let this negativity fall to the wayside and just talk calmly about the good stuff.

Like whether the nazis pressuring the newspapers equates to modern-day censorship or if Gamespot HQ literally has hitler hidden in the freezer.

Sound alright?

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#135 LJS9502_basic
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@wilddog73 said:

... Okay, maybe you didn't start it. I didn't keep track, but with your attitude I kinda felt like you did. Sorry to misrepresent.

If you'd be willing to drop the dismissive attitude, I'm sure we could all let this negativity fall to the wayside and just talk calmly about the good stuff.

Like whether the nazis pressuring the newspapers equates to modern-day censorship or if Gamespot HQ literally has hitler hidden in the freezer.

Sound alright?

No the analogy to what happened with the Nazi's is not equal to an employer deciding an employee was a detriment.

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@silentchief: lol you should do some research on Trump and all the law suits he had, not paying people for work they did, fake collage lists goes on. He was born rich and never went thru any struggle in his life besides ruining his business. Do some research on how many times he lied while he was in the office. He even called Georgia officials to find 11k votes, that’s a crime and voter fraud. Yes the republicans crybabies tried to cancel the election Stop the Steal, calming voter fraud in States Trump lost, and the Republicans crybabies are playing the victim bunch of uneducated, conspiracy theories, racist idiots. I have no side, I put country first before the party. I have voted for republicans and democrats if i don’t agree with some of the policies and their past i don’t vote for him or her i am not a sheep

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@sheep99 said:

@silentchief: lol you should do some research on Trump and all the law suits he had, not paying people for work they did, fake collage lists goes on. He was born rich and never went thru any struggle in his life besides ruining his business. Do some research on how many times he lied while he was in the office. He even called Georgia officials to find 11k votes, that’s a crime and voter fraud. Yes the republicans crybabies tried to cancel the election Stop the Steal, calming voter fraud in States Trump lost, and the Republicans crybabies are playing the victim bunch of uneducated, conspiracy theories, racist idiots. I have no side, I put country first before the party. I have voted for republicans and democrats if i don’t agree with some of the policies and their past i don’t vote for him or her i am not a sheep

But your username lol.

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#138  Edited By Wilddog73
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@LJS9502_basic: Mm, but if you aren't willing to talk it out with us, just being all rude, you're just breaking rule 6.

@horgen this boi be littering on yo forum all unrepentant and stuff!

You gonna let him get away with that?

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#139 LJS9502_basic
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@wilddog73 said:

@LJS9502_basic: Mm, but if you aren't willing to talk it out with us, just being all rude, you're just breaking rule 6.

@horgen this boi be littering on yo forum all unrepentant and stuff!

You gonna let him get away with that?

What is wrong with you? I answered your question. If you can't handle discussions that vary from your preconceived opinion than forums aren't the place for you. And you wonder why I think people are trolling.

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#140  Edited By Wilddog73
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@LJS9502_basic: Just saying something doesn't equate doesn't add substance. It's practically flame-bait and barely constitutes an opinion. It sounds suuuuper rude and dismissive.

If you actually have something to add, tell me why. When gamespot censored voices opposed to Gina Carrano's firing and/or treatment on twitter, why doesn't it equate to the nazis pressuring newspapers not to run stories supporting the jews?

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@sheep99: Did you forget about the 4 years of bullshit about Russia collusion that the left used non stop which all ended up being an absolute lie? We went from Russians hacking the voting machines to Trump being a Russian agent?

And let's not forget the Scotus trial when they accused a judge of rape and used a witness that couldn't tell you when , where or how it happened.

Your side thrived on non stop conspiracy theories and bullshit for 4 years and now you're all about facts?

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#142 appariti0n
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@horgen said:
@appariti0n said:

@horgen: Puzzling. Why post the article at all then? This is supposed to be a gaming site I thought.

This article isn't even neutral either. It very clearly takes a side, and sticks with it. Closing the comments section is sheer cowardice.

This is like holding a "change my mind" sign at a rally, then refusing to debate with anyone.

You're upset you can't go for personal attacks against the person who posts an article?

Didn't notice this post until now.

To which I respond...

huh?

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#143  Edited By rmpumper
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Yeah, let's just ignore that the MAGA cultists are "canceling" right wingers who don't suck Trump's dick (and that is a real free speech issue as the MAGA politicians are silencing anti-Trump GOP members) and trying to cancel all manner of leftists and left organizations/companies for being supporting BLM or being anti-Trump.

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#144 comp_atkins
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@silentchief said:
@Baconstrip78 said:

@stevelabny: Bye Karen. Disney made a decision that would cost them the least money possible. They are already counting on people like you leaving. It’s the same calculation the NFL made in apologizing to kaepernick. It’s lose lose. Lose little (you), or lose big (Millenials).

You don’t matter. Companies know catering to you and the anti-SJW edgelord crowd is not feasible because you get offended by NOT being able to shit on and troll people.

Pandering to SJW's has gotten just about everyone who has done it wrecked. The NFL had record low superbowl numbers on what should have been one of the highest rated superbowls in history . The NBA had a record low season despite its biggest star winning the finals with one of the most popular teams. Most people aren't into rabbid virtu signaling as just about every piece of evidence shows. Most people don't want to be bombarded with progressive bullshit in their entertainment and a loud vocal minority demands you shove it in everyone's face at every waking moment.

It's not like we want to shit on people we just want you to stfu and stop bitching. I don't need a privileged athlete preaching to me about white privilege when he makes more money in a year then the average person will make In their lifetime. Meanwhile Disney reported their second quarterly loss in the company's history so perhaps they should start pandering to someone else.

so you're equating disney reported losses not to the MASSIVE loss of revenue due to covid but rather some snowflakes melting down over disney employees voicing their opinions and refusing to purchase disney products?

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#145  Edited By rmpumper
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@silentchief said:

Did you actually read her comment? The only thing she was comparing was how the Nazi's got Jews to turn on each other. She was comparing that to how the MSM is turning on conservatives and causing division in our country.

Oh, let me guess: mainstream right wingers calling for heads on pikes is uniting the country, but centrist media calling them cunts for it is dividing the country. ok

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#146  Edited By rmpumper
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@appariti0n: yup exactly, gamespot should have never posted it unless they were open for discussion. This is a video game website btw and last time I checked Gina wasn't in a video game. Gamespot IS the echo chamber.

Just like this, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_HzLiYWCeE

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#147  Edited By Wilddog73
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@rmpumper:Did left wingers ask us for help with said censorship? Are we expected to fight their battles along with our own?

I trust Fox News and CNN about as far as I can throw them personally. How many boomers can you throw?

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@wilddog73: I told you where to look, not going to go through all that again.

You using a term like "sjw" clearly reveals the kind of person you are. Most probably a fan of his work. But you should be careful, using negative political labels to identify people you don't agree with sounds just like Nazi Germany. How quickly the mask falls.

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Alright, let's pick it up again tomorrow fellas. From the top.