SF Giants wins 2nd World Series in 3 years, sweeps Detroit Tigers. Sandoval MVP.

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#1101 JohnBean42
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^The rookie Simmons probably made the poor decision on his own, though it wouldn't surprise me if Fredi told him to do it. GamerForca
According to TBS, Fredi told him to. Might just be taking the heat off of a young player who made a bad choice.
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That's what I would think, but Fredi has made so many decisions like that in the past that I can't be completely sure.

4-2 Cards now, looking like another playoff choke for the Braves.

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#1103 -Halftime-
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Why are the Braves such horrid playoff chokers, seriously? I'm not even meaning this as an insult. Going back like to 2001 they choke every year in the playoffs
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#1104 Master_Live
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And now it is just unraveling.
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#1105 GamerForca
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5-2, the Cardinals add on a run off a player who should've been struck out (so I don't feel as bad about the Braves 2 runs). But this game's almost definitely over. Doesn't even bother me, this is about what I expected.
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#1106 JohnBean42
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See, this is why best of 3 would be better. The better team over 162 games in a better division has a bad game against a team 6 games worse in a weaker division, and they'll be out.

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See, this is why best of 3 would be better. The better team over 162 games in a better division has a bad game against a team 6 games worse in a weaker division, and they'll be out.

JohnBean42

I don't like it either.

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See, this is why best of 3 would be better. The better team over 162 games in a better division has a bad game against a team 6 games worse in a weaker division, and they'll be out.

JohnBean42
The Division winners would be waiting to long and that would negate greatly any advantage gain by pitching their best pitcher on game 1. This WC game is simply a joke.
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#1109 GamerForca
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

See, this is why best of 3 would be better. The better team over 162 games in a better division has a bad game against a team 6 games worse in a weaker division, and they'll be out.

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The Division winners would be waiting to long and that would negate greatly any advantage gain by pitching their best pitcher on game 1. This WC game is simply a joke.

I agree completely (and yes, I agreed before the Braves started losing lol). Btw, this game is on Chipper. Huge error plus ground out on the first pitch with two RISP. Kinda fitting, actually.
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

See, this is why best of 3 would be better. The better team over 162 games in a better division has a bad game against a team 6 games worse in a weaker division, and they'll be out.

Master_Live
The Division winners would be waiting to long and that would negate greatly any advantage gain by pitching their best pitcher on game 1. This WC game is simply a joke.

That's true. 3 or 4 days off would be pretty bad for the other 3 teams in that league. It does put more emphasis on winning your division, so that part I like. Gotta be a better way than a 1 game playoff
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#1111 Master_Live
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Lets go to two divisions per league, top two teams per division get in. Division winners get a banner, home field advantage and lets other kill themselves for that second spot. Also lets make the Division Series 7 game, no interleague play and team with best record overall gets home field in the WS.
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#1112 Master_Live
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I knew it, I KNEW IT, I knew Matt Holliday would screw up in the outfield.
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#1113 Master_Live
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Bring replacement umpires.
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#1114 Master_Live
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This is an embarrassment for MLB.
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That call will cost the Braves this game, a lot worse than the call that gave the Braves 2 runs. Unbelievable. Braves fans throwing stuff onto the field, not good, but I'd probably do it to honestly. Absolutely unbelievable.
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I don't know about costing the game, but Braves should have the bases loaded.
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#1117 JohnBean42
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That call will cost the Braves this game, a lot worse than the call that gave the Braves 2 runs. Unbelievable. Braves fans throwing stuff onto the field, not good, but I'd probably do it to honestly. Absolutely unbelievable.GamerForca
It's a terrible call, but the fans are embarrassing themselves.
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That is absoultely awful. One of the worst calls Ive ever seen. I don't blame the fans. If I was Fredi I would've decked that umpire, they didn't even discuss the call. He chased the ball, backpedaling into left field. How the HELL is that an infield fly rule? MLB better say that this idiot made the wrong call or I'm gonna have a hard time taking them seriously. Awful.
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Right, but the chances of a comeback have been drastically cut down. With Simmons at first, a hit into the gaps or down the lines would've tied it.

Oh, and fwiw, I've never seen the infield fly rule called anywhere near that deep before, at any level of the game. Ever. ^I'm glad you brought up Fredi, because he should've got himself thrown out. I would NOT have left that field without being ejected in that situation. Bobby Cox would've been tossed within seconds.

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#1120 Master_Live
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Selig better be writing a statement like 10 minutes ago.
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#1121 Ngamer05
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Not looking good for the Braves. Looks like it will be the Cards advancing.

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#1122 JohnBean42
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Braves playing the game under protest. Don't know what that changes..probably nothing.

You can usually only do it on rule misinterpretations. This was a judgement call.

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The Braves and the umpires are GIVING this game to the Cards. Pathetic.

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I've never seen an infield fly rule called that late or that deep in a part of the field ever. Awful.
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#1125 JML897
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So how about that one-game wildcard?!
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#1126 JohnBean42
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The Braves and the umpires are GIVING this game to the Cards. Pathetic.

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Well, to be fair, the Ross HR never should have happened...can't call time that late in a wind-up.
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I've never seen an infield fly rule called that late or that deep in a part of the field ever. Awful.-Halftime-

I just don't understand WHY the umpire called that to begin with. Usually those called near the base paths or closer, not in SHALLOW left field.

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#1128 Ngamer05
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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

The Braves and the umpires are GIVING this game to the Cards. Pathetic.

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Well, to be fair, the Ross HR never should have happened...can't call time that late in a wind-up.

That happens a lot during games, atleast ones I've seen. As for that crap they called in the bottom of the 8th, I have never seen.

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http://www.sbnation.com/2012/10/5/3462610/mlb-suddenly-understands-the-infield-fly-rule

:lol:

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http://www.sbnation.com/2012/10/5/3462610/mlb-suddenly-understands-the-infield-fly-rule

:lol:

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:lol: Saw that on Twitter.

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Time for Uggla to makeup for that error earlier in the game.

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#1132 JML897
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Kinda sucks for Chipper to go out that way
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Kinda sucks for Chipper to go out that wayJML897

I agree.

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I feel bad for the Braves because they did get hosed by that call, but they did make 3 errors.

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#1135 JohnBean42
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Tough way to lose. Brutal call. But other than that, Braves have no one to blame but themselves. Left 12 men on I think, 12 hits, 3 errors, and lost by 3 while allowing 4 unearned runs. Chipper's error was the worst.

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#1136 JML897
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lmao the Cardinals are popping champagne? What's next, the Heat popping champagne because they beat the Knicks?
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Replacement refs > MLB umpires
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lmao the Cardinals are popping champagne? What's next, the Heat popping champagne because they beat the Knicks? JML897
Game isn't even official yet lol.

But they didn't celebrate clinching the 5th seed cause they hadn't made the playoffs to that point. So this is their form of it.

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Replacement refs > MLB umpires TonyDanzaFan

2011 playoff format > 2012 playoff format

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Tough way to lose. Brutal call. But other than that, Braves have no one to blame but themselves. Left 12 men on I think, 12 hits, 3 errors, and lost by 3 while allowing 4 unearned runs. Chipper's error was the worst.

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The call aside, that's the reason a 1 game playoff is completely ridiculous in baseball. A few mistakes by the Braves was all it took for them to get knocked out despite outhitting the Cards by double. The more deserving team (again, despite the call) moved on, but the better team didn't because of ONE game. Oh, and one last thing about the fans. Embarrassing, perhaps, but it's a "good" thing this happened in Atlanta because the fans are typically so mild. Imagine this situation in Philly or New York.
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Protest already denied by MLB.

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Reminded me of WCW lol.

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#1143 CJL13
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Maybe Chipper will come back for another year like Rivera did after his career ended so wrong?

Also can you imagine what would happen in Wisconsin if this happened to the Brewers?! All of a sudden missing out on a wild-card isn't so bad anymore!

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So, what happened in the braves game.

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LOL @ Sam Holbrook saying that he "absolutely" made the right call. What an arrogant fat faced idiot. I stand by the opinion that he should have been hit with a haymaker.
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MLB says he had his shoulders squared and was in position to make a "routine catch." Ridiculous.
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MLB says he had his shoulders squared and was in position to make a "routine catch." Ridiculous.GamerForca

If that's the case then why not just call it right away like you're supposed to?!

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This Goodell all over again.
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[QUOTE="GamerForca"]MLB says he had his shoulders squared and was in position to make a "routine catch." Ridiculous.CJL13

If that's the case then why not just call it right away like you're supposed to?!

Because we he was wrong. We know better.
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Just saw it and that is horrible. Hate when crap like this happens.