10 legit things that make Mac's better than PCs challenge.

Im not reading 20 pages worth of posts, but.... one thing i dont see anyone mentioning is the customer service. And I believe thats a big part of what you pay for. Instead of calling an 800 number and getting connected to some guy in India who is reading on screen prompts thyat I could do myself , and who eventually tells me it must be a virus on my pc which i know its not, and that I must reformat my harddrive.......

....with apple, you make an appointment at their genius bar, get your problem dealt with and get out of dodge in 20 minutes. That is worth it for me. And thgat is why I recently bought a macbook pro.

Gaming is becoming much more common on macs, and the only reeason they arent as gaming intensive as pc's is because of the market share. Its not profitable for companies to make their games compatible for less than 10 percent of the market.

the price argument is something else that pisses me off. You are not gonna get a pc that has the engineering and design of a mac. My mac book pro will run for 7-8 hours on its battery. The unibody design is extremely nice and sturdy. You get what you pay for. You want a chevy get a chevy, you want a bmw , you have to be willing to fork over the extra money for the extra quality. Besides, at this point thye price difference isnt all that different. You build a similar quality pc its not gonna be THAT much cheaper.

The macOS hands windows its own A$$.

Im not a mac fanboy. I have a pc for my desktop, and probably wouldnt have a mac for my home computer (though that could change). Microsoft and pc's have there place. Since this a gaming site most people here are gonna prefer a custom built pC cause it suits their needs. For the everyday user, i dont think it gets better tham a mac. That doesnt mean it's casual or not hardcore, it just depends on your needs and wants. I dont understand the rabid aggression pc fanboys have towards Mac. As I recall, Windows wouldnt be what is is today without Steve Jobs and the first Apple products....PC fanboys seem to forget that

I see reliability being a common reason for owning a Mac. Consumer Reports disagrees.

they look good. thats all

sikanderahmed

I work in the film industry. I work with Final Cut Pro. No producer would even consider hiring me if I didn't know my way around FCP, Motion, or Color. And I wouldn't even think about hiring an editor who doesn't know their way around those programs, either.

And I know you didn't read my other posts because I clearly said I was raised on Windows and the amount of Windows machines compared to Mac machines at my home is currently 5:2. I don't plan on switching that up any time soon. Please do yourself a favor and read.

DonPerian

1. The OS is a lot more stable then Windows offerings

Not true. They are about the same.

2. Bundled software (ilife) is awesome and just works like it should

Of course it works... it's made by Apple.

3. No hassles involved, with drivers, bugs etc.

Not true if you have the latest hardware. Windows 7 installed perfectly... I didn't need to install any drivers.

4. they can be kept longer than the windows running counterpart

Again, this isn't true... It's actually the other way around if you built the PC yourself.

5. They do look good

PCs can look just about any way you want them to. ;)

6. Makes certain tasks a lot easier (making dvd movies, recording your own soundtrack)

No, it'a about the same on both.

7.Integration between software

It's all made by apple... There are suites available for PC that can do the same.

8. Only OS my parents have been able to get on and learn how to use it well within a week as opposed to never learning Windows

Okay..

9. One Version of the OS

What?

10. Layout of the whole OS, (dock,folders,) and over all set up.

The Windows 7 taskbar is superior.

It just works. I dont have to worry about why this or that isnt working. USBs that take a few minutes to load the driver on Vista pop up instantly on OS X. I use to keep Windows Pc's for 2 years max, the Macs on the other hand for around 4 years.

I am a Systems admin in a Server 03 and Vista environment. I switched and would never buy another Windows machine again

smartcriminal

[QUOTE="DonPerian"] I work in the film industry. I work with Final Cut Pro. No producer would even consider hiring me if I didn't know my way around FCP, Motion, or Color. And I wouldn't even think about hiring an editor who doesn't know their way around those programs, either.

And I know you didn't read my other posts because I clearly said I was raised on Windows and the amount of Windows machines compared to Mac machines at my home is currently 5:2. I don't plan on switching that up any time soon. Please do yourself a favor and read.

Rikusaki

Do people not read around here?

I've seen people push out much more polished material out of Premiere or Vegas (though more the former than the latter) than Final Cut Pro. But then again, it is considered the film and tv's industry standard. I should know, I work in the industry. :)DonPerian

It being about an exact clone of FCP (which it isn't, not by a mile, but it's still an excellent piece of software) has nothing to do with the fact that FCS is a standard in the industry.

If a producer asks me for the dailies in Apple ProRes, how do you expect me to give them that using Premiere?

How is windows 7? I heard its pretty good. Is it better then XP, and pwn vista?x360owna

How is windows 7? I heard its pretty good. Is it better then XP, and pwn vista?x360owna

[QUOTE="x360owna"]How is windows 7? I heard its pretty good. Is it better then XP, and pwn vista?RichardStallman

[QUOTE="RichardStallman"][QUOTE="x360owna"]How is windows 7? I heard its pretty good. Is it better then XP, and pwn vista?x360owna

1. the computers are of a great quality, the hardware

2. the user interface is pure eye candy and looks fantastic

3. it's fashionable

4. the software bundled with it

5. less viruses are in existance for osx

6. k i give up

chopperdave447

I was about to disagree, but then I decided that I liked your signature and avatar so I'm just going to say "/thread."

People think they are easier to use I guess. And they look cool.

[QUOTE="x360owna"]How is windows 7? I heard its pretty good. Is it better then XP, and pwn vista?RichardStallman

I've been a Linux user for the last year and haven't had any reason to look back now that I've made the full plunge. Are there any features of Windows 7 that would warrant a switch from, say, Ubuntu or Mandriva back to the Windows camp?

Edit: After thinking it over, I've decided it doesn't matter to me. I've gotten used to free (both in terms of money and, more importantly, usage) software and I don't want to go back at this point.

they look good. thats all

sikanderahmed

That's all i can think of too.

[QUOTE="RichardStallman"][QUOTE="x360owna"]How is windows 7? I heard its pretty good. Is it better then XP, and pwn vista?mattbbpl

[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Don't think this is system wars worthy but I'll give it a shot. 1) Reliability - This is my top reason. I have had my computer on doing general office work, Virtualization, Basic Web browsing and programming for 3 months straight. Only have to reboot for a system update. 2) Compatibility - Works seamlessly with my iPhone, iPod, Windows Servers, Exchange Servers, Apple TV. 3) Hardware - I have a mac pro at work. It's has 2 quad core xeon cpu's with 12 GB of ram. It's hard to find something like this for pc unless you want to build it yourself. 4) Virtualization - Yes windows can do it too but it's more technical than that. Mac is built on unix which faster and more stable than windows. Therefore my virtualization projects run better on a mac. And it's not just windows, it's linux and os x server. 5) ilife - a free package of web designing, music creating and photo editing software that comes ready to go. 6) One version of the OS. No need to choose which features you want or not. It all comes standard. I can't think of any more at the moment. A lot is hard to describe. You have to use one to see. Once you do you'd be speechless like the rest of us.Zero_epyon

Most Virus target Windows as a whole. Which leaves other OS much safer.HarlockJC

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

The challenge is simple, 10 worthwhile things that make a MAC better than a PC, I'm curious because random friends of mine seem to be buying macs, whenever you ask "why" they have absolutely no come backs ever, its laughable.

System Wars valid right? I want 10 good reasons, and dont give us crap like "we can run windows" ... yea we can run OS X aswell, defeats the purpose of buying a more expensive machine right?

Zero_epyon

I own a Mac and I can say without a doubt that aside from gaming, OSX is the best Operating System on the planet. No ifs ands or buts about it. Sorry MS fanboys but Windows truly is garbage for the general consumer. Apple charges a premium for their computers because their the only ones that sell computers with OSX. Aside from OSX, their notebooks have a much better build quality and are far more aesthetically pleasing. Apple makes the best notebooks, period.

Uptown

Lets see.

-They look good

-Easy to install for the computer illiterate

-Virus free

-Easy OS

-Good for multimedia

-Power efficient

-Elegant interface

-Ummm

-Let's see

-You don't have to worry about having extra unspent money.

goblaa

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] WOW! I would have said MS. That's pretty twisted. Where has apple lied?Uptown

They never said PC's never work, they just said PC's never work...as good as a Mac.

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

I own a Mac and I can say without a doubt that aside from gaming, OSX is the best Operating System on the planet. No ifs ands or buts about it. Sorry MS fanboys but Windows truly is garbage for the general consumer. Apple charges a premium for their computers because their the only ones that sell computers with OSX. Aside from OSX, their notebooks have a much better build quality and are far more aesthetically pleasing. Apple makes the best notebooks, period.

imprezawrx500

There is thumbnail view, you can even play the video in the thumbnail itself

[QUOTE="smartcriminal"]

1. The OS is a lot more stable then Windows offerings

Not true. They are about the same.

Bullcrap, Vista is the most unstable POS i have ever used. Even after SP1 it was crap, finally after sp2 it has reached a manageable state

2. Bundled software (ilife) is awesome and just works like it should

Of course it works... it's made by Apple.

which ensures reliability

3. No hassles involved, with drivers, bugs etc.

Not true if you have the latest hardware. Windows 7 installed perfectly... I didn't need to install any drivers.

even with the latest hardware you still get problems with certain pieces

4. they can be kept longer than the windows running counterpart

Again, this isn't true... It's actually the other way around if you built the PC yourself.

Sorry requirements by applications developed by windows pcs sets them back alot as the years go by

5. They do look good

PCs can look just about any way you want them to. ;)

but they will never look as sleek as Apples products

6. Makes certain tasks a lot easier (making dvd movies, recording your own soundtrack)

No, it'a about the same on both.

Sorry, DVD maker or movie maker or whatever windows has is a pain in the butt and what freeware options does Windows come with to compensate for iMovie( one that is as good), iDvd, Garageband, iPhoto

7.Integration between software

It's all made by apple... There are suites available for PC that can do the same.

Yes you need to purchase that software

8. Only OS my parents have been able to get on and learn how to use it well within a week as opposed to never learning Windows

Okay..

9. One Version of the OS

What?

Ultimate,

Basic,

Business

Home etc etc

10. Layout of the whole OS, (dock,folders,) and over all set up.

The Windows 7 taskbar is superior.

i will take dock, expose, spaces, over it any day, and isnt it funny how the new aero and taskbar resemble the Os X dock??

It just works. I dont have to worry about why this or that isnt working. USBs that take a few minutes to load the driver on Vista pop up instantly on OS X. I use to keep Windows Pc's for 2 years max, the Macs on the other hand for around 4 years.

I am a Systems admin in a Server 03 and Vista environment. I switched and would never buy another Windows machine again

Rikusaki

For power you really can't go with Apple. Latest high end hardware is always available on PCs, not Macs. Industry standard software such as AutoCAD, 3ds Max is windows only. Photoshop has a 64bit version for windows and not macs making windows the better platform for working with huge files (such as raw format for professional printing). To whomever said exchange server as a plus for macs, you must be joking. You do know that Exchange is a Microsoft product, hence why it is called Microsoft Exchange server? You don't really think a microsoft product works better on macs than PCs do you? Hell exchange is one of the main reasons why so many big businesses run Windows (outlook plus exchange is unrivaled in a corporate environment). Also for everyone claiming that Macs are more secure, the Mac has been the first platform hacked in the Pwn2Own contest for the last 2 years running.

Weird, I did not know Macs weren't personal computers.

They're made of sturdy materials. That's about the only good thing I can think of after owning an iBook for about 5 years. The case felt sturdy and really hard like it could withstand a good hit. Of course, there's no stopping you from buying the equivalent-strength materials for a PC, but it seems forced on you with a Mac.

appletsauce

For power you really can't go with Apple. Latest high end hardware is always available on PCs, not Macs. Industry standard software such as AutoCAD, 3ds Max is windows only. Photoshop has a 64bit version for windows and not macs making windows the better platform for working with huge files (such as raw format for professional printing). To whomever said exchange server as a plus for macs, you must be joking. You do know that Exchange is a Microsoft product, hence why it is called Microsoft Exchange server? You don't really think a microsoft product works better on macs than PCs do you? Hell exchange is one of the main reasons why so many big businesses run Windows (outlook plus exchange is unrivaled in a corporate environment). Also for everyone claiming that Macs are more secure, the Mac has been the first platform hacked in the Pwn2Own contest for the last 2 years running.

Materia_Ashes

The only difference between a Mac and a PC is the OS.

Just found this on Tomshardware. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hack-windows-security-snow-leopard,8704.html

they meant Macs come with built in support for Exchange emails. To get it on Windows you need to buy officesmartcriminal

I don't think you realize what an exchange server is. It is a separate software that is run on a server to facilitate communication between PCs on a network. Windows come with exchange support by default and so do Macs. The only difference is that Outlook integrates and works with exchange much more smoothly than Apple's Mail or Entourage. Also outlook express (or Windows Mail) comes for free with Windows and supports exchange as well (and better than Mac Mail).

The only difference between a Mac and a PC is the OS.

xionvalkyrie

[QUOTE="xionvalkyrie"]

The only difference between a Mac and a PC is the OS.

walkingdream

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Macs have a motherboard, processor, ram, graphics card, dics drive, power supply, etc.

Yea I agree Mac owns PC, PC=Virus HeavenSergeAndKid

Are you talking about the OS or the computer?

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Most Virus target Windows as a whole. Which leaves other OS much safer.xscrapzx

A lot of people here are posting without ever owning a Mac and/or understanding the structure of the OS. By design, the Mac OS is more secure than Windows. The Max OS uses Unix as its foundation. Unix was designed to be a multi-user, networked operating system. Windows was designed as a stand-alone single PC OS. Unix has been around forever and just about everything has been done with it. Unix is bullet proof. Windows has been trying to be more secure with making the Admin account more like root. The Tree directory structure is also superior to Windows Directory which tends to be messy. I'm not saying Mac OS can't get a virus but it's a lot harder than Windows.

Hell, Windows security is a joke. I can break into any physical XP\Vista machine put in front of me in less than 10 minutes and grab every file off of it. All I need is my CD. This is of course if no encryption software was used to secure the files. There is a reason why these encryption software companies make millions of dollars securing window files.

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="xionvalkyrie"]

The only difference between a Mac and a PC is the OS.

organic_machine

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Macs have a motherboard, processor, ram, graphics card, dics drive, power supply, etc.

I really can't believe Macs are only like 9%-12% of the market share. I'm in my third year of college and I've met more people with Macs than with PC's. Out of the 6 roommates I've had 4 have had Macs. I guess it's just that college students are the ones who buy Macs the most.Zero5000X

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="walkingdream"] Hardware?walkingdream

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Macs have a motherboard, processor, ram, graphics card, dics drive, power supply, etc.

They did, but then they went with Intel so now the insides are virtually identical.

Yes but Don't Macs Generally use different types of Hardware that is exclusive to their brand? Sorry if i am Mistakenwalkingdream

Nope. Ever since the switch to Intel, Macs use the same exact off the shelf parts that you can find in Windows PCs. The only thing that separates Macs from other PCs is the case and the Operating System.

A lot of people here are posting without ever owning a Mac and/or understanding the structure of the OS. By design, the Mac OS is more secure than Windows. The Max OS uses Unix as its foundation. Unix was designed to be a multi-user, networked operating system. Windows was designed as a stand-alone single PC OS. Unix has been around forever and just about everything has been done with it. Unix is bullet proof. Windows has been trying to be more secure with making the Admin account more like root. The Tree directory structure is also superior to Windows Directory which tends to be messy. I'm not saying Mac OS can't get a virus but it's a lot harder than Windows.

Hell, Windows security is a joke. I can break into any physical XPVista machine put in front of me in less than 10 minutes and grab every file off of it. All I need is my CD. This is of course if no encryption software was used to secure the files. There is a reason why these encryption software companies make millions of dollars securing window files.

sleepingzzz

Did you happen to skip my post above: Macs hacked in seconds for the second straight year in Pwn2Own. So no they are not more secure than Windows. They are safer perhaps because most malware targets windows but it is flawed to call them more secure.