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#301 SquareEnix994
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I miss the old midgar....but heck they were too corrupted anyway
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#302 johngebreadman
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midgar is messed up so much, the licenses wouldnt help at all
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#303 SquareEnix994
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loll avalanche would revolutionize against the licenses
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#304 johngebreadman
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barret "what i need a license to use this gun? */*/..?* hell man! whats up with that!? */?'/ i aint gettin no licenses fool, i kill whoever wants me make a goddam license!"
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#305 latte428
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barret "what i need a license to use this gun? */*/..?* hell man! whats up with that!? */?'/ i aint gettin no licenses fool, i kill whoever wants me make a goddam license!"johngebreadman

:lol: :lol:

I could see that happening SO easily! :D

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#306 johngebreadman
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barret is the angriest guy in the world. i need a kicense to wear a gorram hat!!!! i aint doing nothing for no one, cpet marlene! **/*[/ you if im gonna go kill 10 wolves to be able to steal, gimme your gorram potions anyway!!!
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#307 latte428
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barret is the angriest guy in the world. i need a kicense to wear a gorram hat!!!! i aint doing nothing for no one, cpet marlene! **/*[/ you if im gonna go kill 10 wolves to be able to steal, gimme your gorram potions anyway!!!johngebreadman

Barret would be screaming and Cloud would be pouting... That would be an interesting picture...

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#308 SquareEnix994
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barret is scary:P
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#309 johngebreadman
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he is just like Mr. T, its hilarious, the A team always reminds me of FF7, bercause of him
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#310 latte428
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he is just like Mr. T, its hilarious, the A team always reminds me of FF7, bercause of himjohngebreadman

All Barret needs is the hair cut and a fear of flying! :)

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#312 johngebreadman
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i dunno how they got away with such a blatant rip off though. i suppose jaoan doesnt know about Mr. T
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#313 Wanderer5
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I like all the FF games I have(which I only have four), but I guess my least favorite is FFXII because the story wasn't great.

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#314 SquareEnix994
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Well actually FFXII i pretty much only played because of the story... :P
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#315 Lionheart08
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I always felt X-2 was weak sequel IMO.
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#316 fs_metal
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I loathe Final Fantasy VIII. It blows. Seriously. No redeeming qualities ever. Boring story. Boring characters. Nomuras generic art. God aweful gameplay
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#317 SquareEnix994
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Ithink ff8 isn't that bad and actually liked the story and caracter the only real downer i found was the draw system and the mixing item to make new weapons...
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#318 fs_metal
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DoC sucks hardcore as well. Ugh that game was aweful
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#319 johngebreadman
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I like all the FF games I have(which I only have four), but I guess my least favorite is FFXII because the story wasn't great.

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i think the story was great, it was just a bit more comp;ex than the others
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#320 darkcloud6
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hey fs_metal which do you hate more, DoC, FFX-2 or FFVIII :D
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#321 AlmightyMax
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2 and 3 were definitely the flat-out worst but 8 is my least favorite, because I liked it so much on the first few discs but by the time I got to mid-disc 2, with the repeating enemies, the realization Squall's character would pretty much never evolve, and the single LAMEST plot twist in history, I felt like I'd been robbed fifteen hours of my life.
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#322 Lisandro_v22
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FF X-2, though it's parcially a spin off, the rest of the spinoffs i don't like any, nor final fantasy tactics or chocobo wtf
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#323 fs_metal
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I hate FFVIII the most. It's long and crappy. FFVII DoC is short and crapy. X02 is very bleh as well but come on. IT has to be better than FFVII. I didn't hate it;s battle system. I just didn;t like anything else
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#324 Wanderer5
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Oh yeah forget FFXII as my least favorite FF game, I forgotten about FFVII: DoC. Was a little too linear, and it had way too many cutscenes, which drag down the pace.
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#325 fs_metal
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FFVII DoC was in love with it;s own story. It had pointless frickin cut scenes in the middle of boss fights. The graphics in game were sub par, especiually for a Square game. There were only 3 guns. The game was easy. CAlling the enemies dumb as rocks would be insulting the intelligence of rocks. There was no variety in enemies at all. The level design suffered copy and paste syndrom. DoC was justr a bad...bad...aweful...terrible game. IT'S A SHOOTER WITHOUT A SHOT GUN! WHAT THE HELL! HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE A SHOT GUN?

I don;t get why so many damn peole dog on FFXII. IT was brilliant. Great writing. Excellent directing. Fantastic dialog. Dark and complex storyline overflowing with plot twists. A series of excellent characters. Amazing graphics. A massive world that was alot of fun to explore. It didn';t feel linear like FFX did. It actually put some of the challenge back in the game. The gambit system was so flexible that you could have just as much or just as little control over hte action as you wanted.It didn';t firce you to use it. Brilliant musical score. No random battles. Seriously./ What's not to like about that game. It is hte first FF to ever do every siungle thing right

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#326 darkcloud6
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i could go on for ages right now, but i'll just say, i totally agree with everything you just said (especially about FFXII) :)
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#327 Wanderer5
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FFVII DoC was in love with it;s own story. It had pointless frickin cut scenes in the middle of boss fights.The graphics in game were sub par, especiually for a Square game. There were only 3 guns. The game was easy. CAlling the enemies dumb as rocks would be insulting the intelligence of rocks. There was no variety in enemies at all. The level design suffered copy and paste syndrom. DoC was justr a bad...bad...aweful...terrible game. IT'S A SHOOTER WITHOUT A SHOT GUN! WHAT THE HELL! HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE A SHOT GUN?

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Yeah that what I hate the most. It really slow the pace. And most enemies were pretty stupid. The story however was interesting and you get to play as Vincent.:P But it still wasn't that good. I thought the third gun you get was a Shotgun.

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#328 fs_metal
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The third gun was a rifle. It is a long range weapon. A shot gun is a short range spread shot weapon.
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#329 johngebreadman
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I hate FFVIII the most. It's long and crappy. FFVII DoC is short and crapy. X02 is very bleh as well but come on. IT has to be better than FFVII. I didn't hate it;s battle system. I just didn;t like anything elsefs_metal

FF8 was a great game, with great characters and a very unique bttle system. (i mean chracter development or whatever you wanna call it).

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#330 Lady_Bahamut
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I personally felt FFXII lacked story. It didn't interest me at all.

I think so far the first half of FFXII: RW has got more story and emotion than the whole of FFXII all together! XD

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#331 SquareEnix994
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Ithought the story in DoC was pretty good. it only was a cheap game for square....like only 3-4 cinematics and the in-game graphic was terrible for square standard i agree with the copy/paste of the decors and the lack of enemy's intelligence ...(imean you could take your time to reload 2times before the enemie actually hit you with a bullet on HARD MODE!!!)
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#332 johngebreadman
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I personally felt FFXII lacked story. It didn't interest me at all.

I think so far the first half of FFXII: RW has got more story and emotion than the whole of FFXII all together! XD

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the story is good i thought, did yu know it has twice the dialogue as ffx?

SPOILER i can understand why you think that about FFXII RW, im at the bit when balthier fights them and the story is really good

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#333 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I hate FFVIII the most. It's long and crappy. FFVII DoC is short and crapy. X02 is very bleh as well but come on. IT has to be better than FFVII. I didn't hate it;s battle system. I just didn;t like anything elsejohngebreadman

FF8 was a great game, with great characters and a very unique bttle system. (i mean chracter development or whatever you wanna call it).

It was terrible. IT wasn;t evenm frickin Final Fantasy
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#334 fs_metal
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I personally felt FFXII lacked story. It didn't interest me at all.

I think so far the first half of FFXII: RW has got more story and emotion than the whole of FFXII all together! XD

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To even suggest that FFXII lacks story is laughable. I mean did you even pay attention? It has the darkest and the second most complex story in FF history. It was filled with emotion too
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#335 crushgoil
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I personally felt FFXII lacked story. It didn't interest me at all.

I think so far the first half of FFXII: RW has got more story and emotion than the whole of FFXII all together! XD

Lady_Bahamut

I totally agree that RW has more story than the original XII.. kinda scary.

I really enjoyed RW though, good DS game :)

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#336 darkcloud6
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i think 12 had an alright story, it deffinetely wasn't as good as some other FF's but it was alright. as for RW haveing a better story then FFXII... maybe, i don't know about that.
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#337 Lady_Bahamut
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[QUOTE="Lady_Bahamut"]

I personally felt FFXII lacked story. It didn't interest me at all.

I think so far the first half of FFXII: RW has got more story and emotion than the whole of FFXII all together! XD

fs_metal

To even suggest that FFXII lacks story is laughable. I mean did you even pay attention? It has the darkest and the second most complex story in FF history. It was filled with emotion too

Oh, I payed attention alright. Perhaps there was story in there somewhere (I honestly didn't think there was), but if there was it must have been so dull that it didn't interest me at all.

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#338 fs_metal
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FFXII had a hell fo alot of story dude
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#339 Wanderer5
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Of course FFXII has a story, but it could have done better in some spots IMO.

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#340 Seripho_White
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Mystic Quest is by far the worst FF game I've played. It was painfully easy and its cast of characters had about as much depth as a piece of rice paper. Of the numbered titles, FFII takes my number one spot for worst game. It seemed as if the game wanted you to spend the vast majority of your time level grinding so your party wouldn't die at every encounter. Leveling magic became particularly annoying, especially spells like Flare and Ultima, which do about as much damage as any other spell unless for some unholy reason you actually decided to max them out to level 17. I will give FFII credit for giving me at least one good laugh. It's hard not to laugh at a line like:

"Guy speak Beaver!"

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#341 darkcloud6
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FFXII had a hell fo alot of story dudefs_metal

of course it had story, it just wasn't centered around the characters as much, which is why a lot of people didn't think it was as good.

i've heard a lot of bad things about mystic quest, by the sounds of it, i'm glad i've never payed it :?

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#342 fs_metal
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Eh. Mystic Quest ain't all that great. It';s very meh.

The characters in FFXII were still very well developed. FF fans are just used to having thingsh and fed to them. Bleh.

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#343 johngebreadman
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RW has a great story so far, im at chapter 8. FFXII should have been centred around ashe rather than vaan i thought. I think RW did good in developing penelo, because she was so undeveloped in FFXII
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#344 Lady_Bahamut
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I thought FFXII WAS centred around Ashe rather than Vaan.

I also agree with you on Penelo. She did next to nothing in FFXII.

fs_metal: You'll never convince me FFXII had a good story. But then I think we all look for different things in our RPG stories. For me, for what ever reason, FFXII didn't have it. But it did for you, which is great.

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#345 johngebreadman
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what i meant was you play as vaan and its mostly from his viewpoint, it should have been from ashe;s instead. although balthier is the best character, it wouldnt work from his perspective i think
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#346 langrisser2005
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I was also quite disappointed in FFXII's story. It didn't have the flair in had in previous titlles but they were glimpses on it throughout the game, I think it just wasn't consistent enough. Throughout the game there were times where it got really interesting, then just plain boring - I suppose we all did expect something big, but I think it was more of the game length that was big, and not the revolved story plot. The character development was there at parts, but seemed to only be there at small points and never shown again. Ashe, Baltheir, Fran and Basch all had moments but I think travelling about the place too much degraded the games story i think. Still! It was very fun with the new battle system and overall high quality :)

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#347 crushgoil
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I was also quite disappointed in FFXII's story. It didn't have the flair in had in previous titlles but they were glimpses on it throughout the game, I think it just wasn't consistent enough. Throughout the game there were times where it got really interesting, then just plain boring - I suppose we all did expect something big, but I think it was more of the game length that was big, and not the revolved story plot. The character development was there at parts, but seemed to only be there at small points and never shown again. Ashe, Baltheir, Fran and Basch all had moments but I think travelling about the place too much degraded the games story i think. Still! It was very fun with the new battle system and overall high quality :)

langrisser2005

I definitely agree with the portion of your analysis which I have placed in bold. The amount of story versus gameplay time seemed lacking. The biggest problem for me, however, wasn't so much the length, but the content. I found there to be almost no character development, although new things were happening and the characters were "learning" they didn't seem to develop new personality traits or open up to the audience. I found, as many others here have voiced, that it was almost impossible to become "attached" to these characters because they seemed so general and static.

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#348 fs_metal
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I thought FFXII WAS centred around Ashe rather than Vaan.

I also agree with you on Penelo. She did next to nothing in FFXII.

fs_metal: You'll never convince me FFXII had a good story. But then I think we all look for different things in our RPG stories. For me, for what ever reason, FFXII didn't have it. But it did for you, which is great.

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FFXII wasn't character centered at all. It had no main character. IT was event driven and fantastic
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#349 johngebreadman
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TECHNically a meain character in a game, is the one you play as outside of the battles.

My fave character in it was basch

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#350 darkcloud6
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i loved all the characters :D, but i'm sure you already know my fave's are balthier and fran :)