@sealionact said:
@eoten: lol, are you calling it a coup?
You’re never going to be taken seriously unless you stop talking nonsense.
People protested against Yanokovych’s decision to suspend preparations to sign a free trade agreement with the EU. That was in Nov. 2013. Those protests continued and grew when Police attempted to clear the square in Feb 2014.
The government agreed to new elections, and that was signed on feb 21st 2014, but Yanokovych fled the country on the same day. Parliament voted 328-0 to remove Yanokovych and arrange early elections.
No NATO or US financial aid was supplied up until that point. I challenge you to prove otherwise, and RT isn’t an accepted source.
No coup took place, the people revolted against a pro-Russian leader…that’s called a revolution.
Let's continue were i left off. I remember, your response was something "LALALA, i cant hear you, whatever!".
Anatomy of a Coup: How CIA front laid foundations for Ukraine war
https://mronline.org/2022/07/06/anatomy-of-a-coup/
Obvious examples of Central Intelligence Agency covert action abroad are difficult to identify today, save for occasional acknowledged calamities, such as the long-running $1 billion effort to overthrow the government of Syria, via funding, training and arming barbarous jihadist groups.
In part, this stems from many of the CIA’s traditional responsibilities and activities being farmed out to “overt” organizations, most significantly the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).
Founded in November 1983, then-CIA director William Casey was at the heart of NED’s creation. He sought to construct a public mechanism to support opposition groups, activist movements and media outlets overseas that would engage in propaganda and political activism to disrupt, destabilize, and ultimately displace ‘enemy’ regimes. Subterfuge with a human face, to coin a phrase.
Underlining the Endowment’s insidious true nature, in a 1991 Washington Post article boasting of its prowess in overthrowing Communism in Eastern Europe, senior NED official Allen Weinstein acknowledged, “a lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.”
Fast forward to September 2013, and Carl Gershman, NED chief from its launch until summer 2021, authored an op-ed for The Washington Post, outlining how his organization was hard at work wresting countries in Russia’s near abroad–the constellation of former Soviet republics and Warsaw Pact states–away from Moscow’s orbit.
Along the way, he described Ukraine as “the biggest prize” in the region,
suggesting Kiev joining Europe would “accelerate the demise” of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Six months later, Ukraine’s elected president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted in a violent coup.
Writing in Consortium News earlier that month, investigative legend Robert Parryrecorded how, over the previous year,
NED had funded 65 projects in Ukraine totaling over $20 million.
This amounted to what the late journalist dubbed “a shadow political structure of media and activist groups that could be deployed to stir up unrest when the Ukrainian government didn’t act as desired.”
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Chomsky: Six Months Into War, Diplomatic Settlement in Ukraine Is Still Possible
https://truthout.org/articles/chomsky-six-months-into-war-diplomatic-settlement-in-ukraine-is-still-possible/
That Russia felt threatened by NATO expansion to the East, in violation of firm and unambiguous promises to Gorbachev, has been stressed by virtually every high-level U.S. diplomat with any familiarity with Russia for 30 years, well before Putin. To take just one of a rich array of examples, in 2008 when he was ambassador to Russia and Bush II recklessly invited Ukraine to join NATO, current CIA director William Burns warned that “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin).” He added that
“I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.”
More generally, Burns called NATO expansion into Eastern Europe “premature at best, and needlessly provocative at worst.” And if the expansion reached Ukraine, Burns warned, “There could be no doubt that Putin would fight back hard.”
Burns was merely reiterating common understanding at the highest level of government, back to the early ‘90s. Bush II’s own Secretary of Defense Robert Gatesrecognizedthat “trying to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO was truly overreaching, … recklessly ignoring what the Russians considered their own vital national interests.”
The warnings from informed government sources were strong and explicit. They were rejected by Washington from Clinton on. In fact, on to the present moment. That conclusion is confirmed by the recent comprehensive Washington Post study of the background to the invasion.
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Road to war: U.S. struggled to convince allies, and Zelensky, of risk of invasion
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/interactive/2022/ukraine-road-to-war/?itid=co_russias-gamble_1&itid=mc_magnet-russias-gamble_inline_1
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In a later article where Noam Chomsky is interviewed:
https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-the-war-in-ukraine-has-entered-a-new-phase/
Seven months on, the war in Ukraine has entered a new phase. Ukrainian forces are running a counteroffensive in the east and south regions of the country while Russia is still bent on annexation plans. Meanwhile, the West, with the U.S. at the forefront, continues with itsexplicitly stated strategyof weakening Russia to the point of regime collapse, thereby leaving no room for negotiations. All these developments indicate that peace remains distant in Ukraine and that the war may in fact be poised to become even more violent.
Worse, argues Noam Chomsky below in an exclusive interview forTruthout, congressional hawks are increasing the risk of terminal war with the Taiwan Policy Act of 2022, which was just recently approved by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and appears to be modeled on programs from prior to the Russian attack that were turning Ukraine into a de facto NATO member.
The general picture is that Russia has suffered a devastating defeat, demonstrating the utter incompetence of the Russian military and the remarkable capacities of the Ukrainian army provided with advanced U.S. armaments and detailed intelligence information about the disposition of Russian forces, a tribute to the courage of the Ukrainian fighters and to the intensive U.S. training, organization and supply of the Ukrainian army for almost a decade.
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