OFFICIAL Sonic Generations Thread

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#151 white_kunoichi
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Oh Senoue, you and your guitar ways... Still, music'll probably be a pleasure to listen to no matter what. As long as the game consists of more than Green Hill (and City Escape). As for the 3D section gameplay, something tells me that it'll be worthwhile, whatever they do. A lot of thought needs to be put in to get useful ideas that can actually be truly brilliant.srbrans
Pleasure? lol Sorry not all of them. :P
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#152 mariostar0001
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Surprisingly enough kunoichi, not everyone hates Sonic's modern music. :P
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#153 sonictrainer
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C and M Sonic

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#154 Sonic2forever
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W-W-W-WII VERSION? :cry:
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#155 Sonic2forever
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W-W-W-WII VERSION? :cry:
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#156 kbaily
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Look there's NOT going to be a Wii version. Get over it already. Yes it's stupid Sega is ignoring where Sonic's primary audience exists just to make it all shiny and HD and probably to be able to nickel and dime for DLC, but we just had the Wii exclusive Sonic Colors which was great and Sega did spend a lot of money on that Hedgehog engine even if the 360/PS3 versions of Unleashed with all the shiny hedgehog engine things sold less than the non hedgehog engine versions.

Seriously what sort of hardcore gamers only own a Wii nowadays anyway? All I ever hear is whining about how the Wii has no games so they get a 360/PS3 to play all those other games.

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#157 sonichedgehog45
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Green Hill Zone (or whatever the first level is in Sonic games) is always the most tamed and more of an introductory level. So I can't wait to see Sonic tear it up on some epic levels. Not saying I was not impressed my the first level. I think it was just more to show "hey it's classic Sonic and modern Sonic TOGETHER" rather than the actual gameplay.
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#158 TAMKFan
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Maybe since Sonic Colors was on the Wii and DS, they decided to another Sonic game and only have it on PS3 and Xbox 360? That's the only reason I can think of them not doing a Wii version.
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#159 white_kunoichi
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Surprisingly enough kunoichi, not everyone hates Sonic's modern music. :Pmariostar0001
I'm not surprised people like Butt 40 or anyone other playboy bands Sega hires.
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#161 SuperfastSonic
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Well I'd like to point out that Wii owners got exclusives: Secret Rings, Black Knight, Colors, AND Sonic 4, and Unleashed, while Xbox360/PS3 owners got the terrible Riders Kinect and Sonic 06 including Unleashed and Sonic 4. The Wii got 3 extra games. SEGA is just trying to build up a larger audience..even though Wii owners object. 

 

Seriously what sort of hardcore gamers only own a Wii nowadays anyway? All I ever hear is whining about how the Wii has no games so they get a 360/PS3 to play all those other games.

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I do, becaus I'm broke. I got the Wii for Brawl and thought I'd get games for $20 when they get cheaper...that was 2 years ago, and Wii games are still $50 apiece while PS3/360 games are now $60 apiece... -_-
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#162 IslandBros15
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Well I'd like to point out that Wii owners got exclusives: Secret Rings, Black Knight, Colors, AND Sonic 4, and Unleashed, while Xbox360/PS3 owners got the terrible Riders Kinect and Sonic 06 including Unleashed and Sonic 4. The Wii got 3 extra games. SEGA is just trying to build up a larger audience..even though Wii owners object.

[QUOTE="kbaily"]

Seriously what sort of hardcore gamers only own a Wii nowadays anyway? All I ever hear is whining about how the Wii has no games so they get a 360/PS3 to play all those other games.

SuperfastSonic

I do, becaus I'm broke. I got the Wii for Brawl and thought I'd get games for $20 when they get cheaper...that was 2 years ago, and Wii games are still $50 apiece while PS3/360 games are now $60 apiece... -_-

PS3/360 games are more expensive to make so that's why they cost more. I buy everything using gift cards.

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#165 mariostar0001
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[QUOTE="SuperfastSonic"]

Well I'd like to point out that Wii owners got exclusives: Secret Rings, Black Knight, Colors, AND Sonic 4, and Unleashed, while Xbox360/PS3 owners got the terrible Riders Kinect and Sonic 06 including Unleashed and Sonic 4. The Wii got 3 extra games. SEGA is just trying to build up a larger audience..even though Wii owners object.

[QUOTE="kbaily"]

Seriously what sort of hardcore gamers only own a Wii nowadays anyway? All I ever hear is whining about how the Wii has no games so they get a 360/PS3 to play all those other games.

IslandBros15

I do, becaus I'm broke. I got the Wii for Brawl and thought I'd get games for $20 when they get cheaper...that was 2 years ago, and Wii games are still $50 apiece while PS3/360 games are now $60 apiece... -_-

PS3/360 games are more expensive to make so that's why they cost more. I buy everything using gift cards.

Which cost equal amounts of money (unless they're for XBOX Live). Gift cards are near worthless to me, they just mean I have money I can spend only one place. Cash means it can be spent anywhere.
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#166 megamario9
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weren't the stages in sonic 1 remade in sonic colors?

 

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#167 mariostar0001
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Last I checked, no.
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#168 MobilechicaneX
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Soooo (after seeing the COMBO X bit with the big fish), Sonic Generations is the 20th anniversary title because it took longer to write the Colors engine for the HD consoles than for the Wii. Well played, Sega.sonicphc

But it's not running on Colours' engine, silly. It's pretty obvious that it's running on the Hedgehog Engine used in Sonic Unleashed. Although it looks like it has been updated a bit since then.

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#169 srbrans
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weren't the stages in sonic 1 remade in sonic colors?

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Some of Colours' special stages had layout taken from levels in 1.
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#170 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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yeah. Certain parts of the levels show up in some form inside the Sonic simulator. Some of them are pretty obvious and others are less so. With me, I associate the actual level artwork with the layout so strongly that sometimes I don't even notice that I've gone through this path dozens of times only with different graphics on top of it.
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#171 Cloud_765
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Well I'd like to point out that Wii owners got exclusives: Secret Rings, Black Knight, Colors, AND Sonic 4, and Unleashed, while Xbox360/PS3 owners got the terrible Riders Kinect and Sonic 06 including Unleashed and Sonic 4. The Wii got 3 extra games. SEGA is just trying to build up a larger audience..even though Wii owners object. SuperfastSonic

It's simply because the sales of Sonic games are best with Nintendo systems, so if they wanted to really get things going they would want to at least release a Wii version to Generations. 

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#172 Cloud_765
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[QUOTE="sonicphc"]Soooo (after seeing the COMBO X bit with the big fish), Sonic Generations is the 20th anniversary title because it took longer to write the Colors engine for the HD consoles than for the Wii. Well played, Sega.MobilechicaneX

But it's not running on Colours' engine, silly. It's pretty obvious that it's running on the Hedgehog Engine used in Sonic Unleashed. Although it looks like it has been updated a bit since then.

Honestly I think you're right. Because I saw the gameplay video and it pretty much looks exactly like HD Unleashed... 

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#173 Sonic2forever
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Yeahsarcasm, I'dsarcasm muchsarcasm rathersarcasm havesarcasm Secret Ringssarcasm, Black Knightsarcasm andsarcasm sosarcasm onsarcasm insteadsarcasm of thissarcasm. D:

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASM!!!!

3DS Version?

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#174 Soniczero1993
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Yeah, I'd much rather have Secret Rings, Black Knight and so on instead of this. D:

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#175 Cloud_765
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Yeah s0's thoughts are mine to a tee right now. Who the hell in their right mind would prefer Secret Rings or Black Knight to something like this?
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#177 kbaily
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Yeah s0's thoughts are mine to a tee right now. Who the hell in their right mind would prefer Secret Rings or Black Knight to something like this?Cloud_765

Sonic2forever doesn't like anything. There are a lot of fans who only like crappy games or ones who refuse to play anything new even when it shows potential.

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#178 TheFallenDemon
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My friend, Alex, is a big Adventure fanboy who hated Colors (without playing it, of course) and I have a feeling he'll have another stupid reason for disliking Generations as well.
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#179 TheColbert
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My friend, Alex, is a big Adventure fanboy who hated Colors (without playing it, of course) and I have a feeling he'll have another stupid reason for disliking Generations as well.TheFallenDemon

I don't know how you could hate Generations looking at it now but I liked both the Adventure format and the way the series has taken hold now. This may sound like blasphemy but I wouldn't mind if they returned to the Adventure format sometime down the road for the 3D releases. It would need some work to make sure 06 doesn't happen again but they weren't all bad. 

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#180 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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Yeah, I'd much rather have Secret Rings, Black Knight and so on instead of this. D:

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my sarcasm sense is tingling!

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#181 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="Sonic2forever"]

Yeah, I'd much rather have Secret Rings, Black Knight and so on instead of this. D:

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whoozwah

my sarcasm sense is tingling!

If it is that was some well hidden sarcasm. Sonic fans are hard to tell considering how divided everyone is.

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#182 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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earlier in the thread he was crying about a Wii version. Then in that particular post he asked about a 3DS version. He obviously wants to play it which made me think sarcasm by saying he'd rather have the storybook games by comparison.
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#183 IslandBros15
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There is a Sonic game in the works for the 3DS. Not much is known about it though.
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#184 TheFallenDemon
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I'm guessing Sonic Storybook 3D: Prohibition Era Chicago.
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#185 TheColbert
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I'm guessing Sonic Storybook 3D: Prohibition Era Chicago.TheFallenDemon

Play as both Sonic and Shadow, each with a different story! As Sonic you stop the evil bootlegging gang run by Mob Boss Eggman. As Shadow your goal is to transfer as much alcohol to speakeasies across the city as possible!

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#186 mariostar0001
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[QUOTE="Sonic2forever"]

Yeah, I'd much rather have Secret Rings, Black Knight and so on instead of this. D:

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whoozwah

my sarcasm sense is tingling!

That's what I was thinking. :P
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#187 Sonic2forever
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[QUOTE="whoozwah"][QUOTE="Sonic2forever"]

Yeah, I'd much rather have Secret Rings, Black Knight and so on instead of this. D:

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Soniczero1993

my sarcasm sense is tingling!

If it is that was some well hidden sarcasm. Sonic fans are hard to tell considering how divided everyone is.

Ah, you have misinterpreted my sarcasm. I would have rathered this game over any of those exclusives, even Colors. But that does NOT mean that I hated Colors, Secret Rings, Black Knight and so on. It means this game looks better than those, which is my opinion. And Wii and Nintendo rule. I don't want to be 'hardcore', I want to play a good game.
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#188 sonictrainer
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There is a Sonic game in the works for the 3DS. Not much is known about it though. IslandBros15

The 3rd Mario/Sonic Olympics game?

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#189 white_kunoichi
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[QUOTE="IslandBros15"]There is a Sonic game in the works for the 3DS. Not much is known about it though. sonictrainer

The 3rd Mario/Sonic Olympics game?

No, it's something else not any mini-game. That I don't know of.
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#190 sonictrainer
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http://www.gameblog.fr/news_21961_sonic-generations-notre-interview-video

Sign posts for Retro Sonic and Goal Rings for Modern Sonic

Translation of the Interview:

Intro: I'm Takashi Iizuka, the producer for Sonic Generations

Q: What are the specifications for this Sonic Generations?

A:2011 mark the 20th anniversary of Sonic and this year, we have created a Sonic title only possible for this occasion. In this game, we will see the collaboration between Modern Sonic and Retro Sonic, each one playing in it's own game format. The gameplay is thus really different depending on which Sonic you're playing

Q: The past is thus mixed with the presents...

A:Like I've said before, Sonic Generations was created to celebrate the 20 years of Sonic. For this occasion, we went back as far as 1991 to include , some of the most iconic and well-known levels to the players, in this new title. Since it will be on X-Box 360 and PS3, everything will now be in 3D HD, the goal being to revitalize, to rediscover, to recreate levels that everyone know for a long time, with the help of today graphics

Q:Levels coming from the entire Sonic saga?

A:In Sonic Generations, you'll find level from the Megadrive era, Dreamcast period, those I remind you being recreated in 3D HD, but also more recents levels, that have appeared on HD consoles. For now, it's impossible for me to give details on the levels present in the game, but very soon, a series of news will surely satisfy your curiosity.

Q:What is the most difficult: create a stage in 2D or in 3D?

A:You already saw our reimagining of Green Hill Zone, originally a 2D stage, from the Megadrive. In Sonic Generations, you're going through this level with Modern Sonic, and as such, we needed to recreate it in Full 3D. And that's a lot of work. With Retro Sonic, everyone should feel some kind of nostalgia with the past sensations, while the game with Modern Sonic is a totally new experience of Green Hill Zone truly refreshing. But in Sonic Generations, you'll also see levels created originally in 3D this time put in 2D. As such, the roles are inversed between the two hedgehogs. It's playing with Modern Sonic that give the nostalgia feeling but discovering those stages with Retro Sonic is something new and unique. SO the title is really well-balanced between nostalgia and new things, no matter which Hedgehog we chose.

Q:Will we see Sonic's friends in Sonic Generations?

A:In Sonic Generations, the only playable characters are Mordern Sonic and Retro Sonic. But since our goal was to create a game celebrating the 20 years of Sonic history, the hedgehog's friends, which are an important part, will appear. We have taken every possible opportunities to use Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, etc...Thos friends will not be playable, but they will appear, one way or another, in the game.

Q:Which Period of Sonic do you like the most?

A: It's...hard to say...It's been a while since I'm involved in the creation of Sonic games, and as such, every games touch me in a different way, it's almost impossible for me to define which one is my favorite. But, I've been really happy of how Sonic Generations and Sonic Colours were developped. Sonic Generations will mark with flying colors the 20 years of Sonic, giving some kind of overview of everything that has been Sonic up until now. I want Sonic to continue to have succes for another 20 years, liked and played by everyone

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#191 Soniczero1993
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Since it will be on X-Box 360 and PS3, everything will now be in 3D HD, the goal being to revitalize, to rediscover, to recreate levels that everyone know for a long time, with the help of today graphics. sonictrainer

Don't expect a Wii version. Ever.


A:In Sonic Generations, the only playable characters are Mordern Sonic and Retro Sonic. But since our goal was to create a game celebrating the 20 years of Sonic history, the hedgehog's friends, which are an important part, will appear. We have taken every possible opportunities to use Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, etc...Thos friends will not be playable, but they will appear, one way or another, in the game.

sonictrainer

GOOD GOD THEY DO PAY ATTENTION!

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#192 SuperfastSonic
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SEGA is now the new Nintendo.

 http://www.nintendobuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Nintendo-DS-Money.jpg

I bet you anything they will make you PAY to play as Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, etc. DUUUUUURRRRRRRR 

 

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#193 srbrans
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...the only playable characters are Mordern Sonic...sonictrainer
One does not simply walk in a Mordern Sonic game. You hold X, and now that there are no more QTEs, they have to make sure you do SOMETHING ELSE. SOMETHING. Still waiting for proof of that, and although all that may be captivating, it's not gonna last long unless they show some imagination and intricate use of this style of Sonic 3D platforming. Also get to da giant chopper.
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#194 zmanrwks
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A:In Sonic Generations, you'll find level from the Megadrive era, Dreamcast period, those I remind you being recreated in 3D HD, but also more recents levels, that have appeared on HD consoles. For now, it's impossible for me to give details on the levels present in the game, but very soon, a series of news will surely satisfy your curiosity.

sonictrainer
This better mean Final Rush SEGA. Add this, I'll love you forever and ever.
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#195 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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I'd like to see how Dragon Road from the HD version of Unleashed would play out in 2D.
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#196 gamerguy456
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But in Sonic Generations, you'll also see levels created originally in 3D this time put in 2D. As such, the roles are inversed between the two hedgehogs. It's playing with Modern Sonic that give the nostalgia feeling but discovering those stages with Retro Sonic is something new and unique. SO the title is really well-balanced between nostalgia and new things, no matter which Hedgehog we chose.

Now this is gonna be very interesting

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#197 Soniczero1993
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I actually think this idea was a brilliant one. SEGA on a roll? What is this madness?
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#198 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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You really didn't think they would suck forever did you? Sonic and Mortal Kombat are pretty similar in that respect. It took them both a while (2 generations) to find their footing but it looks like they're both back and with solid entries.
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#199 Soniczero1993
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With that said, I think I'm looking forward to Sonic.

Shao Kahn is still a cheap bastard though.

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#200 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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no doubt.

Back on topic, I don't think we'll see Colors levels in this. I could be wrong but I imagine if we're going to see recent levels, they're going to be from Unleashed.